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Beatty, Beattie, Beaty, Beatie Batey Baety, Batty, Baty, Baity, Batte, Betty, Bate, Betti, Batie, Baley, Battie, Battey, and all other spellings
One of the many different Coats of Arms
used by the male heir descendants of Beatty surname.
I am a member of the Beatty Project 2000, but my site is not affiliated with that project/site, nor approved by it.
Beatty all spellings have been documented in the UK and Ireland, India, Japan, Europe, North America, Mexico, South America, Australia and New Zealand.
My Beattys are documented to 1621 in Scotland, and are listed in the
Historical facts put our name definitely in Scotland before 1600s as the Beattie's had their brocks in Eskdale certainly from the 1400 to the 1600s. At that time King James had his purge and we were spread around to places such as Ireland and England!
Peter who wrote this was asked where Eskdale was...
Eskdale is in the heart of the Debateable Land North of the Scottish Border in the Riever territory before 1600 and King James. It is the valley of the river Esk and rises north of Eskdalemuir in the high ground and forests between Moffat and Hawick. This river joins others and flows down past Lanholm (of Baldy Beattie fame) and Cannobie then over the border and empties into the Solway Firth. Just to the south of Eskdalemuir on a tributory (Ribble Burn) once stood the Brock called Score that housed one of the Beattie Headmen. All the way down to Langholm once stood a series of brocks which were the strongholds of several Beattie families. The connection between them is unknown but could be connected to the Beattie grant of land by the Scottish King in the 1400s at Langholm. This land was aquired by the Scotts around 1600 by devious means! Hope this helps
Peter L-286 of the Beatty Project 2000
Scottish Border Reivers
Whilst the border
wars raged between England and Scotland through the 14th to the 16th centuries,
the family clans of the border hills lived in their own state of
semi-lawlessness. Sheep stealing and burning each others homes became part of
their everyday life.
The Beatties were part of the Boarder Reivers cursed by the Catholic Church. This group of people were land owners, but chose to plunder the English and the Scots. They crossed the border to the north or the south as they saw fit. The cursing they received was considered one of the most complete cursings ever given anyone or any groups of people.
It is hard to understand if the "Families" were Lowland Scots or Northern English. Ray in an email to me states "My reading of the history tells me the Reivers probably didn't refer to themselves as Scots."
He points out
"1. They lived on both sides of the border. (One of our Beatty groups were north of the boarder in the Esk river valley.)
2.They were invaded for 500 years by the Scots from the north and the English from the south... No love lost for either the Scots or the English...
In fact, early on ...I think 1500s... our Beattys were defeated by the "Scot" family..
3. They spoke a dialect of English most similar to that spoken in Northumberland, England today...."
We do not know exactly where each Beatty lineage originated, as each line is researched each family will deterime for themselves...
The Beatty surname all spellings are Scots, Some are a sept of the MacBeth Clan. Information on the McBeth Clan can be found at: http://www.sayitontheweb.com/macbeth/variants.html It shows the Tartan, Arms, Badges go take a look.
Why do some of us spell the name Beatty (or Beattie) while others spell it Beaty?
Reprinted with Sheila Hale's permission... nlp
From: Chris Sheila Hale
The name was not
always spelled Beattie in Scotland. I have extracted large quantities of
Beattie et el data for the Borders area of Scotland and have complied it into a
large database. From this I have been able to conclude some interesting things
about the way the name evolved.
I feel certain there never was an organized effort for spelling the Beatty/Beaty name one way or another. Using Crossle's notes, I have seen the same individuals spelled both ways in various documents, and occasionally in the same document. The seventeenth and eighteenth centuries were a time before spellings were standardized. There was no dictionary in general use, so people spelled words the way they felt like it. The spelling was more often dictated by the whim of a particular clerk than it was on the part of the person involved. In my own lineage 24, my 4th great grandfather James Beaty of Ballycanew, County Wexford (1745-1805), signed his name with one t, though his name appears sometimes with two ts. All of his sons preferred the two t spelling and made the modification during their father's lifetime. I don't know why they did it; perhaps they liked the way it looked. I've become accustomed to looking for the name under many different variations. The long "a" pronunciation has tended to confuse many clerks over the years (as it still does today). They want to write Batey for Beatty, and they just don't get the "ea" thing. Ronald Reagan's presidency did much to educate people that "ea" can sometimes be pronounced with a long a, but it still confuses some.
John Beatty Lineage 24
Reprinted with permission... nlp
As usual, some very interesting preceding messages on the spelling of our family name.
It all is worth repeating occasionally to help new members in their research. I hope the lesson learned from the evidence of the many spelling variations is that researchers should check the many variations when they are searching a given source.
We have very few lineages that don't have some variations noted over the generations.
Back in the early days of BP2000 one of our researchers became irate when I suggested that she check variations. She told me in very direct words that her lineage was BEATTY and only BEATTY and that she wasn't going to waste her time on those others.
I hope that our typical researcher today is a bit wiser. With many of our American colonial families who continually moved to the frontier of their day we occasionally have evidence of a generation or so of illiteracy. That combined with the tendency until the mid 1800s to spell things as they "were heard" resulted in many of the variations we have on record.
A related research problem has emerged in the last few years. As we now have indexes for just about every available U.S. Census year we are running into the problem created by indexing errors.
Many of the original census data pages are difficult to read because of the census recorder's difficult handwriting or the quality of the microfilm. I have been working with the Ancestry.com and the Genealogy.com indexes and have found several errors in the past couple of weeks. For example, Donna Van Zandt and I were looking for the 1870 data on a Lewis Beatty (Lineage 1), having the data for all the other census years on him. He is not listed in the Genealogy.com 1870 index under the normal variations (Baty, Baity, Batey, Beatie, Beattie, Beatty, Beaty, Beattey, Betty etc.). Donna found him the hard way by going to the county and township he lived in 1860 and searched the 1870 residents until she found him. When she sent me the data I wondered how Genealogy.com had missed him, so I pulled up the 1870 image which looked like it could have been interpreted as BENTLY. When I went back to the Genealogy.com index I then found him....listed as LEWIS BENTTZ.! A spelling variation I would never have thought to check!
So....Researchers beware....like DAR records, family bibles, county (vanity) histories, etc., these new indexes are not without errors!
Raymond C. Beaty, Ph.D.
Founder, The Beatty Project 2000
NYC Lineage 1/3 and 34
If you are researching a Beatty surname then you really should join
The Beatty 2000 Project
The Beatty Project 2000 (BP-2000) was started in 1996 to gather information about the various Beatty families. A lot of work has already been done to document Beatty lineages.
Each of the over 400 Beatty lineages that we have in our master database have a number assigned. There are so many Beatty's with the same first names and with the vartions of spellings of the surname, it helps keep those of us using the information from getting them mixed up. You can go to the website http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/ and look at the lineage summaries (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bp2000/lineages.htm).
The Beatty DNA Project
If you have spent any time researching your Beatty family history, you have probably reached a point where you cannot identify earlier ancestors. Perhaps you have documented 3 generations, or 6, or 8. But, at some point the Beatty trail grows cold. You are not alone! Every Beatty researcher (actually, every researcher of any family) has reached the same point at one time or another (called a 'brick wall'). And, even though there are relatively few Beattys in the population, there doesn't seem to be many connections among them or widespread documentation of their origins. DNA Can Help...
I have Beatty on my Mother's side and Beattie in my Father's collateral lines to his Cupps. They are proving to be of the same Scotish/English border heritage.
Forward we walk, back into time, to play in the castles of our mind.
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