SANDES, William, Esq., of Sallow Glen, co. Kerry.
Eldest son of the late Thomas William Sandes, Esq., of Sallow Glen, by Margaret, dau. of
Francis Chute, Esq, of Chute Hall, co. Kerry; b.1799; s. 1835; m. 1836, Rupertia, only dau. of
the late Charles Higgs, Esq. of Charlton Kings, co. Gloucestershire. Educated at Trinity
Coll., Dublin (B.A. 1822); was High Sheriff of co. Kerry 1828 - Charlton Kings, near
Cheltenham, co Gloucestershire; Sallow Glen, near Tarbert, co. Kerry.
Heir Pres., his brother Thomas, a J.P. and D.L. for co. Kerry, b. 1801; m. 1839 Elizabeth, dau. of Francis Bernard Chute, Esq., of Bahttany, co. Kerry.
Source: The County Families of the United Kingdom or Royal Manual of the Titled and Untitled Aristocracy of Great Britain and Ireland. Edward Walford, M.A. 1864, Robert Hardwicke, 192, Piccadilly, Second Edition. Page 881.
"Recorded document date: 1565. Made his will, July 24, 1592, to which Arthur Chute, gentleman, was a witness and it was proved August 1, 1592." William Edward Chute, Chute Genealogies: A Genealogy and History of the Chute Family in America, 1894
According to William Edward Chute, there is a recorded document date of 1552 for Susan Greene, but the document itself has not yet been identified.
Register, 50: 114: [Will of] LIONELL CHEWTE of Brampton [Suffolk] clerk 24 July 1592, proved 1 August 1592. To be buried in the chancel there. He did gyve to Lionell Chewte his son his graye nagge wch he did ride on to Ippiswch. Item he did gyve to Grace, Sara and Judith Chewte his dawters to everye of them a cowe. Item he did gyve and bequethe to Susan his wief all the residue of his goodes and cattalls whatsoever desiringe her to have care of the bringinge upp of his children and willed that she shoulde have the execucon of his goodes and named her his executrix. Theise beinge witnesses Arthure Chewte gent. Thomas Jolly and others. Cons. Court Norwich, Apleyard, 128.
"Married in All Saints Church, Frostenden. "Philip Chute, Lyonell's uncle, had been appointed by Henry VIII in 1540 as Bailiff of Frostenden Manor for Queen Anne of Cleves, and held the post for life. He had weightier responsibilities in Kent, so did not normally remain in Suffolk himself; one deduces that his brother moved to this country as Philip's deputy, since Chutes are recorded up to about 1630 here and at nearby villages: Wrentham (home of Philip's third wife) where Lyonell's cousin Arthur owned land; at Sotterly and at Ellough, home of "Arthare" and Margaret." Francis Chute, Chutes of the Vyne
William Edward Chute (p, 13) quotes Wm. Barry's Hampshire Pedigrees for the following entry:
"Sir Wm. Hicks8, 7th Bart., b. 1754, (Sir Howe7, Howe6, Sir Michael5, Sir William4, Sir Michael3, Robert2, John1 of 1557), m. Ann Rachel, da. of Thomas L. Chute, 1793, and had Ann Rachel, m. Sir Lambert Cromie, Bart., living in 1831.
The difficulty with Sir George Chute - in addition to the fact that every Bethersden generation of Chutes named their sons either George or Edward, making them all very difficult to separate one from the next - is that his founding of the Irish branch of the family has appeared primarily in one source - Bernard Burke - who doesn't particularly specify which George Chute he's referencing either, beyond the identifying comments, "a military officer", and that he was "Kentish". The only comfortable sense of connection between the Bethersden Chutes and the Chute Hall Chutes comes from the fact that they obviously knew - and kept track of - each other, even through the Vyne years. But the true identity of "Irish George" Chute is difficult to reconcile with independent sources. The difficulties are summarized by Pearman:
"Burke in his Landed Gentry, represents him as the founder of the Irish branch of the family, but I know not upon what authority he does so. Burke says, "George Chute, a military officer, went into Ireland during the rebellion of Desmond, and obtained grants of land near Dingle and in the county of Limerick, which were soon however alienated. He married an Evans of the county of Cork, and had a son Daniel, who acquired in marriage with a daughter of McElligott the lands of Tulligaron, subsequently called Chute Hall, which was confirmed by patent in 1630."
If this was the case, which I doubt, Margaret Welford must have been his second wife, and Anne, daughter of Sir Martin Barnham of Hollingbourne, his third wife. On referring to his will, I find that he mentions his children by his surviving wife, and Anne Price[/Prise], his daughter by Margaret Welford, "to whom a fayre inheritance is descended from her mother, my former wife, which upon my marriage and upon payment of a great sum of money by George Chute, Esq., my father, was soe settled," but he makes no allusion to any family in Ireland; yet this does not fully decide the point at issue.
In 1627 he seems to have been living at Sonning, in Berks, where he buried his infant daughter Elizabeth. In 1638 he is described as "of Stockwell", and in 1640 he acted as a magistrate for Surrey, at Southwark. In his will, which was proved in 1649, he desires to be "decently and without ostentation buried in the Parish Church of Lambeth, in that isle where my predecessors, the owners of the Manor of Stockwell, which through God's goodness I enjoy, have a right of burial."
"The Chutes of Bethersden, Appledore and Hinxhill", the Reverend A.J. Pearman, M.A., Archaeologia Cantiana, Kent Archaeological Society. Printed for the Society by Mitchell & Hughes, Oxford Street, London. Volume XVIII, 1889
On the other hand, in a letter dated 6 JUN 1600, E. Whyte writes from Penshurst to Sir Robert Sydney, then Governor of Flushing. The "Mr. Chute" being discussed is George, the son of Philip Chute of Appledore:
"Mr. Chute hath lost his eldest sonne in Ireland, his second is with you and his third. He understanding by them the desire you had of a good Nagge told me he had the finest in England, which he refused �20 for, and that he would bestow upon you if he could tell how to send it. I desired him to send it to Penshurst and I would take care to ship him over to you. The Nagge runs at grass at his own howse 20 miles hence: he gave me a letter to the Bailiff of his land to deliver him when I should send for him, and upon Monday he is to be sent for."
The use of the word "lost" in this letter is odd. Most would assume this meant that George had died in Ireland, but it may have meant that George was "lost to him" temporarily, in the sense of being "out of reach". If it did mean "lost" in the permanent sense of the word, Chute genealogists have a lot more work to do on the Irish Chutes!
On the still third hand, how is it that George son of Philip had two "eldest sons"? Here we have a reference to his losing his eldest son in Ireland; later we have Walter being identified as the "eldest son" when he disgraced himself in Parliament - the obvious inference being that he moved up in the chain of inheritance when the eldest son died in Ireland, and now WAS the eldest son.
On the fourth hand, Walter is being called the first born, not the eldest, which is not necessarily the same thing. That a son may be the eldest can change, depending upon the fates of his siblings; that he is the first-born - usually doesn't change.
And Pearman is correct in that it is odd that our "Irish George" Chute never mentioned any Irish descendants in his will, and neither do his sons. If George the elder brother of Walter had traveled north with Walter Raleigh (as was supposed) to fight for the King, wouldn't Walter - who also went to war with Raleigh - have heard something of his Irish nephews (Daniel had a brother: Reverend Thomas Chute, the Chancellor of Artferd.) And yet in his own will, he makes mention only of his cousin "Waller"."Could I ever believe that a father would disinherit his sunn, his first born, whom only the law of God terms the Lords, nay allmostt uppon any demeritt, yet what hath Watt (Walt) Chute done ... why should you throw him oute as a bastard from your nest, spoile him of his birthright, nay of his honor, and reputation in the world ... no cause ... can be so operative to make nature forgett nature, without a great curse inherent potentially ... Give me leave to tell yow that it behooves yow to satisfy the world allso, who this notwithstanding believe no ill deserving in your son."
The quote was lifted from a letter written by Sir John Holles to George Chute. "Holles, John. Letters 1587-1637, ed. P.R. Seddon. Nottingham: Thoroton Society Record Series, XXXI, 1975, Vol 1, 111."
Finally, the lands in Ireland were confirmed by patent by James I in 1630. Walter would have died, but George was still living. Wouldn't he have been needed to confirm an Irish land patent that had originated with his initial land grant? And it is this which makes his odd ommission of any Irish descendants in his will all the more mystifying.
Having no other genealogical theories to offer, I can't suggest that George Chute isn't the Chute who founded the Irish Branch; only that his record as it stands now raises a lot of questions. It would not surprise me if further research uncovers a George Chute we hadn't yet recorded within this family, or if George was actually from another branch of the Chute family altogether - and that George, the son of Philip, really did lose his own George in Ireland. Another possibility might be that there were two or even three George Chute's in Ireland who have been merged into one over the years: one who died (or rumored to have died), one who was knighted and one who married an Evans and who was the father of Daniel.
Lastly, there is also considerable discrepancy about the dates of George's knighthood: WEC states that he was knighted on 11 JUL 1660, which would have made him approxiately age 74. Yet there are records that he was knighted earlier.
According to research done by Steve Chute, "The General Armory of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales by Sir Bernard Burke, CB, LLD and Ulster King of Arms states that the George of Stockwell, Surrey was knighted on the 14 Oct 1608 by Sir Arthur Chichester, then The Lord Deputy in Ireland for King James I. Yet WEC states he was knighted in 1660 which would have been after the Civil War and in the time of Charles II. Could he have been knighted twice??"
The date provided by Burke would have made him 22 years old, and would have been a date closer to the Ireland expedition for which it is assumed he was knighted.
Also, according to Steve Chute, "... the Virginia Charter of 1612 lists Sir George (ie already knighted) as well as some others from the Bethersden area and we know that George's brother Walter was a Captain with Sir Walter Raleigh in 1597. We also know that Walter was knighted before 1620 as a stockholders list of the Virginia Company lists him as Sir Walter Chute. Francis in Arundel believes that this is the George who as a teenager joined a punitive expedition to Munster in retaliation for the Desmond Rebellion that started about 1578 and dragged on for many years. He was awarded lands in Dingle & Castle Island in Munster for services rendered and his Knighthood was also probably a reflection of that. He married in Ireland and had at least one child Daniel but returned to England in 1609 and purchased the manor Stockwell. Francis thinks he then remarried probably twice more and lived to about 85 yrs."
The earlier date of 1608 makes more sense, but both are recorded.
WEC: "He went into Ireland during the rebellion of Desmond, 1578, and obtained grants of land near Dingle, which were soon, however, alienated."
"Irish George (by Francis' reckoning, Sir George - Philip's grandson by son George) went as a teenager to Ireland around the time of the Desmond Rebellion which started about 1578 but dragged on in stages until about 1600/01. By 1586 Queen Elizabeth's representatives were traveling throughout southern England trying to convince members of the nobility & upper class gents to move to Munster in return for virtually free land that she had confiscated from the Earl of Desmond for his traitorous behavior, nearly a quarter million acres! It was an enterprise for the rich only as they had to supply tenant farmers for the lands as well as livestock and equipment.
George probably got one of these grants which were in the area of Dingle and Limerick. Also at this time Sir Walter Raleigh became a big landholder in the same area. There followed in Munster 15 years of 'relatively' peaceful coexistence between these 'planters' as they were called and their Irish neighbors. A certain complacency developed and the planters did not keep up their bargin with the crown to pay for men at arms. So although in 1597 it was reported that the English numbered in the thousands, after rebellion broke out again in Ulster in 1600 and spread into Munster only about 200 poorly armed English settlers could be rounded up to help put down the rebellion. George & family seem to have stayed on, perhaps earning that knighthood.
His son Daniel married Johanna MacElligott, da. of John, son of Thomas. Although much of the lands of the MacElligott clan were confiscated from time to time between 1597 and 1650, Daniel aquired through this marriage the lands of Tullygarron which became Chute Hall and the family seat, his right to this property later being confirmed in 1630, according to Burke's Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland. Another source, Families of County Kerry (author unknown), states that Daniel purchased the land in 1630 at which time he supposedly married Johanna. In 1659, Daniel's son Richard held Tullygarron as well as those other lands on which George had been granted a leasehold. The place was a going concern as a census for that year indicates 170 people, 10 English and 160 Irish. Richard's daughter married a daughter of a Crosbie who was the High Sheriff for Kerry. In 1660 this Crosbie selected Richard to represent Kerry in Parliament. However, this appointment was sharply disputed by the heads of the Bennerhasset family who were large and influencial landholders in Ballymacelligott.
A costly legal battle appears to have developed and again according to Burke it was these expenses that resulted in the so called 'alienation' of much of George's original leases. Of course by this time it seems according to Francis that this George was back in England and the 'fruitful & multiplying' was being left to Daniel, Richard and their descendants. They obviously did a good job."
Frederick Stephen ("Steve") Chute, British ColumbiaIt is unknown whether the record listed below refers to a marriage by George himself or on behalf of one of his children.
From Cheshire, England: Parish and Probate RecordsHouse at Norton, near Kingston, Lancashire & Cheshire:
Original Documents relating to Lancashire and Cheshire, 1576-1701
Marriage Licences Granted within the Dincese of Chester.
Exchequer: Depositions by Commission (Cheshire). 11th and 12th Charles 1st., 1635-6
Hil., No. 23.
County: Cheshire Country: England
Sir Thos. Aston, Bart., versus Sir George Chute, knight, Robert Lipsicke, John Tilte, Thomas
Courtier. House at Norton, near Kingston
"When Sir George Chute, back from Ireland post 1608, married Margaret Welford, they had a daughter, Anne (tree on my page 127), and she was given by George the whole estate of her mother, who had died when bearing her second Chute child Francis (a girl). Monumental brass, with charming pictures, recorded on:
www.mbs-brasses.co.uk.pic_lib/October2005 brass_of_the_month.htm.Anne later married a "John Prise of the Priory of Brecknock and the Priory of Hereford, Esq. (per 1634 Visitation of Herefordshire), and they had a son Thomas Prise (possibly also daughters Margaret and Elizabeth, but the text is unclear) with of course Chute blood."
Francis Chute, Great Britain, MAR 2006PARISH OF FELTON. FELTON is bounded on the north by Ullingswick, on the west by Bodenham, on the south by Lyre-Ocle, and on the east by Moreton Jeffries, in the Hundred of Radlow.
Felton belonged before the Norman Conquest, to the Priory of St. Guthlake, or Guthlac, Hereford, amongst the possessions of which house, it is mentioned in Domesday ... Remaining annexed to this Priory until the general dissolution of religious houses, Felton affords few materials worthy of communication. In the reign of Henry III. it was held, with Thinghill, an estate in the adjacent parish of Withington; the two contained six hides, and were of the honour of Kington. 1216.
The Priory of St. Guthlakewas dissolved by Hen. VIII A.D. 1539, and in the 36'th year of his reign, he granted by letters patent to "Sir John Pryce and his heirs," all those manors of Thinghull, Felton, Hinton, Prior's-Hope, Monktown, Lyde, Prior's-Frome, Leadon, Rushock, Ballingham, &c. then worth �.40 14,9. 9d. per annum, and formerly belonging to the dissolved Priory of St. Guthlac juxta Hereford; the king reserving to himself, his heirs, &c. according to an act of parliament then made, the tenth of the rent, payable at Michaelmas. Sir John Pryce (or Ap-Rice), knt. was originally of London, but afterwards of Portham, in this county. He was preceded by three of the same name, of whom John, the first recorded in the Heraldic Visitations, married Eleanor, daughter of William Mainwaring of Egglefield, and widow of Philip Egertoii. Sir John Pryce, to whom Felton &c. were granted, married Joan, daughter of John Williams of London, and had issue, (1) George, his heir, who married Mary, daughter of Humphrey Coningsby, of Hampton-Court, in this county; (2) Richard ; (3) John; (4) William ; (5) Bartholomew; and four daughters. George had issue John, who marrying Ann, daughter and sole heiress of Sir George Chute, knt. by Mary his wife, daughter and sole heiress of the Welfords of Wistaston, had issue Thomas, who had issue John, who died without surviving male issue, but left one daughter, Mary, who married Thomas Hayton, esq. whose son Thomas Chute Hayton, esq. (father of the present William Chute Hayton, of Wistaston, esq.) sold Felton to Thomas Griffiths, Clerk, who dying A. D. 1800, left them to John Lilly, of New Court, in the Parish of Lugwardine, Clerk, who now enjoys them.
The arms of Pryce, being a patent granted by Christopher Barker, Garter King at Arms, are as follows: Sable, a chevron, argent, charged with three javelin points, sable, between three leopard's faces, argent; in chief argent, 3 game cocks, gules, combed, or.
Source: Duncumb, John. Collections Towards the History and Antiquities of the County of Hereford, Volume 2. Page 110-111. Printed by E.G. Wright, 1812. Original from the New York Public Library. Digitized Mar 3, 2009.
5. Ambrose, m. Auabell. da. of Sir John Chichester, Kt.
Source: Chute, William Edward. A Genealogy and History of the Chute Family in America: With Some Account of the Family in Great Britain and Ireland, with an Account of Forty Allied Families Gathered from the Most Authentic Sources. Salem, Massachusetts, 1894. Page 9
1411 is a document date only. Stated relative is John Madison Chittester (spelled Chidester). Lived during the time of the Black Death (Bubonic Plague). He is the only child listed on the Heraldic Register for the 6th generation, leaving the possibility that he may have been the only survivor of the Bubonic Plague (1348-1349) in that generation.
"George5 had Ambrose6 of Taunton, m. Amabel Chittester, daughter of Sir John C, and had Edward7 and Christian7."Source: The Heraldic Register Recording the Armorial Bearings and Genealogies of American Families, page 142
"... George Chute, lord of the manor of Taunton in 1334; this gentleman wedded a daughter of Thomas Tirrell and was s. by his son, Ambrose Chute, who m. Anabell, daughter of Sir John Chichester, and had a daughter Christian, the wife of Ralph Menell, amd a son and heir, Edmond Chute."
Source: A Genealogical and Heraldic History of Great Britain and Ireland, Enjoying Territorial Possessions or High Official Rank But Uninvested with Heritable Honors, John Burke, Esq., Volume I. Published for Henry Colburn by R. Bentley, New Burlington Street, London. 1833.
Francis Chute in Chutes of the Vyne makes the excellent point that the Black Plague may have been something of a boon to the Chute family. As so many people died, and so much land became available for use, those few survivors who made it through this period were able to quickly rise above their traditional station in life. Not only did Ambrose and and his wife survive, at least two of their children did as well, and we begin to see the family move into land ownership and more upwardly mobile marriages. The oral tradition that Edmond, great-great grandson of Ambrose, sold the "Taunton Manor" to Lord Denham - neither scenario being possible as the Bishops of Winchester owned the land in Taunton and there WAS no Lord Denham at that time - may have actually been an invented family history derived from Chutes now beginning to acquire real property for themselves in the wake of several episodes of the Black Plague.
Source: Chute, Francis Challoner. The Chutes of the Vyne. Woodfield Publishing Group, 2005. Page 120