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A) BORDER REIVER FAMILIES DNA STUDY, focused on DYS393=12 |
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This page has several parts; please click on the
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Jim
Elliott's Discussion of Methods of Analyzing "Deep Ancestry" |
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(Results
collected from Y-Search, Y-Base, and various DNA Results webpages cited in
the chart below:) |
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A)
BORDER REIVER FAMILIES DNA STUDY, focused on DYS393=12 - Chart |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Jim
Elliott's ALL Border Reivers by Surname DNA Study |
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B)
The Most Common Marker Values of Y-Chromosome Results by Haplogroups |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Jim
Elliott's ALL Border Reivers by Haplogroup DNA Study |
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The information
in the chart below was updated to 8 August 2007. This page is no longer being maintained.
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C)
Background of Border Reivers "DYS393=12" Y-DNA Study |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Whit
Athey's Haplogroup Predictor Program |
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will remain
available as a resource, and as background for the information contained in
the annexed SNP Results page. |
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D)
DNA Study Note re Blood Group B |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
SNP Testing by
Ethnoancestry.com |
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See: |
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E)
Discussion of the Hypothesis |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Summary of public
results of R1b and S21 SNP tests, by John McEwan |
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F)
Join the Border Reiver Families DNA Study: |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
DNA-Fingerprint.com
Advanced DNA testing Laboratory |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
DNA-Fingerprint.com
The DYS464X (Extended) Test |
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Interested persons should review notes 5 and 6, below, and are referred to the
ht35 project at FTDNA: |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
International Society of Genetic GenealogyY-DNA
Haplogroup Tree 2006 |
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http://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35/ |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
World Families Network
- Y-Haplogroups |
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To join the ht35 project: |
http://www.familytreedna.com/ftGroupJoin.aspx?act=groupjoin&joincode=T25154&group=ht35&special=true |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
To
Search Oxford Ancestor's Y-Line
Database see: Click Here |
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and See: |
http://home.comcast.net/~philgoff/DNAresults.htm |
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Note 5:
"…the R1b1c Haplogroup, characterized by
being positive for M269 and negative for all other previously known SNPs in the R1b tree, has |
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<==== |
SEE NOTES re FTDNA's DeepSNP R1b1c U series
tests |
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SEE NOTES re FTDNA's DeepSNP R1b1c U series
tests |
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recently been graced by
a new set of markers that have been published upon and known as the U series
of markers as discovered by Drs.
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Garvey and Jack
Balantine. These 4 new markers
(including U106; U198; P107; & U152) bring 2 new major subgroups to the
panel and |
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if
the initial findings continue to hold, we expect that 40% of people who are
M269+ will fall into one of these 2 sub-groups, for now |
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known as R1b1c9 and
R1b1c10." per a 6 March 2008 message from FTDNA. One is intrigued by the latest message from FTDNA
soliciting |
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participation
in the further testing for SNPs for subclades "for now known as R1b1c9
and R1b1c10", which includes this statement "the R1b1c
Haplogroup..., |
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characterized
by being positive for M269 and negative for all other previously known SNPs
in the R1b tree". The logic appears to be that R1b1c may
have started |
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as ht35, and subsequently mutated into ht15,
with all the downstream SNPs being associated with ht15. This
probably makes some sense... however, |
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it remains to be seen whether any of the
downstream SNPs might have occured prior to the mutation from ht35 to
ht15. |
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Note 6: Per a 6 March 2008 message from Vince Vizachero: "Over the past few months, a lot of progress has been
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SEE NOTES
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SEE NOTES
re testing of DYF385 & DYF411 for ht35 |
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As you know, the modal value for DYS393 in ht35 is 12. Unfortunately, many ht35 haplotypes have
DYS393=13 and many ht15 haplotypes have DYS393=12 - |
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mostly by virtue of their sheer
numbers. DYS461=11 has always been a
useful partner test, but it has never been clear how we should evaluate |
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a conflict between DYS393 and DYS461. It turns out that there
is a third marker, DYF385, that is particularly
diagnostic |
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for ht35. This is not the same as DYS385,
but rather a palindromic marker offered by FTDNA in its Advanced Orders. It
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DYF385=10,11 but that the modal value for ht35 is DYF385=10,10. In fact, so far 100%
of the suspected ht35 haplotypes I've tested have DYF385=10,11. |
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It does not appear that many members of the
Border Reivers have tested either DYS461 or DYF385. Such testing on even a small group of your
members might answer |
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the
ht15/ht35 question rather definitively… If you have members that are willing
to order those two markers, I invite them to join the ht35 project so that we
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establish
the probability that they truly are ht35.
[Presently], The total cost of the tests would be $28.70 (less if they
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past). See the ht 35 project at: |
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35/ |
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The following is quoted
from the goals statement of the ht35 project: "Our
goal is to investigate the relationship between YCC Haplogroup R1b1c and |
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TaqI 49a,f haplotype 35
(aka ht35). So
far, no SNP has been found to distinguish ht35 from other forms of R1b1c
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Our first working
hypothesis is that all ht35 haplotypes will be R1b1c*
(i.e. negative for known all SNPs known to define subclades of R1b1c). |
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Our second working
hypothesis is that ht35 contains much higher frequencies
of DYS393=12 and DYS461=11 than ht15. |
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Our third working
hypothesis is that ht35 contains much higher frequencies
of DYF385=10,10 than ht15. |
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Therefore,
our present focus is on accumulating extended Y-SNP and Y-STR testing on any
R1b1c* haplotypes exhibiting DYS393=12, DYS461=11 and/or |
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DYF385=10,10
with the hope of finding reliable ways of distinguishing ht35 from ht15
without the need to depend on the expensive, unpleasant and |
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(at the moment)
commercially unavailable TaqI 49a,f test." One can hope that
further research interest and a narrowing of focus will lead to
definitive |
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TaqI 49a,f testing ! |
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To
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http://www.familytreedna.com/ftGroupJoin.aspx?act=groupjoin&joincode=T25154&group=ht35&special=true |
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Note
1) This page was initiated in late
2003 and early 2004. Gradually the
chart has been enhanced and data has been added. |
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The intention
was to gather DNA Results relating to R1b individuals who exhibit the DYS393=12 allele in order to be
able to analyze |
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the
data for patterns and structure which might provide clues as to the nature
and origins of occurances of the allele in connection with the |
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BORDER REIVER
FAMILIES DNA STUDY. |
See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/dnareivers.htm and |
Background
of Border Reivers "DYS393=12" Y-DNA Study; |
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Discussion of the Hypothesis |
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the motivations behind the study and this page. |
Jim
Elliott, one of the collaborators in |
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the study, has prepared an
in-depth |
Discussion
of Methods of Analyzing "Deep Ancestry" |
He has gone on to collect a |
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large number of
Haplotypes from amongst studies of various surnames found along the
Anglo-Scottish Border. See his webpages: |
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4) FTDNA offers a number of SNP's downstream from any of
their "estimates" of
participants' Haplogroup. Other
testing |
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"All
Border Reivers by Surname DNA Study" |
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"All
Border Reivers by Haplogroup DNA Study" |
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presently also offer
"in-depth" SNP testing,
including additional SNP's "downstream" from the general
Haplogroup SNP |
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there is a wide
range of Haplogroups found along the Borders, and indeed, throughout
Britain. Haplogroups such as C, G, I,
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Thus, FTDNA & other
companies test R1b for the presence of
SNP=P25+, and offer additional downstream SNP's: |
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P,
Q, R, R1, R1a, and R1b are all found in the area. Sources may have included the Celts, Roman
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found at: |
DNA Heritage "Y-SNP Tests" |
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Normans. While Jim Elliott continued his research
and study of the wide range of Haplogroups in the Borders, this page
continued to |
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found at: |
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Jim Elliott's
Discussion of Methods of Analyzing "Deep Ancestry" |
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concentrate on
wider occurances of DYS393=12, and to explore means of proving the hypothesis
that most often it has deep ancestral roots |
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SNP's Downstream from P25+ include:
M73 '=> R1b1b; M269 '=>
R1b1c; M37'=> R1b1c1; M65'=> R1b1c2; M126'=> R1b1c3; M153'=>
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Border Reivers by Surname DNA Study |
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in West Asian & Southeast European
populations. Additional participants
are welcome. |
Join the Border Reiver Families DNA Study! |
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M153'=> R1b1c4; M160'=> R1b1c5; M167
(SRY2627)'=> R1b1c6; M222'=>r1b1c7; P66'=>R1b1c8; U106'=>R1b1c9;
and U152'=>R1b1c10. |
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Jim Elliott's ALL
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and see the ht35
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http://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35/ |
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additional
research may lead to additional "R1b1c?" SNP's downstream from
M269. |
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Genealogy-DNA List Rootsweb Archives |
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Anyone interested in SNP's for other Haplotypes,
such as C, G, J2, K1, N, P, Q, etc.,
should consult the various company's additional offerings. |
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Note 2) This page
underwent a major review in November, 2005.
Observers will note some of the data now [as updated to 5 October
2006] |
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Another company, DNA Fingerprint, now merged into
FTDNA, offered an interesting test of the DYS464a,b,c,d complex which may be
of further |
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includes a "wine-colored" background. This data has been gleaned from Jim
Elliott's Border Reiver's by Haplogroup webpage. In a |
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number
of cases the data was previously shared data. Where Jim Elliott's data was more
inclusive, the existing data was enhanced |
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sure to check with FTDNA regarding such "Advanced Testing". |
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with his information.
In some cases, existing data was more inclusive, and has been
retained. |
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Note 3) Contributions
of Blood Group information from
interested participants would be welcomed.
We are interested in any correlation between blood group and an
indication of origins in South Eastern Europe and Central Asia. Thanks ! |
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"Note - On May 19, 2003 FTDNA reassigned the
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Dropping
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Additional Results |
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Loci tested by Family Tree DNA [FTDNA] and presented in FTDNA
Format for Loci 1-37; DYS389ii -389i result added to facilitate comparison
with Oxford Ancestor's results, and aide analysis of results: => |
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SNP Results? |
Blood Group
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DYF 371 [See
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DYF 401S1 / DYS
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The DNA-F DYS464X
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Elliott Dacian
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14 |
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Est. Mutation
Rates from WFN: |
Marker and Mutation Comparisons '=> |
.0012 |
.0045 |
.0016 |
.0036 |
.0033 (*) |
.0005
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.0005 |
.0045 |
.0021 |
.0016 |
.0028 |
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.0066 |
.0014 (*) |
.0005 |
.0005 |
.0045 |
.0020 |
0.0028 |
0.0075 |
0.0035 |
0.0035 |
0.0035 |
0.0035 |
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.0028 |
.0036
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.0014
(*)
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.0012 |
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.0028 |
.0005
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.0045
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.0028
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.0013 |
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See
Marsh: |
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Est. Mutation
Rates from SMGF: |
Marker and Mutation Comparisons '=> |
.00111 |
.0044 |
.00153 |
.00316 |
0.0028 |
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.00027 |
.00038 |
.00418 |
.00218 |
.00147 |
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.00118 |
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.00031 |
.00023 |
.00388 |
.00174 |
.00236 |
.00646 |
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.00304 |
.00124 |
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.002 |
.0010 |
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.00231 |
.00053 |
.0038 |
.00236 |
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.002 |
.002 |
.002 |
.002 |
.002 |
.002 |
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Test By: |
Results Pages
See Number: |
Surname Group: |
Haplogroup: (Green = SNP Tested) |
SNP Results? |
Blood Group Info: |
Migration
Pattern: |
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DYS19 [SMGF=
DNAF+1] |
See Y-STR Nomenclature Conversion Table by
DNA-Fingerprint Caution: Not All
Relative Genetics, etc., results have been checked for consistency with FTDNA
results |
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(389ii-389i)= |
Elliott Structural
Analysis |
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DYS448 [SMGF=
DNAF+3] |
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Results Pages
See Number: |
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GATA-H4 [SMGF=
DNAF+1] |
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DYS461 [SMGF=
DNAF-1] |
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DYS452 [RG=
DNAF-19] |
DYS463 [RG= DNAF
- 2] |
Results Pages See
Number: |
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Test By: |
Results Pages
See Number: |
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Haplogroup: (Green = SNP Tested) |
SNP Results? |
Blood Group
Info: |
DYS#s= ~ AMH=> |
393 |
390 |
19/394 |
391 |
** 385a |
** 385b |
426 |
388 |
* / ** 439/
YGATAA4 |
*** 389-1 |
392 |
*** 389-2 |
(389ii-389i)= |
Elliott Structural
Analysis |
** 458 |
459a |
459b |
455 |
454 |
447 |
437 |
448 |
** 449 |
** 464a |
** 464b |
** 464c |
** 464d |
** 464e |
DYS#s |
460 |
GATA H4 |
YCA II a |
YCA II b |
456 |
607 |
** 576 |
** 570 |
** CDY a |
** CDY b |
442 |
438 |
425 = DYF371X-T |
461
/ GATA A7.2 |
462 |
YGATAA10 |
YGATAC4 / DYS 635 |
GGAAT1B07 |
DYS 441 |
DYS444 |
DYS445 |
DYS446 |
DYS452 |
DYS463 |
DYS#s |
DYF 371 [See DYS 425] |
DYF 399 |
DYF
401S1 / DYS 527 |
DYS
434 |
DYS 643 |
DYS
725 |
DYS
726 |
From: |
http://www.northwestanalysis.net/R1bModals.xls |
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DYS >>>> |
393 |
390 |
19 |
391 |
385a |
385b |
426 |
388 |
439 |
389i |
392 |
389ii |
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458 |
459a |
459b |
455 |
454 |
447 |
437 |
448 |
449 |
464a |
464b |
464c |
464d |
464e |
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460 |
H4 |
YCAIIa |
YCAIIb |
456 |
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442 |
438 |
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462 |
A10 |
C4 |
B07 |
441 |
444 |
445 |
446 |
452 |
463 |
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Nordvelt's
"Y-Haplogroup R1b Varieties and Their Modal Haplotypes" |
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In which he used data from the SMGF database, plus DYS464 from
Ysearch as at 10 June 2006. |
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R1b-E-Eur |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29;30 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
18 |
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11 |
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19 |
23 |
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12 |
12 |
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11 |
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10 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
14 |
11 |
22 |
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R1b-East1 |
12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
28 |
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9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
28 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
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13;14 |
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Data here
presented, in FTDNA format, for comparison. |
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R1b-East2 |
12 |
24 |
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10 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
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13 |
14 |
29 |
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15 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
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Other |
R48TT |
ht35 |
R1b |
See: Italy DNA Project |
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Turkey |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
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12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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R48TT |
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R48TT |
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FTDNA |
7MARF |
Mainenti |
R1b1b1 |
See SNP Results ! |
SNP=m73+ |
Santa Croce, Sicily, IT |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
13 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
13 |
29 |
15 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
22 |
15 |
20 |
32 |
12 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
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FTDNA |
HZZ3E |
Scheer |
R1b1c |
See SNP Results ! |
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England |
12 |
25 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
15 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
33 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
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HZZ3E |
10 |
10 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
18 |
17 |
34 |
38 |
12 |
12 |
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HZZ3E |
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DNAHer |
N8CP9 |
Blanchard |
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England |
12 |
25 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
15 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
33 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
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N8CP9 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
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12 |
12 |
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11 |
11 |
13 |
23 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
22 |
N8CP9 |
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DNAHer |
TWUYB |
Blanshard |
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Newcastle, Nhb, Eng. |
12 |
25 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
15 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
33 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
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TWUYB |
9 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
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12 |
12 |
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11 |
11 |
13 |
23 |
10 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
22 |
TWUYB |
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FTDNA |
N7HWE |
Turner |
R1b |
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Scotland |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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N7HWE |
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N7HWE |
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FTDNA |
VDBKC |
Turner |
R1b |
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British-USA |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
View |
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VDBKC |
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VDBKC |
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FTDNA |
54SF5 |
Turner |
R1b |
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Scotland |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
View |
16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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54SF5 |
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54SF5 |
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FTDNA |
5Q4Y3 |
Turner |
R1b |
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Scotland |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
View |
16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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5Q4Y3 |
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5Q4Y3 |
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FTDNA |
ZHC83 |
Turner |
R1b |
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Scots-Irish-USA |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
View |
16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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ZHC83 |
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ZHC83 |
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FTDNA |
AQPJ9 |
Turner |
R1b |
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Scots-Irish-USA |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
14 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
View |
16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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AQPJ9 |
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AQPJ9 |
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FTDNA |
9Z4DE |
Turner |
R1b |
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Unknown |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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9Z4DE |
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9Z4DE |
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FTDNA |
DPZYT |
Turner |
R1b |
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Scotland |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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DPZYT |
12 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
18 |
16 |
34 |
36 |
12 |
12 |
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DPZYT |
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FTDNA |
QU6C6 |
Turner |
R1b |
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Aberdeenshr,
Sct |
12 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
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QU6C6 |
12 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
18 |
17 |
34 |
36 |
12 |
12 |
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QU6C6 |
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FTDNA |
M2GNG |
Turner |
R1b |
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Maryland, USA |
12 |
24 |
15 |
10 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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M2GNG |
13 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
19 |
16 |
34 |
36 |
12 |
12 |
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M2GNG |
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FTDNA |
BFWKX |
Manchego |
R1b |
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Belen, NM |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
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BFWKX |
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BFWKX |
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FTDNA |
47KUA |
Moore '#M09991 |
R1b |
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Scots-Irish-USA |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
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47KUA |
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47KUA |
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FTDNA |
y-search
E934H |
Crow |
R1b |
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British-USA |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
View |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
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y-search
E934H |
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y-search
E934H |
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y-search
A6ZHK |
Armstrong |
R1b1b2 |
See SNP Results ! |
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Scots-Irish-USA |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
View |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
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y-search
A6ZHK |
11 |
12 |
19 |
23 |
15 |
14 |
19 |
17 |
37 |
37 |
12 |
12 |
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y-search
A6ZHK |
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FTDNA |
K8S6N |
James |
R1b |
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Philadelphia, PA |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
28 |
15 |
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K8S6N |
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K8S6N |
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OA-DNAHer |
2AD23 |
Roberts |
R1b1c |
See SNP Results ! |
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12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
18 |
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2AD23 |
11 |
12 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
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12 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
10 |
13 |
23 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
22 |
2AD23 |
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DNAHer |
Ybase=YSLT8 |
Roberts |
R1b1c |
2AD23=YSLT8 |
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12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
|
16 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
18 |
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Ybase=YSLT8 |
11 |
12 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
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12 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
10 |
13 |
23 |
10 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
11 |
22 |
Ybase=YSLT8 |
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QNC32 |
Campbell |
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County Down,
Ireland |
12 |
24 |
15 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
15 |
19 |
33 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
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QNC32 |
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QNC32 |
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FTDNA |
99NRE |
Campbell #15567 |
R1b |
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12 |
23 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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17 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
12 |
21 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
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99NRE |
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99NRE |
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FTDNA |
N22932 |
Timm |
R1b1 |
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12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
15 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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FTDNA |
2XSW8 |
Graham |
R1b |
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Scotch-Irish-USA |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
View |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
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FTDNA |
UAAJU |
Campbell |
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Ontario, Canada |
12 |
23 |
15 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
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UAAJU |
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UAAJU |
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FTDNA |
N32312 |
Quinn |
R1b1 |
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12 |
24 |
15 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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FTDNA |
RAYGV |
Dunne |
R1b |
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Cork, Ireland |
12 |
25 |
14 |
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17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
18 |
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RAYGV |
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RAYGV |
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NGP |
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Craig |
R1b1 |
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Scotland>Belfast>US |
12 |
25 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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FTDNA |
B4423 |
Stewart |
R1b |
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>US |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
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B4423 |
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B4423 |
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NPG-FTDNA |
y-search
JCHHS |
Trainor |
R1b |
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Ireland |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
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y-search
JCHHS |
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y-search
JCHHS |
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FTDNA |
SE3RE |
Graham |
R1b |
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Scotland |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
View |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
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SE3RE |
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SE3RE |
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3X7BW |
Bond |
R1b |
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Cumberland Co,
KY |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
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3X7BW |
10 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
18 |
17 |
37 |
40 |
12 |
12 |
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3X7BW |
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FTDNA |
NVB6U |
Plunkett |
R1b1b2 |
See SNP Results ! |
|
Tempo, Co Fermanagh |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
28 |
15 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
16 |
18 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
18 |
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NVB6U |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
17 |
15 |
17 |
16 |
35 |
37 |
12 |
12 |
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NVB6U |
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FTDNA |
A2WFZ |
Plunkett |
R1b |
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Tempo, Co Fermanagh |
12 |
25 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
28 |
15 |
|
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
16 |
18 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
18 |
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A2WFZ |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
17 |
15 |
18 |
16 |
35 |
37 |
12 |
12 |
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A2WFZ |
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N31231 |
Pascoe |
R1b1c |
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12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
28 |
15 |
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FTDNA |
N36244 |
Tuthill |
R1b1 |
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12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
14 |
28 |
15 |
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FTDNA |
YX93X |
Scott |
R1b1c |
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12 |
25 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
View |
17 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
14 |
19 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
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YX93X |
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YX93X |
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FTDNA |
y-search
MZ7ZZ |
Kontos |
R1b |
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Greece>USA |
12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
12 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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y-search
MZ7ZZ |
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y-search
MZ7ZZ |
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From: |
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DYS >>>> |
393 |
390 |
19 |
391 |
385a |
385b |
426 |
388 |
439 |
389i |
392 |
389ii |
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458 |
459a |
459b |
455 |
454 |
447 |
437 |
448 |
449 |
464a |
464b |
464c |
464d |
464e |
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460 |
H4 |
YCAIIa |
YCAIIb |
456 |
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442 |
438 |
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462 |
A10 |
C4 |
B07 |
441 |
444 |
445 |
446 |
452 |
463 |
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Nordvelt's
"Y-Haplogroup R1b Varieties and Their Modal Haplotypes" |
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In which he used data from the SMGF database, plus DYS464 from
Ysearch as at 10 June 2006. |
|
R1b-E-Eur |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29;30 |
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16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
18 |
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11 |
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19 |
23 |
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12 |
12 |
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11 |
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10 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
14 |
11 |
22 |
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R1b-East1 |
12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
28 |
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9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
28 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
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12 |
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11 |
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12 |
13;14 |
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Data here
presented, in FTDNA format, for comparison. |
|
R1b-East2 |
12 |
24 |
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10 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
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13 |
14 |
29 |
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15 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
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Other |
R48TT |
ht35 |
R1b |
See: Italy DNA Project |
|
Turkey |
12 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
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12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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R48TT |
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11 |
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R48TT |
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RELGEN |
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Fawcett? |
R1b1c |
|
|
DUR?>ON |
12 |
24 |
|
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
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10 |
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19 |
23 |
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12 |
11 |
11 |
10 |
13 |
23 |
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FTDNA |
JW47S |
Campbell #428 |
R1b |
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|
NC, US |
12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
|
19 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
|
JW47S |
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JW47S |
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FTDNA |
8CBUR |
Campbell #7021 |
R1b |
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|
>US |
12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
|
19 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
|
8CBUR |
11 |
12 |
19 |
24 |
15 |
15 |
20 |
17 |
39 |
39 |
12 |
12 |
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8CBUR |
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FTDNA |
VJCPA |
Campbell #26483 |
R1b |
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|
TN, US |
12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
|
17 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
|
VJCPA |
10 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
15 |
18 |
19 |
17 |
34 |
37 |
12 |
12 |
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VJCPA |
|
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DNAHer |
21183711 |
Leigh |
R1b |
|
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|
12 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
|
18 |
9 |
10 |
10 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
17 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
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10 |
DNAH12,+1=13 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
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12 |
12 |
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12 |
11 |
15 |
23 |
|
12 |
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14 |
11+19=30,DNAH |
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FTDNA |
|