| Researching Strong(e)s and Strang(e)s in Britain and
Ireland; 2nd Edition |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Jim
Elliott's Discussion of Methods of Analyzing "Deep Ancestry" |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Jim
Elliott's ALL Border Reivers by Surname DNA Study |
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The Strong, Stronge, Strang, Strange, &
LeStrange DNA Study Results Page |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Jim
Elliott's ALL Border Reivers by Haplogroup DNA Study |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Whit
Athey's Haplogroup Predictor Program |
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| This page has several parts; please click on the part you wish
to review: |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
SNP Testing by
Ethnoancestry.com |
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| A) STRONG, STRONGE, STRANGE, STRANG, &
LeSTRANGE Y-DNA RESULTS - See Chart
Below |
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Search
FTDNA Surname Projects |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Summary of public
results of R1b and S21 SNP tests, by John McEwan |
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| (For
Armstrong Results, See the Armstrong DNA Results page:) |
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Search FTDNA Surname Projects |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
DNA-Fingerprint.com
Advanced DNA testing Laboratory |
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Mitochondrial DNA Results, See mtDNA Results page:) |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
DNA-Fingerprint.com
The DYS464X (Extended) Test |
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| B) The Most Common Marker Values of Y-Chromosome Results by
Haplogroups |
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Go To: |
BORDER
REIVER FAMILIES Y-DNA STUDY: Directory Page |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
International Society of Genetic GenealogyY-DNA
Haplogroup Tree 2006 |
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| C) Comparison with
Strong examples: |
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Go To: |
BORDER
REIVER FAMILIES Y-DNA STUDY: R1b Results Page |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
World Families Network
- Y-Haplogroups |
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| D) Interpreting Results: |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
To
Search Oxford Ancestor's Y-Line
Database see: Click Here |
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| E) Grouping of Test Results: |
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Go To: |
BORDER
REIVER FAMILIES Y-DNA STUDY: I, J, P, R, R1b-subclades Results Page |
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and See: |
http://home.comcast.net/~philgoff/DNAresults.htm |
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| F) Findings based on Test Results: |
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| G) End of Page |
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Go To: |
mtDNA Results Webpage |
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See: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/dna_by_surname.htm |
Enniskillen
and Donegal Bay DNA Results Webpage |
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Note
6) FTDNA offers a number of SNP's downstream from any of
their "estimates" of
participants' Haplogroup. Other
testing |
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[Note: This is a specialized page devoted to DNA
studies of certain surnames occuring in the geographic area from Enniskillen,
westerly to around Donegal Bay in Ireland. |
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organizations
presently also offer
"in-depth" SNP testing,
including additional SNP's "downstream" from the general
Haplogroup SNP |
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| JOIN
THIS PROJECT ! |
To
do so, go to the following link and order up a test. YDNA25 is
probably |
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Certain reiver families
are known to have been "planted" in this area of Ulster from the
Anglo-Scottish border area during the 17th & 18th centuries] |
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determinant.
Thus, FTDNA & other
companies test R1b for the presence of
SNP=M343+; P25+'=>R1b1; and other additional downstream SNP's: |
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| adequate to tell us what we need
to know at this point, although 37 markers is preferable:
See: |
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The International Society of Genetic Genealogists
maintain and regularly update a website tracking the SNP's defining Y-DNA
Haplogroups. It can be viewed at: |
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| http://www.familytreedna.com:80/surname_join.asp?code=D84650 |
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Browse the Rootsweb
Strong list archives |
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http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_YDNATreeTrunk.html |
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on the drop down menu link and select the test you want from there...
follow the menu... you can |
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Browse the Rootsweb
Strang list archives |
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Additionally,
Thomas Krahn of FTDNA has provided an online HaploTree which is updated as
new SNP's are documented, defining the Haplogroups and various
subclades. |
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| order
and pay by credit card
on line. The Project Administrator will be automatically
informed when you |
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Browse the Rootsweb
Strange list archives |
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See: |
http://ytree.ftdna.com/index.php?name=Draft |
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| have joined the
project. Let him know if you have any
questions or problems. {:-) |
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To view the SNPs that are tested in each FTDNA Deep
Clade test, see this page: |
http://www.familytreedna.com/deepclade.html |
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Check
with FTDNA regarding such "Advanced Testing". |
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[See: |
DNA-Fingerprint.com The DYS464X (Extended) Test ] |
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| Note
1: This page represents an analysis
of the DNA Results data available from
Participants in the Strong-Strange-L'Estrange DNA Project, and other sources. It is provided for the |
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interested researchers. Certain
aspects of the data presentation differ from that presented by FTDNA; compare the Public Website at: |
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| http://www.familytreedna.com/public/strong-strange-lestrange/ |
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| Tthis page
represents only the opinion of the author, and is always subject to revision
in light of additional data or information from whatever sources may become
available. |
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| A)
Results Chart based on Y-DNA testing performed through Family Tree DNA |
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| Updated Results through: |
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"Note - On May 19, 2003 FTDNA reassigned the
values for 464a,b,c,and d. |
See Rel
Gen Reporting Conventions Note Below: |
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Dropping each by one. These results reflect those
changes." |
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DYS#s |
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LOCI: |
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KIT#s
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Surname |
See Notes |
Y-Base / Y-Search links: |
Ancestral
Locations & Migration Patterns |
LINKS, NOTES, ETC. |
MRCA LINKS |
Haplogroup (Green = SNP Tested); Haplogroup
assignments updated by FTDNA on 5 March 2011, effectively changing R1b1b2 to
R1b1a2. |
SNP '= See note
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389ii-389i= Result |
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Phylo Tree. org |
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See
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Nomenclature Update |
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Marker and Mutation Comparisons '=> |
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http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_12.html |
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http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_25.html |
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http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_37.html |
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Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree |
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Kerchner's YDNA Haplogroup Descriptions & Information
Links |
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Kerchner's mtDNA Haplogroup Descriptions &
Information Links |
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Krahn's
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SEE DNA Notes: |
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Estimated
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0.002 |
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Result |
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Results Number: |
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Danish Hypothetical |
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Add'l Markers - See FTDNA Public Page |
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P6AUC |
Nisula [Strang] |
J.Strang 1809-66 |
P6AUC |
Lohtaja,
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Strang |
309E9 |
4BCYV |
FR>NJ>Alabama |
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Strang |
Tompkins, NPE ? |
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NY>PEI> |
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R1b1a2 |
DNA Note#23 |
13 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
0 |
18 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
0 |
176758 |
Strang |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
17 |
15 |
20 |
17 |
39 |
39 |
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12 |
0 |
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| Unknown; Not Henri d'Estrang; STR's & HG do not match |
226260 |
Strang |
DNA Note#23 |
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Jesse Strang, b.~ 1763 Westchester Co, NY>PEI |
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R1b1a2 |
See: GenForum Discussions |
13 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
0 |
18 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
0 |
226260 |
Strang |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
17 |
15 |
20 |
17 |
39 |
39 |
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12 |
0 |
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TNC6J |
Tompkins |
Prince Edward Co , ON, Canada |
TNC6J |
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R1b1a2 |
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13 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
0 |
18 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
15 |
19 |
30 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
0 |
TNC6J |
Thompkins |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
17 |
15 |
20 |
17 |
39 |
39 |
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12 |
0 |
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| HAPLOTYPE "I" MODAL VALUES |
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=> |
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13 |
22-25 |
14,15,16 |
10,11 |
10,11,13,14 |
14,15 |
11=HG2 |
14 |
11 |
12,13 |
11 |
28-31 |
16 |
0 |
15 |
8 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
16 |
20 |
29 |
12 |
14 |
15 |
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0 |
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0? |
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| Donegal Bay |
24669 |
(Patterson) |
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YWHUW |
IRE>PA>CA |
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I2b1 |
See SNP Tree |
14 |
22 |
15 |
10 |
15 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
12 |
31 |
18 |
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16 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
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24669 |
Donegal Bay |
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148954 |
Strange |
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DYVQH |
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I2b1 |
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14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
15 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
33 |
19 |
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15 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
15 |
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11 |
9 |
19 |
21 |
14 |
14 |
17 |
18 |
35 |
42 |
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10 |
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| ANGLO-NORMAN LeSTRANGE ANCESTRAL MODAL HAPLOTYPE ? |
(J2) |
=> |
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12 |
23 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
13? |
11 |
16 |
12 |
14? |
11 |
31? |
17 |
0? |
15 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
15 |
20 |
34 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
0? |
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11 |
10 |
22 |
22 |
17 |
14 |
19? |
18 |
34 |
37? |
11 |
9 |
0? |
Add'l Markers - See FTDNA Public Page |
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| Norman ? |
6491 |
Strange |
#6 |
NPK7Z |
ENG>VA> |
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#1,
#2 |
J2 |
See SNP Tree |
12 |
23 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
13 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
14 |
12 |
31 |
17 |
0 |
15 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
15 |
20 |
34 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
0 |
6491 |
Norman ? |
11 |
10 |
22 |
22 |
17 |
14 |
19 |
18 |
34 |
37 |
11 |
9 |
3 |
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86021 |
Strange |
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2244A |
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J2a4 |
See SNP Tree |
12 |
23 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
14 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
15 |
12 |
32 |
17 |
1 |
15 |
9 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
15 |
20 |
34 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
1 |
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Norman ? |
11 |
10 |
22 |
22 |
17 |
14 |
18 |
18 |
34 |
35 |
11 |
9 |
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136595 |
Strong |
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ZT8GB |
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J2 |
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12 |
24 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
17 |
11 |
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12 |
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11 |
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17 |
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16 |
8 |
9 |
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11 |
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16 |
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29 |
13 |
15 |
15 |
18 |
17 |
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166215 |
D-S |
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6MD8X |
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J2 ? |
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12 |
24 |
16 |
9 |
14 |
15 |
11 |
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12 |
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11 |
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17 |
? |
17 |
8 |
9 |
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11 |
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16 |
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28 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
17 |
? |
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11 |
11 |
19 |
20 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
35 |
37 |
11 |
10 |
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174506 |
DeGraw |
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MKERS |
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J2 ? |
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12 |
24 |
16 |
9 |
14 |
17 |
11 |
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12 |
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11 |
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17 |
? |
17 |
8 |
9 |
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11 |
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16 |
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28 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
17 |
? |
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11 |
11 |
19 |
20 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
35 |
36 |
11 |
10 |
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sum of |
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MARKERS |
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=> |
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393 |
390 |
19 |
391 |
385a |
385b |
426 |
388 |
439 |
389-1 |
392 |
389-2 |
Result |
sum of |
458 |
459a |
459b |
455 |
454 |
447 |
437 |
448 |
449 |
464a |
464b |
464c |
464d |
sum of |
DYS#s |
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460 |
GATA H4 |
YCA II a |
YCA II b |
456 |
607 |
576 |
570 |
CDY a |
CDY b |
442 |
438 |
? |
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| R1a1
"VIKING" East European TYPICAL HAPLOTYPE - |
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=> |
R1a1 |
Compare ISOGG SNP Tree |
13 |
25 |
15 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
10 |
13 |
11 |
30 |
17 |
0 |
15 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
14 |
20 |
32 |
12 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
0 |
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Typical |
11? |
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19 |
23? |
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18? |
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38? |
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11 |
? |
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| R1a typical Haplotype |
VNDTN |
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VNDTN |
Baltic to Northern
India |
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R1a |
Compare in Y-Search: |
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12 |
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11 |
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? |
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11 |
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14 |
20 |
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VNDTN |
Y-Search cf: |
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19 |
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14 |
11 |
? |
Add'l Markers - See FTDNA Public Page |
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| Strangl |
E2101 |
Strangl |
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3W43H |
Germany |
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R1a1 |
See SNP Tree |
14 |
27 |
16 |
11 |
10 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
10 |
13 |
11 |
31 |
18 |
? |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
14 |
20 |
30 |
12 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
? |
E2101 |
Strangl - Germany |
11 |
10 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
16 |
18 |
19 |
34 |
38 |
14 |
11 |
? |
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E5051 |
Strangl |
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Austria |
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R1a1 |
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13 |
25 |
15 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
10 |
14 |
11 |
31 |
17 |
? |
15 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
15 |
20 |
32 |
12 |
15 |
15 |
16 |
? |
E5051 |
Strangl - Austria |
11 |
11 |
19 |
23 |
17 |
15 |
17 |
19 |
35 |
40 |
12 |
11 |
? |
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See Note Below |
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See Note |
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See Note |
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| Strong |
123115 |
Strong |
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USA |
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R1a1 |
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13 |
25 |
16 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
10 |
13 |
11 |
31 |
18 |
? |
14 |
8 |
9 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
14 |
15 |
34 |
13 |
15 |
16 |
16 |
? |
123115 |
Strong - USA |
11 |
12 |
19 |
22 |
15 |
15 |
18 |
18 |
33 |
38 |
13 |
11 |
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| AMH MODAL VALUES HAPLOTYPE R1b1 |
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R1b Wikipedia Discussion |
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=> |
R1b1a2 |
R1b Wikipedia Discussion |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12=HG1 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
16 |
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17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
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