Walking with Ghosts..........
a website for the descendants of Angus and Nancy McCutchen MacLeod~~
Sandhills North Carolina Branches
This page has been created as a Companion Page to the FTDNA L165/S68 Project; the information has been extracted from various internet sources , "Sandhills Streams and MacLeod Genes Five Emigrant Familys, Alexander C. McLeod, Clan MacLeod Magazine April 2008 pages 495 - 506", and/or the FTDNA L165/S68 Project.
"The Sandhills lie to the west of the Cape Fear and north of the Yadkin-Pee Dee....There are four main tributaries of the Cape Fear....Deep River, Upper Little River, then Little River and Rockfish Creek. Below these is the Drowning Creek/Lumber River tributary of the Pee Dee System...." "Sandhills Streams and MacLeod Genes Five Emigrant Familys, Alexander C. McLeod, Clan MacLeod Magazine April 2008 pages 495 - 506",
The families shown here were included in the Clan Magazine Article based upon their participation in the ACMS DNA Project and the fact that they had some form of a published genealogy. They are included on this page because they share a pattern of mutation and a TMRCA to each other/and or the Clan MacLeod Haplotype that indicates that they shared a recent MacLeod Ancestor.
Juniper
Creek/Buffalo
Creek/
Rock
Fish
Creek
/
Middle
Swamp
Family
(so
titled
in
"Sandhills
Streams
and
MacLeod
Genes
Five
Emigrant
Familys,
Alexander
C.
McLeod,
Clan
MacLeod
Magazine
April
2008
pages
495
-
506")
Three siblings left Scotland aboard the "Duke of Kent" in 1802; John, Donald and their sister Margaret McNeil who was widowed. John appears to have also been widowed by the date they left Scotland and traveled with a son. John and Margaret settled together on Juniper Creek. Donald with his wife, a McRae and their two children settled along Rockfish Creek but would eventually move to Middle Swamp.
Marker Number | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 |
ID
(FTDNA)
Modal line - Green shading indicates that it is shared between L165 and Clan MacLeod R1b Modals and different from R1b |
D Y S 3 9 3 |
D Y S 3 9 0 |
D Y S 1 9 / 3 9 4 |
D Y S 3 9 1 |
D Y S 3 8 5 a |
D Y S 3 8 5 b |
D Y S 4 2 6 |
D Y S 3 8 8 |
D Y S 4 3 9 |
D Y S 3 8 9 - 1 |
D Y S 3 9 2 |
D Y S 3 8 9 - 2 |
D Y S 4 5 8 |
D Y S 4 5 9 a |
D Y S 4 5 9 b |
D Y S 4 5 5 |
D Y S 4 5 4 |
D Y S 4 4 7 |
D Y S 4 3 7 |
D Y S 4 4 8 |
D Y S 4 4 9 |
D Y S 4 6 4 a |
D Y S 4 6 4 b |
D Y S 4 6 4 c |
D Y S 4 6 4 d |
D Y S 4 6 0 |
G A T A H 4 |
Y C A I I a |
Y C A I I b |
D Y S 4 5 6 |
D Y S 6 0 7 |
D Y S 5 7 6 |
D Y S 5 7 0 |
C D Y a |
C D Y b |
D Y S 4 4 2 |
D Y S 4 3 8 |
Hypothetical
MacLeod
Modal
Haplotype L-165/S68 Cluster Two |
13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 |
|
11 | 11 |
|
15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 18 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
John
or
Donald
MacLeod
Family Haplotype: approx 1770 |
13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
30101-Scotland to NC | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
30102 -Scotland to NC | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 15 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
Tuckahoe
Creek
/
Horses'
Creek
Family
(so
titled
in
"Sandhills
Streams
and
MacLeod
Genes
Five
Emigrant
Familys,
Alexander
C.
McLeod,
Clan
MacLeod
Magazine
April
2008
pages
495
-
506")
The Widowed Niell McLeod arrived in North Carolina earlier than the above family; he appears to have immigrated cr. 1777. His records are found in Cumberland County. Immigrating with him were four sons - Daniel (and his wife, Martha McKinnon), and Norman(no issue) who were the children of his first marriage and Alexander (died unmarried in the Revolutionary War) and John (had issue with Christina Clark) by his second. A daughter reportedly remained behind in Scotland having already married.
Niell and three of his children moved on into Moore County to live on Horses' Creek (Pee Dee River Tributary) while Daniel and his family remained in Cumberland.
Marker Number | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 |
ID
(FTDNA)
Modal line - Green shading indicates that it is shared between L165 and Clan MacLeod R1b Modals and different from R1b |
D Y S 3 9 3 |
D Y S 3 9 0 |
D Y S 1 9 / 3 9 4 |
D Y S 3 9 1 |
D Y S 3 8 5 a |
D Y S 3 8 5 b |
D Y S 4 2 6 |
D Y S 3 8 8 |
D Y S 4 3 9 |
D Y S 3 8 9 - 1 |
D Y S 3 9 2 |
D Y S 3 8 9 - 2 |
D Y S 4 5 8 |
D Y S 4 5 9 a |
D Y S 4 5 9 b |
D Y S 4 5 5 |
D Y S 4 5 4 |
D Y S 4 4 7 |
D Y S 4 3 7 |
D Y S 4 4 8 |
D Y S 4 4 9 |
D Y S 4 6 4 a |
D Y S 4 6 4 b |
D Y S 4 6 4 c |
D Y S 4 6 4 d |
D Y S 4 6 0 |
G A T A H 4 |
Y C A I I a |
Y C A I I b |
D Y S 4 5 6 |
D Y S 6 0 7 |
D Y S 5 7 6 |
D Y S 5 7 0 |
C D Y a |
C D Y b |
D Y S 4 4 2 |
D Y S 4 3 8 |
Hypothetical
MacLeod
Modal
Haplotype L-165/S68 Cluster Two |
13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 |
|
11 | 11 |
|
15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 18 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
Neill
McLeod
(
2
kits) Family Haplotype approx. 1700 |
13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
167729 Scotland to NC | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
38282 Scotland to NC | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 15 | 13 | 31 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
Since 2008, three other particpants have been found to share the mutation at marker 3 (DYS 19), markers 10 & 12 (DYS 389) and two of these new participants also share the mutation at marker 32 (DYS 576). It now appears possible that these families all share a more recent common ancestor to each other than to the rest of the ACMS R1b / L165 project members. The table below shows these new participants in comparison to the Sandhill Families.
Marker Number | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 |
ID
(FTDNA)
Modal line - Green shading indicates that it is shared between L165 and Clan MacLeod R1b Modals and different from R1b |
D Y S 3 9 3 |
D Y S 3 9 0 |
D Y S 1 9 / 3 9 4 |
D Y S 3 9 1 |
D Y S 3 8 5 a |
D Y S 3 8 5 b |
D Y S 4 2 6 |
D Y S 3 8 8 |
D Y S 4 3 9 |
D Y S 3 8 9 - 1 |
D Y S 3 9 2 |
D Y S 3 8 9 - 2 |
D Y S 4 5 8 |
D Y S 4 5 9 a |
D Y S 4 5 9 b |
D Y S 4 5 5 |
D Y S 4 5 4 |
D Y S 4 4 7 |
D Y S 4 3 7 |
D Y S 4 4 8 |
D Y S 4 4 9 |
D Y S 4 6 4 a |
D Y S 4 6 4 b |
D Y S 4 6 4 c |
D Y S 4 6 4 d |
D Y S 4 6 0 |
G A T A H 4 |
Y C A I I a |
Y C A I I b |
D Y S 4 5 6 |
D Y S 6 0 7 |
D Y S 5 7 6 |
D Y S 5 7 0 |
C D Y a |
C D Y b |
D Y S 4 4 2 |
D Y S 4 3 8 |
Hypothetical
MacLeod
Modal
Haplotype L-165/S68 Cluster Two |
13 | 25 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 29 | 16 | 9 |
|
11 | 11 |
|
15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 18 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
John
or
Donald
MacLeod
Family Haplotype: approx 1770 |
13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
Neill
McLeod
(
2
kits) Family Haplotype approx. 1700 |
13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
106635 ( MacLeod) | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 11 | 19 | 23 | 15 | 15 | 18 | 17 | 37 | 38 | 12 | 12 |
36589 John Archibald McLeod, b.1836 | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 32 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 10 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
150940 ( MacLeod) | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11 | 14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 33 | 14 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 11 | 10 | 19 | 23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37 | 37 | 12 | 12 |
The following table was created at generated by McGee YUtility using FTDNA Mutation Rates / 95% Probability / 30 year generations - According to the TMRCA table, a Common Ancestor for the group may have lived as recently as 480 years past.
FTDNA Configuration - DNA Results Comparison | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ID |
D Y S 3 9 3 |
D Y S 3 9 0 |
D Y S 1 9 |
D Y S 3 9 1 |
D Y S 3 8 5 |
D Y S 4 2 6 |
D Y S 3 8 8 |
D Y S 4 3 9 |
D Y S 3 8 9 i |
D Y S 3 9 2 |
D Y S 3 8 9 i i |
D Y S 4 5 8 |
D Y S 4 5 9 |
D Y S 4 5 5 |
D Y S 4 5 4 |
D Y S 4 4 7 |
D Y S 4 3 7 |
D Y S 4 4 8 |
D Y S 4 4 9 |
D Y S 4 6 4 |
D Y S 4 6 0 |
Y - G A T A - H 4 |
Y C A I I |
D Y S 4 5 6 |
D Y S 6 0 7 |
D Y S 5 7 6 |
D Y S 5 7 0 |
C D Y |
D Y S 4 4 2 |
D Y S 4 3 8 |
|||||
modal | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11-14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9-11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14-15-15-16 | 11 | 11 | 19-23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37-37 | 12 | 12 | |||||
30101/30102 | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11-14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9-11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 30 | 14-15-15-16 | 11 | 11 | 19-23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37-37 | 12 | 12 | |||||
Neil_b._ca._1770 | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11-14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9-11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14-15-15-16 | 11 | 11 | 19-23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37-37 | 12 | 12 | |||||
106635 | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11-14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9-11 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 14-15-15-16 | 11 | 11 | 19-23 | 16 | 15 | 18 | 17 | 37-38 | 12 | 12 | |||||
36589 | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11-14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9-10 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 32 | 14-15-15-16 | 11 | 11 | 19-23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37-37 | 12 | 12 | |||||
150940 | 13 | 25 | 15 | 11 | 11-14 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 13 | 30 | 16 | 9-10 | 11 | 11 | 26 | 15 | 19 | 33 | 14-15-15-16 | 11 | 11 | 19-23 | 16 | 15 | 19 | 17 | 37-37 | 12 | 12 | |||||
|
Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Years) | |||||||||||
ID | m o d a l |
3 0 1 0 1 / 3 0 1 0 2 |
N e i l b . c a . 1 7 7 0 |
1 0 6 6 3 5 |
3 6 5 8 9 |
1 5 0 9 4 0 |
|||||
modal | 109 | 390 | 240 | 480 | 480 | 480 | |||||
30101/30102 | 390 | 37 | 390 | 600 | 480 | 480 | |||||
Neil_b._ca._1770 | 240 | 390 | 37 | 480 | 480 | 480 | |||||
106635 | 480 | 600 | 480 | 37 | 720 | 720 | |||||
36589 | 480 | 480 | 480 | 720 | 37 | 390 | |||||
150940 | 480 | 480 | 480 | 720 | 390 | 37 | |||||
|
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-
Infinite
allele
mutation
model
is
used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0054 to 0.0054, from FTDNA derived rates - Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested - Probability is 95% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated - Average generaton: 30 years |