67 Marker Level TMRCA and Genetic Distance Tables

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Genetic Distance/TMRCA Tables - MacLeod Hypothetical Modal Haplotype (HMH) 67 Level of Testing

This page has been created as a companion page to the R-L165 Project at FTDNA.

DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE KITS WHO HAVE TESTED TO THE 111 LEVEL - TO SEE THOSE KITS GO HERE

DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE KITS HAVE TESTED ONLY TO THE 37 LEVEL - TO SEE THOSE KITS GO HERE.

FTDNA explanation of this level of testing Question #26

67-0 Very Tightly Related: A 67/67 match between two men who share a common surname (or variant) means they share a common male ancestor within the genealogical time frame. Their relatedness is extremely close. All confidence levels are well within the time frame that surnames were adopted in Western Europe with the common ancestor predicted, 50% of the time, in 3 generations or less and with a 90% probability within 5 generations. Very few people achieve this close level of a match.

67-1 or 2 Tightly Related: A 65/67 or 66/67 match between two men who share the same surname (or a variant) indicates a close relationship. It is most likely that they matched 36/37 or 37/37 on a previous Y-DNA test. Very few people achieve this close level of a match. All confidence levels are well within the time frame that surnames were adopted in Western Europe.

67-3 or 4 Related: A 63/67 or 64/67 match between two men who share the same surname (or a variant) means that they are likely to share a common ancestor within the genealogical time frame. The common ancestor is probably not extremely recent, but is likely within the range of most well-established surname lineages in Western Europe.It is most likely that they matched 24/25, 36/37 or 37/37 on previous Y-DNA tests and mismatches are within DYS458, DYS459, DYS449, DYS464, DYS576, DYS570, and CDY.

67 -5 or 6 Related: A 61/67 or 62/67 match between two men who share the same surname (or a variant) means that they may to share a common ancestor within the genealogical time frame. The common ancestor is probably not recent, but may still be within the range of most well-established surname lineages in Western Europe. It's most likely that they matched 24/25, 36/37 or 37/37 on previous Y-DNA tests. Mismatches are within DYS458, DYS459, DYS449, DYS464, DYS576, DYS570, and CDY.

67-7: A 60/67 match between two men who share the same surname (or a variant) means that they may share a common ancestor within the genealogical time frame. Because of the volatility within some of the markers this is about the same as being 11/12 and it's most likely that they matched 23/25 or 24/25 or 33-34/37 on previous Y-DNA tests. If they test additional individuals they will most likely find that their DNA falls in-between the persons who are 7 apart demonstrating relatedness within this family cluster or haplotype. If several or many generations have passed, it is likely that these two lines are related through distant family lines. The only way to confirm the relationship is to test additional family lines and to find where the mutations took place. By testing additional family members you can find the person in between them. This 'in betweener' is essential, and without him the possibility of a match exists, but cannot be confirmed.

67 - 8 or 9: A 58/67 or 59/67 match between two men who share the same surname (or a variant) means it is possible but unlikely that they share a common ancestor within the genealogical time frame. If you test additional individuals you may find the person whose DNA results falls in-between the persons that are 8 or 9 apart demonstrating relatedness within this family cluster or haplotype. It is most likely that they did not match 24-25/25 or 35-37/37 in previous Y-DNA tests. If several or many generations have passed, it is possible that they are related through other family members. The only way to confirm or deny the relationship is to test additional family lines and find where the mutation took place. By testing additional family members, you may find the person in between. This 'in betweener' is essential. Without him only the distant possibility of a match exists.

67 - 10 or 11: Not Related A 56/67 or 57/67 match between two people means they are not related within the genealogical time frame. The odds greatly favor that the two men have not shared a common male ancestor within thousands of years. The two men are totally unrelated within the genealogical time frame on their direct paternal line. Their shared ancestry is deeply anthropological and dates to the common African heritage of the human race.

Haplotypes, Genetic Distances and TMRCA's are generated by McGee YUtility using FTDNA Mutation Rates / 95% Probability / 30 year generations

Genetic Distance
ID m
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 1
5
0
5
8
7
 4
0
1
9
0
 6
3
3
2
0
 9
6
5
9
7
 N
3
9
5
1
4
 1
4
5
0
6
1
 8
9
2
1
6
 2
7
8
5
9
 9
9
5
0
8
 3
8
2
4
7
 8
6
2
4
0
 3
0
0
9
7
 5
0
5
1
6
 2
0
1
1
5
0
 2
4
7
1
2
 3
7
3
9
2
 1
8
0
0
5
 9
3
7
9
9
 2
7
9
5
0
 9
9
0
2
7
 1
0
6
6
3
5
 6
2
3
1
1
 6
3
7
0
2
 1
6
3
5
2
4
 1
5
0
9
4
0
modal 111 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 6 7 7
150587 R-L165+ 2 67 4 3 2 4 4 4 5 5 5 3 5 5 3 6 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 6 7 7
40190 2 4 67 4 2 4 4 4 3 4 5 5 5 3 4 5 7 4 4 6 6 6 6 8 6 8
63320 2 3 4 67 3 4 4 4 5 5 4 4 4 5 4 6 6 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 8 7
96597 2 2 2 3 67 4 4 4 3 4 5 3 5 5 2 6 7 5 5 5 6 7 6 6 5 6
N39514 2 4 4 4 4 67 2 4 3 5 5 3 5 3 5 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 6 9 9
145061 2 4 4 4 4 2 67 3 3 5 5 3 5 3 5 6 7 7 7 7 6 7 6 6 9 9
89216 2 4 4 4 4 4 3 67 5 5 4 4 5 5 5 6 7 6 6 7 5 7 5 8 8 7
27859 R-L165+ 3 5 3 5 3 3 3 5 67 5 6 4 6 4 5 7 8 6 6 8 7 8 7 7 8 9
99508 3 5 4 5 4 5 5 5 5 67 6 6 6 6 4 7 8 7 5 8 6 8 7 8 7 6
38247 3 5 5 4 5 5 5 4 6 6 67 4 4 6 6 6 5 6 6 8 6 6 6 7 8 7
86240 3 3 5 4 3 3 3 4 4 6 4 67 6 4 4 7 8 6 6 6 8 8 8 5 6 7
30097 3 5 5 4 5 5 5 5 6 6 4 6 67 6 6 5 6 8 8 8 6 6 6 7 10 8
50516 3 5 3 5 5 3 3 5 4 6 6 4 6 67 6 6 8 5 7 7 8 7 8 7 9 10
201150 3 3 4 4 2 5 5 5 5 4 6 4 6 6 67 7 8 7 7 6 6 6 7 7 7 4
24712 R-L165+ 4 6 5 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 6 7 5 6 7 67 7 7 7 7 9 7 9 9 9 11
37392 5 7 7 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 5 8 6 8 8 7 67 10 10 10 8 8 8 9 12 10
18005 5 7 4 7 5 7 7 6 6 7 6 6 8 5 7 7 10 67 2 8 9 6 9 11 4 10
93799 5 7 4 7 5 7 7 6 6 5 6 6 8 7 7 7 10 2 67 8 9 6 9 11 4 10
27950 5 5 6 6 5 7 7 7 8 8 8 6 8 7 6 7 10 8 8 67 10 8 10 9 8 10
99027 R-L165+ 5 7 6 6 6 7 6 5 7 6 6 8 6 8 6 9 8 9 9 10 67 8 3 9 11 8
106635 5 7 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 6 8 6 7 6 7 8 6 6 8 8 67 8 9 8 8
62311 5 7 6 6 6 7 6 5 7 7 6 8 6 8 7 9 8 9 9 10 3 8 67 9 11 9
63702 6 6 8 6 6 6 6 8 7 8 7 5 7 7 7 9 9 11 11 9 9 9 9 67 10 8
163524 R-L165+ 7 7 6 8 5 9 9 8 8 7 8 6 10 9 7 9 12 4 4 8 11 8 11 10 67 8
150940 7 7 8 7 6 9 9 7 9 6 7 7 8 10 4 11 10 10 10 10 8 8 9 8 8 67
Related Probably Related Possibly Related
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 67 Markers
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested

Haplotypes, Genetic Distances and TMRCA's are generated by McGee YUtility using FTDNA Mutation Rates / 95% Probability / 30 year generations

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Years)
ID m
o
d
a
l
 1
5
0
5
8
7
 4
0
1
9
0
 6
3
3
2
0
 9
6
5
9
7
 N
3
9
5
1
4
 1
4
5
0
6
1
 8
9
2
1
6
 2
7
8
5
9
 9
9
5
0
8
 3
8
2
4
7
 8
6
2
4
0
 3
0
0
9
7
 5
0
5
1
6
 2
0
1
1
5
0
 2
4
7
1
2
 3
7
3
9
2
 1
8
0
0
5
 9
3
7
9
9
 2
7
9
5
0
 9
9
0
2
7
 1
0
6
6
3
5
 6
2
3
1
1
 6
3
7
0
2
 1
6
3
5
2
4
 1
5
0
9
4
0
modal 111 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 450 450 450 450 450 450 450 510 600 600 600 600 600 600 600 690 780 780
150587 R-L165+ 360 67 510 450 360 510 510 510 600 600 600 450 600 600 450 690 780 780 780 600 780 780 780 690 780 780
40190 360 510 67 510 360 510 510 510 450 510 600 600 600 450 510 600 780 510 510 690 690 690 690 840 690 840
63320 360 450 510 67 450 510 510 510 600 600 510 510 510 600 510 690 690 780 780 690 690 690 690 690 840 780
96597 360 360 360 450 67 510 510 510 450 510 600 450 600 600 360 690 780 600 600 600 690 780 690 690 600 690
N39514 360 510 510 510 510 67 360 510 450 600 600 450 600 450 600 690 780 780 780 780 780 780 780 690 930 930
145061 360 510 510 510 510 360 67 450 450 600 600 450 600 450 600 690 780 780 780 780 690 780 690 690 930 930
89216 360 510 510 510 510 510 450 67 600 600 510 510 600 600 600 690 780 690 690 780 600 780 600 840 840 780
27859 R-L165+ 450 600 450 600 450 450 450 600 67 600 690 510 690 510 600 780 840 690 690 840 780 840 780 780 840 930
99508 450 600 510 600 510 600 600 600 600 67 690 690 690 690 510 780 840 780 600 840 690 840 780 840 780 690
38247 450 600 600 510 600 600 600 510 690 690 67 510 510 690 690 690 600 690 690 840 690 690 690 780 840 780
86240 450 450 600 510 450 450 450 510 510 690 510 67 690 510 510 780 840 690 690 690 840 840 840 600 690 780
30097 450 600 600 510 600 600 600 600 690 690 510 690 67 690 690 600 690 840 840 840 690 690 690 780 1020 840
50516 450 600 450 600 600 450 450 600 510 690 690 510 690 67 690 690 840 600 780 780 840 780 840 780 930 1020
201150 450 450 510 510 360 600 600 600 600 510 690 510 690 690 67 780 840 780 780 690 690 690 780 780 780 510
24712 R-L165+ 510 690 600 690 690 690 690 690 780 780 690 780 600 690 780 67 780 780 780 780 930 780 930 930 930 1110
37392 600 780 780 690 780 780 780 780 840 840 600 840 690 840 840 780 67 1020 1020 1020 840 840 840 930 1170 1020
18005 600 780 510 780 600 780 780 690 690 780 690 690 840 600 780 780 1020 67 360 840 930 690 930 1110 510 1020
93799 600 780 510 780 600 780 780 690 690 600 690 690 840 780 780 780 1020 360 67 840 930 690 930 1110 510 1020
27950 600 600 690 690 600 780 780 780 840 840 840 690 840 780 690 780 1020 840 840 67 1020 840 1020 930 840 1020
99027 R-L165+ 600 780 690 690 690 780 690 600 780 690 690 840 690 840 690 930 840 930 930 1020 67 840 450 930 1110 840
106635 600 780 690 690 780 780 780 780 840 840 690 840 690 780 690 780 840 690 690 840 840 67 840 930 840 840
62311 600 780 690 690 690 780 690 600 780 780 690 840 690 840 780 930 840 930 930 1020 450 840 67 930 1110 930
63702 690 690 840 690 690 690 690 840 780 840 780 600 780 780 780 930 930 1110 1110 930 930 930 930 67 1020 840
163524 R-L165+ 780 780 690 840 600 930 930 840 840 780 840 690 1020 930 780 930 1170 510 510 840 1110 840 1110 1020 67 840
150940 780 780 840 780 690 930 930 780 930 690 780 780 840 1020 510 1110 1020 1020 1020 1020 840 840 930 840 840 67
0-270 Years 300-570 Years 600-870 Years 900-1170 Years
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0041 to 0.0041, from FTDNA derived rates
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested
- Probability is 95% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated
- Average generaton: 30 years

Haplotypes, Genetic Distances and TMRCA's are generated by McGee YUtility using FTDNA Mutation Rates / 95% Probability / 30 year generations

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Generations)
ID m
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d
a
l
 1
5
0
5
8
7
 4
0
1
9
0
 6
3
3
2
0
 9
6
5
9
7
 N
3
9
5
1
4
 1
4
5
0
6
1
 8
9
2
1
6
 2
7
8
5
9
 9
9
5
0
8
 3
8
2
4
7
 8
6
2
4
0
 3
0
0
9
7
 5
0
5
1
6
 2
0
1
1
5
0
 2
4
7
1
2
 3
7
3
9
2
 1
8
0
0
5
 9
3
7
9
9
 2
7
9
5
0
 9
9
0
2
7
 1
0
6
6
3
5
 6
2
3
1
1
 6
3
7
0
2
 1
6
3
5
2
4
 1
5
0
9
4
0
modal 111 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 17 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 23 26 26
150587 R-L165+ 12 67 17 15 12 17 17 17 20 20 20 15 20 20 15 23 26 26 26 20 26 26 26 23 26 26
40190 12 17 67 17 12 17 17 17 15 17 20 20 20 15 17 20 26 17 17 23 23 23 23 28 23 28
63320 12 15 17 67 15 17 17 17 20 20 17 17 17 20 17 23 23 26 26 23 23 23 23 23 28 26
96597 12 12 12 15 67 17 17 17 15 17 20 15 20 20 12 23 26 20 20 20 23 26 23 23 20 23
N39514 12 17 17 17 17 67 12 17 15 20 20 15 20 15 20 23 26 26 26 26 26 26 26 23 31 31
145061 12 17 17 17 17 12 67 15 15 20 20 15 20 15 20 23 26 26 26 26 23 26 23 23 31 31
89216 12 17 17 17 17 17 15 67 20 20 17 17 20 20 20 23 26 23 23 26 20 26 20 28 28 26
27859 R-L165+ 15 20 15 20 15 15 15 20 67 20 23 17 23 17 20 26 28 23 23 28 26 28 26 26 28 31
99508 15 20 17 20 17 20 20 20 20 67 23 23 23 23 17 26 28 26 20 28 23 28 26 28 26 23
38247 15 20 20 17 20 20 20 17 23 23 67 17 17 23 23 23 20 23 23 28 23 23 23 26 28 26
86240 15 15 20 17 15 15 15 17 17 23 17 67 23 17 17 26 28 23 23 23 28 28 28 20 23 26
30097 15 20 20 17 20 20 20 20 23 23 17 23 67 23 23 20 23 28 28 28 23 23 23 26 34 28
50516 15 20 15 20 20 15 15 20 17 23 23 17 23 67 23 23 28 20 26 26 28 26 28 26 31 34
201150 15 15 17 17 12 20 20 20 20 17 23 17 23 23 67 26 28 26 26 23 23 23 26 26 26 17
24712 R-L165+ 17 23 20 23 23 23 23 23 26 26 23 26 20 23 26 67 26 26 26 26 31 26 31 31 31 37
37392 20 26 26 23 26 26 26 26 28 28 20 28 23 28 28 26 67 34 34 34 28 28 28 31 39 34
18005 20 26 17 26 20 26 26 23 23 26 23 23 28 20 26 26 34 67 12 28 31 23 31 37 17 34
93799 20 26 17 26 20 26 26 23 23 20 23 23 28 26 26 26 34 12 67 28 31 23 31 37 17 34
27950 20 20 23 23 20 26 26 26 28 28 28 23 28 26 23 26 34 28 28 67 34 28 34 31 28 34
99027 R-L165+ 20 26 23 23 23 26 23 20 26 23 23 28 23 28 23 31 28 31 31 34 67 28 15 31 37 28
106635 20 26 23 23 26 26 26 26 28 28 23 28 23 26 23 26 28 23 23 28 28 67 28 31 28 28
62311 20 26 23 23 23 26 23 20 26 26 23 28 23 28 26 31 28 31 31 34 15 28 67 31 37 31
63702 23 23 28 23 23 23 23 28 26 28 26 20 26 26 26 31 31 37 37 31 31 31 31 67 34 28
163524 R-L165+ 26 26 23 28 20 31 31 28 28 26 28 23 34 31 26 31 39 17 17 28 37 28 37 34 67 28
150940 26 26 28 26 23 31 31 26 31 23 26 26 28 34 17 37 34 34 34 34 28 28 31 28 28 67
0-9 Generations 10-19 Generations 20-29 Generations 30-39 Generations
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0041 to 0.0041, from FTDNA derived rates
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested
- Probability is 95% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated

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