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The Frederick Family Tree


Lorennzo William Gilman was born Nov 1849 in NY. He died (UNKNOWN). Lorennzo married Catherine Emma Cooper on 26 Apr 1876 in Sauk Center, Stearns County, MN, USA.

Catherine Emma Cooper [Parents] 1 was born 16 Dec 1851 in Tunkhanock, Wyoming Co., PA. She died 12 Apr 1945 in Sauk Centre, Stearns, MN and was buried (UNKNOWN) in Greenwood Cemetery Sauk Centre, MN, USA. Catherine married Lorennzo William Gilman on 26 Apr 1876 in Sauk Center, Stearns County, MN, USA.

SOURCE: Arlene Gable from notes kept by Leta and Hattie Gilman

Census Notes from Arlene
1880 US Sauk Centre p 14 125/128 Gilman Katie, 26, Hattie, 4 Leater 1
1885 MN   Sauk Centre Village p 37 294 Lorenzo Gilman, 34, b. NY; Kate 34, B. Penn; Hattie 8, Lizzie 4
According to family notes moved to Deadwood SD in 1888. Returned to Sauk Centre 1898
1900 US Sauk Centre 362/322 Gilman LW in Nov 1849, 50, married 24 years agent
Kate E B. Dec 1849, 50, NY
Harriet dau. b Nov 1876 23 MN Schoolteacher
Leta V  dau b May 1880 20, MN
General notes:
The Gilman family lived at 415 Maple Street in a wonderful frame house. It is possible it was built for Kate by her father Josiah who was a carpenter. The parlors were separated by sliding doors; there was both a front and back staircase which led to the second floor; the woodwork on the second floor was hand grained to look like oak; a stained glass window decorated the front stairwell; a Hugh porch surrounded the front and side of the house.

Note:
Arlene Gable, a descendant, wrote from reliable sources a history of the Josiah and Harriet (Frederick) Cooper Family depicting the lives of many of the family members and relationships.


Charles Henry Cooper [Parents] 1 was born 24 Sep 1857 in Eagle Creek Twp, Scott, MN. He died 28 Jan 1933 in Sauk Centre, Stearns, MN and was buried (UNKNOWN) in Greenwood Cemetery Sauk Centre, MN, USA. Charles married Aretta Higgison on 14 May 1883 in Fergus Falls, Ottertail Co, MN.

SOURCE: Arlene Gable, from notes made by Leta and Harriet Gilman

Census:
1885 Ashley Twp p8 60, Charley Cooper, 27, Retta Cooper, 21, B. Mi, Cara May Cooper 1
1895 MN   Stearns, Ashley 20 June 1885 Cooper Charles 37, farmer, Arrettie 32, Carrie 11, Fred 9,                           Jennie, 7, Bernice 4
1890 US Ashley: Cooper Charles H Sep 1857, 42, farmer, literate, owns farm free of mortgage
Aretta, Sept 1864, 35, B. Mi
Carrie M, May 1884, 16
Fred R Feb 1886, 14
Edna J    Oct 1889, 10
Berneth E Oct 1892, 7
Charles R July 1898, 1

Notes from Arlene:
When he died(intestate) in 1933 he owned land in Stearns Co Ashley, Sec 7 &18; also a lot/house in Sauk Centre, lots in Greenwood cem, and a share of Josiah Coopers estate in Pope Co. which adjoined his own land in Stearns. Sauk Centre Herald clippings state the couple moved to his farm after their marriage and remained there until Aretta's failing health forced them to move into Sauk Centre.

Note:
Arlene Gable, a descendant, wrote from reliable sources a history of the Josiah and Harriet (Frederick) Cooper Family depicting the lives of many of the family members and relationships.

Aretta Higgison was born Sep 1864 in MI. She died 5 Jul 1930 in Stearns Co, Minnesota, USA. Aretta married Charles Henry Cooper on 14 May 1883 in Fergus Falls, Ottertail Co, MN.


Jacob Fredrick Cooper [Parents] 1 was born 5 May 1860 in Eagle Creek Twp, Scott, MN. He died 14 Oct 1948 in Sauk Centre, Stearns, MN and was buried 16 Oct 1948 in Greenwood Cemetery Sauk Centre, MN, USA. Jacob married Mamie H Shaw on 2 Sep 1885 in Excelsior, Hennnepin Co, MN.

SOURCE: Arlene Gable
Arlene says "He was always called J Fred. He was known to Arlene as "Big Uncle Fred"

Census:
1895 MN: City of Sauk Centre: 287/ Cooper Fred J 35, Mamie H 34, Glenn L 8 Winnifred 7, Fay S 2/12
1900 US Sauk Centre: 336/356 Cooper JF b May 1860 40 , Mamie, Glen l, Winnifred, Fay S, Russell

Note:
Arlene Gable, a descendant, wrote from reliable sources a history of the Josiah and Harriet (Frederick) Cooper Family depicting the lives of many of the family members and relationships.

Mamie H Shaw died 28 Oct 1948 in Stearns Co, Minnesota, USA. She married Jacob Fredrick Cooper on 2 Sep 1885 in Excelsior, Hennnepin Co, MN.


Frank Stanton Parker was born 2 Mar 1870 in Belmont, IA. He died 15 Sep 1955 in Corvallis OR. Frank married Rosa Zaddie Cooper on 29 Jun 1904 in Sauk Center, Stearns County, MN, USA.

SOURCE: Arlene Gable [email protected]
"I have a lengthy newspaper clipping, Sauk Centre Herald, 19 Sep 1955: Last Rites Held Here for Frank S Parker...spent almost a year at the home of his nephew and neice, Mr and Mrs Fenton Parker at Monroe OR"

Rosa Zaddie Cooper [Parents] 1 was born 4 Mar 1872 in Ashley, Stearns Co. MN. She died 10 Feb 1952 in Orlando, Orange Co, FL and was buried 17 Feb 1952 in Greenwood Cemetery Sauk Centre, MN, USA. Rosa married Frank Stanton Parker on 29 Jun 1904 in Sauk Center, Stearns County, MN, USA.

SOURCE: Arlene Gable -  My great aunt Rose (Cooper) Parker wrote out east to get information about the family. I have the letter she wrote to my mother years later about her findings. She did not say where she got the info. When I was going through Predmorešs notes at the OCGS Library in Goshen I came across her (Roses') name. It fell into place--this was where she had written. Predmore doesn'tšt reference much of her notes, so itšs hard to tell where she got all her info about the Minnesota Fredericks. I donšt think it all came from Rose, but I really donšt know. If it was Rose, she did not give up  much info about the Coopers.
No Children
Rose attended University of Minnesota and became a school Teacher, Teaching at Ashley and in Sauk Centre.

Note:
Arlene Gable, a descendant, wrote from reliable sources a history of the Josiah and Harriet (Frederick) Cooper Family depicting the lives of many of the family members and relationships.


Claudius Smith [Parents] 1 was born 1736 in Brookhaven, Suffolk Co, NY, USA. He died 2 22 Jan 1779 in Goshen, Orange Co, NY, USA. Claudius married Possibly Harriet Hulse about 1755.

Other marriages:
Rumsey, Abigail

SOURCE:  Claudius Smith, fact and fiction
An overview by: Lil Heselton

SOURCE:  Claudius Smith sources relating to the life and times of the infamous character.
As compiled by: Lil Heselton

Claudius Smith den

Possibly Harriet Hulse 1 died (UNKNOWN). She married Claudius Smith about 1755.

(Lil's note)Harriet Hulse is suggested by Mable Edwards and later Jean Rumsey as a possible first wife of Samuel Smith. This is a supposition apparently based on a Hulse biography which I have not seen nor can I find it.

They had the following children:

  M i Samuel Smith was born about 1755 and died 21 Jul 1836.
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William Smith was born about 1756. He died after 1798 in Goshen, Orange Co NY USA.

William was shot in the hills around Monroe by a Member of one of the Committee of Public Safety posses shortly before his father was hung. I have no record of a wife or children but assume that there could well have been a family if he were indeed the eldest.

According to a newspaper account found in both the Eager and Ruttenber and Clark Histories as taken from the Fishkill Packet, William was the eldest of Claudius' sons.
SOURCE: Eager's History of Orange County, p 563:
'...all accounts agree that William, the oldest, was shot in the mountains in the fall of 1778, by whig scouts sent in pursuit of the gang. The story of his death as we have gathered is this: He was shot as before stated in Schunemunk Mountain, but made his escape and came down from the mountain and his himself in the barn of a Mr Horton, who lived on what is called the Island Lot. While there a small lad, the son of Mr Horton, came in and Smith told him to go and tell his father to come there, he wanted to see him; but instantly recollecting that that would ensure his capture, withdrew the request,  left the barn, and went down into a swamp and crawled into a hollow log, where his pursuers found him. He was then taken before a Justice, and while there or on the way to Goshen Jail, died of exhaustion from the wound received on the previous day.

SOURCE: South of the Mountains, Vol 35, Issue 4 October 1991, p.3 "Claudius Smith, Loyalist" by Elizabeth S. Smith
All the information I have found written in contemporary accounts regarding William Smith came from the  Rivington Royal Gazette of April 1779: "The oldest son of Claudius, not named was shot last fall at Smith's Clove in company with several villains, by one of out scouting parties sent out in search of them"...
...according to the Rivington Royal Gazette, Willaim was shot in the fall of 1778. Governor Clinton did not offer a reward for his capture ; so I am confident that William was dead before Oct 31, 1778. Perhaps the death of William occurred before October 6, 1778. There has to be an explanation for the threat against the life of Ebeneezer Woodhull and the death of Nathanial Strong. Could it be that Captain Woodhull and Major Strong were the officers in the scouting party responsible for the death of William?
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James Smith 1 was born about 1757. He died 8 Jun 1779 in Goshen, Orange Co NY USA.

WARNING: James Smith is  popularly considered to have been married to a Jane Forguson/Ferguson. She appears in the Nozell, Boyle, etc files on the internet and is also listed in other papers. However, recently I have received correspondence from a Robert A Edwards who is descended from James Smith and Ann Forguson. He has no firm parents for his James but thinks the parents were a John Smith and Abigail Wilson. He has eight children for the couple (not the two I had listed and considered possible given his young age at death) and three marriages for James ( we know this James could not have had three marriages). All of this seems to suggest to me that it was NOT our James who was married to Ann Forguson. I have deleted the marriage
However there are some things about James I can document.
 
SOURCE: Smith Family History 1648-1779 author unknown from Terry Hurd, [email protected]:
The raiding by the guerrilla band still kept on after the death of Claudius.  In Gov. Clinton's accounts dated Feb. 26, 1779 is the sum of 240 pounds paid to Abner Thorpe for the capture of James Smith, son of Claudius.  He must have been captured some little time before that for on Feb. 25th the Sheriff of Orange Co., sent to the governor an account of the inquest held on the killing of John Clark.  Eager gives an account of this, but represents it as a common murder.  In view of this it is interesting to quote from the official inquest (Vol.4 No.2112).  They came to the house of said Clark, knocked and were admitted.  One pulled out a watch and said, "it is about 12 o'clock and by one o'clock Clark you shall be a dead man."  Clark inquired why they should take his life; they answered, "you have killed two Tories and wounded a third." and mentioned the name of the one he had wounded.  Clark replied "I have never killed a man in my life, but I believe I did wound the man you mention"---They then wrote a paper, "A Warning to the Rebels." you are hereby forbid at your peril to hand no more Friends to Government as you did Claudius Smith.  You are warned likewise to use James Smith, James Hawelling and William Colewell and ease them of their irons for we are determined to hand six for one, for the blood of the Innocent cries aloud for vengeance, your noted friend. Capt. Williams and his crew of robbers and murderers we have got in our Provo (jail) and the blood of Claudius shall be repaid; there is particular companies of us that belong to Col. Butler's army.  Indians as well as white men, and particularly numbers from New York that is resolved to be revenged on you for your cruelty and murders.  We are to remind you that you are the beginners and aggressors for by your cruel oppressions and bloody actions drive us to it-----dated New York February 1779.
 Again we find evidence that the band considered themselves not robbers but fighters for the king's causes.  In "The New York Packet" published at Fishkill June 17, 1779 we find the following account of the death of James, son of Claudius. "On Tuesday the 8th inst. James Huelling, James Smith, son of the noted Claudius Smith, James McCormick and David Keith were executed at Goshen for the robberies and murders they had committed.  They appeared to be extremely stupid and impenitent.  David Keith belonged to Burgoyne's troops, and left them on their way to Virginia.  He said that he left his troops by the direction of his officer with a design to go to New York and that said officer gave him an order on Lord Radnor for seven guineas.  He likewise said that the company of robbers with whom he joined were intended as pilots to conduct their friends to New York and that the British officers at said place approved and countenanced them in distressing the Rebels without the British lines.  The last line is quite significant.
 
SOURCE: History of Orange County New York< Ruttenber & Clark (Heart of the Lakes Pub Co: Interlaken NY, 1980. Vol 1 (LDS fiche # 6100669-70)
p 69 James Smith appears as a "person refusing to sign" on the list of the "Committee of Public Safety and Observation" for Cornwall.
 
SOURCE: Legal Executions in New York State 1639-1963 by Daniel Allen Hearne
"James Smith (son of Claudius mentioned above) was convicted of burglary and treason. Smith along with James Flueling, Daniel Keith, and James McCormick, were part of the gang led by Claudius and were executed in Goshen on June 8, 1779"
 
SOURCE: Documents Relating to the Revolutionary History of New Jersey; Vol 3, page 81
Newark, Feb 13, 1779
Chatham, Feb 16, Last week were surprized and taken prisoners at Woodbridge, by a party of the enemy from Staten Island, Captain Nathanial Randolf, Mr Charles Jackson, and a Sergeant and 10 privates. The last mentioned 11 were exchanged on Sunday last. On Saturday night the 6th instant, were taken at the house of Nathan Miller in Smith's Clove, James Smith (son of Claudius Smith, a notorious offender who was executed at Goshen on the 22d ult.) and one Benson of Long Island. These villains, in conjunction with Caudius, had committed many daring robberies. They are now safely lodged in jail.
 
SOURCE: New York Military in the Revolution: Ancestry.com electronic.
Accounts of Governor Clinton:Feb 26, 1779
26th To Cash pr Abner Thorp for apprehending and securing the body of Jas. Smith son of Claudius Smith agreable to my Proclamation founded on concurrent Resolutions of Senate and Assembly as pr Rect 240:0:0
 
SOURCE: Public Papers of George Clinton, No 2112, p 587. Goshen Febr. 24th 1779
Dear S'r, Inclosed I Send you Excellency a True Acct. of the proceadings Realative to the Murder of John Clark, If Consistent I hope your Excellency will Order the Court Immediately to Set on James Smith and James Fluwelling, as I am a Fraid when the weather Gets warm and Leaves Out, there will be many Murders Committed Uppon some of Our principal peopal. Iam your Excellency Moste Obediant and Humble S'r. Isaac Nicoll To His Excellency the Governor
(He proceeds to outline the murder supposedly committed by Richard Smith -It seems to me that Richard was already in Nova Scotia- at any rate the following note was given to Miss Clark -
 "A Warning to the Rebels:
You are hereby forbid at your peril to hang no more Friends to Government as you did Claudius Smith. You are warned likewise to use James Smith, James Flaweling & Wm. Cole well and ease them of their Irons, for we are determined to hang six for one, for the Blood of the innocent cries aloud for vengeance;....DAted NY Feb'y 1779.
 
SOURCE: South of the Mountains, Vol 35, Issue 4 October 1991, p.8 "Claudius Smith, Loyalist" by Elizabeth S. Smith
...James Smith, James Flewelling, Jonas Rumsey, James McCormick, Daniel Keith, members of Smith's bands were executed in Goshen on June 8 1779, according to the Isaac Nicoll papers in Washington's Headquarters, State Museum, Newburgh.(Adrian C Leiby, The Revolutionary War in Hobensack Valley (New Brunswick, NJ: Rutgers University Press, 1962, p 196) On Feb 6 1779 James Smith, and one "Benson of Long Island" were captured at the home of Nathan Miller of Smith's Clove. The account further states these villains, in conjunction with Claudius, had committed many robberies(New Jersey Archives, Documents Relating to the Revolutionary History of the State of New Jersey: Extracts from American Newspapers relating to New Jersey, Vol3-1779 Trenton, 1906, p 81)...On Feb 26, 1779, Abner Thorp was paid 240 pounds for Apprehending and securing the body of James Smith

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Richard Smith 1 was born about 1760 in Monroe, Orange Co, NY, USA. He died (UNKNOWN) in Nova Scotia, Canada.

SOURCE: Hurd and Bush Biographies:
The raiding by the guerrilla band still kept on after the death of Claudius.  In Gov. Clinton's accounts dated Feb. 26, 1779 is the sum of 240 pounds paid to Abner Thorpe for the capture of James Smith, son of Claudius.  He must have been captured some little time before that for on Feb. 25th the Sheriff of Orange Co., sent to the governor an account of the inquest held on the killing of John Clark.  Eager gives an account of this, but represents it as a common murder.  In view of this it is interesting to quote from the official inquest (Vol.4 No.2112).  They came to the house of said Clark, knocked and were admitted.  One pulled out a watch and said, "it is about 12 o'clock and by one o'clock Clark you shall be a dead man."  Clark inquired why they should take his life; they answered, "you have killed two Tories and wounded a third." and mentioned the name of the one he had wounded.  Clark replied "I have never killed a man in my life, but I believe I did wound the man you mention"---They then wrote a paper, "A Warning to the Rebels." you are hereby forbid at your peril to hand no more Friends to Government as you did Claudius Smith.  You are warned likewise to use James Smith, James Hawelling and William Colewell and ease them of their irons for we are determined to hand six for one, for the blood of the Innocent cries aloud for vengeance, your noted friend. Capt. Williams and his crew of robbers and murderers we have got in our Provo (jail) and the blood of Claudius shall be repaid; there is particular companies of us that belong to Col. Butler's army.  Indians as well as white men, and particularly numbers from New York that is resolved to be revenged on you for your cruelty and murders.  We are to remind you that you are the beginners and aggressors for by your cruel oppressions and bloody actions drive us to it-----dated New York February 1779.
 This group was led by Richard another son of Claudius, and it is represented that Richard shot Clark.  It is very evident from the above that Clark's shooting was not a common murder but was in revenge for the wounding or killing of a Tory companion, and also that the band considered themselves as a company in Col. Butler's army and not merely marauders as history pictures them.
 Again we find evidence that the band considered themselves not robbers but fighters for the king's causes.  In "The New York Packet" published at Fishkill June 17, 1779 we find the following account of the death of James, son of Claudius. "On Tuesday the 8th inst. James Huelling, James Smith, son of the noted Claudius Smith, James McCormick and David Keith were executed at Goshen for the robberies and murders they had committed.  They appeared to be extremely stupid and impenitent.  David Keith belonged to Burgoyne's troops, and left them on their way to Virginia.  He said that he left his troops by the direction of his officer with a design to go to New York and that said officer gave him an order on Lord Radnor for seven guineas.  He likewise said that the company of robbers with whom he joined were intended as pilots to conduct their friends to New York and that the British officers at said place approved and countenanced them in distressing the Rebels without the British lines.  The last line is quite significant.
 
 (It is believed that William was shot in one of the expeditions and Richard escaped to Canada to live under the rule of the King. Richard escaped to Nova Scotia sometime after 1780. However I have been unable to locate him there in any of the Loyalist files. However one of the articles below seems to indicate this as well. I should note that I do question the sources of this particular story LH)
 
SOURCE:George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress
 
George Washington to George Clinton, August 10, 1781
The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745-1799. John C. Fitzpatrick, Editor.--vol. 22
 Head Quarters, Dobbs's ferry, August 10, 1781.
Dear Sir: An anxiety for your Excellency's safety induces me to transmit a report I lately received from New York, though it may not in really have a sufficient foundation, still caution on the subject may not be improper
I am informed that George Harden, James Kilty, one Brice of Dutchess County and a fourth person whose name is not noted, are promised a very considerable reward if they will seize your person and conduct you to New York. The places to which these fellows resort, (together with Richard Smith (son of Claudius Smith) and Isaac Sissio, a Molatto, who are both traversing the Country are at Patrick McDonalds above the High Lands, Galloway's son in law to Austin Smith, at Fletcher Matthews's and his fathers, at Coleman's Uncle to Richard Smith; and at the Rumneys one or both whom are brothers by Law to Claudius Smith
Your Excellency will judge of the propriety of having those places watched, as also John Heffering at Murders Creek who it is said serves as a pilot to convey people from McDonalds through the Mountains below Sovereigns Tavern (73)on their way to New York. With wishes for your personal Safety I am etc (74)
Note  73: Suffern's Tavern.]
Note 74: In the writing of William Stephens Smith. From the original in Washington's Headquarters and Museum, Newburgh, NY]
 
SOURCE:The George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress
 
George Washington, June 6, 1779, General Orders
The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745-1799. John C. Fitzpatrick, Editor.--vol. 15
 Head Quarters, Slott's, (71) Sunday, June 6, 1779.
Note 71: Stephen Slows (Slot). He was a captain in the Orange County militia. His place was about 6 miles south of Galloway's on the fork of the Clove road which led to Suffern's.]
Parole Philadelphia. Countersigns Peeks Kill, Poland.
The Pennsylvania division is to take post at June's or in the Vicinity according to the situation of ground &c. and send a light party of three or four hundred men into the passage of the mountain, at the cross roads, (72) where Colo. Malcom is, there to remain 'till further orders.
Note 72: The Haverstraw road entered the Clove from the east and joined the Clove road at June's.]
The Virginia division to move to Smith's tavern. (73) Baron De Kalb's division (except the two companies of Light Infantry ordered therefrom, which are to remain at Suffren's) to move on by way of Slott's and Galloway's and join the other troops. The whole to move at the rising of the moon.
Note 73:Smith's Tavern, in Smith's Clove, named from the "Horseblock" Smiths, notorious Tories, of whom Austin Smith, Claudius Smith, and Richard, son of Claudius, were the principal ones at this period.]
 
SOURCE: Public Papers of George Clinton, p634, Paper No. 993 undated.
...Richard Smith (Son of Cladius) James Kilty & Isaac Sickes or Siscs (mulatto) makes their stage above the highlands at ye following places Viz Patrick McDonel one Galloway, two Ramsey brothers by law to Cladius Smith Old Matthew & son Fletcher & one Coleman are concerned in give'g intelligence & guiding People thro the mountains to N. York...(This is similar to another dispatch ( above) from George Washington to Gov Clinton  dated Aug 10, 1781.)
 
SOURCE:Treasure Search, Vol5, No2, April 1977 "Claudius Smith's War Cache" by Michael W. Raab.
...a treasure may still be waiting for discovery somewhere near Monroe, in Orange County, New York.
...Did Claudius Smith and his Tory traitors really conceal stolen treasure in the Ramapo Mountains? All the available information and clues point to a resounding yes!
In 1805, a group of the descendants of Richard Smith returned from Nova Scotia, armed with instructions on where to look for the Tory treasure hidden since the Revolutionary War. They were unsuccessful...
 
SOURCE: George E Smith family pages
Richard is supposed to have escaped to Canada, received land from the British Government in New Brunswick and settled in Charlotte County...May have Lot 529 at St. John NB.
 
SOURCE: South of the Mountains, Vol 35, Issue 4 October 1991, p.8 "Claudius Smith, Loyalist" by Elizabeth S. Smith
...Richard Smith is another story for another day. Like many of the other Loyalists, he went to Canada. It is sufficient to say here that after the death of Claudius, the gang, under the leadership of Richard, became criminal, and because Claudius was once associated with it, crimes committed after his death were attributed to him.
 
SOURCE: New Brunswick Public Archives, Grant book data base- on the "net"
For "Richard Smith" I found the 4 following entries. I have received copies of  all these papers but cannot reliably relate any of  them unconditionally to "my" Richard Smith. The later dated entries are undoubtedly belonging to sons of the first two.
1. Volume A, page 39, Grant # 70. Original province of Registration: Nova Scotia; N.S. Registration date: 1784/08/14; NB Registration date: 1785/01/02; Place and County: Parr Town, Sunbury County
2. Volume A, page 187, Grant # 97;Original province of Registration: Nova Scotia; N.S. Registration date: 1784/10/01; NB Registration date: 1785/06/05;Acreage: 100 acres; Place and County: Wentworth, Sunbury County; Comments:Cape Ann Association
3.Volume D, page 355, Grant # 495; Original province of Registration: New Brunswick;  NB Registration date: 1809/07/19;Acreage: 250 acres; Place and County:Woodstock, York County; Comments: 24 others
4. Volume 4, page 147, Grant # 1090,Original province of Registration: New Brunswick;  NB Registration date: 1819/02/13;Acreage: 500 acres; Place and County:Carleton, Northumberland County
 
SOURCE: Letter from Col John Hathorn to George Clinton Warwick 14 Mar 1779  transcript copied from part of the Draper Manuscript owned by Wisconsisn Historical society Vol20, p 29. electronically copied.
This is a partial transcript.
...I take the liberty to mention to your Excellency this peculiar Cituation, which is truly deplorable. Their Residences are in that part of the Mountains and their Vicinity where the late Claudius Smith ranged. He is dead yet his Baneful Poison remains. A recent Instance thereof a few days ago happened about three & a half miles from my House. John Clerk was by Richard Smith Son of the said Claudius in a Cool and Premeditated manner with his Six other Villains taken out of his house about 150 yards from the same. Their Intention was to hanged him but, fearing this Business would detain them too long, the said Smith put a Pistol to his breast and shot him through the body, of which Wound he died. These villains did not stop there but made another Attempt the following Night but was Providentially disappointed in their Intention.
Instances of their Bloody Acts are become frequent, their threats obvious, insomuch that every man that is a Whig is really in danger, its Notorious that no Individual that lives near their Course can be Exempt from their Power.
A Number of the Inhabitants are removing for fear and those who even dare to keep their families in their places don't pretend to Sleep in their Houses at Night.
II can truly say the unfortunate Clerk was a good Soldier and an Indefatagable Watcher of every Motion of the disaffected who have been pretty numerous where he lived. He is a loss to this Regiment and to the Publick in General...


Samuel Smith [Parents] 1 was born about 1755 in Smith's Clove, Orange Co, NY. He died 21 Jul 1836 in Monroe, Orange County, NY, USA. Samuel married X Unknown about 1773.

Other marriages:
Mapes, Mary

 Very little is known about Samuel. He is referred to in David Smith's will as "Samuel Smith son of Claudius". Family tradition has always claimed that Samuel was son of Claudius. Since few folk seem willing to claim a relationship with Claudius, and Samuel, in spite of the fact that he was on opposite sides of the Revolution did, and he is mentioned thusly in David's will,  I assume this claim to be true. The following is the best information I have found on Samuel.(my exceptions are noted)

SOURCE: Meta Smith Bush, "Smith and Allied Families"
     Samuel Smith, Son of Claudius, is a person comparatively unknown...The date of his birth is not known...in the 1790 Census Samuel's family consisted of two males over 16, three males under 16, and three females. That would mean that Samuel and his wife had one son over 16, three under sixteen and two daughters. This would mean that he was married by 1773 at the latest. At the Cornwall town meeting of 1775, he was named "keeper of the path for district 22", all proving that he was head of his own household before the Revolution.  This would indicate that he was the oldest son of Claudius (I disagree on this point. According to a newspaper account found in both the Eager and Ruttenber and Clark Histories as taken from the Fishkill Packet, William was the eldest of Claudius' sons. Eager's History of Orange County, p 563: '...all accounts agree that William, the oldest, was shot in the mountains in the fall of 1778, by whig scouts sent in pursuit of the gang." Lil).
     It is believed that Samuel married Mary Mapes who was the widow of Joshua Broffit. She was the daughter of Henry Mapes, born 1737 and his wife Ruth Rumsey. (I have no proof beyond birth dates of Smith and Broffit children but I am of the opinion that Samuel was married prior to his marriage with Mary Mapes. The will of Henry Mapes made Oct 20, 1812 indicates that Hezekiah Broffit was underage." Imprimis I give and bequeath to my grandson Hezekiah Braffit the sum of twenty dollars to be paid to him when he shall arrive to the age of twenty one years together with the Interest that may arise thereon which sum of Twenty dollars I direct my son David Mapes to put out at Interest to the best advantage for the use and at the risque of the said Hezekiah," This indicates that said Hezekiah was born not earlier than 1791.(1812- 21). We know that Eleanor Holbert, daughter of Samuel was born 1 June, 1777, and that
James was born circa 1780 and David circa 1781. Their mother could not have been Mary Mapes. It seems logical to assume that both Samuel and Mary had previous marriages and that they married fairly quickly after the death of Joshua Broffit as they had son Moses circa 1792. - Lil)
     Samuel belonged to the 4th Regiment of Orange county Militia under Col William Allison. He signed the Articles of Association at Cornwall in 1775. He also appears under Land Bounty Rights, 3rd regiment of Orange County Militia. (His services have been verified by the DAR). He must have had strong convictions to fight for independence in view of the fact that his father and brothers were Tory.
     He probably lived on or near district 22 before the Revolution, but on Dec 27, 1805, he bought 295 acres of mountain Lot 13 of the Cheesecock Patent. From this tract he later sold off two parcels and farmed the rest. He was in possession of this land at the time of his death. The farm - known locally as the Albert Nadges place- was high on the ridge at the left of the present road from Walton Lake to Greenwood Lake. At that time, the road was the main road from Goshen to New York, passing through the Ramapos. It was in that mountainous country that Claudius' band had its hiding places.
     He was a blacksmith by trade and had his forge at the farm. At that time the blacksmith was an indispensable person in the community for all iron ware was hand forged. Samuel not only shod horses and oxen there, but he turned out farming tools - plough points for the wooden plows, hoes, axes, nails, as well as household utensils. He took part in the political life being named assessor in 1798. Samuel died in 1836, for his will filed at Goshen was made July 25, 1836 and probated Oct 22 of the same year.
SOURCE: a history of the Smith family received from Terry Hurd. Author unknown.
Claudius' son Samuel was, probably, ( other sources - Eager and Ruttenber and Clark, seem to indicate that William was the eldest) the first born of his 4 sons for he was old enough in 1775 to be appointed pathmaster of District 22 which was one of the lots laid out in Charles Clinton's survey and was located on or near what is now the road between the present villages of Monroe and Greenwood Lake, probably near Dutch Hollow.  He was a Whig, thus differing from his Tory father and 3 brothers.  Samuel signed the articles of Association in Cornwall in 1775 and appeared as a militia man in the 41 regiment of Orange County Militia under Col. John Hawthorne.  He is listed for land bounty rights as a member of the 3rd regiment of Orange County Militia.

SOURCE: Will of Samuel Smith, p159-165, Liber J 1 Mar 1830- 19 Sep 1836
In the name of God, Amen. I, Samuel Smith, of the town of Monroe, in the County of Orange & State of New York, considering the uncertainty of this mortal life; and being of sound and perfect mind and memory (blessed be almighty God for the same), do make and publish this my last will and testament in manner and form following.
First I do will and order that all my lawful debts and funeral charges be paid out of my personal property; Then I give unto my Grandson, David Smith,(son of David Smith, deceased), of the residue of my personal property the sum of one dollar. I then do give and bequeath all the rest, residue and remainder of my personal property unto my three daughters, Elinor Holbert, Hannah Mickens, and Ann Hunter (to be equally divided excepting the best coverlet which belongs to the bed on which I sleep that I do give to my daughter Ann Hunter; and the bed on which I sleep with the residue of the bedding belonging thereto, I do give and bequeath it unto my granddaughter Martha Meekins.
These several legacies I will and order shall be paid to the said and respective legatees within one year after my decease.
As to my freehold estate, I give and devise unto my two sons James Smith and Jesse Smith and to my two grandsons, Samuel Smith and William Smith, their heirs and assigns, All that part of my homestead farm lying within the following described boundaries (as lately marked out by myself, & my son Hophni Smith and the Rev. Hosea Ball) Beginning at the corner of Robert Arnold and Joseph Fitsgerald's land in the southerly line of my farm then following a straight course northeasterly to a small white ash tree (blazed and notched on two sides) standing on the north bank of a brook near ther road that leads from my dwelling house to the Valley road_ thence along down the brook to a small Rock Oak Tree (blazed and notched on two sides) standing on the north bank of said brook by a fall of the waters and near the road that leads to the Valley road_ thence a straight corner northerly to a Rock Oak tree (blazed and notched on two sides) standing on a high bank on the westerly side of a small rill of water near a large sugar maple tree standing at the North end of a large rock or ledge to an Ironwood tree(blazed and notched on two sides standing in the wood near the gap in the fence that leads from side hill lot into spring lot _ thence a straight corner to a sugar maple tree blazed and notched on two sides and from thence keeping the same course to John Gray's line thence southerly following my line round to the place of beginning. To have and to hold unto them (the said James Smith, Jesse Smith, Samuel Smith and William Smith) their heirs and assigns forever. The remaining part of my homestead farm I give and devise unto my son Moses Smith, his heirs and assigns forever (upon the consideration that he, the said Moses Smith shall shall within three years after my decease pay to my executors the sum of sixty dollars to be added to my personal property and by them dispense according to the directions I have given above in relation to my personal estate) to have and to hold the same ( all the rest residue and remainder of my homestead farm not herein otherwise disposed of) unto him the said Moses Smith, his heirs and assigns forever (I hereby recognize the children he had by his former wife Patty as well as those he has by the last wife Jane as heirs) Lastly, as to all the rest residue and remainder of my freehold estate, together with the residue of my right title and interest in Lot No 3 in the subdivision of Big Lot #12 being one equal fourth part undivided of said Lot No 3 except seventy acres in said fourth part which I have sold to Peter Townsend JR.  I give and bequeath unto my two sons Moses Smith and Hophni Smith their heirs and assigns forever. To have and to hold this same unto them the said Moses Smith and Hophni Smith their heirs and assigns forever.
I do hereby revoke all former wills by me made and appoint my son Hophni Smith and my grandson William Smith executors of this my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this the first day of March, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight hundred and thirty.
Samuel Smith. his seal.
Witness: Hosea Ball, Austin H Vail , Sarah Ball
I Samuel Smith the within testator do this day revoke that part of this written Will of mine by which my son Moses smith is required to pay sixty dollars to be added to my personal estate and in return and in relation to my personal estate I will and ordain that if at my decease any of the money should remain due (or be on hand) for which I sold land to Lewis H Roe, I give the same to my son Moses SMITH providing that it should not amount to more than two hundred dollars;but if it should amount to more than two hundred dollars then allover the two hundred dollars is to go with my personal property agreeable to the provisions of within will. In witness whereof I do set may hand and seal this fifteenth day of May eighteen hundred thirty five. Samuel Smith
Witness, Hosea Ball, Greenburgh
               Albert smith, Monroe

SOURCE: OCGS Bulletin, Vol 4 Issue 3 LDS fiche# 6048732
They lived south of Walton Lake, Monroe, NY.

SOURCE: On a database of Gilead Presbyterian Church 1757-1857, Carmel, Putnam Co NY found a birth for Samuel Smith b Aug 1757 to David Smith and wife Not likely mine. Our David was definitely in OC by this date.

X Unknown died (UNKNOWN). She married Samuel Smith about 1773.

They had the following children:

  F i Eleanor Smith was born 1 Jun 1777 and died 13 Jul 1843.
  M ii James Smith was born about 1780 and died 4 Jul 1842.
  M iii David Sr. Smith was born 1781 and died 17 Dec 1804.

John Jr Holbert was born 1 Jan 1773. He died 19 May 1846. John married Eleanor Smith on 26 Oct 1799.

ALL INFORMATION ON HOLBERT DESCENDANTS FROM PREDMORE GENEALOGY
SOURCE: OCGS Bulletin, Vol 2 Issue 3,p.23 LDS fiche# 6048732
article JOHN HOLBERT: Old Orange county Families No 21 by J R V. Independent Republican, Tuesday October 14, 1913.
SOURCE: Notes of Eleanor Wibb p 35, OCGS

Eleanor Smith [Parents] 1 was born 1 Jun 1777 in Smith's Clove, Orange Co. NY. She died 13 Jul 1843 in Chester, Orange County, NY, USA and was buried 1848 in interred on Holbert Farm, Sugar Loaf, NY. Eleanor married John Jr Holbert on 26 Oct 1799.

 
SOURCE: Marion L. Kimmons  - Tuesday Oct 12 1999
This is the Holbert Bible information from May Burnham's book, which was published in 1953::
"Mrs. Frank Holbert  of Warwick, NY has been very gracious and cooperative.  She sent as many records of Captain John Holbert's descendants as she could assemble.  These names and dates were taken from Bibles, cemeteries and court records.  She visited cemeteries, sent pictures of tombstones and photostatic copy of a deed.
She wrote that she as well as her husband was descended from Captain Holbert's son John Jr. - she from John Jr.'s daughter Maria and Frank Holbert from John Jr.'s son Ezra.
Record copied from old Holbert Bible: "A record of the Family of John Holbert, Jr., and Eleanor, his wife"
Names of grandparents, parents and children.
John Holbert, born December 14, 1742
    wife
    Mary Bellus, born April 14, 1741
 
John Holbert, Jr., born January 1, 1773, married October 26, 1799,
Eleanor Smith, born June 1, 1777
Children:
1.  Coe, born December 15, 1800
2.  Ezra, born March 6, 1802, m. Phila Ann Weeden
3.  Jesse, born June 2, 1803, m. Maria Whitman
4.  Maria, born November 5, 1804, m. John Knapp
5.  Betsy, born April 3, 1807, m.
6.  Fanny, born October 21, 1808, m. John Van de Voort
7.  John Smith, born August 12, 1810
8.  Eleanor, born April 15, 1814, m. James L. Rhodes
9.  Jane, born October 2, 1817
10. Samuel, Jr., born September 3, 1822
 
Ezra Holbert, born March 6, 1802, died January 29, 1873, married Phila Ann Weeden, born 1808, died May 18, 1844.
    Son: Albert Ruggles Holbert, born 1837, died 1914, married October 30, 1861, Mary Henrietta                  Wisner, born May 3, 1842, died March 23, 1894.
    Son: Frank Holbert, born August 10, 1865, died October 18, 1942, married December 1890 Grace                 Pelton, born April 23, 1870.
 
Maria Holbert, daughter of John Holbert, Jr. and Eleanor Smith, married John Knapp, born June 26, 1797, died November 21, 1866.
    Daughter: Almeda Knapp born July 2, 1837, married William W. Pelton, born December 15, 1837,                          died February 25, 1916.
            Children:
        John, married Martha Hetzel
        Grace, born April 24, 1870, married Frank Holbert
        Almeda, unmarried
        Geraldine, married Selah S. Durland.
                one son, William P. Durland
 
John Smith Holbert, son of John Holbert, Jr., and Eleanor Smith, born August 18, 1812, died May 5, 1876, married Catherine E. Bertholf, born March 17, 1814, died February 7, 1895.        
         Children: Caroline, Charlotte, Elizabeth, Othaniel, Samuel, Emily, Ella and John S.
 
Mr. and Mrs. Frank Holbert had three children:
    1. Ramsen Wisner Holbert, born October 26, 1891.  Graduated from
Princeton University in 1914; married Wilhelmina Dunning.  They have one
daughter, Clara
    2.  Albert Ruggles Holbert, born April 12, 1804; died march 17,
1955.
    3.  Grace Pelton Holbert born June 24, 1904, married Raymond.
Bennett.  Grace is a graduate of Wellesley College, Class of 1927, and
later Columbia School of Library Science.  She is now Librarian at
Thrall Library, at Middletown, NY.
 
For many years Mr. Frank Holbert had a jewelry store in Brooklyn.  When
he retired they made their home at Pelton Homestead in Orange County.
The house was built in 1803.
 
In 1940 Mr. and Mrs. Holbert celebrated their golden wedding anniversary.  In 1942, Mr. Holbert passed away.  Her son and her daughter Almeda, live with Mrs. Holbert at Pelton Homestead.
 
Mrs. Frank Holbert (Grace Pelton) is a Daughter of the American Revolution, National No. 113940.  She also is a member of the "Founders Chapter of the Daughters of the 17th Century.  At the age of eighty-four she was a delegate in April 1952 at their annual meeting in Washington, D. C.  She also attended the DAR National Congress and presented the DAR with several lovely museum pieces."
 
That is all the information that I have on the Holbert/Smith connection.  I do have considerable other information about the earlier Holbert (Hurlburt, etc), also some on Mary Bellus (Bellis, Belles).
According to family tradition, when John Holbert married Mary Bellus, he could speak no German and she could speak no English (they must have been able to communicate someway, don't you think?)
 
SOURCE:
Will of Eleanor Smith Holbert
Liber P, Page 35-38
Orange County Surrogates Court 1848
 
The last will and testament of Eleanor Holbert of the town of Chester in the County of Orange and the state of New York. I Eleanor Holbert considering the uncertainty of this mortal life and being of sound mind and memory (Blessed Be Almighty God for same), do make and publish this my last will and testament in manner and form following. that is to say
Item: I give and bequeath unto my son Coe Holbert one feather bed and bedding
Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter Elizabeth Holbert two silver serving spoons
Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter Ellen Rhoads two silver preserve spoons
I further give and bequeath unto my five daughters viz: Marie Knapp, Fanny Vandervoort, Elizabeth Holbert, Ellen Roades, Jane Holbert all my entire household furniture to be divided equally among them share and share alike and lastly as to all the rest, residue and remainder of my personal estate goods, chattels of what kind and nature soever and also all my real estate wheresoever the same may be or in whatsoever state or condition or manner it may exist, I hereby give devise and bequeath unto my nine children, viz:Coe Holbert, Ezra Holbert, Jesse Holbert,Mariah Knapp, Elizabeth Holbert, Fanny Vandervoort, John S Holbert, Ellen Roades and Jane Holbert to their and their assigns forever, share and share alike.
And it is my will that if it should so happen that I do not sell all my real estate in my lifetime then I hereby now aid and direct my executors hereinafter named to sell all of my real estate wheresoever and in whatsoever shape or manner the same may be or exist as soon as convenient after my decease and divide the proceeds of the same equally among all of my said children and if any of them shall then be dead and leave children such child or children shall inherit the part and portion that the parent would have inherited.
And lastly I nominate and appoint my two sons, viz: Ezra Holbert and Jesse Holbert executors to this my last will and testament hereby revoking all former wills by me made in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this seventeenth day of June in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty-eight. Eleanor Holbert
 
SOURCE: OCGS Bulletin, Vol 3 Issue 3,p.23 LDS fiche# 6048732
Family Bible record
Page in frame in possession of Grace Holbert Pelton Bennett 7/17/73. Record of the family of John Holbert
John Holbert b 12/14/1742 m Mary Bellus b 4/14/1741
John Holbert Jr b 12/14/1742 m Eleanor Smith b 6/1/1777
son Coe 12/15/1800               dau Betsy 4/3/1807
son Ezra 3/6/1802                  dau Fanny b 10/21/1808
son Jessee 6/2/1803              son John Smith Holbert 8/18/1810
Dau Maria 11/15/1804

They had the following children:

  M i
Coe Holbert was born 15 Dec 1800. He died 29 Jul 1849.

Never married
  M ii Ezra Holbert was born 6 Mar 1802 and died 29 Jan 1873.
  M iii Jesse Holbert was born 2 Jun 1803 and died 17 Mar 1849.
  F iv Marie Holbert was born 15 Nov 1804 and died 24 Apr 1883.
  F v
Elizabeth Holbert was born 3 Apr 1807. She died 27 Sep 1881.

Unmarried.
  F vi Fanny Holbert was born 21 Oct 1808 and died 11 Dec 1874.
  M vii John Smith Holbert was born 18 Aug 1810 and died 5 May 1876.
  F viii Eleanor Holbert was born 15 Apr 1815.
  F ix
Jane Holbert was born 1 2 Oct 1817. She died 25 Oct 1824.


SOURCE:

-------Original Message-------       
 
      
             
Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:42:39       PM
             
Subject: Holberts
      
 
Hello,
My name is Femi Roecker, I live in       Bellvale/Warwick, NY. I volunteer for the
Warwick Historical Society       and work on some of the genealogy of the old
families in Warwick(on my       own). Today I was in the process of photcopying
the family bible       records of John HOLBERT(1742-1829) and noticed that there
are a couple       of dates different from what you have listed on your site. I'll
include       them for you:


Eleanor HOLBERT b. 15 April 1815
Jane HOLBERT       b. 2 Oct, 1817
Samuel HOLBERT is the same as you have       listed

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Femi       Roecker

----------------------------------------------------
  M x Samuel Holbert was born 3 Sep 1822 and died 25 Oct 1824.

James Smith [Parents] 1 was born about 1780 in Smith's Clove, Orange Co. NY. He died 4 Jul 1842 in Monroe, Orange County, NY, USA. James married Phoebe Newberry about 1799.

Other marriages:
Hallock, I

MOST OF THE INFORMATION FOR THIS LINE FROM PREDMORE GENEALOGY
SOURCE: History of Orange County New York< Ruttenber & Clark (Heart of the Lakes Pub Co: Interlaken NY, 1980. Vol 1 (LDS fiche # 6100669-70)
p 68 A James Smith appears as a signee on the list of the "Committee of Public Safety and Observation" for Cornwall. A James Smith also appears a a persons refusing to sign. I am fairly certain this would be his Uncle James who was part of Claudius' "Gang".
 
SOURCE:  Film 0837263 - NY OC Index to Surrogates Records-1787-1898
1842: James Smith Admin Liber G p 209

Phoebe Newberry was born 2 Feb 1774. She died about 1811. Phoebe married James Smith about 1799.

They had the following children:

  M i John S Smith was born 1799 and died (UNKNOWN).
  F ii
Johanna Memima Smith was born 23 Dec 1801. She died (UNKNOWN).
  F iii Malinda Smith was born 23 Dec 1801 and died 4 Dec 1861.
  F iv Katherine Maria Smith was born 7 Feb 1803 and died 18 Apr 1838.
  F v Elizabeth Smith was born about 1805 and died (UNKNOWN).
  F vi Jemima Smith was born 23 Dec 1805 and died 12 Dec 1861.
  M vii Charles D Smith was born 24 Jul 1811 and died 21 Oct 1858.

James Smith [Parents] 1 was born about 1780 in Smith's Clove, Orange Co. NY. He died 4 Jul 1842 in Monroe, Orange County, NY, USA. James married I Hallock after 1811.

Other marriages:
Newberry, Phoebe

MOST OF THE INFORMATION FOR THIS LINE FROM PREDMORE GENEALOGY
SOURCE: History of Orange County New York< Ruttenber & Clark (Heart of the Lakes Pub Co: Interlaken NY, 1980. Vol 1 (LDS fiche # 6100669-70)
p 68 A James Smith appears as a signee on the list of the "Committee of Public Safety and Observation" for Cornwall. A James Smith also appears a a persons refusing to sign. I am fairly certain this would be his Uncle James who was part of Claudius' "Gang".
 
SOURCE:  Film 0837263 - NY OC Index to Surrogates Records-1787-1898
1842: James Smith Admin Liber G p 209

I Hallock died 7 Mar 1850. She married James Smith after 1811.

They had the following children:

  M i
Samuel Smith was born after 1812. He died 1851.

David Sr. Smith [Parents] 1 was born 1781 in Monroe, Orange Co, New York, USA. He died 17 Dec 1804 in Monroe, Orange Co, NY, USA. David married Abigail Clark on May 1804.

SOURCE: Nozells Genealogy Database www.rootsweb.co,/~nozell/demo/indi/indi1351.html
SOURCE: Meta Smith Bush, "Smith and Allied Families.p 22
David Smith, son of Samuel Smith and Mary Broffit nee Mapes was born in 1781. (Note I doubt Mary was his mother- see notes on Samuel) Very little is known about him for he died at an early age. In the weekly paper "Rights of Man" published in Newburgh on Dec 4 , 1804 and on file at the Newburgh Free Library, is found the following item.- " Fatal Accident - On Monday evening last, Mr David Smith of Southfield, fell from his horse, on the Blooming Grove Road, about 10 miles from New Windsor, and expired in a few hours. A smooth shod horse and slippery road occasioned this melancholy catastrophe. The deceased was about 23 years of age, and has left a child, the fruit of a first marriage, and a wife to whom he had been allied about six months to mourn his early death."
This is his short and simple biography. Unfortunately there has been no record discovered to tell the name of David's first wife. It also seems probable that the child mentioned did not live long for no trace remains of its ever existing except for this item.
The second wife referred to was Abigail Clark, daughter of Gershom Clark who had a Revolutionary record...About three months after David was killed his son David was born- March 1805. Abigail was about eighteen years old when her child was born
LIL'S NOTE: Since Meta Smith Bush was of this line, I suspect that her information is as good as it gets.

Abigail Clark was born 10 Apr 1786 in Interlochen, Orange Co. NY USA. She died 18 Oct 1862 in Monroe, Orange Co, NY, USA. Abigail married David Sr. Smith on May 1804.

SOURCE:Nozell
"bp. The ridge of land between Walton lake and Round Lake now named Interlochen - Meta Smith"
SOURCE: Erick Fehlberg
OCGS v4#1 pg. 6 says Abigail married David and James Smith and OCGS v5#4,
pg. 31 says her niece, Abigail, married David and James Smith.  Which James Smith?
SOURCE: Meta Smith Bush " Smith and Allied families" p 22
Abigail's old home was on the farm which was still occupied by Clarks until about 20 years ago. It is on the ridge of land which is the divide between Walton Lake and Round Island Lake and is now named Interlochen. About three months after David was killed, his son David was born. March 1805. Abigail was about 18 when her child was born.
p23
It seems quite probably that the young widow had gone back to her father's home to have her child and rear him. The tie linking them with Samuel had been broken and it seems very likely that Samuel saw very little of the child, for in his will he left his grandson David just one dollar...Years later, as an old man David remarked that his only bequest from his mother was a silk Handkerchief.

They had the following children:

  M i David Irving Jr. Smith was born 5 Mar 1805 and died 26 Mar 1878.

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