Janet's Genealogy

Mortimer Family

This all I know about the DE BERKELEY family but I will now do the DE BERKELEY wives.

The first wife is Mortimer

Margaret MORTIMER died 5 May 1337 and was buried in St Augustine's, Bristol. She married Thomas the rich DE BERKELEY on 25 Jul 1320. Margaret Mortimer parents were: Roger MORTIMER was born 1287. He died � Death: 29 Nov 1330 in Elms, Tyburn, England. Roger married Joan DE GENEVILLE died 1356. . Joan De Genville daughter Piers (Peter) De Genville and his wife: Jeanne De Lusignan

Notes for Roger Father: Roger De Mortimer b: 25 Apr 1287 in Thornbury, Herts Mother: Joan De Genville b: 2 Feb 1285-1286 in Ludlow, Shrops, England 8. Roger Mortimer, 2nd Baron Mortimer, born in 1287, was summoned to parliament from February 22, 1306, to December 3, 1326 (from the accession of Edward II., with addition of "De Wigmore"). This nobleman, so notorious in the histories as the paramour of Isabel, Queen Consort of the unfortunate Edward II., was in his sixteenth year at the time of his father's death, and was placed by the king (Edward I.) in ward with Piers Gaveston, so that to redeem himself, and for permission to marry whom he pleased, he was obliged to pay Gaveston 2,500 marks, and thereupon married Joane Geneville, born in 1285, died in 1356, daughter of Peter de Geneville and his wife, Joane Lusignan. Peter was the son of Geoffrey de Geneville, Lord of Trim, in Ireland and conveyed eventually the whole inheritance of the Genevilles, and half the land of the Lacys, into that family. See Burke, pg. 228. Peter de Geneville, died in 1292, was the second son of Geoffrey de Geneville and his wife Maud Lacy, daughter of Walter Lacy, Lord of Meath. Geoffrey was the son of Peter de Geneville, a Provencal, who died in 1249, stated by Matthew of Paris, to have been a man of humble birth, and by others to have been Lord of Vancouleur, and brother of John de Geneville, or Joinville, the historian of the Crusade of St. Louis, who was Governor of Windsor Castle, and dying in 1249, was succeeded by his son and heir, Geoffrey, who in the 38th year of King Henry III., had livery of the castle of Trim, in Ireland. In four years afterwards he received a military summons to march against the Welsh, and in the 44th year of the same king, being then one of the barons marchers, he had command to repair to the castle of Wales, and to reside there. In the 10th year of King Edward I., he was in the expedition made against the Welsh, and in fifteen years subsequently he was in the wars of Gascony. For all which service he was summoned to parliament as a baron, February 6, 1299, and from that period to November 3, 1306. He married Maud, daughter and heir of Gilbert de Lacy (Lacey), son of Walter de Lacy (Lacey), Lord of Maeth. He died in 1307, succeeded by his son, Peter, whose older brother, Geoffrey d.s.p. in the lifetime of his father. In the 34th year of Edward I., he received the honor of knighthood, and the same year attended the king into Scotland, where we find him again in the 3rd year of Edward II., and the same year he was constituted Governor of the castle of Buelt, in Brecknockshire. In the 7th, 8th, and 9th years he was likewise in Scotland, and then appointed lord-lieutenant of Ireland. During the remainder of the unhappy Edward's reign he attached himself to the interests of the queen, and at length fled with her and Prince Edward into France. Returning, however, and his party triumphing, he was advanced to the dignity of Earl of March soon after the accession of King Edward III., and he held a round table the same year at Bedford. But hereupon becoming proud beyond measure (so that his own son, Geoffrey, called him the King of Folly), he kept a round table of knights in Wales, in imitation of King Arthur. "Other particulars," says Dugdale, "of his haughtiness and insolence were these, viz., that with Queen Isabel, he caused parliament to be held at Northampton, where an unworthy agreement was made with the Scots, and Ragman's Roll of Homage of Scotland was traitorously delivered as also the black cross, which King Edward I. brought into England, out of the abbey of Scone, and then accounted a precious relic. That (with the queen) he caused the young king to ride twenty-four miles in one night, towards Bedford, to destroy the Earl of Lancaster and his adherents, saying that they imagined the king's death. That he followed Queen Isabel to Nottingham, and lodged in one house with her. That he commanded the treasure of the realm, and assumed the authority, which by common consent in parliament was conferred upon Henry, Earl of Lancaster, at the king's coronation." His career was not however of long continuance, for, the king becoming sensible of his folly and vices, had him suddenly seized in the castle of Nottingham, and conveyed prisoner to London, where, being impeached before parliament, he was convicted under various charges, the first of which was privity to the murder of King Edward II. in Berkeley Castle; and receiving sentence of death was hanged in 1330, at the summons gallows, called Elmes, near Smithfield, where his body was permitted to hang for two days and three nights naked, before it was interred in the Grey Friars; whence in some years afterwards it was removed to Wigmore. The Earl of March left issue four sons and seven daughters as follows:

1. Edmund Mortimer..

2. Roger Mortimer, married in 1321 Joane Butler.

3. Geoffrey Mortimer, Lord of Towyth.

4. John Mortimer, slain in a tournament at Shrewsbury.

5. Katherine Mortimer, died 1371, married in 1337 Thomas de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, an original Knight of the Garter.

6. Joane Mortimer, who died before 1351, married some years before June 13 1330, as his first wife, James Audley, Lord Audley, a descendant of Surety William Malet, born January 8, 1312/13, died April 1, 1386, son of Nicholas Audley, Lord Audley of Heleigh and his wife Joan Martin (her 2nd marriage). James Audley married (2) Isabel le Strange, said to be the daughter of Roger le Strange of Knockyn. Joane Mortimer and James Audley had one son and two daughters as follows:

1. Nicholas Audley, Lord Audley, born about 1328, d.s.p., 1391.

2. Joan Audley, married John Touchet of Markeaton, co. Derby, who was slain at Rochelle in 1371.

3. Margaret (Margery) Audley, married Fulk FitzWarin, son of Fulk FitzWarin, Knight of the Garter, and his wife Joan Beaumont, daughter of Henry Beaumont and his wife Alice Comyn.

7. Agnes Mortimer, married Laurence Hastings, Earl of Pembroke, died 1348, a descendant of Surety Roger Bigod.

8. Margaret Mortimer, married (1) Robert de Vere, 6th Earl of Oxford, who died without issue; and (2) Thomas de Berkeley, Lord Berkeley, son and heir of Maurice de Berkeley, a descendant of the Surety, Saire de Quincy.

See the continuation of this lineage in the Berkeley Line of Volume II. 9. Maud (Matilda) Mortimer, married John de Cherlton, son and heir of John, Lord Powys.

10. Blanche Mortimer, married Peter de Grandison, died 1358, son of William de Garndison and his wife Sibilla Tregoz. They had no issue. 11. Beatrix (Beatrice) Mortimer, married (1) Edward, son and heir of Thomas of Brotherton, Earl Marshal of England, and (2) Thomas de Braose, son of Peter de Braose (half brother of William de Braose, Lord Braose of Gower). The issue of none of their three sons survived. Their daughter Joane also died without issue. But their daughter Beatrice Braose, married William Saye, Lord Saye, and they had a daughter Elizabeth Saye, who married (1) John de Falvesley, who died without issue about 1392, and married (2) William Heron, Knight of Applynden, who died without issue in 1404.

Upon the execution and attainder of the earl all the honors of Roger Mortimer became forfeited.

20 July 1397 Roger Mortimer, of Edvin, Herefordshire, with his sons Richard and Roger, were summoned for felonious assault at Kyre Wyard, Worcestershire [citing Proceedings before the Justices of the Peace in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries, The Ames Foundation (1938)].

Evans suggests it is possible that there were two Roger Mortimers in succession, and it does seem difficult to identify the Roger who was summoned in 1397, together with his sons Richard and Roger, with the Roger who died in 1402 to be succeeded by a son John, born as late as 1388. Perhaps instead the Roger who died in 1402 was the younger Roger who occurs in 1397? Even if so, that would still leave unresolved the exact relationship with the younger John, of 1361. It seems more work is needed to be sure of the relationship between the earlier and later descendants of Roger de Mortimer of Chirk. Roger Father: Edmond De Mortimer b: 1261 in Wigmore (Hereford) England and Mother: Margaret De Fiennes b: in England, Margaret daughter of Guillaume I De Feinnes b: 1160 his wife Agnes De Dammartin

Note: Edmund Mortimer , Lord of Wigmore, born in 1261, fought constantly in the Welsh wars, and was mortally wounded in the battle of Buelt, dying July 17, 1304. He married Margaret Fiennes, daughter of William de Fiennes and his wife, Blanche Brienne, daughter of Jean de Brienne and his wife, Jeanne Chateaudun. She was the great granddaughter of Jean de Brienne, King of Jerusalem. In the 10th year of King Edward I., he succeeded his father, and the next year, doing his homage, had livery of his lands. He was afterwards constantly employed in the Welsh wars, and was summoned to parliament as a baron, from June 8, 1294, and from June 23, 1295, to June 2, 1302. He was mortally wounded at the battle of Buelt, against the Welsh, and dying almost immediately, at Wigmore Castle, was buried in the abbey there. He and his wife had the following children: 1. Roger Mortimer, his successor. above.

2. John Mortimer, accidentally slain in a tournament at Worcester, in the 12th year of King Edward II., by John de Leyburne, being not more than eighteen years of age.

3. Hugh Mortimer, a priest, rector of the church at old Radnor.

4. Maud Mortimer, married Theobald de Verdon.

5. Joan Mortimer, a nun.

6. Elizabeth Mortimer, a nun.

Edmond parents were: Roger De Mortimer b: 1231 in Cwmaron Castle, Rdnrsh, Wales. Roger wife Maud De Braiose Or Brewes Or Breuse b: Abt 1230 in Bramber Castle, (Or Arundel), England. Maud is the daughter of : William De Braiose b: 1204 in Brecknock William wife : Eva Marshall. Grand-daughter of William Marshal b: 1146 William wife Isabel De Clare b: 1171. Great-Grand daughter of Richard "The Strongbow" De Clare b: Abt 1130 in Tunbridge, Kent, England Richard wife : Eva Macmurrough

Note: Upon having procured the honor of knighthood to be conferred by King Edward I., he caused a tournament to be held, at his own cost, at Kenilworth, where he sumptuously entertained a hundred knights and as many ladies, for three days, the like whereof was never before known in England; and there began the round table, so called from the place wherein they practiced those feats, which was encompassed by a strong wall, in a circular form. Upon the 4th day the golden lion, in token of triumph, having been yielded to him, he carried it with all that company to Warwick. The fame whereof being spread into foreign countries occasioned the Queen of Navarre to send him certain wooden bottles, bound with golden bars and wax, under the pretense of wine, but in truth filled with gold, which for many ages after were preserved in the Abbey of Wigmore. Whereupon for the love of that queen, he had added a carbuncle to his arms. This celebrated feudal lord died in 1282, and was succeeded by his eldest surviving son, Edmund.

Roger de Mortimer , in the 31st year of King Henry III., paying 2,000 marks to the king, had livery of all his lands, excepting those whereof Gladys, his mother then surviving was endowed. In six years afterwards he attended the king in his expedition into Gascony, and in a few years subsequently, when Llewellyn, Prince of Wales, began again to make incursion upon the marches, received command to assist Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, in the defense of the country lying between Montgomery, and the lands of the Earl of Gloucester. In the 42nd year of the same reign he had another military summons to march with the king against the Welsh; and being in that service, had a special discharge of his scutage for those twenty-six knights' fees and a sixth part which he held in right of Maud, his wife, one of the daughters and co-heirs of William de Braose, of Brecknock. In two years afterwards he was made captain-general of all the king's forces in Wales, all the barons marchers receiving command to be attendant on him with their whole strength; and he was the same year constituted the Governor of the castle of Hereford. But notwithstanding this extensive power, and those great resources, he was eventually worsted by Llewellyn, and constrained to sue for permission to depart, which the Welsh price conceded, owing to his consanguity. After this he took and active part in the contest between Henry III. and the insurrectionary barons in favor of the former. He was at the battle of Lewes, whence he fled into Wales, and afterwards successfully planned the escape of Prince Edward. Having accomplished his prince's freedom, Mortimer, directing all his energies to the embodying a sufficient force to meet the enemy, soon placed Prince Edward in a situation to fight and win the great battle of Evesham (August 4, 1265), by which the king was restored to his freedom and his crown. In the celebrated conflict Mortimer commanded the third division of the royal army, and for his faithful services obtained, in the October following, a grant of the whole earldom and honor of Oxford, and all other the lands of Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford, at that time and by that treason forfeited. The Dictum of Kenilworth followed soon after the victory of Evesham, by which the defeated barons were suffered to regain their lands upon the payment of a stipulated fine, but this arrangement is said to have caused great irritation among the barons marchers, (Mortimer with the rest), who had acquired grants of these estates. He was, however, subsequently entrusted, by the crown, with the castle of Hereford, which he had orders to fortify, and was appointed Sheriff of Herefordshire. After the accession of Edward I., he continued to enjoy the sunshine of royal favor, and had other valuable grants from the crown. He married, as already stated above, Maud Braose, eldest daughter and a co-heir of William de Braose, of Brecknock. They had the following children:

1. Ralph de Mortimer, d.v.p.

2. Edmund de Mortimer, his successor.

3. Roger de Mortimer, 5th Lord of Wigmore, and lord of Chirke, part of the territories of Griffith ap Madoc, and was summoned to parliament from February 6, 1299, to November 3, 1396, as "Roger de Mortuomari," and as Baron Mortimer, of Chirke, from August 26, 1307, to May 15, 1321 (See Burke, Page 385-6). Eventually, his grandson sold to the lordship of Chirke to Richard Fitz Alan, Earl of Arundel.

4. William de Mortimer, of Bridgewater, an eminent soldier, married Hawise Musegros, heir of Robert de Musegros and his wife, Agnes Ferrers, but d.s.p.

5. Geoffrey de Mortimer, d.s.p., d.v.p.

6. Isabella Mortimer, married John Fitz Alan III See continuation if this lineage in the Fitz Alan Line in Volume II.

Upon having procured the honor of knighthood to be conferred by King Edward I., he caused a tournament to be held, at his own cost, at Kenilworth, where he sumptuously entertained a hundred knights and as many ladies, for three days, the like whereof was never before known in England; and there began the round table, so called from the place wherein they practiced those feats, which was encompassed by a strong wall, in a circular form. Upon the 4th day the golden lion, in token of triumph, having been yielded to him, he carried it with all that company to Warwick. The fame whereof being spread into foreign countries occasioned the Queen of Navarre to send him certain wooden bottles, bound with golden bars and wax, under the pretense of wine, but in truth filled with gold, which for many ages after were preserved in the Abbey of Wigmore. Whereupon for the love of that queen, he had added a carbuncle to his arms. This celebrated feudal lord died in 1282, and was succeeded by his eldest surviving son, Edmund. He was succeeded by his eldest son, Roger.

Roger MORTIMER Parents were Ralph MORTIMER died 1246. He married Gwladus DDU. Gwladus Ddu Of Wales died 1251. Gwladus Ddu Of Wales other marriages: DE BRAOSE, Reginald, Gwladus dau of Llywelyn Fawr Ap Iorwerth b: 1173 in Probably At Dolwyddelan Castle and Joan Plantagenet b: 1191-1200

Notes

Ralph de Mortimer , half-brother to Hugh, succeeded him at his death. In the 12th year of King Henry III., paying 100 pounds for his relief, had livery of all his lands, lying in the cos. of Gloucester, Southampton, Berks, Salop, and Hereford. This nobleman being of martial disposition, erected several strong castles, by which he was enabled to extend his possessions against the Welsh; so that Prince Llewellyn, seeing that he could not successfully cope with him, gave him his daughter Gladys (Gladuse) Dhu, daughter of Llewellyn the Great, and widow of Reginald de Braose,

Ralph de Mortimer , half-brother to Hugh, succeeded him at his death. In the 12th year of King Henry III., paying 100 pounds for his relief, had livery of all his lands, lying in the cos. of Gloucester, Southampton, Berks, Salop, and Hereford. This nobleman being of martial disposition, erected several strong castles, by which he was enabled to extend his possessions against the Welsh; so that Prince Llewellyn, seeing that he could not successfully cope with him, gave him his daughter Gladys (Gladuse) Dhu, daughter of Llewellyn the Great, and widow of Reginald de Braose, in marriage, and by this lady he had issue as follows

1. Roger de Mortimer, his successor. .

2. Peter John de Mortimer, a grey friar at Shrewsbury.

3. Hugh de Mortimer, of Chelmersh.

4. Isolda Mortimer, married (1) Walter Balem, and (2) Hugh Audley, Lord Audley. He died in 1246, and was succeeded by his eldest son, Roger

"Complete Peerage"

article on the Earls of Gloucester:

RALPH DE MONTHERMER, whose parentage is unknown, is said to have come from the bishopric of Durham.(e ) He was in the household of Gilbert, Earl of Gloucester and Hertford, whose widow Joan appears have been attracted by his personal charms,(d) and to have obtained a knighthood for him.(e) He m. the said Joan, da. of EDWARD I, apparently somtime early in 1297, as mentioned above. The King, on discovering the marriage, was extremely angry, and imprisoned Mothermer in Bristol,(f)but by the intercession of prelates and magnates he was recon- ciIed to Monthermer, who had pardon and did homage to the King and Prince,Edward 2 Aug. 1297 at Eltham.(g) On 28 Aug. he, as Ralph Monthermer, was sum. to come with horses and arms to Rochester on 8 Sep.,(h) and on 16 Sep. a house in Windsor Castle was assigned to him and Joan is wife, Countess of Gloucester.(i) In consequence of his marriage and as tenant of his wife's estates, he was styled EARL OF GLOUCESTER AND HERTFORD during her life, but never acquired full comital rank,(j) for he does not appear to have had the third penny of the county pleas which the Earls of Gloucester had received for more than 160 years,(k) moreover he lost the name of Earl at his wife's death. He was sum. for military Service again, this time as Earl, and to attend at York, 10 Apr. 1298.(a) He was sum. among the EarIs to Parl. from 25 May(I298) 26 Edw. I to 20 Jan. 1306/7. He was excused the common summons 12 Dec. 1298,(b) but during 1299, 1300, I30I, and 1303 had numerous summonses for Military Service,(c) and in I300 complained that while he was on the King's service in Scotland his men and goods had been moIested.(d) He was at the siege of Carlaverock in the summer of 1300.(e) In that year he was returned as holding lands of 40 pounds a year in counties Gloucester, Somerset and Dorset.(f) On 12 Feb. 1300/1 he joined in the Barons' Letter to the Pope concerning the Scottish claims.(g) The castle of Tonbridge and other lands in Kent, etc., were restored to him and Joan his wife r6 Nov. 1301,(h) On 28 Apr.' and 14 Nov. 1302 Ralph claimed 20 pounds a year [the third pennyl for the earldom of GIoucester, 30 #for the erdom of Hertford, and 40 # 19s.5 1/2d. forr the Barton of Bristol, as Gilbert de Clare, late Earl, had the same.(I) He was one of the King's Council at the surrender of Stirling, 24 July I304.(j) On 15 Oct. I305 he was given the custody, during the minority of Gilbert, son and heir of the late EarI, of certain lands which were not included in the surrender made by the late Earl.(k) In 1307, in the spring campaign in Scotland, he was defeated by Bruce and besieged at Ayr, but the King came to his rescue and raised the siege.(l) He had been cr. by the King EARL OF ATHOLL, 12 Oct. I306, and had received a temporary grant of Annan- dale(m) during the Earl of Hereford's deprivation; but he resigned this earldom on 24 June following (two months after the death of Joan, his wife) in favour of David of Strathbogie, and received as compensation I0,000 marks " to buy land for the maintenance of himself and his children by Joan the King's daughter now deceased."(a) At his wife's death he ceased to be an Earl, and in 1309 was summoned to parl. As a baron

Ralph De Mortimer Father: Roger De Mortimer b: 1158 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England � Death: Bef 19 Aug 1214 in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England Ralph Mother: Isbella Ferrers Note: Ref: Burke

Roger de Mortimer, Lord of Wigmore, like his predecessors, was in constant strife with the Welsh. At one time he sustained a great defeat in conjunction with Hugh de Say, but in the end he was victorious, and took twelve of their principal leaders in one battle. He also enlarged considerably his territories, and drove thieves and robbers from those parts. Being at one time present at the solemn anniversary of his father, he confirmed all his grants to the canons of Wigmore; adding, of his won gift, a spacious and fruitful pasture, lying adjacent to the abbey, called the Treasure of Mortimer. Upon which occasion his steward remonstrating him for parting with so valuable a treasure, re replied, "I have laid up my treasure in that field, where thieves cannot steal or dig, or moth corrupt." This Roger married (1) Millicent Ferrers, daughter of Robert Ferrers, Earl of Derby, and had issue as follows:

1. Hugh de Mortimer, the eldest son was his successor. This feudal lord in the baronial war adhered with unshaken fidelity to King John. In the 16th year of that monarch's reign he had military summons to attend the king at Cirencester, with the other Barons-Marchers. He married Annora Braose, daughter of William de Braose (which one?), and had 100 shillings in land with her. But having been severely wounded in a tournament, died in November, 1227, leaving no issue, when he was succeeded by his half-brother, Ralph.

2. Daughter #1, _________ Mortimer, married Stephen le Gross.

3. Joane Mortimer, married Walceline de Beauchamp. See continuation of this lineage in the Beauchamp Line. He married (2) Isabel Ferrers, sister and heir of Hugh de Ferrers, of Oakham, in Rutlandshire, and of Lechelade and Lagebiry in Gloucestershire. All which lands he inherited upon the death of the said Hugh Ferrers. Roger and Isabel had three sons as follows:

1. Ralph de Mortimer.

2. Robert de Mortimer.

3. Philip de Mortimer.

He died in 1215, and was succeeded by his eldest son, Hugh.

Roger de Mortimer, d. before 19 Aug 1214, Lord Mortimer of Wigmore, co. Hereford; m. Isabel, d. before 29 Apr 1252, granted a life interest in Lechlade, co. Gloucester & Oakham, co. Rutland which her brother Henry lost at time of conquest of Normandy, daughter of Walkelin de Ferrieres, seigneur of Ferriers-Saint-Hilaire, and lord of Oakham, Rutland. [Ancestral Roots]

ROGER DE MORTIMER, eldest surviving son and heir. In his father's lifetime he appears on the Pipe Roll as holding terrae datae in Worcestershire and Salop. He was a benefactor of Gloucester Abbey, of Kington, St. Michael, Wilts, of Cwmhir, of Jumi�ges, and if Saint-Victor-en-Caux. Between 1182 and 1189 he attested at Rouen a charter of Henry II to the monks of Barbey (diocese of Bayeux). In 1191, upon a charge of conspiring with the Welsh against the King, he was forced to surrender his castles and to abjure the country for three years. In April 1194 he was in England again, and witnessed a charter of Richard I, after his second Coronation at Winchester. Roger was a strenuous Lord Marcher, and in 1195 drove the sons of Cadwallon out of Maelienydd, and restored Cwmaron Castle; but next year Rhys, Prince of South Wales, defeated a well-equipped force of cavalry and foot under Mortimer and Hugh de Say, of Richard's Castle, with much slaughter, near Radnor. He was one of the magnates who refused to serve personally in France in 1201, but his fine was remitted. On 1 April 1207 he witnessed a charter of the King at Montfort-sur-Risle, and he appears to have been with John at Bonport in July following.(b) On the loss of Normandy in 12o4. Roger adhered to John and forfeited his Norman lands. In 1205 he landed at Dieppe, and being captured by John de Rouvray, bailiff of Caux, was compelled to pay a ransom of 1,000 marks. He was in England again by June 1207, when he was directed to hand Knighton Castle to the custody of a successor; in that year his wife Isabel had a grant of Oakham for life. In 1210 some of his knights served in the King's invasion of Ireland. In 1212 he proffered 3,000 marks for the marriage of the heir of Walter de Beauchamp, to whom he married his daughter Joan. In May 1213 he was one of the sponsors for John's good faith in his reconciliation with Archbishop Langton at the command of the Pope.

He married Isabel, daughter of Walkelin DE FERRI�RES, seigneur of Ferri�res-Saint-Hilaire and lord of Oakham. He died before 19 August 1214, having, with the King's permission, resigned his lands to his son Hugh when he was taken ill, and was at buried at Wigmore. His widow Isabel married, 2ndly, Piers FITZHERBERT, of Blaen Llyfni, who died 1 June 1235. She retained her father's English lands till her death. She died before 29 April 1252, and was buried in the chapel which she had built in the court of the Hospital of St. John of Lechlade. [Complete Peerage IX:272-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: CP doesn't mention a prior wife, but Dave Utzinger states she was Milicent de Ferrers in a post to SGM.

Roger de Mortimer, Lord of Wigmore, a feudal baron who, like his predecessors, was in constant strife with the Welsh. At one time he sustained a great defeat in conjunction with Hugh de Say, but in the end he was victorious and took twelve of their principal leaders in one battle. He also enlarged considerably his territories and drove thieves and robbers from those pars. Being at one time present at the solemn anniversary of his father, he confirmed all his grants to the canons of Wigmore, adding, of his own gift, a spacious and fruitful pasture lying adjacent to the abbey, called the Treasure of Mortimer, upon which occasion, his steward remonstrating with him for parting with so valuable a treasure, he replied, "I have laid up my treasure in that field, where thieves cannot steal or dig, or moth corrupt." This Roger m. Millicent, dau. of --- Ferrers, Earl of Derby, and had issue, Hugh, his successor, and two daus., the elder m. to Stephen le Gross, the younger to Walcheline de Beauchamp. He m. 2ndly, Isabel, sister and heir of Hugh de Ferrers, of Oakham, in Rutlandshire, and of Lechelade and Lagebury in Gloucestershire. All which lands he inherited upon the death of the said Hugh de Ferrers, and by that lady he had three sons, Ralph, Robert, and Philip. He d. in 1215, and was s. by his eldest son, Hugh de Mortimer. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 383, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

Sources:

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 132c-28, 262-29 Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Dave Utzinger (UTZ), 1 Jul 1998 Text: husband of Millicent de Ferrers Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:272-3 Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Dave Utzinger (UTZ), 1 Jul 1998 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 132c-28 Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:272-3 Text: no date, 1st husb. (no mention of prior wife for Roger)

Roger De Mortimer Father: Hugh De Mortimer b: Abt 1125 in Chelmarsh, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England Mother: Maud De Meschines b: Abt 1131 in Skipton-In-Craven, Yorkshire, England. Maud is daughter of William De Meschines b: Abt 1103 in St Pierre & Runstone, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales . William wife Cecily De Rumilly

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HUGH DE MORTIMER, son and heir [of Ralph]. Hugh de Mortimer attested a charter by Gerold, Abbot of St. Lucien at Beauvais [1100-28], in the time of Stephen, Count of Aumale. When King Stephen, circa 1140, granted to the Earl of Leicester the town and castle of Hereford et lotum comitatum Herefordisc., the fees of Hugh de Mortimer were with others excepted. In 1144 he initiated the reconquest of the Marches after the revolt of the Welsh on the death of Henry I, by successfully reoccupying the cantreds of Maelienydd and Elfael, and repairing the castles of Cwmaron and Colwen. In 1145 he captured and imprisoned the Welsh prince Rhys ap Howel, and in 1146 he slew Meredith, son of Madog ap Idnerth, late chieftain of Elfael and Maelienydd. In 1148 he blinded his prisoner Rhys ap Howel. The name of his wife is unknown. He seems to have died in the period 1148-50. [Complete Peerage IX:268-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Hugh de Mortimer, being a person of a proud and turbulent spirit, opposed strenuously the accession of King Henry II upon the demise of Stephen, and induced Roger, Earl of Hereford, to fortify his castles of Gloucester and Hereford against the new monarch, himself doing the same with his castles of Cleobury, Wigmore, and Brugges (commonly called Bridgenorth). Whereupon Gilbert Foliot, at that time Bishop of Hereford, addressing himself to the Earl of Hereford, his kinsman, by fair persuasions soon brought him to peaceable submission. But Mortimer continuing obstinate, the king was forced to raise an army and, at the point of the sword, to being him to obedience. Between this rude baron and Joceas de Dynant, at that time Lord of Ludlow, existed a feud, carried to so fierce a pitch that Dynant could not pass safely out of his castle for fear of being taken by Mortimer's men, but it so happened that Mortimer, setting his spies to take all advantages of Dynant, was surprised himself and carried prisoner to Ludlow where he was detained until he paid a ransom of 3,000 marks of silver. He was oftentimes engaged against the Welsh and he erected some strong castles in Wales. He likewise finished the foundation of the abbey of Wigmore, begun by his father, and in his old age became a canon of that house. He m. and had issue, Roger, his successor; Hugh, who m. Felicia de Sancto Sydonio, and had, by her, by gift of his father, the manors of Sudbury and Chelmers; Ralph; and William. He d. in 1188 and was s. by his eldest son, Roger de Mortimer, Lord of Wigmore. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 383, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

HUGH DE MORTIMER, brother and heir [of Roger]. When Henry, Duke of Normandy (Henry II), made promises of great grants to Ranulph, Earl of Chester, in 1153, the fees of Hugh de Mortimer (and those of others) in Staffordshire were excepted. On succeeding to the throne in December 1154 Henry required from Mortimer Bridgnorth Castle, which had been in his hands for many years; he refused to surrender it, whereupon the King proceeded in person first to Cleobury, which he took and destrioyed, 17 June 1155, and then to Bridgnorth, which was taken after several days' vigorous assault on 7 July. Some time before 1161 he or his father conceded to Foucarmont gifts made by Hugh and William de St. Germain. In 1167 he was fined �100 in Hants because he refused at the King's command to give up to one of his own knights certain animals taken in distraint when security was offered. He figures in the returns of knights' fees in Normandy of 1172 as owing service of 5 knights and holding himself 13 1/2 knights' fees. The foundation of Wigmore Abbey was completed before Hugh's death. He was also a benefactor to the Templars in Lincolnshire.

He married Maud, widow of Philip DE BELMEIS, daughter and coh. of William MESCHIN, of Skipton-in-Craven (brother of Ranulph I, Earl of Chester), by Cecily, daughter and heir of Robert DE ROMILLY. He died between Michaelmas 1180 and Michaelmas 1181. His widow was living in Richard I's reign. [Complete Peerage IX:270-2, XIV:488, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Hugh de Mortimer, being a person of a proud and turbulent spirit, opposed strenuously the accession of King Henry II upon the demise of Stephen, and induced Roger, Earl of Hereford, to fortify his castles of Gloucester and Hereford against the new monarch, himself doing the same with his castles of Cleobury, Wigmore, and Brugges (commonly called Bridgenorth). Whereupon Gilbert Foliot, at that time Bishop of Hereford, addressing himself to the Earl of Hereford, his kinsman, by fair persuasions soon brought him to peaceable submission. But Mortimer continuing obstinate, the king was forced to raise an army and, at the point of the sword, to being him to obedience. Between this rude baron and Joceas de Dynant, at that time Lord of Ludlow, existed a feud, carried to so fierce a pitch that Dynant could not pass safely out of his castle for fear of being taken by Mortimer's men, but it so happened that Mortimer, setting his spies to take all advantages of Dynant, was surprised himself and carried prisoner to Ludlow where he was detained until he paid a ransom of 3,000 marks of silver. He was oftentimes engaged against the Welsh and he erected some strong castles in Wales. He likewise finished the foundation of the abbey of Wigmore, begun by his father, and in his old age became a canon of that house. He m. and had issue, Roger, his successor; Hugh, who m. Felicia de Sancto Sydonio, and had, by her, by gift of his father, the manors of Sudbury and Chelmers; Ralph; and William. He d. in 1188 and was s. by his eldest son, Roger de Mortimer, Lord of Wigmore. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 383, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

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Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 132b-27, 132c-27 Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:270-2 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 132b-27, 132c-27 Text: 1180/1 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 132b-27, 132-27 Text: no date, 2nd husband Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:270-2 Text: no date, 2nd husb.

Hugh De Mortimer Father: Ralph De Mortimer Mother: Millicent Note:

Ralph de Mortimer, accompanying the Duke of Normandy in his expedition against England, was one of his principal commanders at the decisive battle of Hastings; and shortly after, as the most puissant of the victor's captains, was sent into the marches of Wales to encounter Edric, Earl of Shrewsbury, who still resisted the Norman yoke. This nobleman, after much difficulty, and a long siege in his castle of Wigmore, Mortimer subdued, and delivered into the king's hands. When, as a reward for his good service, he obtained a grant of all Edric's estates, and seated himself thenceforward at Wigmore. Independently of these great Welsh territorial possessions, Ralph Mortimer enjoyed by the bounty of his royal master sundry lordships and manors in other parts of the realm, which he held at the time of the General Survey. In the beginning of Rufus's reign, Mortimer took part with Curthose, but he subsequently changed sides, and being constituted general of the forces sent to oppose that prince in Normandy, by King Henry I., he totally routed the enemy, and brought Curthose prisoner to the king. He married Millicent ________, by whom he had issue: 1. Hugh de Mortimer, his successor. See above.

2. William de Mortimer, Lord of Chelmersh, and afterwards of Netherby.

3. Robert de Mortimer, ancestor of the Mortimers, of Richard's Castle, (presumed son of or brother of the 1st Hugh de Mortimer, shown as a brother above), married Margery Ferrers, only daughter and heiress of Hugh de Ferrers, and grand-daughter of Hugh de Say, Lord of Richard's Castle, co. Hereford, by which alliance he acquired that, and other considerable manors, and in the 12th year of Henry II. he certified his knight's fees of his honor to be in number twenty-three. In the 17th year of King John he had a grant from the king of all the lands in Berwick, in Sussex, which had belonged to Mabel de Say, mother of Margery, his wife, and then in the possession of Robert Marmion, the younger. He died about the year 1219, and was succeeded by his son, Hugh. 4. Hawise Mortimer, married Stephen, Earl of Albemarle. He was succeeded by his son, Hugh.

Ralph De Mortimer Father: Roger De Mortimer b: Abt 1058 in Saint-Victor-En-Caux, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France Death: Aft 5 Aug 1104 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England and Mother: Melisande or Mabel is the mother of his son Note:

Ref: Burke

Mortimer Line

The family of Mortemer derives its name from Mortemer (Mortuo-Mari) in Pays-de-Caux at the source of the Eaulne River. The castle of St. Victor-en-Caux was the chief barony of the family, which is said to have sprung from a marriage of Walter de St. Martin and a niece of the Duchess Gonnor. It was possessed by Roger de Mortemer in 1054, on which date he was one of the commanders of Duke William's forces at the battle of Mortemer. He sheltered in his castle, after the battle, his father-in-law, Raoul III. the Great, Comte de Valois and d'Amiens, by Oderic Vital called de Montdidier, one of the French commanders, until he was able to conduct him safely to his own territories three days later. For this reason Roger was banished by Duke William and his estates confiscated. He was later pardoned and his possessions returned with the exception of the castle of Mortemer, which the Duke had given to Roger's brother, William de Warren I. He contributed sixty vassals to the fleet of Duke William and it is generally conceded that he was too old to have been present at Senlac, although he made a donation to the abbey of St. Ouen in 1074 and died prior to the compilation of the General Survey. Wace mentions "Hue de Mortemer" as having taken part in the battle. Many commentators believe this to be an error, contending that Wace should have chronicled Roger or his son, Ralph, or both, because the only recorded Hugh was the son of Ralph and therefore too young to have participated in this event. There is no proof, however, that if not of this branch of the family, a Hugh could not have sprung from another. Eyton says, "There is evidence that Roger had two sons in addition to Ralph, namely, Hugh and William." Nevertheless, Ralph was certainly Roger's heir, and if the son of Hawisa, the only known wife of Roger, he must have been young at the time he attended the Conquest. He possessed at the compilation of Domesday 123 manors, in addition to the castle of Wigmore, in Herefordshire, which was the chief seat of his barony. In 1088 Ralph was opposed to William Rufus in favor of Robert Curthose (Courteheuse), but two years later, being pardoned, he accompanied Robert, Count of Eu, and Walter Giffard to Normandy, where they arrayed themselves against Duke Robert. In 1100 he founded the priory of Wigmore, at which time it was stated that Roger de Mortemer, descended from his family. Ralph, by his wife Millicent, had issue, Hugh, who succeeded him, William, to whom his brother gave Chelmarsh and who was ancestor of the Mortimers of Attleborough and Hawise, who married Stephen, Comte of Aumale. From this family descended the Lords of Wigmore, Earls of March, Lords Mortimer of Richard's Castle, etc. (Reference: Crispin & Macary, "Falaise Rolls").

1. Roger de Mortimer, the first of this name upon record is deemed by some to have been the son of William de Warren, and by others, of Walter de St. Martin, brother of that William. Which Roger was the founder of the abbey of St. Victor, in Normandy. "It is reported," says Dugdale, "that in the year 1054 (which was twelve years before the Norman Conquest), when Odo, brother of Henry, King of France, invaded the territory of Evreux, Duke William sent this Roger, then his general (with Robert, Earl of Ewe, and other stout soldiers), to resist his attempts; who meeting with Odo near to the castle of Mortimer, gave him battle, and obtained a glorious victory. It is further observable of this Roger, that he was by consanguity allied to the Norman duke (Afterwards King, by the name of William the Conqueror), his mother being niece to Gunnora, wife of Richard, Duke of Normandy, great grandmother to the Conqueror." The presumed son of this Roger, was Ralph de Mortimer.

Ralph de Mortimer, the presumed son of Roger de Mortimer, accompanying the Duke of Normandy in his expedition against England, was one of his principal commanders at the decisive battle of Hastings; and shortly after, as the most puissant of the victor's captains, was sent into the marches of Wales to encounter Edric, Earl of Shrewsbury, who still resisted the Norman yoke. This nobleman, after much difficulty and a long siege in his castle of Wigmore, Mortimer subdued and delivered into the king's hands, when, as a reward for his good service, he obtained a grant of all Edric's estates and seated himself thenceforward at Wigmore. Independently of these great Welsh territorial possessions, Ralph Mortimer enjoyed, by the bounty of his royal master, sundry lordships and manors in other parts of the realm which he held at the time of the general survey. In the beginning of Rufus' reign, Mortimer took part with Curthose, but he subsequently changed sides and, being constituted general of the forces sent by King Henry I to oppose that prince in Normandy, he totally routed the enemy and brought Curthose prisoner to the king. This gallant person m. Millicent, dau. of ---, by whom he had issue, Hugh, his successor; William, Lord of Chelmhersh, and afterwards of Netherby; Robert, ancestor of the Mortimers, of Richard's Castle; and Hawise, m. to Stephen, Earl of Albemarle. He was s. by his son, Hugh de Mortimer. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 382-3, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

Ralph had three children; a daughter named Hawise; Hugh,the elder son, who inherited the Lordship of Wigmore and later that of Ludlow, and established the powerful English political family of Mortimer; and William, the younger son, who founded the line of the Mortimers of Attleborough: It is, (I believe), from this line that the name of Mortimer was introduced into Scotland.

RALPH DE MORTIMER, son and heir [of Roger by Hawise], succeeded his father before 1086, when he appears in Domesday Book as tenant in chief in twelve counties. His possessions lay largely in Herefordshire and Shropshire, Wigmore in the former county being the caput of the honour. Both Wigmore and Cleobury, in Shropshire, had belonged to William FitzOsbern, Earl of Hereford, and the grant must therefore have been later than the forfeiture of William's son Roger in 1074. He attested a notification by William I between 1078 and 1087. On 30 March 1088 he witnessed a grant made by his man Ralph FitzAnser� to the abbey of Jumieg�s. In that year he, Bernard de Neufmarch�, and Roger de Lacy, at the head of a large body of English, Norman and Welsh fighting men, attacked Worcester with the avowed intention of burning the town and pillaging the church. The Bishop's men marched out and defeated them on the other side of the Severn. In 1089 he was one of the barons of Eastern Normandy who sided with William Rufus against Robert Curthose, but between 1091 and 1095 he is found (at Lisieux) witnessing with Duke Robert a charter for Jumi�ges. He made a grant to the monks of Worcester with the assent of his sons (unnamed) and his men. In 1104. he adhered to Henry I against Duke Robert. This is the last mention found of him, and the date of death is unknown.

He married, 1stly, Melisande, who was dead before 30 March 1088, and, 2ndly, Mabel (g). [Compete Peerage IX:267-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(g) Stephen, Count of Aumale, by a charter circa 1100, with the consent of Hawise his wife and of Ralph de Mortimer her father, granted the church of Airaines (Somme) of the inheritance of Ralph and Hawise to the priory of Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Paris, mentioning Melisande, Ralph's deceased wife. The charter of 30 Mar 1088 referred to above is subscribed 'Signum Radulfi Filii Rogeri Morte maris Signum Mabilie uxoris eius'. Hawise was clearly the daughter of Melisande; and as she must have been born before 1088, Melisande would be Ralph's first wife. William, brother of Hugh, witnesses his charter for Saint-Victor, but he occurs low in the list of witnesses and was probably illegitimate. There is no evidence as to which wife was mother of Hugh.

Note: It seems that most people on SGM assume that Hugh is the son by the 2nd wife.

Ralph de Mortimer, the presumed son of Roger de Mortimer, accompanying the Duke of Normandy in his expedition against England, was one of his principal commanders at the decisive battle of Hastings; and shortly after, as the most puissant of the victor's captains, was sent into the marches of Wales to encounter Edric, Earl of Shrewsbury, who still resisted the Norman yoke. This nobleman, after much difficulty and a long siege in his castle of Wigmore, Mortimer subdued and delivered into the king's hands, when, as a reward for his good service, he obtained a grant of all Edric's estates and seated himself thenceforward at Wigmore. Independently of these great Welsh territorial possessions, Ralph Mortimer enjoyed, by the bounty of his royal master, sundry lordships and manors in other parts of the realm which he held at the time of the general survey. In the beginning of Rufus' reign, Mortimer took part with Curthose, but he subsequently changed sides and, being constituted general of the forces sent by King Henry I to oppose that prince in Normandy, he totally routed the enemy and brought Curthose prisoner to the king. This gallant person m. Millicent, dau. of ---, by whom he had issue, Hugh, his successor; William, Lord of Chelmhersh, and afterwards of Netherby; Robert, ancestor of the Mortimers, of Richard's Castle; and Hawise, m. to Stephen, Earl of Albemarle. He was s. by his son, Hugh de Mortimer. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 382-3, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

Sources:

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 136-24 Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:267-8 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 136-24 Text: living 1104 Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:267-8

Roger De Mortimer Father: Roger De Warenne Or De Mortimer b: Abt 1030 in Mortemer-Sur-Eaulne, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France Death: Bef 1090 in Saint-Victor-En-Caux, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France Mother: Hawise De Valois

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Roger de Mortimer, deemed by some to have been son of William de Warren, and by others, of Walter de St. Martin [the version favoured by Ian Mortimer], brother of that William, was founder of the abbey of St. Victor, in Normandy. "It is reported," says Dugdale, "that in the year 1054 (which was twelve years before the Norman Conquest), when Odo, brother of Henry, King of France, invaded the territory of Evreux, Duke William sent this Roger, then his general (with Robert, Earl of Ewe, and other stout soldiers), to resist his attempts; who meeting with Odo near to the castle of Mortimer, gave him battle, and obtained a glorious victory. It is further observable of this Roger that he was by consanguinity allied to the Norman duke (afterwards king, by the name of William the Conqueror), his mother being niece to Gunnora, wife of Richard, Duke of Normandy, great grandmother to the Conqueror." The presumed son of this Roger, Ralph de Mortimer, accompanying the Duke of Normandy in his expedition against England, was one of his principal commanders at the decisive battle of Hastings. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 382, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March

ROGER DE MORTEMER, Seigneur of Mortemer-sur-Eaulne in Normandy, was one of the leaders of the Norman forces at the battle of Mortemer in 1054, but having assisted the escape of one of the French prisoner, Ralph, Count of Montdidier, to whom he had done homage, he was exiled and his lands confiscated. He was afterwards reconciled to Duke William and some of his lands were restored to him, though not Moretmer, which had been given to his consanguineus William de Warrene; Saint-Victor-en-Caux thereupon became the caput of the Norman honour of the family. He is said to have founded the abbey of Saint-Victor-en-Caux. He was living in 1078 or later, but was dead in 1086, when his son Ralph appears in Domesday Book. He married Hawise (c). [Complete Peerage IX:266-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] (c) Hawise and Ralph her son gave land in Mers in the diocese of Amiens to the abbey; in 1192 Theobald, Bishop of Amiens, confirmed this gift at Mers. The fact that Hawise held land at Mers in Le Vimeu explains the homage done by Roger de Mortimer to Ralph, Count of Montdider, and suggests that the marriage was earlier than 1054, the date of the battle of Mortemer. Since Hawise and her son join in this gift, she appears to have survived her husband.

Curt Hofemann, [email protected], provided the following information in a post-em: Roger de Mortimer birth: before 990 [Ref: Tucker] (needs coroboration...Curt) died: living 1078 dead in 1086 [Ref: CP IX:266] (which makes born bef 990 improbable...Curt) Seigneur of Mortemer-sur-Eaulne, near Neuchatel-en-Brai [Early Yorkshire Families by Charles Clay, Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1973 p62] occurs as a witness to a charter for Saint Wandrille sometime between 1040 and 1053 [Ref: Keats-Rohan p22] founded the abbey of Saint-Victor-en-Caux [Ref: CP IX:266] called "Roger filius episcopi" Brother Ralph, als called "filius episcopi" was founder of the house of Warenne [Ref: DNB v39 p130] first to assume the name of Mortimer, which was taken from the village and castle of Mortemer-en-Brai (mortuum mare) in the Pays de Caux, situated at the source of the little river Eaulne [Ref: DNB v39 p130] 1054: won the victory of Mortemer, fought under the walls of his castle, against the troops of Henry I, King of the French. But Roger gave offence to Duke William by releasing one of his captives, and was accordingly deprived of his castle of Mortemer, which was transferred to his nephew, William de Warenne, son of his brother Ralph (afterward first Earl of Surrey) [Ref: DNB v39 p130] 1054: punished for what Orderic represents as an honourable treason by the loss of some of his lands, though most were susequently restored to him. Those that were not were centered on Bellencombe, which is 13 miles south of the place from which the Warenne family was named [Ref: Keats-Rohan p23] 1054: lands lost were regranted to his 'consanguieus' William de Warenne [Ref: KeatsRohan p23] transferred the family chief seat to Sait-Victor-en-Caux [Ref: DNB v39 p130] 1074: priory of Caux, a cell of Saint-Ouen at Rouen, was erected into an abbey [Ref: DNB v39 p130] probably too old to have been present at Hastings, but some of his sons, perhaps Hugh or possibly Ralph appeared on his behalf [Ref: DNB v39 p130] Seigneur of Mortemer-sur-Eauline, in Normandy. He was probably born before 990. He was the first to take the name Mortimer, which was taken from the village and castle of Mortemer-en-Brai (mortuum mare), in the Pays de Caux, situated at the source of the little river Eaulne (Eauline). In 1054 he won the victory of Mortemer, fought under the walls of his castle, against the troops of Henry I, King of the French. He offended William and was deprived of his castle of Mortemer, which was transferred to his nephew William de Warenne. The Mortimers transferred their chief seat to Saint-Victor-en Caux, where the priory, a cell of Saint-Wuen of Rouen, was 1074 erected into abbey by Roger and his wife Hawise. [Ref: Tucker] The family of Mortemer derives its name from Mortemer (Mortuo-Mari) in Pays-de-Caux at the source of the Eaulne River. The castle of St. Victor-en-Caux was the chief barony of the family, which is said to have sprung from a marriage of Walter de St. Martin and a niece of the Duchess Gonnor. It was possessed by Roger de Mortemer in 1054, on which date he was one of the commanders of Duke William's forces at the battle of Mortemer. He sheltered in his castle, after the battle, his father-in-law, Raoul III. the Great, Comte de Valois and d'Amiens, by Oderic Vital called de Montdidier, one of the French commanders, until he was able to conduct him safely to his own territories three days later. For this reason Roger was banished by Duke William and his estates confiscated. He was later pardoned and his possessions returned with the exception of the castle of Mortemer, which the Duke had given to Roger's brother, William de Warren I. He contributed sixty vassals to the fleet of Duke William and it is generally conceded that he was too old to have been present at Senlac, although he made a donation to the abbey of St. Ouen in 1074 and died prior to the compilation of the General Survey. [Ref: McBide2 The Ancestors of Homer Beers James citing: Crispin & Macary, "Falaise Rolls"] Tucker = Aristocratic and Royal Ancestry of Jane Harry, by Leslie Ray Tucker, Jan 1991, Timbercreek Ltd., Miami, OK (caveat emptor: contains numerous errors) Keats-Rohan = Poppa of Bayeux and her Family, by K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, July 1997 Regards, Curt --------------------- Roger de Mortimer, deemed by some to have been son of William de Warren, and by others, of Walter de St. Martin, brother of that William, was founder of the abbey of St. Victor, in Normandy. "It is reported," says Dugdale, "that in the year 1054 (which was twelve years before the Norman Conquest), when Odo, brother of Henry, King of France, invaded the territory of Evreux, Duke William sent this Roger, then his general (with Robert, Earl of Ewe, and other stout soldiers), to resist his attempts; who meeting with Odo near to the castle of Mortimer, gave him battle, and obtained a glorious victory. It is further observable of this Roger that he was by consanguinity allied to the Norman duke (afterwards king, by the name of William the Conqueror), his mother being niece to Gunnora, wife of Richard, Duke of Normandy, great grandmother to the Conqueror." The presumed son of this Roger, Ralph de Mortimer, accompanying the Duke of Normandy in his expedition against England, was one of his principal commanders at the decisive battle of Hastings. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 382, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

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Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: XII/1:493 Text: kinsman of William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey. I have Roger as his uncle. Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Todd A. Farmerie, 3 Dec 1996 Text: son of Ranolph I de Warenne by Beatrice, brother of Ranoph II who was father of William de Warenne. Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:266-7 Text: no parents given Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:266-7 Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: IX:267 note (c)

Roger De Warenne Or De Mortimer Father: Rodulf De Warenne b: Abt 998 in Varenne Near Bellencombre, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France Mother: Beatrice De Vascoeuil b: Abt 1004 in Vascoeuil, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France

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Rodulf (Ralph) de Warenne b. c998; liv 1074; m. (1) Beatrix (granddau. of Herbastus de Crepon, Forester of Arques whose dau.Gunnora de Crepon b. c936; d. c1027 or 1031, France m. c978 .Richard I "the Fearless," Duke of Normandy).

RODULF (e) DE WARENNE derived his name from the hamlet of Varenne (dept. Seine-Inf�rieure) on the little river Varenne in Normandy. His parentage is unknown. He is said to have held land outside the walls of Rouen under Robert I, Duke of Normandy (died 1035), and the Cartulary of the abbey of the Holy Trinity on the Mont de Rouen proves that he held a considerable territory on both banks of the Seine upstream from Rouen. He also held land at Vascoeuil (dept. Eure), which he gave about 1053 to the abbey of St. Pierre de Pr�aux (b), and in the pays de Caux, north of Rouen, where he sold 4 churches with tithes to the Holy Trinity in 1059, and gave another church, also with tithes, in 1074. He married Beatrice, whose mother was almost certainly a sister of Gotmund Rufus DE VASCOEUIL, daughter of Tesselin, Vicomte of Rouen. She was living about 1053. [Complete Peerage XII/1:491-2, XIV:603, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(e) His christian name is Latinised both as Rodulfus and as Radulfus (Ralph), This confusion occurs in other families (eg. the founder of the "Tancarvilles") and is probably due to two somewhat similar names having been assimilated into one; eg. Ranulf (from Hrabenwulf) and Randolf (from Randwulf). Scribes were then likely to change Rodulfus when copying early charters.

(b) Before May 1055 Rodulf sold to the monks land at Blosseville and Eauplet, on the right bank of the Seine, and Sotteville on the left bank. Subsequently he sold them all his rights in Blosseville, Mesnil-Esnard, Neuvillette, Lescure and Eauplet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ [From "The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families"] For this identification see Mr. Loyd's paper 'The Origin of the Family of Warenne' in Yorkshire Arch. Journal, vol. xxxi, pp. 97-113. The hamlet of Varenne lies on the river Varenne c. 2 miles S of Arques and c. 13 miles N of Bellencombre. The latter place, arr. Dieppe, cant. Bellencombre, where there was a castle, became the caput of the Warenne honour in Normandy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Curt Hofemann, [email protected], provided the following additional information on Rodulf, in a post-em: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Rodulf (Ralph) I de Warenne

K.S.B. Keats-Rohan "Poppa of Bayeux and her Family":

1027-35: first occurrence of Ralph de Warenne in a charter for Saint-Amand [p22]

c1050: grant of land in Vascoeuil by Ralph de Warenne and wife Beatrice; charter mentions Ralph's brother Godfrey and was attested by Gotmund miles abbatis. Dateable to c1050 by a reference to Roger de Beaumont as Vicomte of Rouen [p22]

1050's: well known charters of early 1050s by which Ralph de Warenne and his wife Beatrice were associated with the lands of Roger fitz Bishop Hugh of Coutances and his sons. [p23]

Research note: K-R p22 contradicts CP (& Holloway & Wagner) by stating Rodulph/Ralph died before Beatrice. Beatrice is listed as living 1053 (CP XII/1:492 & ES III:698) & dead before 1059 (CP XII/1:492, K-R p22, Moriarty p184, Wagner p46]. K-R states a grant "made by widow Beatrice" to Preaux of land near Dozule, Eure was "dated during the time of William son of Count Robert, suggesting that William had not yet begun the series of military achievements that enabled him to be detached from his father in such references, i.e. before c1054-60". To do: check CP's source of the 1074 grant. Also is the term "widow" K-R's or stated in the grant of the land near Dozule?... Curt

Regards, Curt

Sources:

Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000 Page: XII/1:491-492 Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Page: Todd A. Farmerie, 3 Dec 1996 Title: The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, by Lewis C Loyd, 1999 Page: 111 Text: location only - no dates

DE DESPENCER Family

Elizabeth DE DESPENCER died 13 Jul 1389 and was buried in St Botolph, Aldgate, London. She married Maurice the Valiant DE BERKELEY on Aug 1338. Elizabeth parents were: Hugh the younger LE DESPENCER Earl died 24 Nov 1326 in (hanged and quartered). He married Alainor/Eleanor DE CLARE on Aft. 14 Jun 1306 in Westminster Abbey. Wife Alainor /Eleanor DE CLARE born Oct 1292 in Caerphilly Castle; died 30 Jun1337. She was the daughter of Sir Gilbert de Clare and Joan Plantagenet.

Note:

17. Despencer Line (Earl of Winchester) Ref: Burke, pg. 165-167.

Hugh and Eleanor had the following children:

1. Hugh Despencer, the successor, married Elizabeth Badlesmere, widow of Giles de Badlesmere, but d.s.p. in 1349, when the barony expired, but his lands devolved upon his nephew, Edward.

2. Edward Despencer, married Anne Ferrers, sister of Henry, Lord Ferrers, of Groby, and dying in 1342, left an only son, Edward. He succeeded his uncle, Hugh. He married Elizabeth Burghersh, daughter and heiress of Bartholomew de Burghersh, Baron Burghersh, and had issue:

1. Thomas Despencer, married Constance Plantaganet, daughter of Edmund Plantaganet, surnamed De Langley, Duke of York, 5th son of King Edward III.

2. Hugh Despencer, died in 1424.

3. Cicely Despencer, who died young.

4. Elizabeth Despencer, married (1) John Fitz Alan, of Arundel, and (2) Hugh Zouch, Lord Zouch.

5. Anne Despencer, married Hugh Hastings, and afterwards to Thomas Morley, Lord Morley.

6. Margaret Despencer, married Robert Ferrers, Lord Ferrers of Chartley. 3. Gilbert Despencer, of Melton Mowbray.

4. Philip Despencer, married Margaret Gousell, and died in 1313.

5. Elizabeth Despencer, married Maurice de Berkeley. See the continuation of this lineage in the Berkeley Line in Volume II.

6. Isabel Despencer was the 1st wife of Richard Fitz Alan, Earl of Arundel, who later married (2) Eleanor Plantaganet. See the continuation of this lineage in the Fitz Alan Line in Volume II.

These biographies have been snitched wholesale from The Dictionary of National Biography "founded in 1882 by George Smith, edited by Sir Leslie Stephen and Sir Sidney Lee," published since 1917 by the Oxford University Press.

HUGH LE DESPENSER, the Younger Earl of Winchester, b c1285/1290 - d Nov 1326 Hereford, England

Hugh le Despenser baron, son of Hugh le Despenser the elder [q. v.], received knighthood with the Prince of Wales at Easter 1306, and about 1309 married Eleanor, daughter of Gilbert of Clare, earl of Gloucester, and sister and co-heiress of the next Earl Gilbert.

When Edward left London on 2 Oct. 1326, Despenser accompanied him to Gloucester and the other places whither he fled, arriving at Cardiff on the 27th. While there the fugitives made an attempt to reach Lundy; it failed, and they sought refuge in the Despensers' castles at Caerphilly and Neath. The queen made her quarters at Hereford and sent William de la Zouche and Rhys ap Howel to take them. They surrendered, perhaps were surprised, at Llantrissaint on 16 Nov. and were brought to Hereford by Henry of Lancaster (a full itinerary of their flight, as far as it can be made out, will be found in the Introduction to Chronicles of Edward I and Edward II, ii. xclv-vi). There on 24 Nov. Despenser was brought to trial, before William Trussel, the earl of Lancaster, and other nobles, men who hated him bitterly. Among the various charges brought against him were his piracy during his exile, and his share in the death of Thomas, earl of Lancaster. He was condemned and was forthwith put to death as a traitor. He suffered with great patience, asking forgiveness of the bystanders. His head was sent to London and fixed on London Bridge; his quarters were distributed among four other towns. He left, besides other children, his eldest son Hugh, who was summoned to parliament in 1338, and died without issue in 1349; and Edward, who died in 1342, leaving a son, Edward Despenser, who married Elizabeth, daughter of Bartholomew, lord Burghersh. This Edward le Despenser was present at the battle of Poitiers, France. and took part in other campaigns in France. He accompanied the Duke of Clarence and distinguished himself in the service Urban V (Cont. Murimuth, 207). He was summoned to parliament in 1357, was a knight of the Garter, and died 1375, leaving a son, Thomas le Despenser, created Earl of Gloucester [q. v.], and daughters.

Hugh le Despenser ("The Younger Despenser"), 1st Lord (Baron) le Despenser of the 29 July 1314 creation, KB, associated with his father in the period of ascendancy over Edward II in the early 1320's but reckoned more deserving than his father of the hatred of the generality of the baronial class; convicted as a traitor and hanged 29 Nov 1326, when all his honours were forfeited. [Burke's Peerage] -------------------------------------------------------------- Sir Hugh le Despenser, hanged and quartered 24 Nov 1326, Lord Despenser; m. 1306 aft. 14 June, Alianore de Clare (34-5). [Magna Charta Sureties] -------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh and his father were favorites of King Edward II (a weak king) and helped him throw off the mastery of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster. Edward's reliance on the Despenser's drew the ire of his wife Isabel. She had become the mistress of Roger de Mortimer while on a diplomatic mission to France. In September 1326 the couple invaded England, executed the Despensers, and deposed Edward II in favor of his son, Edward III. Isabel was rumored to be involved in her husband Edward II's murder. See Encyclopedia Britannica, Edward II.

Sources:

Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 14-6, 28B-7, 34-5, 66-8, 80-7 Title: Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on Page: Edward II of England Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 8-30 Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 Page: 1030 Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 14-6 Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 14-6, 34-5

Hugh The Younger Le Despencer Father: Hugh Baron Le Despenser b: 1 Mar 1260-1261 in Winchester, Hampshire, England Mother: Isabel De Beauchamp b: Abt 1267 in Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England Annals and antiquities of the counties and county families of Wales ... By Thomas Nicholas

The Despencers.

Hugh le Despencer, temp. Edward II., had a son Hugh, who Eleanor, eldest sister of the last Gilben de Clare above named, and in her right became Lord of Glamorgan. Too ambitious of extending his territory, and favoured by the king, he came into conflict with De Breos, Lord of Gower, and other barons, among whom were De Bohun, Mortimer, Audley, Mowbray, Berkley, Seys, and Talbot, who took up arms, ravaged his lands in Morganwg, formed so large a confederacy among the barons of England and the Marches as to overpower the king, Despencer's protector, and obtain a sentence of deprivation and banishment against the obnoxious Despencer family. The Earl of Leicester, however, who was at their head, was defeated in the field, and the Despencers' prospects once more brightened. The young Hugh Despencer is said now to have procured from the king, in addition to his former lordship of Glamorgan (see Dugdale), the manors and castles of Swansea, Oystermouth, Pennard, and Loughor, in Gower, which he exchanged with Eleanor, wife of John de Burgh, for the manors and castles of Usk, Tre-grug, Caerleon, &c., in Monmouthshire. The ruins of his magnificence are still seen at Caerphilly (see Caer- philly Castle). Adversity, however, in time overcame both king and favourite, and (his father having already perished) Despencer lost his life on the scaffold, having been impeached before Parliament at Hereford A.d. 1326. His sentence was, "to be drawn upon a hurdle, with trumps and trumpets, throughout all the city of Hereford, and then to be hanged and quartered."

He left two sons, Hugh and Edward. The former became Lord of Glamorgan, having been received into favour by the new sovereign, Edward III., who bestowed upon him an extensive share of the possessions of his late father, which upon his impeachment had escheated to the Crown. In the lyth Edward III. he is styled Lord of Glamorgan, and on his death, six years subsequently, he was seised of the several manors and castles which had belonged to his father in Glamorganshire. He had m.Elizabeth, dau. of William Montacute, Earl of Salisbury, who afterwards married Guy de Breos, taking with her as her dower among other of their late husband's possessions in Glamorganshire, " the castle, town, and manor of Neath, the hamlets of Cilybebyll and Britton, the whole territory of Nedd, on both sides the river, the. castle, lordship, and town of Kenfig, the castle and manor of Llanblethian, and the castle, town, and manor of Talyvan.'' This Hugh Despencer dying without issue A.d. 1349, his other possessions passed to his brother Edward, who in turn was followed by his son,-

Edward Despencer, Lord of Glamorgan, whose wife was Elizabeth, dau. and heiress of Baron Burgherst. This was the Despencer who accompanied the Black Prince to France and fought at Poictiers (see p. 536). He died at Cardin" (Caerphilly Castle being probably no longer one of the family residences) A.d. 1375, and was buried at Tewkesbury Abbey, leaving his son Thomas as his successor in the lordship of Glamorgan.

They had the following children:

1 Hugh LE DESPENCER died 1349 in d.s.p; married Elizabeth de Montacute.

2 Edward LE DESPENCER Sir Knt born in (of) Buckland, Cty. Buckingham, England; died 30 Sep 1342 in Morlaix; married Anne de Ferrers 20 Apr 1335 in Groby, Cty. Leicester, England; died 8 Aug 1367.

3 Elizabeth DE DESPENCER died 13 Jul 1389; married Sir Maurice de Berkeley Aug 1338.

4 Philip SPENCER.

5 Isabel DESPENSER. born Abt. 1312; married Sir Richard FitzAlan 9 Feb 1320/21 in King's Chapel, Havering-atte-Bower; born Abt. 1313; died 24 Jan 1375/76.

6 Edward DESPENSER Lord.

Hugh the younger LE DESPENCER Earl Parent was: Hugh LE DESPENCER.

He had the following children:

1 Hugh the younger LE DESPENCER Earl died 1326.

2 Isabel DESPENCER Hugh The Younger Le Despencer Father: Hugh Baron Le Despenser b: 1 Mar 1260-1261 in Winchester, Hampshire, England Death: 27 Oct 1326 of Hanged. Mother: Isabel De Beauchamp b: Abt 1267 in Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England Dau of Father: William De Beauchamp b: Abt 1238-1342 William wife Maud Fitz John b: 1244-1250 in Shere, Surrey, England Note: 17. Despencer Line (Earl of Winchester) Ref: Burke, pg. 165-167.

Hugh Despencer, Senior. He married paid a fine of 2,000 marks for marrying, without license, Isabel Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, and widow of Patrick Chaworth; by this lady he had an only son, the celebrated Hugh Despencer, Junior. He died in 1265, slain fighting for Simon de Montfort at Evesham. 7. Hugh Despencer, Junior, was born in 1262, died in 1326. Earl of Winchester, he bore the same christian name as his father (d. 1265) and his son (d. 1326). In the 22nd year of the reign of King Edward I., he was made Governor of Oldham castle, co. Southampton, and the same year had summons to attend the king in Portsmouth, prepared with horse and arms for an expedition into Gascony. In two years afterwards he was at the battle of Dunbar, in Scotland, where the English arms triumphed; and the next year he was one of the commissioners accredited to treat of peace between the English monarch and kings of the Romans and of France. In the 26th and 28th years of Edward I. he was again engaged in the wars of Scotland, and was sent by his sovereign, with the Earl of Lincoln, to the papal court, to complain of the Scots, and to entreat that his holiness would no longer favor them, as they had abused his confidence by falsehoods. To the very close of King Edward I.'s reign his lordship seems to have enjoyed the favor of that great prince, and had summons to parliament from him from June 23, 1295, to March 14, 1322; but it was after the accession of Edward's unhappy son, the second of that name, that the Spencers attained that extraordinary eminence, from which, with their feeble-minded master, they were eventually hurled into the gulf of irretrievable ruin. In the first years of Edward II.'s reign, we find the father and son still engaged in the Scottish wars. In the 14th year the king, hearing of great animosities between the younger Spencer and Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex, and learning that they were collecting their followers in order to come to open combat, interfered, and strictly commanded Lord Hereford to forbear. About the same time, a dispute arising bestrewn the Earl of Hereford and John de Mowbray regarding some lands in Wales, young Spencer seized possession of the estate, and kept it from both the litigants. This conduct, and similar proceedings on the part of the elder Spencer, exciting the indignation of the barons, they formed a league against the favorites, and placing the king's cousin, Thomas Plantaganet, Earl of Lancaster, at their head, marched, with banners flying, from Sherbourne to St. Alban's, whence they dispatched the Bishops of Salisbury, Hereford, and Chichester, to the king with a demand that the Spencers should be banished; to which mission the king, however, giving an imperious reply in the negative, the irritated nobles continued their route to London; when Edward, at the instance of the queen, acquiesced; whereupon the barons summoned a parliament, in which the Spencers were banished from England; and the sentence was proclaimed in Westminster Hall. To this decision, Hugh the elder submitted and retired; but Hugh the younger lurked in divers places; sometimes on land, and sometimes at sea, and was fortunate enough to capture, during his exile, two vessels near Sandwich, laden with merchandise to the value of 40,000 pounds; after which, being recalled by the king, an army was raised, which encountered and defeated the baronial forces at Boroughbridge, in Yorkshire. In this action, wherein numbers were slain, the Earl of Pontefract, and there, after a summary trial (the elder Spencer being one of his judges), beheaded. The Spencers now became more powerful than ever, and the elder was immediately created Earl of Winchester, the king loading him with grants of forfeited estates. He was about the same time constituted warden of the king's forests on the south of Trent, the lands forfeited after the battle of Boroughbridge; but not satisfied with those, and they were incredibly numerous, he extorted by force whatsoever else he pleased. Amongst other acts of unlawful oppression, it is related that he seized upon the person of Elizabeth Comyn, a great heiress, the wife of Richard Talbot, in her house at Kennington, in Surrey, and detained her for twelve months in prison, until he compelled her to assign to him the manor of Painswike, in Gloucestershire, and the castle and manor of Goderich, in the marches of Wales; but this ill-obtained and ill-exercised power was not formed for permanent endurance, and a brief space only was necessary to bring it to termination. The queen and the young prince, who had fled to France, and had been proclaimed traitors through the influence of the Spencers, ascertaining the feelings of the people, ventured to return; and landed at Harwick, with the noblemen and persons of eminence who had been exiled after the defeat at Boroughbridge, raised the royal standard, and soon found themselves at the head of a considerable force; when, marching upon Bristol, where the king and his favorites then were, they were received in that city with acclimation, and the elder Spencer being seized (although in his 90th year), was brought in chains before the prince and the barons, and received judgment of death, which was accordingly executed, by hanging the culprit upon the gallows in the sight of the king and of his son, upon St. Dennis's day, in October, 1326. It is said by some writers that the body was hung up with two strong cords for four days, and then cut to pieces, and given to the dogs. Young Spencer, with the king, effected his escape; but they were both, soon afterwards, taken and delivered to the queen, when the unfortunate monarch was consigned to Berkeley Castle, where he was basely murdered in 1327. Hugh Spencer the Younger, it appears, was impeached before parliament, and received sentences "to be drawn upon a hurdle, with trumps and trumpets, throughout all the city of Hereford," and there to be hanged and quartered, which sentence was executed on a gallows 50 feet high, upon St. Andrew's eve, in the year 1326 (20th year of Edward II.) Thus terminated the career of two of the most celebrated royal favorites in the annals of England. The younger Hugh was a peer of the realm, as well as his father, having been summoned to parliament as a baron, from July 29, 1314, to October 10, 1325; but the two Baronies of Spencer, and the Earldom of Winchester, expired under the attainders of the father and son. Hugh the younger married Eleanor (Eleanora) Clare, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester, and his wife, Joane Plantaganet, who later married William Zouche,

Hugh Baron Le Despenser Father: Hugh Le Despenser b: 1223 in Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Mother: Aliva Basset, Daughter Of Philip

Note:

17. Despencer Line (Earl of Winchester) Ref: Burke, pg. 165-167.

Robert le Despencer appears to be the first person of this name in the records. In the 18th year of King William the Conqueror he was named as such from being the steward to the king. He was a witness to the royal charter for removing the secular canons out of the cathedral of Durham, and placing monks in their stead. This Robert was the brother of Urso de Abitot, then sheriff of Worcestershire, and he appears as well by his high official situation, as by the numerous lordships he possessed, to have been a person of great eminence; but it has not been ascertained whether he first came to England with his royal master, or whether he was of Saxon or Norman extraction; nor is it clearly known, whether he had ever been married or had issue. In the reign of Henry I. there was a William le Despencer, but whether he had the name from being son of Robert, or succeeded to the post of steward, cannot be determined. The next person we find holding this office, and in the same reign was Thurstan Dispencer.

1. Thurstan Dispencer

2. Almaric Despencer

3. Hugh Despencer

4. Son of Hugh ??

5. Hugh Despencer, grandson of Hugh. He married Aliva Basset daughter of Philip Basset, Lord Basset of Wycombe, co. Bucks, and afterwards she was the 1st wife of Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, but there were no children by this latter marriage. They had the following children:

1. Hugh Despencer, Senior.

2. Eleanor (Alianore) Despencer, married Hugh de Courtenay, father of Hugh, 1st Earl of Devonshire.

17. Despencer Line (Earl of Winchester)

HUGH LE DESPENSER: Three Generations

GAMAGE FAMILY

Matthew Herbert b: Abt 1525 in Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales and Mother: Mary Gamage b: in Coity, Pen-y-Bont Ar Ogwr, Morgannwg, Cymru

Mary Gamage Father: Thomas Gamage b: 1490 in Of Coety, Coety, Glamorganshire, Wales Mother: Margaret Saint John b: 1491 in Bletsoe, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England

Note Annals and antiquities of the counties and county families of Wales ... By Thomas Nicholass

Sir Thomas Gamage son of Morgan m first Margaret daughter of Sir John St Johnof Fonmon Castle, Glam., and Bletsor Park by a dau of Morgan Jenkin Philip of pencoed Castle, Mon Paternall descended from Gruffydd ap Bleddy, Lord of Cilsant; secondley, Joyce dau of Sir Richard Croft. By Margaret St, John, Sir Thomas had issue Robert John Edward Catherine m Sir Thomas Stradling of St Donat's Castle Mary m Matthew Herbert of Swansea and Cogan Phll Margaret m William Howard, Lord Howard of Effinghamd had issue Charles, Earl of Nottinghomas, commander against the Spanish Armand, Sir William Howard of Lingfiled and others She d 19th may 1581. Lord William Howard d 11th Januar 1872-3 Elizabeth m Richard Wogan Esq.of Wiston and Boulson co Pembroke secondly Jenkin Gwyn

Sir Thomas eldest son Robert Gamage

Marriage 1 Margaret Saint John b: 1491 in Bletsoe, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England, daughter of John Saint John b: in of Bletsoe and Keysoe, England John wife: Sibl or Margaret Ferch Morgan ap Jenkin

Note:

Repository: Name: Welsh Biography Online

Title: Dictionary of Welsh Biography down to 1940 Author: John Edward Lloyd & R T Jenkins Publication: 1957 Title: Y Bywgraffiadur Cymraig Hyd 1940 Publication: Anrhydeddus Gymdeithas y Cymmrodorion Title: Welsh Genealogies, AD 1400-1500 Author: Peter Clement Bartrum Publication: 18 Vols, Aberystwyth, 1983 Text: Peter Clement Bartrum, meteorologist and genealogist: born London 4 December 1907; died Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire 14 August 2008. Page: St John 1, p. 1567 Title: Pedigree of the ancient family of Dolau Cothi Author: John Rowland Publication: Carmarthen, William Spurrel, 1877

Children

1. Robert Gamage; 2. Edumnd Gamage ; 3. John Gamage ; 4. Morgan Gamage ; 5. Katherine Gamage ; 6. Mary Gamage b: in Coity, Pen-y-Bont Ar Ogwr, Morgannwg, Cymru ; 7. Margaret Gamage ; 8. Elizabeth Gamage;

Marriage 2 Joyce Croft � Married:

Marriage 3 Spernell � Married: mistress

Children 1. Ann Gamage Thomas Gamage Father: Morgan Gamage Mother: Elinor "Margred" Vaughan

Note

Note: The History and Antiquities of Glamorganshire and Its Families By Thomas Nicholas

John Gamage, of Coity, who �i�m. �/i�Margaret, dau. and co-h. of Morgan Llewellyn ap Evan ap Llewellyn, of Radir, and had a son and heir named Morgan, who by his wife Elinor, dau. of Sir Roger Vaughan, of Tretower �i�(Tre'rtwr), �/i�Bree.,

The Gamage arms, as given by Sir Robert Atkyns, are-�i�Arg., �-ce fusils in bend gu., on a chief az. three escallops or.�/i�

Sir Morgan Gamage. He married Eleanor, daughter of Sir Roger Vaughn of Tretower County (Brecon, Lord of Cantriff, Celiff, Penkelly, Merthn Cynoc, &c, and half brother to WilHam, Earl of Pembroke). Arms of Vaughn are said to be the same as Cadivor ; Argent, a lion, rampant; gardant, sable.

Morgan Gamage Father: John Gamage Mother: Margaret ferch Morgan b: in Radyr, Caerdydd, Morgannwg, Cymru

Notes

Annals and antiquities of the counties and county families of Wales ... By Thomas Nicholas John Gamage, of Coity, who m. Margaret, dau. and co-h. of Morgan Llewellyn ap Evan ap Llewellyn, of Radir, and had a son and heir named Morgan, who by his wife Elinor, dau. of Sir Roger Vaughan, of Tretower (Tre'rtwr), Bree., half-brother to William, Earl of Pembroke, had, besides his son and successor Thomas, six daus.,\emdash Elizabeth, who m. first John Stradling, and afterwards John Price of Glyn N�dd ; Margaret, m. first Jenkin Thomas of Llanfihangel, and secondly James Turberville of Llantwit Major ; Jane, m. Sir William Bawdrip of Penmark ; Ann, m. Robert Raglan of Llantwit ; Catherine, m. first Reginald Powell of Perth-hir, Monmouth; secondly William Stanton of Horningham, Wilts, by whom she had a son William and three daus. ; Gwenllian, m. Thomas ap Meurig.

Sources:

Title: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales Author: Thomas Nicholas Publication: London: Longmans, Green, Reeder, 1875 Page: II:567 Title: Dictionary of Welsh Biography down to 1940 Author: John Edward Lloyd & R T Jenkins Publication: 1957 Page: 1122 Title: Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 Author: Peter Clement Bartrum Publication: Aberystwyth. Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru / The National Library of Wales, 1983 Page: Gamage 1. Drymbenog 2(C1), P.461 Title: Y Bywgraffiadur Cymraig Hyd 1940 Publication: Anrhydeddus Gymdeithas y Cymmrodorion

John Gamage Father: Thomas Gamage b: in of Coity abd Rogiad Mother: Matilda Dennis

Notes

Annals and antiquities of the counties and county families of Wales ... By Thomas Nicholas Thomas Gamage, of Coity and Rogiad, who /�. Matilda, dau. of Sir John Dennis ; and a dau., Margaret, who m. Sir Richard de la Bere, of Weobly and Molton, in Gower, who received for services on the field of Cressy a crest, "five ostrich feathers issuing from a ducal coronet." Thomas Gamage was succeeded by his son\emdash Sir Thomas Gamage of Coity and Rogiett. He married Matilda. Sir Thomas dropped the "de" from the name. His successors are said to be "of Coity." [Descendants of John Gamage p 9

Sources:

Title: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales Author: Thomas Nicholas Publication: London: Longmans, Green, Reeder, 1875 Page: II:567 Repository: Title: Burke's Presidential Families of the USA, 1st Edit Author: Montgomery Page: 620 Title: Descendants of John Gamage Author: Arabella L G Morton Publication: 1906 Page: 9 Title: Dictionary of Welsh Biography down to 1940 Author: John Edward Lloyd & R T Jenkins Publication: 1957 Page: 1122 Title: Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 Author: Peter Clement Bartrum Publication: Aberystwyth. Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru / The National Library of Wales, 1983 Page: Gamage 1 Title: Y Bywgraffiadur Cymraig Hyd 1940 Publication: Anrhydeddus Gymdeithas y Cymmrodorion

Thomas Gamage Father: William de Gamage , Mother: Mary Radburgh

Notes

Annals and antiquities of the counties and county families of Wales ... By Thomas Nicholas

Gamage of Coity Castle.

In the section on " Antiquities," under Coity Castle, some account has already been given of this important family and their entrance upon that estate. The Gamages, before their settlement by marriage at Coity, were seated at Rogiad, or Roggiatt, in Monmouthshire. They were of Norman descent, but of later introduction into Wales than the age of Fitzha mon's conquest of Glamorgan. Godfrey de Gamaches, of the ville or castle of Gamaches, in Viscin, near Rouen, Normandy, received from Henry II., A.d. 1159, a grant of lands in Hottesdon, Salop, and from Richard I. land in Marnshall in the same county. He inherited also two knights' fees in the county of Hereford under the Lacys. He d. before 1176. His eldest son, Matthew, settled in Normandy, and his second son, William de Gamage, inherited the English estates of Mansel Gamage, county Hereford, Gamage Hall in Dimock, and other lands in the county of Gloucester. He was keeper of Ludlow Castle, and d. before A.d. 1240. From William descended Sir Pain de Gamage, Lord of Rogiad, Mon., and Sir Robert Gamage of the same place, whose eldest son was\emdash William Gamage, of Rogiad, who, as already shown, m. Sara, or Assar, dau. and -h. of Pain de Turberville of that place, whose ancestor had in the time of Fiuhamon, the dau. and h. of Morgan ap Meurig, of the line of lestyn ap Gwrgant. William Gamage was Sheriff of Gloucestershire A.d. 1325. Gilbert Gamage, son of William, was succeeded by his son, Sir William Gamage, who on the death of his kinsman, Sir Laurence Berkerolles of St. Athan's, succeeded to the lordship of Coity . He m. Mary, dau. of Sir Thomas Rodburgh, and had issue\emdash Sir William Gamage who succeeded to Coety, at the age of 30, on the death of Sir Laurence Berkerolles in 1411. He quit-claimed, on 20 Oct 1411, to John de Stradling, his rights to lands granted by Sir Laurence Berkerolles in Coety. The succession was not established without much bickering and litigation. In 1412 William Gamage was involved in an attempt to expel Joan Vernon by force from Coety castle. He d. in 1419, and in 1421 his lands were granted to the earl of Worcester during the minority of his heir, Thomas (aged 11 at his father's death) by Mary, daughter of Sir Thomas Rodborough. [Dictionary of Welsh Biography p1122] ...................................... Sir William de Gamage of Royiade. He obtained Coity Castle on the death of Sir Laurence Berkerolles of New Orchard, Lord of St Athan. He married Mary, daughter of Sir Thomas Radburgh. Their children were Sir Thomas, and Margaret, who married Sir Richard de Beere, who received as crest, for his services at Cressy. " Five ostrich feathers issuing from a ducal coronet." He lived to be very aged. By the inquisiton taken in 1419-20, it appears "Sir William Gamage, Knight, died seized of Coity Castle - two parts of the manor and lordship - of Glamorgan - Lanhany Manor, the Advourson of the church, Newland manor - Tenements in Coity, called Laurensland - Jordan Plance or Fairfield, Newcastle Hundreds, and manor. He took Seige from Glyndwr and in 1404 the commond prayed Henry IV to take steps for his relief. [Descendants of John Gamage p 9] ...................................... Sir William Gamage, the son of Gilbert, the son of Sir William Gamage, by Assar, the daughter of Sir Pain Turberville the third : and now as the possessions had thrice descended by distaff, that is, by the right of a daughter, the Royal Lordship of Coetty became alienated, and went as an escheat to Sir Richard Began, as the law required. But although property may, still prerogative cannot descend beyond three times successively by distaff; hence, the king is now Lord of the Court of Coetty, and is Supreme Governor of the county halls of justice; but the Gamages are the Lords of the Land; and to them appertain the possessions, and manorial supremacy of the estates. Still, as already stated, the king is Lord Paramount of the courts of justice and of the Seigniory. leuan Deulwyn says, in the book that he made relating to the Lords and Knights of Glamorgan, that it is unjust to call the Turberville a knight of spoliation, seeing that he married the daughter and heiress of Morgan, the son of Meyryg, the owner of Coetty, and thus obtained, by heirship, a rightful claim to the property and possession both in the sight of God and man ; and that it signifies not to what nation the person married belongs, if professing the Christian Faith; having received belief and baptism. The Turbervilles, in truth, continued very friendly to the Welsh, during the whole time that they possessed the seigniory and kingdom of Coetty, of which the Gamages were deprived in the time of Sir Richard Began, King of Glamorgan, as aforesaid ; but although they may still rightfully exercise authority in civil and criminal courts, yet they are not entitled to prerogatives in the National Assembly, except in cases of appeal, like all other freeborn natives; for superiority and legal supremacy can appertain only to the governing Lord of Glamorgan ; no one's voice being paramount to his. In the time of the last Earl of Clare, the royal authority ceased in the lineage of lestyn, in the territory of Aberavan ; because they avenged the murder of the Lord Llewellyn, the son of Griffith, of North Wales : but this seizure of government from the Neath and Avan family, was an act of national usurpation, their royalty being the last, in continuity, of any in Wales; and no Lordship, except that of Coetty, was entitled to a restrictive voice in their enactments. These two Lordships, in fact, remained the last in power, like rekindling brands, to preserve, as it were, from extinction the inherent rights of the Welsh race: but those rights we eventually lost, through our sins, by continuing to offend GOD, until vengeance and degradation deprived us of our power, claims, and rights of supreme prerogatives ; and now we retain, as a people, nothing beyond a mere name and our language ; but we ought to preserve the latter free from corruptions ; accustoming ourselves, through its medium, to all sciences, accomplishments, and beneficial institutions; so as to regain the approbation of the ALMIGHTY and the praise of men ; that, by such means, the Prophecy of the Bards may be fulfilled, which declares that "The Cambro-Britons shall yet regain their territory, their rights, and their crown, and still be the supreme nation of the Island of Britain; and so continue, while the world shall remain a world:" and let every one say Amen! so be it. [Iolo Manuscripts, A Selection of Ancient Welsh Manuscripts]

Sources: Title: Burke's Presidential Families of the USA, 1st Edit Author: Montgomery Page: 620 Title: Descendants of John Gamage Author: Arabella L G Morton Publication: 1906 Page: 9 Title: Dictionary of Welsh Biography down to 1940 Author: John Edward Lloyd & R T Jenkins Publication: 1957 Page: 1122 Title: Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 Author: Peter Clement Bartrum Publication: Aberystwyth. Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru / The National Library of Wales, 1983 Page: Gamage 1 Title: Iolo Manuscripts, A Selection of Ancient Welsh Manuscripts Author: Taliesin Williams (Ab Iolo) Publication: The Welsh MSS Society 1848 I. Foulkes, 18, Brunswick Street, Liverpoo

William de Gamage Father: Gibert de Gamage Mother: Lettice Seymour

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Sir Gilbert de Gamage of Royiade. He married Lettice, daughter of Sir William Seymour of Penbow. [Descendants of John Gamage, p 9] ____________________ Gilbert, son of William and Sarah, had licence to acquire the manor of Caldecote in Netherwent in 1381. When d. in the following year, custody of his heir was granted to the canons of Hereford. His widow, Lettice, daughter of Sir William Seymour, of Penhow, m. Maurice Bassett without the king's licence. They were pardoned in 1383. [Dictionary of Welsh Biography p1122]

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Title: Burke's Presidential Families of the USA, 1st Edit Author: Montgomery Page: 620 Title: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales Author: Thomas Nicholas Publication: London: Longmans, Green, Reeder, 1875 Page: II:567 Title: Dictionary of Welsh Biography down to 1940 Author: John Edward Lloyd & R T Jenkins Publication: 1957 Page: 1122 Title: Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 Author: Peter Clement Bartrum Publication: Aberystwyth. Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru / The National Library of Wales, 1983 Page: Gamage 1

Gibert de Gamage Father: William de Gamage b: Abt 1293 in Gloucestershire, England Mother: Sara Turberville b: Abt 1308 in Rogaid, Morgannwg, Cymru

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GAMAGE (TEULU), Coety , sir Forgannwg (D.W.B., 1121-3). Cymerodd y teulu ei gyfenw o dref Gamaches yn y Vexin Normanaidd, ond ni ellir profi i'r cyntaf o'r teulu ddyfod drosodd gyda'r Gorchfygwr. Daliai GODFREY DE GAMACHES (bu f. tua 1176), a fu'n nerthu Harri II yn 1154, ddwy ff� marchog o dan De Lacy (Bywg., 506) yn sir Henffordd, a chafodd faenor Stottesden, sir Amwythig, yn d�l gan y brenin yn 1159. Ymlynodd ei fab hynaf, MATHEW, wrth frenin Ffrainc yn 1204, a chafodd ei frawd iau, WILLIAM, yr ystad o gylch Mansel Gamages yn sir Henffordd. Drwy ffafr y brenin John, cafodd rai o diroedd si�d ei frawd yn Stottesden ac yn Dilwyn, sir Henffordd, a chadwraeth Castell Llwydlo yn 1224. Bu f. tua 1239-40. Yr oedd iddo fab GODFREY (a fu f. cyn 2 Hyd. 1253) o'i wraig Elisabeth de Burghull, a oedd yn fyw, fe ymddengys mor ddiweddar � 1304. Gadawodd ef dair merch. Priododd un ohonynt, Elisabeth Henry, de Pembridge, a bu iddynt hwythau fab, GODFREY, a oedd yn fyw yn 1267. Hwyrach iddo fabwysiadu enw ei fam. Ond nid dyna'r unig Gameisiaid ar ororau Cymru. Crybwyllir MATTHEW DE GAMAGES yn sir Henffordd yn 1242, 1264 a 1265, ac yr oedd un JOHN DE GAMAGE (bu f. 1306) yn abad eglwys S. Pedr, Caerloyw, ond yn barti yn 1303 i weithred a drosglwyddai gadwraeth rhai maenorau ac eglwysi ym Morgannwg i brior Ewenni dros daliad tuag at adeiladu dormitori yn yr abaty. Nid yw'r union gyswllt rhwng Gameisiaid Morgannwg a Gameisiaid y gororau yn glir, ond y mae tystiolaeth yr enwau bedydd yn pleidio cangen Mansel Gamages, a ddefnyddiai'r enwau Godfrey a Payn (Paganus). Y mae'r achyddwyr Cymreig yn olrhain Gameisiaid y Coety i GODFREY DE GAMAGES o Roggiett (Mynwy), y dywedir iddo briodi Joan ferch Richard de Clare (?Strongbow?, gweler o dan CLARE, (Teulu); Bywg., 1046). Priododd eu mab, PAGAN neu PAYN DE GAMAGE, Margaret ferch Roger de S. Pierre. Enwir ROBERT GAMAGE, mab Payn, yn arolwg Coed Gwent, 1271, fel yn meddiannu hawliau ei gyndadau yn Roggiett. Daliai Mansel Gamages hefyd. Yr oedd ROBERT DE GAMAGE yn ddeiliad rhydd i deulu Rodborough yn Roggiett yn 1334. Priododd ROBERT, mab Payn de Gamage, ferch ac aeres John Martel, arglwydd Llanfihangel Gwynll?g. Yr oedd eu mab WILLIAM GAMAGE, o Roggiett, yn siryf sir Gaerloyw yn 1325. Ei wraig ef oedd Sarah, pedwaredd ferch Syr Payn Twrbil, Coety, ac felly y crewyd y cysylltiad rhwng y teulu a'r faenor honno. Aeth y Coety yn y diwedd i feddiant disgynyddion Sarah Gamage, wedi i holl gyd-aeresau Syr Rhisiart Twrbil, brawd Syr Payn, farw allan. Cafodd GILBERT, mab William a Sarah, drwydded i feddiannu maenor Caldecote yng Ngwent Iscoed yn 1381. Pan fu f. yn y flwyddyn ganlynol, canoniaid Henffordd a gafodd ofal ei aer. Priododd ei weddw, Lettice, ferch Syr William Seymour, Pen-hw, Maurice Bassett, heb drwydded y brenin. Cawsant eu pardwn yn 1383. Ail fab Gilbert, (Syr) WILLIAM GAMAGE, ac yntau'n 30 oed, a etifeddodd y Coety ar farwolaeth Syr Laurence Berkerolles yn 1411. Trosglwyddodd ei hawl i dir yn y Coety, a roddwyd gan Syr Laurence Berkerolles, i John de Stradling, 20 Hyd. 1411. Bu cryn gweryla a chyfreithio dros yr etifeddiaeth. Yn 1412 cymerodd William Gamage ran mewn ymgais i orfodi Joan Vernon i adael Castell y Coety. Bu ef f. yn 1419 ac yn 1421 rhoddwyd ei diroedd i Iarll Caerwrangon dros gyfnod plentyndod ei aer (THOMAS, a oedd yn 11 oed pan fu f. ei dad), o'i wraig, Mary, ferch Syr Thomas Rodborough. Ni adawodd y Thomas hwn na'i fab JOHN o'i wraig Matilda, ferch Syr Gilbert Dennis, fawr ddim o'u h�l ar dudalennau hanes. Cymraes, Margaret ferch ac aeres Llywelyn ab Ieuan Llywelyn o Radyr oedd gwraig JOHN GAMAGE. Ni wyddys beth yn union oedd y berthynas rhwng dau gyfoeswr mwy adnabyddus ? RALPH, ystiward maenorau Esgob Lland�f yn 1440, a chrwner Morgannwg yn 1446, a Gilbert synysgal Ogwr, 1441, a theulu'r Coety. Priododd MORGAN, mab John Gamage, Eleanor ferch Syr Rhosier Fychan, Tre'r Twr (gw. VAUGHAN (Teulu) Tre'r Twr Bywg., 940). Gydag ef daw'r Gameisiaid i mewn i'r traddodiad barddol Cymreig. Derbyniai renti'r Coety yn 1488. Canodd Rhisiart ap Rhys ei farwnad. Urddwyd ei fab THOMAS GAMAGE yn farchog yn 1513. Canodd Rhisiart ap Rhys ddwywaith iddo cyn ei urddo, a Lewys Morgannwg (Bywg., 529) ar �l hynny. Dywedir iddo fod yn briod ddwywaith, (1) � Margaret ferch Syr John St. John, Bletsoe, mam ei blant, a (2) � Joyce ferch Syr Richard Croft. Yn 1516 yr oedd yn barti i weithred briodas ddwbl ar briodas ei fab JOHN � Jane Stradling, a'i ferch Catherine � Thomas Stradling. Bu f. John yn Llundain yn ystod bywyd ei rieni; canodd Lewys Morgannwg awdl a Thomas ab Ieuan ap Rhys gwndid ar yr achlysur. Yr oedd ei frawd h?n, ROBERT, ar gomisiwn i chwilio i feddiannau'r eglwysi yn 1553, ac ar y comisiwn i chwilio i achos marwolaeth William Mathew yn 1565. Bu'n ymgyfreithio am feddiant Castell y Coety. Joan ferch Philip Champernoun oedd ei wraig. Priododd eu mab hynaf JOHN Wenllian ferch Syr Thomas ap Jenkin Powel Tellet o Lyn Ogwr. Dichon mai ef oedd y John Gamage y mae ei enw ar r�l pardwn y Frenhines Elizabeth yn 1559, ac a gafodd bardwn eilwaith yn 1562. Y mae Rhys Lewis, yn ei Breviat of Glamorgan yn cyfeirio at Gastell Newydd (Pen y Bont) fel ?a pretie pile newly begun to be re-edified by John Gamadge, esq., that last was?. Bu f. yn 1584 a dilynwyd ef gan ei ferch BARBARA, aeres y bu cryn ymgiprys am ei llaw. Cythruddwyd yr Arglwydd Burghley am i Syr Edward Stradling (gw. STRADLING (Teulu) Bywg., 870) ei chymryd dan ei aden i Gastell Sain Dunwyd. Ar waethaf ei ymyriad priodwyd hi, 23 Medi, yn nh? Syr Stradling � Robert Sidney (crewyd yn Iarll Caerlyr yn 1618), yn nheulu yr hwn yr arhosodd ystad y Coety hyd ganol y ddeunawfed ganrif. Er i brif linach y Gameisiaid beidio gyda marw Barbara, iarlles Caerl?r, yn 1621, blodeuodd canghennau cyfreithlon ac anghyfreithlon am fwy na chanrif arall ym Morgannwg. Rhwng 1640 a 1780 profwyd tua 40 o ewyllysiau'r Gameisiaid yn Lland�f. Daeth y teuluoedd hyn yn drwyadl Gymreig. Ysgrifennodd WILLIAM GAMAGE (tua 1637-41) i annog William Herbert, Cogan Pill, i feistroli'r Gymraeg. Gadawodd EDWARD GAMAGE, rheithor Sain Tathan lawysgrif Gymraeg (Llanofer B.19). Cododd cainc a ddeilliai o Robert Gamage, Coety, mab Syr William Gamage, dylwyth arbennig o glerigwyr. Yr oedd ei ?yr JOHN GAMAGE (B.A.) yn rheithor Llansantffraid-ar-Ogwr, 1608-1646. Yr oedd iddo dri mab mewn urddau: THOMAS GAMAGE (B.A.), a'i dilynodd yn Llansantffraid, 1646-70, gan ddal y fywoliaeth gyda chymeradwyaeth y Werinlywodraeth; EDWARD (M.A.), rheithor Llangrallo, 1661-85, Llanbedr-y-Fro, 1668-85, ac archddiacon Lland�f; ac EDMUND (anghyfreithlon yn �l Clark) a drowyd allan o Lanhari, 1645. Yr oedd ei fab, Edmund, o'r Coety, yn rheithor Llangrallo, 1686-1705, a bu'n gohebu ag Edward Lhuyd. Yr oedd i Edward yr archddiacon hefyd dri mab mewn urddau: EDWARD GAMAGE (M.A.), rheithor Llansanffraid-ar-Ogwr, 1670-96, Nicholaston ac Oxwich, 1696-9; THOMAS GAMAGE (M.A.), rheithor Ubley, 1670, ficer Penbryn, Ceredigion, 1681, a Llangyfelach, 1681-1700, a rheithor Llanedi, 1682-1700; a FRANCIS GAMAGE (M.A.), rheithor Marcroes o 1681 a Thregolwyn, 1703-1729. Yr oedd i Francis fab, EDWARD GAMAGE (B.A.), rheithor Llanfair a Sain Tathan, 1717-1734. Ni wyddys beth oedd perthynas WILLIAM GAMAGE (B.A.), ficer Eglwysilan, 1614-1625, a ROBERT GAMAGE (B.A.), Llangynydd, 1662-1664. Awgryma'r Dr. Thomas Richards fod yr olaf yn perthyn i'r Edward Gamage a drowyd allan o Rosili ond a adferwyd yn 1660. Dilynwyd William Gamage yn Eglwysilan, gan NATHANIEL GAMAGE, 1625-1660, mab John Gamage o Langrallo a elwir yn ?pleb.? gan Foster. Difuddiwyd Nathaniel am ddiffyg pregethu, ond cafodd ei wobr yn 1660 drwy gyflwyniad brenhinol i'r Castellnewydd. Llyfryddiaeth:

R. W. Eyton, Shropshire, ii, 226-7, iv, 143-9; Testa de Nevill, ii, 1270; Curia Regis Roll, 74 (1220), 112; Calendarium Genealogicum; Excerpta e Rotulis Finium, ii, 172, 179, 186; Cal. Inquisitions, I Hen. II), 260; G. T. Clark, Limbus Patrum a Cartae; Bradney, Monmouthshire iv, 266; Misc. Gen. et Her., vii, 207-8 (lle y dywedir i Robert, fab Payne Gamage, briodi merch i Syr Thomas Beauchampe, a'i ddilyn gan dair cenhedlaeth o Williamiaid yn olynol); Foster, Alumni Oxon.; Stradling Correspondence; T. Richards, Hist. Pur. Mov. a Religious Developments (mynegeiau). Awdur: Evan David Jones, F.S.A., (1903-87), Aberystwyth ................................ GAMAGE family, of Coety (?Coity ?), Glam. The family took its surname from Gamaches in the Norman Vexin, but it cannot be proved that the first immigrant Gamage came over with the Conqueror. A Godfrey de Gamaches (d. c. 1176), who aided Henry II in 1154 held two knight's fees under the De Lacys (qq.v. on p. 539) in Herefordshire, and was rewarded by Henry in 1159 with the manor of Stottesden, Salop. His elder son, Matthew, adhered in 1204 to the French king, and the younger, William, got the Herefordshire estate, centred upon Mansel Gamages, and was favoured by John with parts of his brother's escheated lands at Stottesden and at Dillwyn (Herefs.); he had the custody of Ludlow castle in 1224. He d. c. 1239-40. By his wife, Elizabeth de Burghull, who seems to have been alive as late as 1304, he had a son, Godfrey, who d. before 2 Oct. 1253. Godfrey left three daughters, one of whom, Elizabeth, was given in marriage to Henry de Pembridge; they had a son, Godfrey, who was alive in 1267, and may have assumed his mother's name. But these were not the only Gamages on the Welsh Border. A ?Matthew de Gamages? of Herefordshire is heard of in 1242 and again in 1264 and 1265, and a John de Gamage (d. 1306) was abbot of S. Peter's, Gloucester, and was, in 1303, a party to a grant of the custody of some Glamorgan manors and churches to the prior of Ewenny, for a payment towards the erection of a dormitory at the abbey. The precise link between the Gamages of Glamorgan and those of the Marches has proved elusive, but the evidence of Christian names points strongly towards the Mansel Gamages branch in which the names Godfrey and Payn (Paganus) were in use. Welsh genealogists trace the Coety Gamages to GODFREY DE GAMAGES of Rogiet (Mon.), who is said to have m. Joan, daughter of Richard de Clare (Strongbow, q.v. under Clare). Their son, PAGAN or PAYN DE GAMAGE, m. Margaret, daughter of Roger de S. Pierre. ROBERT GAMAGE, son of Payn, is recorded in the 1271 survey of Wentwood as holding his ancestral rights at Rogiet. He also held Mansel Gamages. A Robert de Gamage was a free tenant of the Rodboroughs of Rogiet in 1334. Robert, son of Payn de Gamage, m. the daughter and heiress of John Martel, lord of Llanfihangel Rogiet. Their son, WILLIAM GAMAGE of Rogiet, was sheriff of Gloucestershire in 1325. He m. Sarah, fourth daughter of Payn Turberville, kt., of Coety, and thereby forged the link with that Glamorgan manor. By the extinction of the co-heirs of Sir Payn's brother, Sir Richard Turberville, Coety eventually fell to the descendants of Sarah Gamage. GILBERT, son of William and Sarah, had licence to acquire the manor of Caldecote in Netherwent in 1381. When he d. in the following year, custody of his heir was granted to the canons of Hereford. His widow, Lettice, daughter of Sir William Seymour, of Penhow, m. Maurice Bassett without the king's licence. They were pardoned in 1383. It was Gilbert's second son, (Sir) WILLIAM GAMAGE, who succeeded to Coety, at the age of 30, on the death of Sir Laurence Berkerolles in 1411. He quitclaimed, on 20 Oct. 1411, to John de Stradling, his right to lands granted by Sir Laurence Berkerolles in Coety. The succession was not established without much bickering and litigation. In 1412 William Gamage was involved in an attempt to expel Joan Vernon by force from Coety castle. He d. in 1419, and in 1421 his lands were granted to the earl of Worcester during the minority of his heir, Thomas (aged 11 at his father's death) by Mary, daughter of Sir Thomas Rodborough. THOMAS GAMAGE, who m. Matilda, daughter of Sir Gilbert Dennis, and their son, JOHN, have left little trace of their existence. The latter m. a Welsh heiress, Margaret, daughter of Llywelyn ap Ieuan Llywelyn of Radyr. The connections of two better-known contemporaries, Ralph, steward of the manors of the bishop of Llandaff in 1440 and coroner of Glamorgan in 1446, and Gilbert, seneschal of Ogmore, 1441, with the Coety family, are not known. John Gamage's son, MORGAN, m. Eleanor, daughter of Sir Roger Vaughan of Tretower (see p. 1,000). With him the Gamages are caught up by the Welsh bardic tradition. Morgan Gamage was receiving the issues of Coety in 1488; Rhisiart ap Rhys wrote an elegy upon his death. His son, THOMAS GAMAGE, was knighted in 1513. Rhisiart ap Rhys addressed two poems to him before that year, and Lewys Morgannwg (q.v. on p. 565) afterwards. He is said to have been twice m. (1) to Margaret, daughter of Sir John St. John of Bletsoe, the mother of his children and (2) Joyce, daughter of Sir Richard Croft. In 1516 he was a party to a double settlement on the marriage of his son, JOHN, with Jane Stradling and his daughter, Catherine, with Thomas Stradling. John d. in London during the lifetime of his parents; Lewys Morgannwg wrote an ode on the occasion, and Tomas ap Ieuan ap Rhys (q.v. on p. 975) a cwndid. His elder brother, ROBERT, was on a commission to search for church goods in 1553, and on the commission of enquiry into the death of William Mathew in 1556. He was involved in litigation for the possession of Coety castle. His wife was Joan, daughter of Philip Champernoun. Robert's elder son, JOHN, m. Gwenllian, daughter of Sir Thomas ap Jenkin Powel Tellet of Glyn Ogwr. He may have been the John Gamage entered on queen Elizabeth's pardon roll of 1559, and again pardoned in 1562. Rice Lewis, in the Breviat of Glamorgan, mentions Newcastle (Bridgend) as ?a pretie pile newly begun to be re-edified by John Gamadge, esq., that last was. He d. in 1584 and was succeeded by his daughter, BARBARA, an heiress of great attraction. Lord Burghley was annoyed because Sir Edward Stradling had taken her into his charge at S. Donats. In spite of his intervention she was m. in Stradling's house to Robert Sidney (created earl of Leicester, 1618), in whose family Coety remained until the middle of the 18th cent.

Though the main line of Gamages ceased with the death of Barbara, countess of Leicester, in 1621, collateral branches, legitimate and otherwise, flourished in Glamorgan for more than a century afterwards. Between 1640 and 1780 nearly forty Gamage wills were proved at Llandaff. These families became thoroughly Welsh. WILLIAM GAMAGE (c. 1637-41) wrote to William Herbert of Cogan Pill urging him to master the Welsh language. EDWARD GAMAGE, rector of S. Athan (d. 1734), left a Welsh manuscript (Llan. B.19). A junior branch derived from Robert Gamage of Coety, son of Sir William Gamage, produced a remarkable clan of parsons. His grandson, JOHN GAMAGE (B.A.), was rector of S. Brides Minor, 1608-1646. He had three sons in holy orders: THOMAS GAMAGE (B.A.), who followed him at S. Brides, 1646-1670, holding it with approval during the Commonwealth; EDWARD (M.A.), rector of Coychurch, 1661-1685, Peterston-super-Ely, 1668-85, and archdeacon of Llandaff; and EDMUND (illegitimate, according to Clark), the ejected parson of Llanharry, 1645. His son, also Edmund, of Coety, was rector of Coychurch, 1686-1705, and correspondent of Edward Lhuyd. Edward, the archdeacon, also had three sons in holy orders: EDWARD GAMAGE (M.A.), rector of S. Brides Minor, 1670-1696, Nicholaston and Oxwich, 1696-9; THOMAS GAMAGE (M.A.), rector of Ubley, 1670, vicar of Penbryn, Cards., 1681, and of Llangyfelach, 1681-1700, and rector of Llanedi, 1682-1700; and FRANCIS GAMAGE (M.A.), rector of Marcross from 1681, and of Colwinstone, 1703-29. This Francis had a son, EDWARD GAMAGE (B.A.), rector of S. Marychurch and of S. Athan, 1717-34. The exact positions in the Gamage genealogy of WILLIAM GAMAGE (B.A.), vicar of Eglwysilan, 1614-25, and of ROBERT GAMAGE (B.A.), vicar of Llangennith, 1662-4, are not known. Dr. Thomas Richards suggests that the latter was related to the Edward Gamage who was ejected for delinquency from Rhossilly and restored in 1660. William Gamage was succeeded at Eglwysilan by NATHANIEL GAMAGE, 1625-1660, son of John Gamage of Coychurch, styled ?pleb?. by Foster. Nathaniel was ejected for lack of preaching, but was rewarded, in 1660, by royal presentation to Newcastle.

Bibliography: R. W. Eyton, Shropshire, ii, 226-7, iv, 143-9; Testa de Nevill, ii, 1270; Curia Regis Roll, 74 (1220), 112; Calendarium Genealogicum; Excerpta e Rotulis Finium, ii, 172, 179, 186; Cal. Inquisitions, i (Hen. II), 260; G. T. Clark, Limbus Patrum and Cartae; Bradney, Monmouthshire, iv, 266; Misc. Gen. et Her., viii, 207-8 (where Robert, son of Payne Gamage, is said to have m. a daughter of Sir Thomas Beauchampe, and is succeeded by three generations of William Gamages); Foster, Alumni Oxon.; Stradling Correspondence; T. Richards, Hist. Pur. Mov. and Religious Developments (indexes). Author: Evan David Jones, F.S.A., (1903-87), Aberystwyth

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Title: Burke's Presidential Families of the USA, 1st Edit Author: Montgomery Page: 620 Title: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales Author: Thomas Nicholas Publication: London: Longmans, Green, Reeder, 1875

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Title: Battle Abbey Roll with Account of the Norman Lineages Author: Catherine Lucy Wilhelmina, Duchess of Cleveland Publication: 1889 Page: II:128 Title: Dictionary of Welsh Biography down to 1940 Author: John Edward Lloyd & R T Jenkins Publication: 1957 Page: 1121-2 Title: Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1400 Author: Peter Clement Bartrum Publication: 8 Vols. Cardiff, 1974, microfiche edition, 1980 Page: Turberville 1, p.922 Title: Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500 Author: Peter Clement Bartrum Publication: Aberystwyth. Llyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru / The National Library of Wales, 1983 Page: Gamage 1

George Herbert b: 1500 in Ewyas Harold, Hereford, Herefordshire, England, wife Elizabeth De Berkeley b Abt 1508 in Beverstone Castle, Tetbury, Gloucestershire,England. Elizabeth Father: Thomas De Berkeley b: Abt 1462 in Beverstone Castle, Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England Mother: Elizabeth De Neville b: Abt 1462 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales. Elizabeth de Neville Father: George De Neville b: 1461 ,Mother: Margaret Fenne

Notes for George De Neville

He was invested as a Knight on 4 May 1471 at Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England, by Edward IV. He succeeded to the title of 2nd Lord Abergavenny on 18 Oct 1476. On 12 Jan 1476/7 he had livery of the lands of his parents, but he never had seizin of Abergavenny

BARONY of ABERGAVENNY (IV) 1476 George Nevill, Lord Bergavenny, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir of Edward by Elizabeth Beachamp, b. at Raby Castle, and baptized at Staindrop, co. Durham. He was knighted at Tewkesbury, by Edward IV, 4 May 1471; was aged 36 and more in 1476. On 12 Jan 1476/7, he had livery of the lands of his parents, but he never had seizin of Abergavenny. He was one of the Barons at the coronation of Richard III. He was summoned to Parliament 15 Nov 1482 to 12 Aug 1492, by writs directed 'Georgio Nevyle de Bergevenny chr.'

He m. 1stly, Margaret, daughter and heir of Sir Hugh Fenne, of Sculton Burdeleys, Norfolk, and of Braintree, Essex, Treasurer of the Household to Henry VI. She d. 28 Sep 1485. He m. 2ndly, as her 4th husband, Elizabeth, widow of John Stokker, of St. George's Eastcheap, who d. Sep 1485 (will dated 23 Sep 1485, probated 12 Sep 1486), and before that, widow of Robert Basett, Lord Mayor of London (1475-6), who d. between 11 May and 27 Jul 1484, and before that widow of Richard Naylor, citizen of London, who was buried at St. Martin's, Outwich, London (will dated 18 July, and probated 22 Aug 1483). He d. 20 Sep 1492, and was buried at Lewes Priory, Sussex. Will dated 1 Jul 1491, probated 1492. She d. 1500, and was buried at St. Martin's Outwich, aforesaid. Will, in which she describes herself as Berghdenne, in the parish of Cartham, Kent, widow, dated 14 Apr 1500, probated 19 June following. [Complete Peerage I:30-31, XIV:6-7]

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Title: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant Author: Editor: G.E. Cokayne, with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden Publication: St. Catherine Press, 29 Great Queen St, Kingsway, W.C. 1959 Page: Vol I pp 19-44 Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, 2nd Edition Author: David Faris Publication: 1999 Page: 1st ed, pp 244-246 "Saint Leger" Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, 2nd Edition Author: David Faris Publication: 1999 Page: 1st ed, pp 244-246 "Saint Leger", pp 254-256, "Somerset" Text: no date

George De Neville Father: Edward De Neville b: 1417 in Raby, Co Durham Mother: Elizabeth De Beauchamp b: 1415. daughter of Richard De Beauchamp b: Bef 1397 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire Richard wife: Isabel Le Despencer b: 26 Jul 1400 in Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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he inherited her first wife family title. He cohabited with his second wife, Catherine, during the lifetime of his first, Elizabeth. He was created 1st Lord Abergavenny on 5 Sep 1450.

1st Lord Abergavenny. Acceded: 1438. K.G. Held Mereworth Manor, Mereworth Parish, Kent. Held Sapters/Sawtes Manor, Sutton-at-Hone, Kent through marriage to Elizabeth. Summoned as Baron Abergavenny (via his wife) "jure uxoris". -------------------- Edward Nevill(e), 1st Lord (Baron) Bergavenny or Neville de Bergavenny, so created by writ of summons 5 Sep 1450; granted license by Henry VI to take possession of the lands of Abergavenny but in possession of the castle at Abergavenny for only a short while; married 1st by 18 Oct 1424 Elizabeth Beauchamp, according to later doctrine Baroness Bergavenny or Beauchamp de Bergavenny in her own right, and had issue. The 1st Lord (Baron) Bergavenny married 2nd 15 Oct 1448 his 3rd cousin Catherine, daughter of Sir Robert Howard and sister of 1st Duke of Norfolk, and died 18 Oct 1476, having had further issue. [Burke's Peerage] -------------------- Sir Edward de Neville, KG, d. 18 Oct 1476, Lord Burgavenny; m. (1) bef. 18 Oct 1424 Elizabeth Beauchamp, b. 16 Sep 1415, d. 18 Jun 1448, only daughter of Richard de Beauchamp, KB, Lord Bergavenny, b. by 1397, being 14+ in June 1411, dsp in France 18 Mar 1421/2 (son of William Beauchamp, KG, Lord Bergavenny, and Joan Fitz Alan), and Isabel le Despenser, m. 27 July 1411, (daughter of Thomas le Despenser and Constance, daughter of Edmund, Duke of York). [Magna Charta Sureties]

Note: According to the above citation, Richard de Beauchamp, "dsp" in France 18 Mar 1421/2, but had an "only daughter"!? (I assume he was "dspm".) Also the Bergavenny spelling wins 2 to 1 over Burgavenny.

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Title: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant Author: Editor: G.E. Cokayne, with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden Publication: St. Catherine Press, 29 Great Queen St, Kingsway, W.C. 1959 Page: Vol I pp 19-44 Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, 2nd Edition Author: David Faris Publication: 1999 Page: 1st ed, pp 210-213 "Oxenbridge" Repository: Title: Collin's Peerage of England, Genealogical, Biographical, and Historical, Greatly Augmented, and Continued to the Present Author: Sir Egerton Brydges Publication: London: T. Bensley, 1812 Title: Pedigree of the ancient family of Dolau Cothi Author: John Rowland Publication: Carmarthen, William Spurrel, 1877 Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, 2nd Edition Author: David Faris Publication: 1999 Page: 1st ed, pp 286-289 "Wyatt", pp 235-237 "Randolph" Text: no date/place, his 2nd m

Edward De Neville Father: Ralph De Neville b: 1363 in Raby Castle, Durham, England Mother: Joan De Beaufort b: Abt 1379 in Chateau DE Beauf, Meuse-Et-Loire, France daughter of Father: John of Gaunt Plantagenet b: 1340 c: Mar 1340 in St Bavon's Abbey, Ghent, Flanders Mother: Katherine De Roet b: 1350

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The "Kingmaker's" grandfather, the 1st Earl of Westmorland settled about half the original Neville estates on the children of his second marriage, whereas the subsequent Earls of Westmorland were the product of his first. It thus came about that the 2nd-6th Earls of Westmorland were actually less well-endowed territorially than their ancestors who had been mere barons. The pre-eminence of that branch of the family represented by the Earls of Salisbury/Warwick, who stemmed from the second marriage, was made correspondingly easier.

The 1st Earl of Westmorland had multiplicity of children: nine by the first wife, fourteen by his second. Of his 23 in all, four were peers, three were duchesses and another four daughters the wives of lesser peers; moreover of those three duchesses one was mother of two kings. Between 1450 and 1455 no fewer than 13 members of the family had seats in the House of Lords. This very fecundity like that of Edward III, engendered quarrels. There was rivalry between the two branches of the family, which grew from a dispute about family estates into a difference as to dynastic loyalties. It thus served as an overture to the Wars of the Roses, one which was made even more ominous by a dispute between the Nevilles, represented by the 1st Marquess of Montagu and the Percys. [Burke's Peerage] --------------------------------------------------------------- Sir Ralph de Neville, KG, b. c 1346, d. Raby 21 Oct 1425, created 1st Earl of Westmorland 1397; m. (1) Margaret Stafford, d. 9 June 1396; m. (2) before 29 Nov 1396 Joan Beaufort, d. Howden 13 Nov 1440, widow of Robert Ferrers, daughter of John, Duke of Lancaster and Katharine (Roet) Swynford. [Magna Charta Sureties] --------------------------------------------------------------- Sixth Baron Neville of Raby, became a Knight of the Garter and 1st Earl Westmoreland September 29, 1397. As a Lancasterian, he opposed Richard II in 1399 and conveyed Richard's resignation to the convention. He assisted in the coronation of Henry IV and was a member of the council of regency appointed to rule in the infancy of King Henry V. With his second marriage to Joan Beaufort, a widowed daughter of John Of Gaunt, fourth son of Edward III, this favorably affected Joan and Ralph's wealth and social prestige, making possible brilliant marriages for their children. In 1450, five of Ralph's sons, five sons-in-law and several grandsons were in Parliament.

Held many offices, among them Constable of the Tower of London and in 1399, Marshall of England the year he was created Earl of Richmond. He was a member of Richards II's privy council, saw service at Agincourt on October 25, 1415 where Henry won a victory over the superior numbers of French owing to his superior generalship.

He married his first wife Margaret, daughter of Hugh, Earl of Stafford by special dispensation from Pope Urban V, because of their close relationship.

The marriage to Joan, his second wife, was a much more distinguished one as the line now descends through the royal house of England. summoned to Parliament from December 6, 1389 to November 30, 1396.

Some say he is the son of Elizabeth Latimer was created Earl of Westmorland by Richard II on 9-29-1397 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Ralph de Nevill, 4th baron, summoned to parliament from 6 December, 1389, to 30 November, 1396. This nobleman took a leading part in the political drama of his day and sustained it with more than ordinary ability. In the lifetime of his father (9th Richard II), he was joined with Thomas Clifford, son of Lord Clifford, and was appointed a commissionership for the guardianship of the West Marches. In three years after this he succeeded to the title, and in two years subsequently he was one of the commissioners appointed to treat with the Kings of France and Scotland, touching a truce made by them with the King of England. In the 21st Richard II [1378], he was made constable of the Tower of London and shortly afterwards advanced in full parliament to the dignity of Earl of Westmoreland. His lordship was of the privy council to King Richard and had much favour from that monarch, yet he was one of the most active in raising Henry, of Lancaster, to the throne as Henry IV, and was rewarded by the new king in the first year of his reign with a grant of the county and honour of Richmond for his life, and with the great office of Earl Marshal of England. Soon after this, he stoutly resisted the Earl of Northumberland in his rebellion and forced the Percies, who had advanced as far as Durham, to fall back upon Prudhoe, when the battle of Shrewsbury ensued, in which the gallant Hotspur sustained so signal a defeat, and closed his impetuous career. The earl was afterwards governor of the town and castle of Carlisle, warden of the West Marches towards Scotland, and governor of Roxborough. He was also a knight of the Garter. His lordship m. 1st, Lady Margaret Stafford, dau. of Hugh, Earl Stafford, K.G., for which marriage a dispensation was obtained from Pope Urban V, the earl and his bride being within the third and fourth degrees of consanguinity; by this lady he had issue, John, Lord Nevill; Ralph; Maud; Phillippa; Alice; Margaret; Anne; Margery; and Elizabeth. The earl m. 2ndly, Joan de Beaufort, dau. of John of Gaunt, by Katherine Swynford, and widow of Robert, Lord Ferrers, of Wem, by whom he had issue, Richard; William; George; Edward; Cuthbert; Henry; Thomas; Catherine; Eleanor; Anne; Jane; and Cicely. This great earl d. in 1425 and was s. by his grandson, Ralph Nevill, 5th Baron Nevill, of Raby. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, pp. 393-4, Nevill, Barons Nevill, of Raby, Earls of Westmoreland]

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Marriage 1 Margaret De Stafford b: Bef 1364 in Brancepeth, Durham, England �

Children

1. Philippa De Neville b: Abt 1380 in Raby, Durham, England; 2. Maud De Neville b: Abt 1383; 3. Alice De Neville b: 1384 in Raby Castle, Northumberland; 4. John De Neville b: 1387 in Raby, Durham, England; 5. Elizabeth De Neville b: Abt 1389; 6. Ralph De Neville b: Abt 1392 in Raby, Durham, England ; 7. Margaret De Neville b: Jun 1396 in Raby, Durham, England; 8. Anne De Neville; Marriage 2 Joan De Beaufort b: Abt 1379 in Chateau DE Beauf, Meuse-Et-Loire, France

Married: Bef 20 Feb 1397 in England

Children

1. Eleanor De Neville b: 1399 in Raby Castle, Durham, England; 2. Richard De Neville b: 1400 in Castle Raby, Durham, England; 3. Henry De Neville b: 1402; 4. Thomas De Neville b: Abt 1403 in Raby, Durham, England ; 5. Robert De Neville b: Abt 1408 in Raby, Durham, England; 6. William De Neville b: Abt 1409 in Raby, Durham, England 7. George De Neville b: Abt 1410 in Raby, Durham, England ; 8. Anne De Neville b: Abt 1411 in Westmoreland, England; 9. John De Neville b: 1413; 10. Cecily De Neville b: 31 May 1415 in Raby Castle, Co Durham 11. Edward De Neville b: 1417 in Raby, Co Durham ; 12. Cuthbert De Neville ; 13. Joan De Neville; 14. Katherine De Neville ; 15. Eleanor De Neville;\

Ralph De Neville Father: John De Neville b: Abt 1331 in Raby, Durham, England Mother: Maud De Percy b: Abt 1335 in Alnwick, Northampton, England, daughter of Henry De Percy b: 6 Feb 1300-1301 and his wife: Idoine De Clifford b: Abt 1303

Note: John de Neville, KG, Lord Neville of Raby, b. c 1331, d. Newcastle 17 Oct 1388, KG 1369; m. (1) Maud Percy, d. 18 Feb 1378/9. [Magna Charta Sureties] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- 5th Baron of Raby, , third Baron Neville. First Earl of Westmorland, died on the 42nd anniversary of the Battle of Neville's Cross. He was summoned to Parliament in 1368. In 1369, he was created a Knight of the Garter and Admiral of Fleet. He gave Durham Cathedral a beautiful stone and an alabaster screen known to this day as the "Neville Screen". John is buried at Durham Catherdral with his wife Maude. Summoned to parliament as Lord Nevill of Raby from February 24, 1368 to July 28, 1388. He was carried by his father at the age of five years to witness the battle of Durham. During the remainder of King Edwards reign he was in active service either in France or Scotland. He was constituted lieutenant of Aquitaine under Richard II and was seneschal of Bordeaux. He was employed against the Turks and won and had surrendered to him, 83 walled towns, castles and forts. He died at Newcastle on October 17, 1388 and is buried in the Neville chantry, in the south asile of the nave of Durham Cathedral, near his father and his first wife.

1381-warden of eastern marches; 1383-warden of western marches; 1386-appointed commander of all forces against the Scots. Took the place of Henry Percy, earl of Northumberland as military leader in the north.; -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Sir John de Nevill, 3rd baron, summoned to parliament as Lord Nevill, of Raby, from 24 February, 1368, to 28 July, 1388. This nobleman was carried by his father to witness the battle of Durham, being then scarcely five years old, and received the honour of knighthood some years afterwards when in arms before the barriers of Paris. In the 44th of the same reign [Edward III, 1371], he was again in the wars with France, and then constituted admiral of the king's fleet from the mouth of the Thames northwards. During the remainder of King Edward's reign, he was constantly in active service either in France or Scotland. In the 2nd Richard II [1379], he was constituted lieutenant of Aquitaine and he was, likewise, seneschal of Bordeaux. It is reported of this nobleman that he was some time employed against the Turks, and that, being lieutenant of Aquitaine, he reduced that province to tranquility, and that, in his service in those parts, he won and had rendered to him 83 walled towns, castles, and forts. His lordship was a knight of the Garter. He m. 1st, Maud, dau. of Henry, Lord Percy, by whom he had issue, Ralph, Thomas, Maud, Alice, and Eleanor. His lordship m. 2ndly, Elizabeth, dau. and heir of William, Lord Latimer, K.G., and had by her (who m. 2ndly, Sir Robert de Willoughby) had issue, John, Elizabeth, and Margaret. He d. at Newcastle, 17 October, 1388, and was buried in the south side of the nave of Durham Cathedral, and was s. by his eldest son, Ralph de Nevill. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 393, Nevill, Barons Nevill, of Raby, Earls of Westmoreland]

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John De Neville Father: Ralph De Neville b: Abt 1291 in Raby (Dur) England � Death: 5 Aug 1367 in Raby Castle (Dur) England Burial: Church At Staindrop (Dur) England Mother: Alice De Audley daughter of Hugh De Audley, b: Abt 1267 Mother: Isolde De Mortimer

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Ralph NEVILLE.[41],[82, 101:24*->209],[193],[74, 186:5] Born in 1291 in of Raby (Durham) England.[82],[74, 186:5 *] Ralph died on 5 Aug 1367; he was 76.[41] Buried in Durham Cathedral Church.[41] IV Baron Neville of Raby.[86],[74, 186:5]

Ralph, educated at Oxford, captured with his elder brother Robert, and his 2 younger brothers Alexander and John at the Scots victory at the Battle of Bannockburn 24 June 1314, was ransomed at crippling cost to his father. Witnessed his elder brother "The Peacock of the North" Robert's death in June 1319 at the hands of Sir James Douglas (known as "The Good" by the Scots, but also, especially by the English, as the "Black Douglas" from his dark complexion) outside the walls of Berwick Castle in single combat, a contest arranged in revenge for the killing by Neville and his brothers the previous Dec of Richard FitzMarmaduke. [Burke's Peerage] ------------------ Ralph de Neville, Lord Neville of Raby, age 40+ at father's death, b. c 1291, d. 5 Aug 1367; m. license 14 Jan 1326/7 Alice de Audley, d. 12 Jan 1373/4. [Magna Charta Sureties] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Fourth Baron of Raby, second Baron Neville. Ralph was captured in a battle with the Scots in 1318. He was ransomed and lived to command a division of English that soundly defeated the Scots at the Battle of Neville's Cross on October 17, 1346, when the Scots were defeated and King David captured. The battle was fought one-half mile west of Durham on the Brancepeth road near the old cross. After the battle, lord Neville replaced it with a much grander monument. It stood for 240 years in good condition until 1589 when it was vandalized. These remains still stand. Constable of Warkworth Castle, keeper of peace in Yorkshire and Raby, assisted in truce with Robert Bruce, named warded on marches in Northumberland, Cumberland and Westmorland, named superior warden, steward of Kings household. 1350-with English fleet in battle with Spaniards off Calais. 1355-in France with battle of Poitiers He was buried in the church of Durham, on the south side thereof, being the first layman that had sepulture there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Ralph de Nevill, 2nd baron, was summoned to parliament from 20 November, 1331, to 20 January, 1336. This nobleman, in the time of his father, was retained by indenture to serve the Lord Henry de Percy for life, in peace and war, against all men except the king, with twenty men-at-arms, whereof five to be knights receiving �100 sterling per annum. The dispute with the prior of Durham, regarding the presentation of the stag was revived and finally set to rest in the abandonment of his claim by this Lord Nevill. The matter is thus detailed by Dugdale: "In this year likewise, doing his fealty to William, prior of Durham, upon Lammas Day, for the manor of Raby, he told him, 'that he would offer the stag as his ancestors had done; saving that, whereas his father required that the prior's servants should be set aside at that time and his own serve in their stead, he would be content that his should attend together with those of the prior's; and, whereas his father insisted that his servants should only be admitted at dinner, he stood upon it that his should be there entertained the whole day and likewise the morrow at breakfast.' Whereupon the prior made answer, 'that none of his ancestors were ever so admitted and that he would rather quit the stag than suffer any new custom to the prejudice of their church.' But, to this Ralph replied, 'that he would perform the whole service or none and put the trial of his right upon the country.' The prior, therefore, knowing him to be so powerful and that the country could not displease him, declined the offer; howbeit, at length, to gain his favour, in regard he had no small interest at court and might do him a kindness or a displeasure, was content for that one time he should perform it as he pleased so that it might not be drawn into example afterwards; and, to the purpose proposed, that indentures should be made betwixt them. Whereupon the Lord Nevill brought but few with him and those more for the honour of the prior than a burthen; and so, shortly after dinner, took his leave, but left one of his servants to lodge there all night and to take his breakfast there on the next day; 'protesting that, being both a son and tenant to the church, he would not be burthensome to it, in respect it would be no advantage to himself but might much damnifie him if he should bring with him as great a train as he would, saying, 'what doth a breakfast signify to me? nothing. And likewise, that if the prior would shew that he had no right to what he so claimed, he would freely recede therefrom; and if he had a right, he would accept a composition for it rather than be burthensome to the convent; but if they should put him to get his right by law, then he would not abate anything thereof.' Whereupon inquiry being made amongst the eldest monks of the house, they affirmed that, being of eight years standing when his father was before repulsed, they had often seen the stag offered, and that he never staid dinner but when the prior invited him, and some ancient men of the country testified as much; also, that so soon as the stag was brought, they carried him to the kitchen, and those who brought him were taken into the hall to breakfast, as they that bring their rents used to be. "Moreover, when it happened any of the Lords Nevill to be desired to stay dinner with the prior, his cook was admitted into the kitchen to prepare a dish for him; so, likewise, another servant in the cellar to choose his drink; and in like manner, some other at the gate who knew his servants and followers, merely to let them in and keep out others who, under pretence of being servants, might then intrude. But this was only done by the prior, as out of courtesy and respect, and not at all out of right." In the 7th Edward III [1314], Lord Nevill was one of the commissioners sent into Scotland, there to see that the covenants between Edward de Baliol, King of Scots, and his royal master were ratified by the parliament of that kingdom; and the next year he was joined with Henry de Percy in the wardenship of the marches of Northumberland, Cumberland, and Westmoreland. He had, subsequently, other high and confidential employments and was constantly engaged in the wars of Scotland and France. His lordship m. Alice, dau. of of Sir Hugh de Audley, and by her (who m 2ndly, Ralph, Lord Greystock, and d. 1374) had issue, John, Thomas, Robert, Alexander, Ralph, Euphemia, Catherine, Margaret, Isabel, and Eleanor. He d. in 1367 and was buried in the church of Durham, on the south side thereof, being the first layman that had sepulture there, which favour he obtained from the prior and convent for a vestment of red velvet, richly embroidered with gold silk, great pearls, and images of the saints standing in tabernacles by him given to St Cuthbert. His body being brought in a chariot drawn by seven horses to the boundary of the churchyard and thence conveyed upon the shoulders of knights into the middle of the church where the abbot of St. Mary's in York (by reason of the bishop's absence and impotency of the dean), performed the office of the dead, and celebrated the morrow mass, at which were offered eight horses, viz., four for the war, with four men armed, and all their harness and habiliments; and four others for peace; as also three cloths of gold, of blue colour, interwoven with flowers. Four of those horses were redeemed after the funeral by Sir John, his son and heir, for 100 marks. His lordship was s. by his eldest son, Sir John de Nevill. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 393, Nevill, Barons Nevill, of Raby, Earls of Westmoreland]

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Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 207-32 Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 Page: 14 Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 44-5, 45-5 Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 44-5

Marriage 1 Alice De Audley � Married: 14 Jan 1326

Children

1. John De Neville b: Abt 1331 in Raby, Durham, England; 2. Margaret De Neville b: 12 Feb 1341 in Raby, England ; 3. Isabel De Neville ; 4. Ralph De Neville b: 1332-1333;

Ralph De Neville Father: Ranulph De Neville b: 18 Oct 1262 in Raby Castle, Durham, England � Death: Aft 18 Apr 1331 in Raby Castle, Durham, England Mother: Euphemia De Clavering b: Abt 1267 in Of, Warkworth, Northumberland, England, daughter of Robert Fitzroger b: 1247 Mother: Margery De La Zouche

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Randolph or Ranulf de Neville, 1st Lord (Baron) Neville (of Raby), so created (according to later doctrine) by writ of summons to Parliament 24 June 1295; b 18 Oct 1262; found guilty 1313 of incest with his daughter, Anastasia, Lady de Faucomberge. [Burke's Peerage] ------------- Randolph de Neville, b. 18 Oct 1262, d. shortly after 18 Apr 1331, 1st Lord Neville of Raby. [Magna Charta Sureties] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- First Baron Neville of Raby Became heir to mothers lands Ranulph held eight adjoining lordships in the Prior of Durham. He had numerous disputes with the Bishop of Durhan concerning his responsibilities. He was convicted of incest with a daughter and made to do public penance for the crime. He was summoned to Parliament in 1295 as Lord Neville of Raby and served until his death (1331) Some say he is incorrectly called Ralph. He was one of the signers of a letter to Pope Boniface VIII (1292-1303) drawn up in a parliament convened in Lincoln by Edward I on January 23, 1301. This letter set forth the rights of the Crown to Scotland and strongly disapproved of the Pope's other actions in regard to England. Ranulphus was a champion of civil liberties, a soldier in Gascony and Scotland, yet has been much maligned. His mother was heiress to her father's estate but she does not appear to have held Ranulphus in much esteem as she settled them on her grandson, Robert. Buried at Coverham Abby. some show marriage in 1282, some show death as October 29, 1331. was in wars with France and Scotland -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- Ranulf, or Ralph, de Nevill, being in minority at the time of his grandfather's decease [in 1282], obtained liberty of the king that his friends might plough and manage his lands and, in the 13th Edward I [1285], had livery of certain manors, part of his inheritance. Soon after this, he had a warm contest with the prior of Durham about the presentation of a stag upon St. Cuthbert's Day, in September, "which, in truth," says Dugdale, "was rather a rent than an obligation, in regard he held Raby with the eight adjoining townships by the yearly rent of �4 and a stag. For, contrary to the custom of his ancestors, he not only required that the prior of Durham, at the offering of that stag, ought to feast him and all the company he should bring, but that the prior's own menial servants should, for that time, be set aside, and his peculiar servants and officers be put in their stead. Whereupon, amongst other of his guests, he invited John de Baliol, of Barnard Castle, who refused to go with him, alleging that he never knew the Nevills to have such a privilege there; Sir William de Bromtpon, the bishop's chief justice, likewise acknowledging that he himself was the first that began the extravagant practice for being a young man and delighting in hunting, he came with the Lord Nevill at the offering of the stag and said to his companions, 'Come, let us go to the abbey and wind our horns,' and so they did. The prior father adding, that before the time of this Ranulph, none of his predecessors ever made any such claim, but when they brought the stag into the hall, they had only a breakfast, nor did the lord ever stay dinner, except he were invited." This Ranulph was summoned to parliament as a Baron, 8 June, 1294, and from that period to 18 February, 1331. His lordship was in the wars of France, temp. Edward I, and in those of Scotland in the next reign. It is said, however, that he little minded secular business but devoted the principal part of his time to conversation with the canons of Merton and Coverham, upon whom he bestowed some considerable grants. He m. 1st, Euphemia, dau. of Robert and sister of John de Clavering, and had two sons, Robert and Ralph, and two daus., Margaret and Anastasia. His lordship m. 2ndly, Margery, dau. of John, son of Marmaduke de Thweng, but had no issue. He d. in 1331, was buried on the south side of the altar at Coverham, and was s. by his only surviving son, Ralph de Nevill. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 392-3, Nevill, Barons Nevill, of Raby, Earls of Westmoreland]

Sources:

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 186-4 Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 Page: 14 Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 44-4 Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 43-4

Ranulph De Neville Father: Robert De Neville b: Abt 1236 in Raby Castle, Durham, England � Death: 6 Jun 1271 in Coverham Abbey, North Riding Yorkshire, England (Dvp), Mother: Mary Fitz Ranulph

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Robert was the son of Robert and his first wife. Ida might have been his second wife. Robert greatly enhanced the territory of the family by his marriage about 1260 to Mary, elder daughter of Ralph Fitz Ranulph of Middleham. Henry Drummond states: "In 1271, Robert was caught by friends of the husband of a lady in Craven, who inflicted on him their vengence in a mode intended to prevent forever repetition of this offense. He died from these wounds in the lifetime of his father" Sources:

Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 Page: 14 Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 Page: 14 Text: 1271

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Edward De Neville Father: Ralph De Neville b: 1363 in Raby Castle, Durham, England Mother: Joan De Beaufort b: Abt 1379 in Chateau DE Beauf, Meuse-Et-Loire, France

Joan daughter of John of Gaunt Plantagenet b: 1340 c: Mar 1340 in St Bavon's Abbey, Ghent, Flanders. He died 3 Feb 1399 in Ely House Holborn and was buried in St Paul's Cathedral, London, England. John married Katherine De Roet b: 1350, Dutchess on 13 Jan 1396 in Lincoln Cathedral.

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The noted historian, Sydney Armitage-Smith, in his book, John of Gaunt (1964), page 77 states that John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, and his first wife, Blanche of Lancaster, had five children: "Blanche [of Lancaster] had borne her husband five children: two died in infancy; of the three who survived two were to play a leading role in the story of these times, for Henry was destined for the throne of England, and Philippa for that of Portugal."). END OF QUOTE. This material may be viewed at the following weblink: ... Elsewhere, I note that other modern sources such as the Foundations of Medieval Genealogy website claim that John of Gaunt had seven children by his first wife, Blanche of Lancaster, namely Philippa, John, Elizabeth, Edward, John, Henry, and Isabella. Surprisingly, neither Armytage-Smyth or Foundations of Medieval Genealogy gives any documented sources to support their statements. As such, I've been trying to find early sources which would give a better account of the number and names of John of Gaunt's children by Blanche of Lancaster. So far I have found three ancient pedigrees which list the children of John of Gaunt, by Blanche of Lancaster. The first such pedigree is printed in Wright, Feudal Manuals of English Hist. (1872):150- 151. It can be found at the following weblink: .

The above pedigree lists six children of Blanche of Lancaster, not five or seven:

Johannes, qui moritur juvenis. Edwardus, qui moritus juvenis. Philippa regina Portingaliae. Elizabeth, comitissa de Huntyndone. Henricus quartus. Johannes, qui moritur juvenis.

The second pedigree I have found is dated c.1461\endash 1485. It was published in 1919 in Handbook of the Maude Roll by Wall. It lists the same six children (not necessarily in this order): Johannes Edwardus Philippa regina Portyngalie Elizabetha comitissa Huntingdon Henricus Quartus Johannes

The third source that I have found is an ancient pedigree dated c.1500 which is found in the frontispiece to the book, Life & Times of Richard III, by Cheetham (1992). This pedigree chart gives the following information: "Iohn a Gaunt had iij wyffs Blanch Co[n]stans & Kateri[n] Swa[n]ford. By ye furst he had vj. Chylderne. John. Edward. John. & kyng henry ye iiij. Phillippe quene of Portingale Elsabeth. Cowntes of Hu[n]tingdo [n] & by ye ij pr[in]cis Constans. he had Kateri[n] quene of Spayne. And by ye iij yt was Kateri[n] he had iiij Jone Cowntes of Westmorlond. Herri yt was a Cardinall. Thomas duke of Exsetor & John Erle of Som[er]set." END OF QUOTE Once again, we see the same six children claimed for John of Gaunt's marriage with Blanche of Lancaster as found in the other two pedigrees. In this case, the order given is the sons first, namely John, Edward, John, and King Henry IV, and the daughters next, Philippe and Elizabeth. Also please note that the vernacular form, Philippe, is used in this English language document, not the Latin form Philippa found in the other two pedigrees which are in Latin. If these three pedigrees collectively are to be trusted (and I believe they can be), it would appear that John of Gaunt and his wife, Blanche of Lancaster, had six children in all, not five or seven. In the absence of concrete evidence otherwise, it would appear that the extra child, Isabel, claimed by Foundations of Medieval Genealogy is spurious.

Marriage 1 Blanche Of Lancaster b: 25 Mar 1341-1345

Married: 6 Jan 1359

Children

1. Philippe Lancaster b: 31 Mar 1360 in Leicester ; 2. John Of Lancaster b: 1362 ; 3. Elzabeth Lancaster b: 21 Feb 1363 ; 4. Edward Of Lancaster b: Abt 1365; 5. John Of Lancaster b: Bef 4 May 1366 ; 6. Henry Of Lancaster b: 3 Apr 1367 in Bolingbroke Castle, Lincolnshire ; 7. Isabel Of Lancaster b: 1368;

Marriage 2 Constance Constanza of Castle-Leon

� Married: Bef 29 Sep 1371 in Roquefort near Bordeaux

Children

1. Katherine Of Lancaster, 2. John Of Lancaster b: 1374,

Marriage 3 Katherine De Roet b: 1350

Children

1. John Beaufort b: 1373 in Chateau De Beaufort, Lincolnshire, Meuse-et-Loire, France ; 2. Henry Beaufort b: 1375 ; 3. Thomas Beaufort b: 1377 ; 4. Joan De Beaufort b: Abt 1379 in Chateau DE Beauf, Meuse-Et-Loire, France;

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John of Gaunt Plantagenet Duke Father: Edward Of England b: 13 Nov 1312 in Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England c: 29 Jan 1327 in Crowned Westminster Abbey. He died 21 Jun 1377 in At Sheen Palace Richmond and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England. Edward married Philippa of HAINAULT on 24 Jan 1328 in York Minster. Edward was baptized in Crowned Westminster Abbey 29 Jan 1327. Wife Philippa of HAINAULT was born 24 Jun 1311 in Valenciennes. She died 15 Aug 1369 in Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England. Philippa married Edward 111 King of England on 24 Jan 1328 in York Minster. Queen Philippe of Hainault, wife of King Edward III of England, she is most definitely a descendant of Gertrude of Meran, wife of King Andrew II of Hungary. This is not a "very bad slip" on my part. To find Queen Philippe's descent from Gertrude on your own website, I suggest you display Queen Philippe's ancestry for eight generations. Gertrude of Meran is located in the 7th generation of Queen Philippe's ancestry.

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They had the following children:

1 Edward PLANTAGENET was born 15 Jun 1330 and died 8 Jun 1376.

2 Isabella PLANTAGENET was born 16 Jun 1332 and died 1396.

3 Joan PLANTAGENET was born Feb 1335 in Woodstock. She died 2 Sep 1348 in Bayonne Of "The Black Death".

4 William PLANTAGENET was born 16 Feb 1337 in Hatfield Herts. He died 8 Jul 1337 in Died young..

5 Lionel of Antwerp PLANTAGENET 1st Duke of was born 29 Nov 1338 and died 10 Dec 1363.

6 John of Gaunt PLANTAGENET Duke was born Mar 1340 and died 3 Feb 1399.

7 Edmund of Langley PLANTAGENET Duke of York was born 5 Jun 1341 and died 1 Aug 1402.

8 Blanche PLANTAGENET was born Mar 1342 in Tower of London, England. She died Mar 1342 in Tower of London, England.

9 Mary PLANTAGENET was born 10 Oct 1344 and died 1362.

10 Margaret PLANTAGENET was born 20 Jul 1346 and died 1 Oct 1361.

11 William PLANTAGENET was born 24 Jun 1348 in Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England. He died Sep 1348.

12 Thomas PLANTAGANET of WOODSTOCK Knight was born 7 Jan 1355 and died 8 Sep 1397

Edward 111 King of England Parents Edward 11 King of England was born 25 Apr 1284 in Caernarvon Castle. He died 21 Sep 1327 in Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire and was buried in Gloucester Cathedral. Edward married Isabella of FRANCE Queen on 25 Jan 1308 in Boulogne. Edward was baptized in Crowned 1307, Deposed 20 Jan 1327. Wife Isabella of FRANCE Queen was born 1292 in Paris, France. She died 22 Aug 1358 in Castle Rising, Norfolk, England and was buried in Grey Friars Church, Newgate, London. Isabella married Edward 11 King of England on 25 Jan 1308 in Boulogne. Isabella daughter of Father: Philip IV "The Fair" b: 1268 Philip wife: Joan Of Navarre b: Jan 1271-1272 in Pamplona, Navarre, Spain

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8 Jul 1307 Accedes to the throne after the death of his father Edward I. 1308 Edward's favorite Piers Gaveston is exiled. 1310 King's cousin Thomas, Earl of Lancaster takes over. 1314 English army routed at Battle of Bannockburn by Robert Bruce. 1320's Hugh le Despencer and son become favorites and restore some power to King. 1326 Isabella abandons Edward and with lover Roger de Mortimer, deposes Edward II, Executes both le Despencers, and assumes power as regents of Edward III. 1327 Murdered. Edward II, byname EDWARD OF CAERNARVON (b. April 25, 1284, Caernarvon, Caernarvonshire, Wales--d. September 1327, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, Eng.), king of England from 1307 to 1327. Although he was a man of limited capability, he waged a long, hopeless campaign to assert his authority over powerful barons. The fourth son of King Edward I, he ascended the throne upon his father's death (July 7, 1307) and immediately gave the highest offices to Edward I's most prominent opponents. He earned the hatred of the barons by granting the earldom of Cornwall to his frivolous favourite (and possible lover), Piers Gaveston. In 1311 a 21-member baronial committee drafted a document -- known as the Ordinances -- demanding the banishment of Gaveston and the restriction of the King's powers over finances and appointments. Edward pretended to give in to these demands; he sent Gaveston out of the country but soon allowed him to return. In retaliation the barons seized Gaveston and executed him (June 1312). Edward had to wait 11 years to annul the Ordinances and avenge Gaveston. Meanwhile, the Scottish king Robert I the Bruce was threatening to throw off English overlordship. Edward led an army into Scotland in 1314 but was decisively defeated by Bruce at Bannockburn on June 24. With one stroke, Scotland's independence was virtually secured, and Edward was put at the mercy of a group of barons headed by his cousin Thomas of Lancaster, who by 1315 had made himself the real master of England. Nevertheless, Lancaster proved to be incompetent; by 1318 a group of moderate barons led by Aymer de Valence, earl of Pembroke, had assumed the role of arbitrators between Lancaster and Edward. At this juncture Edward found two new favourites--Hugh le Despenser and his son and namesake. When the King supported the younger Despenser's territorial ambitions in Wales, Lancaster banished both Despensers. Edward then took up arms in their behalf. His opponents fell out among themselves, and he defeated and captured Lancaster at Boroughbridge, Yorkshire, in March 1322. Soon afterward, he had Lancaster executed. At last free of baronial control, Edward revoked the Ordinances. His reliance on the Despensers, however, soon aroused the resentment of his queen, Isabella. While on a diplomatic mission to Paris in 1325, she became the mistress of Roger Mortimer, an exiled baronial opponent of Edward. In September 1326 the couple invaded England, executed the Despensers, and deposed Edward on 21 Jan 1327 in favour of his son, who was crowned (January 1327) King Edward III. Edward II was imprisoned and in September 1327 died, probably by violence. [Encyclop�dia Britannica CD '97] Reigned 1307-1327, deposed and murdered. Invested as the first Prince of Wales in 1301. His reign was troubled by extravagances, his militarist disasters in Scotland, notably at Bannockburn(1314), and the unpopularity of his favourite peers, Piers Gaveston, who died in 1312, and Hugh le Despencer, 1262-1326. He was deposed on 21 Jan 1327, and murdered by a red-hot poker in his bowels.

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Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968 Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 Page: 161-15 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 101-31

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1 Edward 111 King of England was born 13 Nov 1312 and died 21 Jun 1377.

2 John of ELTHAM Earl was born 15 Aug 1316 in Eltham Palace, Kent. He died 14 Sep 1336 in Perth Died in his youth and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England. Edward 11 King of England Parents Edward I (LONGSHANKS) King of England was born 17 Jun 1239 in Westminster Palace London England. He died 7 Jul 1307 in Burgh-by-Sands and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England. Edward married Eleanor of CASTILE on 18 Oct 1254 in Abbey of Las Huelgas, Burgos, Castile. Edward was baptized in Crowned 1274 Westminster Abbey. Wife Eleanor of CASTILE was born 1244 in Castile, Spain. She died 24 Nov 1290 in Herdeby, Near Grantham, Lincolnshire and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England. Eleanor married Edward I (LONGSHANKS) King of England on 18 Oct 1254 in Abbey of Las Huelgas, Burgos, Castile. Eleanor daughter of Ferdinand (St.) III Of Castile b: 1199 and his wife: Johanna Dammartin b: 1208

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Note: Occupation: King 1272-1307

Edward I, called Longshanks (1239-1307), king of England (1272-1307), Lord of Gascony, of the house of Plantagenet. He was born in Westminster on June 17, 1239, the eldest son of King Henry III, and at 15 married Eleanor of Castile. In the struggles of the barons against the crown for constitutional and ecclesiastical reforms, Edward took a vacillating course. When warfare broke out between the crown and the nobility, Edward fought on the side of the king, winning the decisive battle of Evesham in 1265. Five years later he left England to join the Seventh Crusade. Following his father's death in 1272, and while he was still abroad, Edward was recognized as king by the English barons; in 1273, on his return to England, he was crowned. The first years of Edward's reign were a period of the consolidation of his power. He suppressed corruption in the administration of justice, restricted the jurisdiction of the ecclesiastical courts to church affairs, and eliminated the papacy's overlordship over England. On the refusal of Llewelyn ab Gruffydd (died 1282), ruler of Wales, to submit to the English crown, Edward began the military conflict that resulted, in 1284, in the annexation of Llewelyn's principality to the English crown. In 1290 Edward expelled all Jews from England. War between England and France broke out in 1293 as a result of the efforts of France to curb Edward's power in Gascony. Edward lost Gascony in 1293 and did not again come into possession of the duchy until 1303. About the same year in which he lost Gascony, the Welsh rose in rebellion. Greater than either of these problems was the disaffection of the people of Scotland. In agreeing to arbitrate among the claimants to the Scottish throne, Edward, in 1291, had exacted as a prior condition the recognition by all concerned of his overlordship of Scotland. The Scots later repudiated him and made an alliance with France against England. To meet the critical situations in Wales and Scotland, Edward summoned a parliament, called the Model Parliament by historians because it was a representative body and in that respect was the forerunner of all future parliaments. Assured by Parliament of support at home, Edward took the field and suppressed the Welsh insurrection. In 1296, after invading and conquering Scotland, he declared himself king of that realm. In 1298 he again invaded Scotland to suppress the revolt led by Sir William Wallace. In winning the Battle of Falkirk in 1298, Edward achieved the greatest military triumph of his career, but he failed to crush Scottish opposition. The conquest of Scotland became the ruling passion of his life. He was, however, compelled by the nobles, clergy, and commons to desist in his attempts to raise by arbitrary taxes the funds he needed for campaigns. In 1299 Edward made peace with France and married Margaret, sister of King Philip III of France. Thus freed of war, he again undertook the conquest of Scotland in 1303. Wallace was captured and executed in 1305. No sooner had Edward established his government in Scotland, however, than a new revolt broke out and culminated in the coronation of Robert Bruce as king of Scotland. In 1307 Edward set out for the third time to subdue the Scots, but he died en route near Carlisle on July 7, 1307. He also had a daughter with Eleanor of Castile that died young.

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They had the following children:

1 Eleanor PLANTAGENET was born 17 Jun 1264 and died 12 Oct 1297.

2 Joan PLANTAGENET was born 1265. She died 1265 and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England.

3 John PLANTAGENET was born 10 Jul 1266 in Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England. He died 3 Aug 1271 in Westminster London England and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England.

4 Henry PLANTAGENET was born 13 Jul 1267 in Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England. He died 14 Oct 1274 in Merton, Surrey and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England.

5 Julian (Katherine) PLANTAGENET was born 1271 in Acre, Palestine. She died 1271 in Holy Land and was buried in Church of the Friars Preachers, Bordeaux.

6 Joan PLANTAGENET was born 1272 and died 23 Apr 1307.

7 Alfonso PLANTAGENET 8th Earl was born 24 Nov 1273 in Bordeaux. He died 19 Aug 1284 in Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England.

8 Margaret PLANTAGENET was born 11 Sep 1275 and died 1318.

9 Berengaria PLANTAGENET was born 1276 in Kennington Palace, Surrey. She died 1279 and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England

10 Mary PLANTAGENET was born 11 Mar 1278 and died 8 Jul 1332. Husband above

11 Isabella PLANTAGENET was born 12 Mar 1279. She died 1279 and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England.

12 Alice PLANTAGENET was born 12 Mar 1279 in Woodstock. She died 1291.

13 Elizabeth (Isabel) PLANTAGANET Princess was born 7 Aug 1282 and died 5 May 1316.

14 Edward 11 King of England was born 25 Apr 1284 and died 21 Sep 1327.

15 Beatrice PLANTAGENET was born 1286 in Aquitaine. She died in Young.

16 Blanche PLANTAGENET was born 1290. She died 1290

Edward I (LONGSHANKS) King of England Parents Henry 111 King of England was born 12 Oct 1207 in Winchester Castle, Hampshire, England. He died 16 Nov 1272 in Westminster Palace London England and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, England. Henry married Eleanor of Provence BERENGER on 4 Jan 1236 in Canterbury Cathedral, Canterbury, Kent. Henry was baptized in Crowned 28 Oct 1216. wife Eleanor of Provence BERENGER was born 1223 in Aix-en-Provence, France. She died 24 Jun 1291 in Amesbury Abbey, Wiltshire and was buried in Convent Church, Amesbury. Eleanor married Henry 111 King of England on 4 Jan 1236 in Canterbury Cathedral, Canterbury, Kent. Eleanor daughter of Raymond Berenger b: 1198 his wife: Beatrice Of Savoy b: Abt 1201

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Direct Descendants of Henry III of England 1 King Henry III of England b: 1 Oct 1207 d: 12 Nov 1272 ref #: F225:15 +�l�onore de Provence b: Abt. 1217 d: 25 Jun 1291 ref #: �111-30

Duke of Aquitaine, and a member of the house of Anjou, or Plantagenet. Henry ascended the throne at the age of nine, on the death of his father. During his minority the kingdom was ruled by William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, as regent, but after his death in 1219 the justiciar Hubert de Burgh was the chief power in the government. During the regency the French, who occupied much of eastern England, were expelled, and rebellious barons were subdued. Henry was declared of age in 1227. In 1232 he dismissed Hubert de Burgh from his court and commenced ruling without the aid of ministers. Henry displeased the barons by filling government and church offices with foreign favorites, many of them relatives of his wife, Eleanor of Provence, whom he married in 1236, and by squandering money on Continental wars, especially in France. In order to secure the throne of Sicily for one of his sons, Henry agreed to pay the pope a large sum. When the king requested money from the barons to pay his debt, they refused and in 1258 forced him to agree to the Provisions of Oxford, whereby he agreed to share his power with a council of barons. Henry soon repudiated his oath, however, with papal approval. After a brief period of war, the matter was referred to the arbitration of Louis IX, king of France, who decided in Henry's favor in a judgment called the Mise of Amiens (1264). Simon de Montfort, earl of Leicester, accordingly led the barons into war, defeated Henry at Lewes, and took him prisoner. In 1265, however, Henry's son and heir, Edward, later King Edward I, led the royal troops to victory over the barons at Evesham, about 40.2 km (about 25 mi) south of Birmingham. Simon de Montfort was killed in the battle, and the barons agreed to a compromise with Edward and his party in 1267. From that time on Edward ruled England, and when Henry died, he succeeded him as king.

Henry III (October 1 , 1207 < - November 16 , 1272) is one of the least-known British monarchs, considering the great length of his reign. He was born in 1207 , the son of the infamous King John , and succeeded to the throne at the age of nine, with the result that the country was ruled by regents until 1227 . Henry married Eleanor of Provence , and they had nine children, the eldest of whom succeeded Henry as Edward I of England .

Henry's reign was marked by civil strife, as the English barons demanded more say in the running of the kingdom. This led to the calling of the first English Parliament by Simon de Montfort , who, besides being the leader of opposition, was married to Henry's sister. At the Battle of Lewes in 1264, Henry was defeated and taken prisoner by de Montfort. Henry's son, Edward, turned the tables on de Montfort in 1265at the Battle of Evesham , following which savage retribution was exacted on the rebels. From about 1270 , Henry effectively gave up the reins of government to his son. He died in 1272 and is buried in Westminster Abbey.

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They had the following children:

1 Edward I (LONGSHANKS) King of England was born 17 Jun 1239 and died 7 Jul 1307.

2 Margaret PLANTAGENET Princess was born 29 Sep 1240 and died 26 Feb 1275.

3 Beatrice PLANTAGENET was born 25 Jun 1242 and died 24 Mar 1275.

4 Edmund PLANTAGENET Earl was born 16 Jan 1245 and died 5 Jun 1296.

5 Richard PLANTAGENET was born 1247 in Estimated. He died 1256 in Died young..

6 John PLANTAGENET was born 1250 in Estimated. He died 1256 in Died young..

7 Katherine PLANTAGENET was born 25 Nov 1253 in Westminster. She died 3 May 1257 in Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England.

8 William PLANTAGENET was born 1256 in Estimated. He died 1256 in Died young..

9 Henry PLANTAGENET was born 1256 in Estimated. He died 1257 in Died young..

Henry 111 King of England Parents John Lackland PLANTAGENET King of England was born 24 Dec 1167 in Beaumont Palace near Oxford. He died 18 Oct 1216 in Newark Castle, Nottinghamshire and was buried in Tomb in Worcester Cathedral. John married Isabella of Angoul�me TAILLEFER on 24 Aug 1200 in Angouleme Bordeaux. John was baptized in Crowned King 27 May 1199. Wife Isabella of Angoul�me TAILLEFER was born 1180 in Angoul�me, France. She died 31 May 1246 in Fontevrault and was buried in Fontevraud Abbey. Isabella married John PLANTAGENET King of England on 24 Aug 1200 in Angouleme Bordeaux

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King John who, under considerable pressure, granted the Magna Charta and then attempted to welsh on the deal

Signed the Magna Carta at Runnymede, 1215. Reigned 1199-1216. His reign saw renewal of war with Phillip II Augustus of France to whom he has lost several continental possesions including Normandy by 1205. He came into conflict with his Barons and was forced to Sign the Magna Carta. His later repudiation of the charter led to the first barons war 1215-17 during which John died. Burke says he was born in 1160. King of Ireland 1177, Count of Mortain 1189, Earl of Gloucester. It is known that Agatha Ferrers was a mistress of John, but it is only supposition that she is the mother of Joan.

Also Lord of Ireland, and Count of Mortain, best known for signing the Magna Carta. Henry II provided for the eventual inheritance of his lands by his older sons before John was born. By 1186, however, only Richard I, the Lion-Hearted, and John were left as Henry's heirs. In 1189, as Henry neared death, John joined Richard's rebellion against their father, and when Richard was crowned, he gave John many estates and titles. John tried but failed to usurp the Crown while Richard was away on the Third Crusade: Upon returning to England, Richard forgave him. When his brother died in 1199, John became king. A revolt ensued by the supporters of Arthur of Brittany, the son of John's brother, Geoffrey. Arthur was defeated and captured in 1202, and John is believed to have had him murdered. King Philip II of France continued Arthur's war until John had to surrender nearly all his French possessions in 1204. In 1207 John refused to accept the election of Stephen Langton as archbishop of Canterbury. Pope Innocent III then excommunicated him and began negotiating with Philip for an invasion of England. Desperate, John surrendered England to the pope and in 1213 received it back as a fief. Trying to regain his French possession, he was decisively defeated by Philip in 1214. John's reign had become increasingly tyrannical; to support his wars he had extorted money, raised taxes, and confiscated properties. His barons finally united to force him to respect their rights and privileges. John had little choice but to sign the Magna Carta presented to him by his barons at Runnymede in 1215, making him subject, rather than superior, to the law. Shortly afterward John and the barons were at war. He died while still pursuing the campaign, and was succeeded by his son, Henry III.

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References: � = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed. AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of the Princess of Wales_, [page]. AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or [Pres. # : page]. BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page]. BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page]. BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page]. BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page]. EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page]. EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II, [page]. EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II, [page]. F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para]. S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor. W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed. WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor. WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]

King John (December 24, 1167 - October > 19, 1216 ) was King of England from 1199 to 1216 . He was the youngest brother of King Richard I who was known as "Richard the Lionheart". Nicknames are "Lackland" (in French, sans terre) and "Soft-sword". John is best known for angering the barons to rebellion, so that they forced him to agree to the Magna Carta in 1215 , and then signing England over to the Pope to get out of the promises he made in that Great Charter. The truth, however, is that he was no better or worse a king than his immediate predecessor or his successor (which is still not much of a compliment). Born at Oxford , he was the fifth son of King Henry II of England and Eleanor of Aquitaine , and was always his father's favourite son, though being the youngest, he could expect no inheritance (hence his nickname, "Lackland"). In 1189 he married Isabel, daughter of the Earl of Gloucester . (She is given several alternative names by history, including Hawise (or Avice), Joan, and Eleanor.) They had no children, and John had their marriage annulled on the grounds of consanguinity, some time before or shortly after his accession to the throne, which took place on April 6, 1199 (She then married Hubert de Burgh Before his accession, John had already acquired a reputation for treachery, having conspired sometimes with and sometimes against his elder brothers, Henry , Geoffrey and Richard . In 1184, John and Richard both claimed that they were the rightful heir to the Aquitaine, one of many unfriendly encounters between the two. The 1185 though, John was given rule over Ireland, whose people grew to despise him, causing John to leave after only six months. During Richard's absence on crusade , John attempted to overthrow his designated regent, despite having been forbidden by his brother to leave France . This was one reason the older legend of Hereward the Wake was updated to King Richard's reign, with "Prince John" as the ultimate villain and the hero now called "Robin Hood ". However, on his return to England in 1194, Richard forgave John and named him as his heir.

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King John, by W.L. Warren ISBN 0520036433

John LACKLAND:

"Over-saw" the throne in the absence of King Richard I (the Lion-Hearted); hated by the Barons - punished them while he broke his own laws; Barons rebelled with help of Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury, and created the Magna Carta (Great Charter) in 1215 - forced John to sign - document became the foundation for legal rights of all English people. Also known as "Bad Prince John" of Robin Hood fame.

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They had the following children

1 Henry 111 King of England was born 12 Oct 1207 and died 16 Nov 1272.

2 Richard of Cornwall PLANTAGENET 1st Earl was born 5 Jan 1209 and died 1272.

3 Joan PLANTAGENET Princess was born 22 Jul 1210 and died 4 Mar 1238.

4 Isabella (Elizabeth) PLANTAGENET was born 1214 and died 1 Dec 1241.

5 Eleanor PLANTAGENET was born 1215 and died 13 Apr 1275.

� John PLANTAGENET King of England Parents Henry 11 FITZEMPRESS King of England was born 25 Mar 1133 in Le Mans, Maine. He died 6 Jul 1189 in The Great Castle of Chinon in Touraine and was buried in Fontevrault Abbey in his native Anjou. Henry married Eleanor of AQUITAINE Dutchess on 18 May 1152 in Bordeaux Cathedral. Henry was baptized in Crowned King 25 Oct 1154. Wife Eleanor of AQUITAINE Dutchess was born 1122 in Chateau de Belin, Guinne, France. She died 1 Apr 1204 in Fontevraud Abbey, Maine-et-Loire, France and was buried in Fontevraud Abbey, Maine-et-Loire, France. Eleanor married Henry 11 FITZEMPRESS King of England on 18 May 1152 in Bordeaux Cathedral. Divorced: Y � Married: 18 May 1152 in Bordeaux Cathedral, Bordeau, France � Note: Eleanor of Aquitaine and Louis VII le jeune, King of Francem Duke of Aquitaine divorced 21 Mar 1152. Eleanor daughter of William b: 1099 His wife: Eleanor De Chastellraut�

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Henry II of England aka Henry Fitz Geoffrey aka Henry Fitz Empress, Knt., King of England, Duke of Normandy, Count of Anjou and in right of his wife Duke of Aquitaine,

HENRY died 6-Jul-1189, Chinon, buried: Fontevrault. Crowned in 1154; Quarreled with Thomas a Becket (1118-1170), Archbishop of Canterbury, over the right to punish clergy convicted of crimes; Becket was murdered in his own Cathedral by 4 of Henry's Knights in 1170.

Henry (II) Curtmantle, King of England was born on March 25, 1133. The first of the Plantagenet or Angevin Kings of England, he married Eleanor of Aquitane and became one of the most powerful medi�val English kings and European monarchs.

Reigned 1154-1189. He ruled an empire that stretched from the Tweed to the Pyrenees. In spite of frequent hostitilties with the French King his own family and rebellious Barons (culminating in the great revolt of 1173-74) and his quarrel with Thomas Becket, Henry maintained control over his possessions until shortly before his death. His judicial and administrative reforms which increased Royal control and influence at the expense of the Barons were of great constitutional importance. Introduced trial by Jury. Duke of Normandy. See The House of Clifford for more details of Rosamund's liason with Henry. Weir attributes the mother of these children to "Ikenai", which is also discussed by Clifford. (Chapter 5).

He was also Duke of Normandy, and first monarch of the house of Anjou, or Plantagenet, an important administrative reformer, who was one of the most powerful European rulers of his time.

Henry became duke of Normandy in 1151. The following year, on the death of his father, he inherited the Angevin territories in France. By his marriage to Eleanor of Aquitaine, Henry added vast territories in southwestern France to his possessions. Henry claimed the English kingship through his mother. She had been designated the heiress of Henry I but had been deprived of the succession by her cousin, Stephen of Blois, who made himself king. In 1153 Henry defeated Stephen's armies in England and compelled the king to choose him as his successor; on Stephen's death, the following year, Henry became king. During the first few years of his reign Henry quelled the disorders that had developed during Stephen's reign, regained the northern counties of England, which had previously been ceded to Scotland, and conquered North Wales. In 1171-72 he began the Norman conquest of Ireland and in 1174 forced William the Lion, king of the Scots, to recognize him as overlord.

In 1164 Henry became involved in a quarrel with Thomas + Becket, whom he had appointed archbishop of Canterbury. By the Constitutions of Clarendon, the king decreed that priests accused of crimes should be tried in royal courts; Becket claimed that such cases should be handled by ecclesiastical courts, and the controversy that followed ended in 1170 with Becket's murder by four of Henry's knights. Widespread indignation over the murder forced the king to rescind his decree and recognize Becket as a martyr.

Although he failed to subject the church to his courts, Henry's judicial reforms were of lasting significance. In England he established a centralized system of justice accessible to all freemen and administered by judges who traveled around the country at regular intervals. He also began the process of replacing the old trial by ordeal with modern court procedures. From the beginning of his reign, Henry was involved in conflict with Louis VII, king of France, and later with Louis's successor, Philip II, over the French provinces that Henry claimed. A succession of rebellions against Henry, headed by his sons and furthered by Philip II and by Eleanor of Aquitaine, began in 1173 and continued until his death. Henry was succeeded by his son Richard I, called Richard the Lion-Hearted.

They had the following children:

1 William PLANTAGENET was born 17 Aug 1152 in Rouen, Normandy, France. He died 1155 in Wallingford Castle, Berkshire, England.

2 Henry PLANTAGENET was born 28 Feb 1155 and died 11 Jun 1183.

3 Matilda (Maud) PLANTAGENET Countess was born Jun 1156 and died 28 Jun 1189.

4 Richard 1 King of England was born 8 Sep 1157 and died 6 Apr 1199.

5 Geoffrey PLANTAGENET Duke was born 23 Sep 1158 and died 19 Aug 1186.

**6 Eleanor PLANTAGENET was born 13 Oct 1162 and died 31 Oct 1214. Found below with her husband

7 Joan PLANTAGENET was born Oct 1165 and died 4 Sep 1199.

8 John PLANTAGENET King of England was born 24 Dec 1167 and died 18 Oct 1216.

Henry 11 FITZEMPRESS King of England Parents Geoffrey V PLANTAGENET 9th Count was born 24 Aug 1113. He died 7 Sep 1151 in Chateau-du-Loir France and was buried in St Julian's Church, Le Mans, Anjou. Geoffrey married Matilda the EMPRESS Queen on 22 May 1127 in Le Mans Cathedral, Anjou Matilda the EMPRESS Queen was born Feb 1102 in EnglandLondon. She died 10 Sep 1167 in Notre Dame de Pres Near Rouen and was buried in Fontevrault Abbey Maine France. Matilda married Geoffrey V PLANTAGENET 9th Count on 22 May 1127 in Le Mans Cathedral, Anjou. Matilda was baptized in Reigned 7 months from Apr 1141. Matilda daughter of Henry Beauclerc b: Abt Sep 1068 in Selby, Yorkshire, England His wife: Matilda (Edith) b: in Dunfermline, Fifeshire, Scotland

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Geoffrey "the Fair", meaning "the Handsome" was the first to use the Plantagenet name. One story relates that his father, Fulk the Younger atoned for some evil deed by being scourged with broom twigs or planta genista before the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. Another story relates that Geoffrey wore a sprig of broom or planta genista in his hat. Regardless, it is generally agreed upon that the family name of "Plantagenet" has its origins with the planta genista or broom plant. ------------------ Geoffrey IV, also called GEOFFREY PLANTAGENET, byname GEOFFREY THE FAIR, French GEOFFROI PLANTAGENET, or GEOFFROI le BEL (b. Aug. 24, 1113--d. Sept. 7, 1151, Le Mans, Maine [France]), count of Anjou (1131-51), Maine, and Touraine and ancestor of the Plantagenet kings of England through his marriage, in June 1128, to Matilda (q.v.), daughter of Henry I of England. On Henry's death (1135), Geoffrey claimed the duchy of Normandy; he finally conquered it in 1144 and ruled there as duke until he gave it to his son Henry (later King Henry II of England) in 1150.

Geoffrey was popular with the Normans, but he had to suppress a rebellion of malcontent Angevin nobles. After a short war with Louis VII of France, Geoffrey signed a treaty (August 1151) by which he surrendered the whole of Norman Vexin (the border area between Normandy and �le-de-France) to Louis. [Encyclopaedia Britannica CD '97] -------------------------------------------------------------- The Plantagenet family name was originally just a nickname for Geoffrey. He many times wore a sprig with yellow flowers in his hat. The flower was named "genet" or "genistae" in the French of the times--thus his nickname was "Plant-a-Genet". Genet was supposedly a traditional flower of the Anjou family dating back to the time of Fulk, The Great, Count of Anjou 898-941 who was scourged (in order to atone for past sins) with broom twigs of the Genet while on pilgrimage in Jerusalem. Most people of the times had personal nicknames such as "Beauclerc", "Curtmantel", "Longshanks", and "Lackland", but Geoffrey's stuck and eventually (many generations later) became the family name. Geoffrey's immediate descendants were probably not known as the Plantagenet family at the time they lived, it was only later that the Plantagenet family name was applied to all descendants of Geoffrey.

They had the following children:

1 Henry 11 FITZEMPRESS King of England was born 25 Mar 1133 and died 6 Jul 1189.

2 Geoffrey V1 Count of Nantes was born 1 Jun 1134. He died 1158.

3 William PLANTAGENET Count of Poitou was born 1136. He died 1164

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