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Robert the Bruce family

This family is know the "the BRUCE"

Robert II, King of Scotland born: 2 March 1315/16 in Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland died: 19 April 1390 in Dundonald Castle his wife Elizabeth More. Their a son Walter Stewart, High Steward of Scotland m�d Marjorie, Princess of Scotland.

Marjorie, Princess of Scotland family was the Bruce of Scotland. For Marjorie link look at the bottom.

Where did the name Bruce come from?

Heimskringla_ is paragraph 96 of St Olav's Saga. It deals with the history of Orkney and lists the rulers from the first Norse jarl, Sigurd, down to the sons of Sigurd the Stout. Then paragraph 97 goes on to, in detail, tell the story of these four brothers. The outline is chronological. Sigurd the Stout's sons are not mentioned earlier in the paragraph, and the following text including par. 97 deals with all brothers. The three elder brothers Sumarlide, Bruse and Einar were elected to share the earldom when their father Sigurd had fallen in the Clontarf battle in 1014. Torfinn, however, is said to have been sent to his grand-father, the king of Scotland. Apparently the age-difference between the brothers was significant. Torfinn is said to be 5 when his father dies in 1014, the other three were all old enough to take over the rule of Orkney.

There were several 'Sir' Robert de Bruce's. First was 'Sir' Robert de Bruce, Lord of Annandale who married Isabel of Huntingdon and died @ 1245. They had a son, 'Sir' Robert de Bruce, Lord of Annandale, born @ 1210, married Isabel de Clare @ 1240, died @ 1294. They had a son, 'Sir Robert de Bruce, Lord of Annandale, born 1253, married Margaret of Carrick @ 1271, died @ 1304. They had a son Robert I, King of Scotland, born @1274, married Isabel of Mar @1296 and married second Elizabeth de Burgh @ 1302, died 1329. He ruled from 1306 to 1329. They had at least five children: Marjorie (by first wife) and David II, King of Scotland.

Weis/Sheppard/Faris' ANCESTRAL ROOTS (7th. ed.) include part of it--that source is pretty easily accessible. And in volume II of Sir James Balfour Paul's SCOTS PEERAGE, pp.428-435. I'll summarize it for you here and from*** In any event, the name Bruce is usually derived from Brix in Normandy. _The Scots Peerage_, ii, 428f, begin the verifiable pedigree with

ROBERT DE BRUS, a Norman knight, said to have married EMMA, daughter of Alain, Earl of Brittany. [This generation may be suspect.] ***of Brittany (who rarely appears in accounts of that family). They were the parents of

ADELM or ADAM DE BRUIS (or Brix), said to be the second son of Robert and Emma. Came to England following the Norman conquest (reputedly with his father), and was granted the barony of Skelton and the lordship of Cleveland, in Yorkshire. Adam died about 1080. His wife was said to have been EMMA, daughter of Sir William de Ramsay, but that is doubtful. *** Adam de Brus d. ca 1080, lord of Skelton (Yorkshire) m. ?Emma, dau. of William de Ramsay. With a yr son William, prior of Gisburne (d. 1155) they had:

ROBERT DE BRUS of Skelton, elder son of Adam. Received charters circa 1124 from King David I of Scotland of the lands of Annandale. Married AGNES, daughter of Fulk de Paynell. Robert died May 1141. His eldest son Adam was ancestor of the family of Brus of Skelton. ***Robert de Brus d. 1141 m. Agnes, dau of Fulk Paynel. The eldest son of this marriage continued the Skelton line (for which see Sanders, _English Baronies_, s.v. "Skelton"). A younger son, Payn, may have been ancestor of a Bruce family seated at Pickering. Another yr son,

ROBERT DE BRUS 'le Meschin' (the Younger) of Annandale, second son of Robert and Agnes. He and his father fought on opposite sides at the Battle of the Standard in 1138, when Robert was only 14. His wife was named EUPHEMIA, and he died in 1194.

WILLIAM DE BRUS of Annandale, younger son of Robert and Euphemia. William's wife was named CHRISTINA, and he died in 1215. (Christina survived him, and later married Patrick, Earl of Dunbar.)***Robert Bruce d. 1194 m. Euphemia (parentage unknown) and had two sons. The elder, Robert d.s.p. 1191 m. 1183 Isabel, natural dau of William the Lion; she surv. him and m. 2 Robert de Ros. The younger son, William d. 1215, m. Christiana who, as his widow, m. Patrick earl of Dunbar. The eldest son. William de BRUS 4th Lord of Annandale died in 1215. He was married to Christina. Christina died after 1215. William de BRUS 4th Lord of Annandale died in 1215. He was married to Christina. Christina died long after 1215. Christine married her second husband Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar, before 4 December 1214.

ROBERT DE BRUS 'the Noble' of Annandale, eldest son of William and Christina. Married ISABEL (died circa 1251), second daughter of David, Earl of Huntingdon, who was son of Prince Henry, Earl of Huntingdon, son and heir of David I, King of Scots. Robert died in 1245. He and Isabel were buried at Saltre Abbey, near Stilton, Essex ***Robert `the Noble' d. 1245, m. Isabella of Huntingdon d. 1252 (NS), through whom King Robert Bruce's right to the throne derived. Their son Robert d. 1294 was the original Bruce competitor for the throne, grandfather of the king. David Earl of Huntington was born about 1144. He died on 17 Jun 1219 in Yardley, Northants, England and is Buried at Sawtrey Abbey, Huntingdonshire. . He was married to Matilda �de KEVELIOC� of Chester on 26 Aug 1190. Matilda �de KEVELIOC� of Chester was born in 1171. She died on 6 Jan 1233. Matilda as 'de Kevelioc' -her father was called that because he was born in Cyfeiliog (sp?) in Wales, so it is not a 'proper' surname. (****"Robert I, the Bruce (died 1329) , succeeded John Balliol after years of struggle; married (1) Isabella daughter of Donald, 10th Earl of Mar, by whom he had a daughter Marjorie who married Walter the High Steward, killed by a fall 1316 leaving an only son Robert Stewart who became Robert II. Robert the Bruce married (2) Elizabeth, daughter of Richard de Burgh, Earl of Ulster, by whom he had sons David II and John (d.y.) and daughters (1) Mathilda married Thomas Isaac and had two daughters Catherine d.s.p., and Joanna married John, Lord of Lorn; and (2) Margaret married William, 4th Earl of Sutherland, and had two sons, John, d.v.p. and William, 5th Earl" [PLM: either Sheppard has the Earls of Sutherland confused, or the previous sources mentioned in this forum do?]

"King Robert I had also the following bastards:

i. Sir Robert Bruce, Lord of Liddesdale & Sprouston, killed 12 Aug. 1332." [PLM: Question: Was this man a bastard?

"ii. Walter Bruce of Odistoun, d.v.p.

iii. Nigel (or Neil) Bruce of Carrick, killed at Neville's Cross 17 Oct. 1346.

iv. Margaret married Robert Glen, living 29 Feb. 1363/4.

v. Elizabeth married Sir Walter Oliphant of Gask.

vi. Christian Bruce of Carrick, living 1328/9." )

**ROBERT DE BRUS of Annandale, "the Competitor," son of Robert and Isabel. Born in 1210. When King Alexander III of Scotland was childless, he declared Robert the heir-presumptive to the Scottish crown. Based on this earlier declaration, Robert pressed a claim to the throne. However, the crown ended up going to his kinsman, John Baliol, so on 5 Nov. 1292 Robert resigned his claim to the throne to his son Robert, Earl of Carrick. He was dead by 3 May 1294. His first wife, whom he had married in May 1240 was ISOBEL (born 1226, still living 1264 but could died short time later), second daughter of Gilbert de Clare, 1st. Earl of Gloucester and Hertford. Isabella died in 1251. Weir gives buried at Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire. Daughter of Gilbert de CLARE 1st Earl of Gloucester was born about 1180. He died on 25 Oct 1230 in Penros, Brittany. He was married to Isabella MARSHAL on 9 Oct 1217 in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucester. Isabel de Clare, m. Robert de Bruce, lord of Annandale, competitor for the Scottish crown (d. 1294), son of Robert de Bruce and Isabel of Huntingdon. Robert the BRUCE 6th Lord of Annandale was born in 1210. He died before 3 May 1294. He was married to Isabel de CLARE.

Isabel de CLARE was born on 8 Nov 1226. She died after 1294. Robert "The Noble" de BRUS 5th Lord of Annandale died in 1245. He was married to Isabella. Isabella died in 1251. Father Gilbert de CLARE 1st Earl of Gloucester was born about 1180. He died on 25 Oct 1230 in Penros, Brittany. He was married to Isabella MARSHAL on 9 Oct 1214 in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucester. Gilbert wife Isabella MARSHAL was born on 9 Oct 1200 in Pembroke Castle, Wales. She died on 17 Jan 1240 in Berkhamsted Castle, Hertfordshire. She was buried in Beaulieu Abbey, Hampshire, England. He is often given the soubriquet 'the Competitor' and was designated heir to King Alexander II between 1237 (when the king's cousin John le Scot died) and 1241 (birth of the future Alexander III).

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1 SIR ROBERT DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale, son and heir by 1st wife, born July 1243.) He did homage and had livery of his father's lands, July 1295. Having married, 1stly, in 1271, Margery, suo iure COUNTESS OF CARRICK [SCT], he was summoned cum equis et armis from 6 April 1282 to I7 August I291, and to attend the King at Shrewsbury, 28 June 1283, by writs directed Roberto de Brus comiti de Carrik'. After his 1st wife's death, he resigned the Earldom of Carrick to his son, and they, as Robert de Brus le veil, and Robert de Brus le jeouene, Earl of Carrick, swore fealty to Edward I, 28 August 1296. He was summoned cum equis et armis from 15 May 1297 to 12 March 1300/1, and to Parliament from 24 June 1295 to 26 August 1296, and to attend the King at Salisbury 26 January 1296/7), by writs directed Roberto de Brus (only), by which summonses to Parliament he is held to have become LORD BRUS. He married, 2ndly, Alianore. He died shortly before 4 April 1304, age 60, and was buried in the Abbey of Holm Cultram. His widow married, without license, between 2 December 1304. and 8 February 1305/6, Sir Richard LE WALEYS, of Burgh Wallis, co. York [LORD WALEYS]. She died between 13 April and 8 September 1331. [CP 2:360, 14:151]. Robert de Bruce, lord of Annandale and Earl of Carrick de jure uxoris (d. before 4 Apr 1304), m. Marjorie of Carrick, countess of Carrick suo jure, daughter of Nigel or Neil, Earl of Carrick. 2. Robert the BRUCE Earl of Carrick was born in 1240. He died before 4 Apr 1304 in England. He was married to Marjorie of Carrick Countess of Carrick in 1271 in Turnberry Castle. Marjorie of Carrick Countess of Carrick died before 1292.

2 Christian BRUCE: b Abt 1273 Seton, East Lothian, Scotland; d 1357 son

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ROBERT BRUCE of Annandale, Lord Bruce, Earl of Carrick, eldest son of Robert and Isobel. He married, as his first wife but as her second husband, MARJORIE, eldest daughter and heiress of NEIL or Nigel, Earl of Carrick, and so became Earl of Carrick in right of his wife. Neil 2nd Earl of Carrick. He was married to Margaret STEWART. The Countess Marjorie died in 1292, while he died shortly before 4 April 1304 in England.

Children

1 ROBERT BRUCE of Annandale, Baron Bruce, Earl of Carrick, son of Robert and Marjorie. He was born 11 July 1274, was crowned King of Scots at Scone 27 March 1306, and died 7 June 1329. ROBERT I BRUCE King of Scotland was born on 11 Jul 1274 in Scotland. He died on 7 Jun 1329 in Cardross Castle, Firth of Clyde, Dumbartonshire, Scotland. He was buried on 8 Jun 1329 in Dunfermline Abbey, Fife, Scotland. Robert Bruce, better known as Robert the Bruce, Earl of Carrick, lord of Annandale, King of Scots 1306-1329 (d. 7 Jun 1329) m. 1)Isabel of Mar, daughter of Donald, Earl of Mar; m. 2) Elizabeth de Burgh, daughter of Richard de Burgh, Earl of Ulster (d. 1326) and his wife Margaret

2 Sir Edward de Bruce, 2nd son of Margaret, suo jure Countess of Carrick [SCT], by her 2nd husband, Robert de Bruce, was, by his eldest brother King Robert I, created, shortly before 24 October 1313, Earl of Carrick [SCT], with remainder to the heirs male of his body. He appears to have been also LORD OF GALLOWAY. The Irish and Scots in Ulster having been oppressed by the English, he landed at Carrickfergus, 25 May 1315, and, on 2 May 1316, was crowned KING OF IRELAND. Though the expedition ended in failure and his own death, he gained several victories over the English, notably against the Earl of Ulster at Conyers, 10 September 1315, over Roger Mortimer [afterwards earl of Marc] at Kenlis, co. Kildare, 6 December of the same year, and over Edmund Butler the Justiciar [IRL], at Ardskull, co. Kildare, 20 January 1315/6. He is said to have married Isabel, daughter of John (OF STRATHBOGIE), EARL OF ATHOLL [SCT] by Margaret, daughter of Donald, EARL OF MAR [SCT]. He had a dispensation for marriage (which probably never took place) 1 June 1317, with Isabel, daughter of William, EARL OF Ross [SCT]. He died s.p. legitimate, being slain at the battle of Dundalk, 14 October 1318, when the Earldom reverted to the Crown [SCT]. [CP 3:56-7, 14:152]

3 : Maud Bruce m�d Hugh Ross, 5th Earl of Ross

Their children:

3/1. Euphemia Ross, Countess of Ross was Robert II, King of Scotland 2nd wife

3/2. Margaret Ross m�d Sir David Hamilton son Sir David Hamilton m�d Johanna Keith

3/3. Marjory Ross m�d Malise, Earl of Strathearn child: Isabel of Strathearn m�d Sir William St. Clair, Lord of Rosslyn

ROBERT BRUCE of Annandale, Baron Bruce, Earl of Carrick, son of Robert and Marjorie. He was born 11 July 1274, was crowned King of Scots at Scone 27 March 1306, and died 7 June 1329. Robert I �the Bruce� King of Scotland m�d Isabel of Mar born: abt 1278 in Castle Kildrummy, Aberdeenshire, Scotland died: abt 1320 Isabel�s Father: Donald Mar and mother: Helen, Princess of North Wales. Robert I �the Bruce� King of Scotland�s Father was: Robert de Brus of Annandale and his mother: Margaret of Carrick Margaret�s Father: Nigel, Earl of Carrick and Mother: Margaret Stewart. The Bruce who married Isobel of Mar, who died after having their child Marjory? He then married Elizabeth de Burgh, who was supposedly a loving mother for Marjory. They had David, Margaret, Matilda and John

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ROBERT DE BRUCE, EARL OF CARRICK [SCT], LORD BRUS son and heir, b. 11 July 1274, at Writtle, Essex. He did homage and had livery of his father's lands, 14 June 1304. On 25 and 27 March 1306, he was crowned KING OF SCOTLAND. His estates in England had been taken into the King's hand, 20 February 1305/6.(i) He died 7 June 1329. See particulars under "CARRICK," Earldom of [S.]. [CP 2:360]

Scottish conservationists think they have found Robert the Bruce's heart, in a medieval casket fund at Melrose Abbey. Historic Scotland, a government conservation group, investigated the find. Doreen Grove, an inspector of ancient monuments, of the group, said a proper memorial will be built on the Abbey grounds for Robert the Bruce. A 10-inch metal casket was drilled through one end to reveal a slightly smaller, cone-shaped medieval casket, also made of lead. There was no way to verify if the heart is actually that of Robert the Bruce, but his was the only heart reported to have been buried at Melrose Abbey. Conservationists said that the discovery proves that Bruce's supporters honored his dying wish to be buried at the Abbey

Children

1. David de Bruce, Prince of Scotland, son and heir apparent of King Robert I, born 5 March 1323/4, was by his said father [who himself had held the title, 1292-1306], created Earl of Carrick [SCT], in 1328. On 7 June 1329, he became King of Scotland, as David II, when the Earldom merged in that Crown. [CP 3:57]

2 Marjory Bruce, m. Walter le Stewart, Lord High Steward of Scotland (d. 1327) as his first wife [ * NOTE: through his mother Egidia or Giles de Burgh, Walter le Stewart descends from Hugh le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk (d. 1224) and his father Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, both Sureties of the Magna Carta] Marjorie, Princess of Scotland m�d Walter Stewart, High Steward of Scotland

Their son :

1 JOHN STEWART, s. and h. ap. of Robert, afterwards ROBERT II, King of Scotland, but at that time EARL OF STRATHERN [S.], by his 1st wife, Elizabeth, da. of Sir Adam MURE, was b. about 1337. He was, by his granduncle, King David II, cr. EARL OF CARRICK [S.], 22 June 1368, and, as such, was present in the Parl. at Perth, 23 Oct. 1370. He m., in 1367 (commission to grant disp. 13 Mar. 1365/6), Annabel, 1st da. of Sir John DRUMMOND, of Stobhall, by Mary, 1st da. and coh. of Sir William DE MONTIFEX. She d. in 1401. Soon after his father had succeed. to the throne, he obtained, 1 June 1374, a new charter of this Earldom to the heirs of his body by Annabel his wife, in fee. On 19 Apr. 1390, he succeed. to the throne as KING ROBERT III, when the Earldom merged in the Crown. I wonder about this by Janet. Robert II, King of Scots 1371-1390 [originally Robert Stewart, Lord High Steward of Scotland], m. 1)Elizabeth Mure, m. 2) Euphemia of Ross. ROBERT II STEWART, King of Scots 1370-1390, first of the Stewart Kings of Scots; married 1st. ELIZABETH MUIR, dau. of Sir Adam Muir of Rowallan. King Robert died 19 April 1390

*****This appeared in the Oct. 1968 issue (p. 265x274) of "The Register"

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CARRICK Family

Robert I �the Bruce� King of Scotland�s Father was: Robert de Brus of Annandale and his mother: Margaret of Carrick Margaret�s Father: Nigel, Earl of Carrick and Mother: Margaret Stewart

MARGARET, suojure COUNTESS OF CARRICK [S.], da. and h. She m. 1stly, Adam DE KILCONQUHAR, who thus became jure uxoris EARL OF CARRICK [S.]. He d. sp., being killed in the French Crusade of 1268, at Acre in Palestine in 1270. The Countess m., the next year, 1271, at her castle of Turnberry, Robert DE BRUCE, who thus became jure uxoris EARL OF CARRICK [S.]. For this marriage. which was without the Royal consent, she had to pay a heavy fine. Her husband was s. and h. ap. of Robert DE BRUCE, of Annandale (one of the Competitors for the Crown of Scotland), by his 1st wife, Isabel, da. of Gilbert (DE CLARE), EARL OF GLOUCESTER AND HERTFORD. In 1278 he swore fealty, as proxy for Alexander III, for the Kingdom of Scotland, to Edward I, to which King, on 13 June 1291, he also swore fealty. He was sum. to be at Shrewsbury for the trial of David ap Griffith, 28 June (1283) II Edw. I, by writ directed Roberto de Brus Comiti de Carrik, his name appearing as 11th and last of the earls who were then sum. His wife, the Countess, having previously died, he, On 27 Oct. 1292, resigned the Earldom of Carrick to his 1st son, though he appears still to have been styled Earl thereof. On 1 Apr. 1295 he succeed. his father (who d. aged about 85), and was made Gov. of Carlisle Castle. On 24 June (1295) 23 Edw. I, he was sum. to Parl. [E.] by writ directed Roberto de Brus, whereby he may be held to have become LORD BRUCE. He was also sum. to attend the King at Salisbury, 26 Jan. (i296/7) -25 Edw. 1.@) He accompanied Edward I into Scotland, and fought 28 Apr. 1296, at the battle of Dunbar. To that King he again swore feilty 28 Aug. 1296, at Berwick. He m., 2ndly, Eleanor. He resided latterly in England, and d. there or in Palestine, 1304, before 14 June, and was bur. at Holmcultram. His widow m., in 1305/6, as his 1st wife, Richard WALEYS [LORD WALEYS]. She d. between 16 Mar. and 19 Oct. 1330

In 1278 he swore fealty, as proxy for Alexander III, for the Kingdom of Scotland, to Edward I, to which King, on 13 June 1291, he also swore fealty. He was sum. to be at Shrewsbury for the trial of David ap Griffith, 28 June (1283) II Edw. I, by writ directed Roberto de Brus Comiti de Carrik, his name appearing as 11th and last of the earls who were then sum. His wife, the Countess, having previously died, he, On 27 Oct. 1292, resigned the Earldom of Carrick to his 1st son, though he appears still to have been styled Earl thereof. On 1 Apr. 1295 he succeed. his father (who d. aged about 85), and was made Gov. of Carlisle Castle. On 24 June (1295) 23 Edw. I, he was sum. to Parl. [E.] by writ directed Roberto de Brus, whereby he may be held to have become LORD BRUCE. He was also sum. to attend the King at Salisbury, 26 Jan. (i296/7) -25 Edw. 1.@) He accompanied Edward I into Scotland, and fought 28 Apr. 1296, at the battle of Dunbar. To that King he again swore allegiance 28 Aug. 1296, at Berwick. He m., 2ndly, Eleanor. He resided latterly in England, and d. there or in Palestine, 1304, before 14 June, and was bur. at Holmcultram. His widow m., in 1305/6, as his 1st wife, Richard WALEYS [LORD WALEYS]. She d. between 16 Mar. and 19 Oct. 1330.

Margaret�s Father: Nigel, Earl of Carrick

II. 2. Neil, Earl of Carrick {SCT], son and heir, one of the English faction, and under the protection of Henry III, was appointed one of the Regents of Scotland and Guardians of Alexander III, 20 September 1255. He married Isabel/Margaret, daughter of Walter, High Steward of Scotland. He died 1256. [CP 3:55, 14:151] Neil (d.1256) m. Margaret dau. Walter the steward of Scotland. Neil's father was Duncan (13 Jun 1250) earl of Carrick. Duncan's father was Gilbert son of Fergus (d.1161) lord of Galloway. Gilbert was the brother of Uchtred lord of Galloway. There is some evidence that Fergus' wife was named 'Elizabeth' and that she was possibly related to William II and Henry I of England. CP III:55; Scots Peerage I:135-136, II (sub 'Carrick') Weir gives buried at Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire.

I. DUNCAN, son of GILBERT (who d. I Jan. I I 85), yr. s. of FERGUS, the Celtic LORD or GALLOWAY (who d. 1161), having compromised matters with his cousin Roland, who had rival claims, obtained from King William the Lion, before 1196, the district of Carrick, formed out of the old Cumbriaii Kingdom, part of ancient Galloway, with the title of EARL OF CARRICK [S.]. He took part with King John of England in his Irish wars. He d. 13 June 1250. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick was born after 1163 and/or about 1170. He died on 13 June 1250. He was married to Aveline fitz Alan fitz Walter [aka Aveline STEWART]. Aveline fitz Alan fitz Walter, aka Aveline STEWART

[By Act of Parl. [S.] 27 Nov. 1469 it was declared that ,"THE EARLDOM OF CARRICK" [S.] and other lands and lordships therein mentioned should be annexed for ever to the first born princes of the Kings of Scotland and "it is understood that from this period the Dukedom of Rothesay, the Earldom of Carrick the Lordship of the Isles and Barony of Renfrew [S.] were so vested with the privilege of a Peer of Scotland

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