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   -----Original Message----- 
   From: Murtsell [SMTP:[email protected]] 
   Sent: March 5, 2000 10:49 PM 
   To: Anderson, Jim [KAN:0G15:EXCH]; [email protected] 
   Subject: Smiths of Ancaster 
   Jim and Donna, 
   Maybe you two should compare a few notes. Do keep me informed. I am such 
   a snoop. I guess one has to be to do this sort of family research. 
   Linda 
   > Jim Anderson wrote: 
   >  
   > Hi Linda, 
   >  
   > I received your letter & it proved very useful & now you have me 
   > really interested in this book/books 
   >  
   > It lists both Henry Anderson & John Anderson in Flamborough as early 
   > land owners, in early 1800.  
   > I am also a descendent of Benjamin Smith, Peter Gordon etc.  
   > I was intrigued by the "Wentworth Bygones #6 (1965), page 35: It talks 
   > about a Diary of Benjamin Smith & also mentions Peter Gordon, his 
   > father-in-law & since I am a descendent I am very interested in 
   > anything about them. 
   I will copy those pages and send them off to you. 
   The first paragraph says "This particular John Smith was born on 
   November 17, 1747, at Ludgate Hill near London Bridge, the son of John 
   and Sara Smith. Although his parents never ventured beyond the suburbs 
   of London, John was more venturesome. On March 10, 1772,at age 24, he 
   married Anna Roy, a London girl and sailed for America, settling in 
   Sussex County, NJ where his first six children were born... Ancaster 
   township where he got the crown Patentee...Here he lived until his death 
   on August 4, 1846 at age of 99. His wife Anna died on Sept.8, 1830 aged 
   78. She started the first Methodist class in Ancaster, which developed 
   into Bowman church, and which displays a plaque showing her name at the 
   top of the list of charter members..." 
     
   >  
   > My ANDERSON family mostly lived in Wentworth Co., East & West 
   > Flamborough starting 1800 & gradually migrated outwards to Beverly 
   > (Wm. T. Anderson) & Oxford Co. etc. 
   >  
   > My ANDERSON Genealogy is on 
   > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jima/ 
   >  
   > 1) Would you please send me the pages that deal with Benjamin Smith & 
   > Peter Gordon? 
   > 2) From what you sent me, it looks like there are several books? 
   > Wentworth Bygones #1 to #9? 
   > Who is the Author? 
   > Are these books available from a library so that I could borrow them? 
   > Are they available from some other source? 
   > They look to be fascinating reading, for anyone doing genealogy in 
   > Wentworth Co. 
   Wentworth Bygones appear as separate booklets put out by the Head of 
   the Lake Historical Society, Hamilton, each year with a compilation of 
   speeches/items that were made by their group. Go to the following site 
   and scroll down to the end of the page that first appears..about 
   Hamilton OGS. At the bottom you will see the Head of the Lakes 
   Historical Society ..click. Once there click Publications and the 
   Wentworth Bygones are listed. I got up to Vol 9 as they were the ones 
   listing the Crown Patentees. A chap named Mike replied to my email and 
   sent them before I paid. That doesn't usually happen with the OGS 
   groups. I noticed that one of the publications with former works of long 
   ago has an item on Smithville. 
   I have tried to access the site on its own but it doesn't work unless 
   you go through the Hamilton site. 
   http://www.hwcn.org/link/HBOGS/ 
   > Can I help you in some way? Maybe we have some common ancestors? 
   That is the question. Am I related to the Smith family through Rebecca 
   marrying a MILLS or am I not?? 
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   Here is a copy of an email that was sent to me. Donna doesn't want it 
   sent out on to a list as she didn't compile it.Right now I am in touch 
   with RON COX in Beaconsfield Quebec and so I think you are too, Donna. 
   He is gathering data on Smiths. I am going to type up all I have on John 
   Mills and Rebecca Smith and send it along to him. I haven't typed it as 
   I don't know if they are mine BUT as Ron said it is much easier to work 
   things out if it is entered. Most of my info has come from Mary Lou 
   Bacon in grand Blanc MI. She is a genealogist and is definitely a 
   descendant of Rebecca smith and John Mills through their daughter Sarah 
   marrying a Graham. It will be some time as I do try to run the 
   household and work and there is a LOT of info.See if this makes sense to 
   you, Jim. The Rebecca might be the grand mother of my gr.gr.grandfather 
   John Wesley Mills born 1812 in Dundas...then again maybe she isn't!! 
   From:  
   "John and Donna Cole" <[email protected]> 
   To:  
   "Murtsell" <[email protected]> 
   Hello Linda: 
   Thanks very much for your e-mail. Much has happened since I posted that 
   query. On the same day as I made that posting, I also e-mailed a fellow 
   whose 
   more than 2 yr. old query I had found. He is also a descendant of Jacob 
   Smith 
   U.E. and has been seriously researching the Smith family for many years. 
   He 
   has very generously shared his extensive Smith files with me. 
   In addition, he sent me some general history on this Smith family. 
   They arrived in the summer of 1788, from the Log Jail area of Sussex 
   County, 
   New Jersey. They were of Germanic heritage and their surname was 
   probably originally Schmidt. 
   The following is what I was sent along with the Smith family files. 
   "There was another Smith family in the Log Gaol area at the same time, 
   Joseph b. 1715 and Rachel, who were of English descent. (Silas Smith, 
   U.E.L. 
   and his Descendants, R. Janet Powell, St. Catharines Public Library) 
   Their descendants were:  
   Benjamin, b. 29 April 1739 
   Joseph, b. 13 Aug 1740 
   Jeremiah, b. 13 Sep 1741 
   Othniel, b. 29 May 1743 
   Rebecca, b. 27 Feb. 1744 
   Mary, b. 11 Oct 1746 
   Samuel, b. 7 Feb. 1748 
   Rachel, b. 5 mar 1752 
   John, b. 22 August 1754 
   Silas, b. 15 Apr 1756 
   Sarah, b. 30 Oct 1759 
   Silas married Esther Smith, b. 1 Sep 1756: said to be his cousin, 
   about 
   1780. Esther was the daughter of John and Sarah Smith, also of the Log 
   Gaol 
   area. 
   Because of persecution, Othniel, John, and Silas formed part of the 
   group 
   that arrived in Niagara in July 1787. 
   (I also had ancestors in this group, William Mann and Henry Beamer) 
   John settled on lot 17 Concessions 1 and 2 Grimsby Twp. He married 
   Hannah Wilcox, b. 13 August 1759, d 12 July 1838. John and Hannah are 
   buried in The Fifty burying ground. 
   Silas settled in the area of Fifty Mile Creek with his four small 
   children, to 
   become neighbours of Levi Lewis, the Pettits et al, in what was to 
   become 
   Saltfleet Twp., and receiving 600 acres. 
   Othniel settled in Norfolk County. 
   An Isaac Smith, also from NJ, and believed to be a cousin or half 
   brother 
   of the preceding three, settled in W. Flamborough in 1793. 
   A second John, "Little John", was also part of the 1787 emigration 
   and 
   while initially in Grimsby, ended up in Ancaster after 1798. He was born 
   13 
   Nov. 1747, reputedly in Ludgate, Eng., and married Anna Roy, 10 mar 
   1772. 
   His son William married Charity Smith (daughter of Jacob Smith SR). this 
   family was also from the Germantown-Log Gaol area. 
   A still further Smith-Joseph, came as a single man in 1787, and 
   settled in 
   Louth Twp. He married Margaret House. 
   It is believed the preceding three families are related. 
   That's the Smith families story. 
   This info compilation is not my own work. Please do not quote it 
   directly in a 
   public forum. Thanks. 
   Thanks again Linda for your interest. 
   Regards: 
   Donna 
   > REGARDS....JIM ANDERSON, 3204 Tatlock Rd. RR2 Clayton ON K0A1P0 
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   Here is something I saved but have NOT done anything about. Does it fit 
   with anything either of you 2 know? 
   From:  
   [email protected] 
   To:  
   [email protected] 
   I need help on one of my SMITH lines. My Aunt and I have found the 
   following: 
   Elisha SMITH b. abt 1832 in Canada (both parents born in MA) 
   md in Canada Elizabeth b. abt 1833 in Ireland (both parents born in 
   Ireland) 
   Wilma b abt 1854 in Canada 
   William H. b. January 24, 1856 Hume, Huron Co., MI; d. September 8, 1931 
   Emily b. abt 1858 
   Esther b. abt 1862 
   Laura b. abt 1865 
   Thomas b. abt 1866 
   Sarah b. abt 1871 
   Edward b. abt 1873 
   All children after William born in Hume, Huron Co., MI 
   In 1910 Elisha and Elizabeth were living in Hume, Huron, MI with son 
   Edward  
   and Ph--rs? , his wife, and dau. Mary age 6. 
   William H. SMITH married Pauline MORSE b. January 6, 1863 in Canada; 
   married  
   March 10, 1879. Pauline d. October 13, 1920, but I don't know where. I  
   don't know where they were married (Huron Co?) but they later moved to  
   Crawford Co. MI and in 1885 moved to Central Lake, Antrim Co., Michigan.  
   Children:  
   Gertrude, b. February 18, 1880-May 2, 1936 
   Grace Blanche, July 24, 1881-July 9, 1973 md. Albert (Roy) Rushton Jan. 
   21,  
   1904 
   William E., February 25, 1883-March 18, 1917 
   Any help on any member of this SMITH family will be so very much 
   appreciated.  
   William and Pauline are my great-great-grandparents. I have all of 
   their  
   descendents, but know only what I have written above about the rest of 
   their  
   families. I don't know where in Canada any of them lived or were 
   married.  
   Thank you, 
   Carla Sumner  
   Arlington, TX 
   [email protected] 
   [email protected] 
     
     
   REFERENCE: "Loyalist Ancestors Some Families Of Hamilton Area", 
   The John Smith w Anna Roy > son Benjamin Smith w Nancy Gordon Genealogy to which I am descended is also recorded in the "Loyalist Ancestors Some Families Of Hamilton Area", by The Hamilton Branch UEL's Association of Canada, pub. Pro Familia Genealogical Services Toronto Ont. Can. M6P3B3, copyright 1986. 
   - Page 240 to 243 
   Loyalist John Smith 13 X 1747 - 4 VIII 1846 m. 10 III 1772 Anna Roy 13 IV 1752 - 30 IX 1830 
   II CHILDREN: 
   Benjamin Smith 26 III 1773 - 18 XI 11851 m. 10 XII 1794, Nancy Gordon 15 X 1774 - 27 VII 1854 
   III: CHILDREN: 
   Mary Smith 1795-1878 m. Francis Generoux 
     
   REFERENCE: Smith Family Grimsby & Ancaster Townships - Ref. The Annals Of The Forty: 
   "John Smith who settled first in Grimsby Twp. and later in Ancaster, is believed to be a connection of Smith Family A. His ancestors were of English origin and family tradition gives John's place of birth as Ludgate Hill, London. He was born 13 Nov., 1747, married Anna Roy, 10 Mar. 1772 and shortly afterward they emigrated to New Jersey. In 1787 John & Anna, with their small family, joined other Loyalists in their treck to Canada. John was granted land in Grimsby Twp. -Lot 16, Conc. 1 & 2,. To distinguish him from another John Smith, who lived on the next farm west he was termed "Little John". During the years that John lived At The Forty he served on the Grimsby Twp. Council in 1792 and we find his name on several petitions and documents from 1789 to 1798. In that year John sold his farm to Johnathan Woolverton. One account of the transaction states that John received for 200 acres 40 LB in N.Y. Currency and threw in 5 natural apple trees to bind the bargain. Another account claims that a spotted cow was thrown in for good measure. 
   John Smith, with his older sons & daughters, settled in Ancaster on Lot 46, Conc. 4, where he lived until his death 4 Aug. 1846. at the age of 98 years. Anna, his wife, was born 13 Apr., 1752, died 30 Sept. 1830." 
   Info. Supplied by Fay Pedigree Chart, Ref. Crowell Smith etc. 
   • 1778 - crossed Niagara settled Grimsby. 
   • 1789 - moved to Ancaster, lots 46-47, bought Fiddlers Green Inn. 
     
     
   BENJAMIN SMITH (son of John & Anna) w Nancy A. Gordon 
   The Smith family data is obained from the following references: 
   "Loyalist Ancestors Some Families Of Hamilton Area", by The Hamilton Branch UEL's Association of Canada, pub. Pro Familia Genealogical Services Toronto Ont. Can. M6P3B3, copyright 1986. 
   The Crowell Smith Papers, Hamilton Public Library, Special Collections. 
   "The Annals Of The Forty", Janet Powell, The Grimsby Historical Society, 1950. 
   "Bowman United Church Cemetery" OGS Pub. #4383 and the Crowell Smith Papers (CSP). 
   "Loyalist Lineages Of Canada" National Archives FC424A1L692v.2 Ref

History 
Ref. annals of The Fifty, p 51: 
" Benjamin, b. 26, Mar. 1773, in Sussex Co. New Jersey. He m. Nancy, dau. of Peter Gordon, 10 Dec. 1794, probably at Grimsby, where both families were living at this time. Benjamin settled on lot 48 con. 4, Ancaster Twp. He died 18 Nov. 1851. Nancy was born 15 Oct. 1774." 
Crown Patent for Lot 48 Con. 4 Ancaster, Wentworth Co..1 Objectives and Scope;