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Letters

Page 10

These are letters from visitors dating from June 2007, when the second edition of the Johannes Hahn Family history was launched. The idea is that each of you is seeking information, so perhaps you can learn from each other.

Visit often so you can keep up with who's doing what! (if you don't want your letter printed, let me know. If you wish to contact one of these writers, send the note to me and I will forward it.)


Thanks for the site!

From: Ken Leach ([email protected])
To: Linda Setzer ([email protected])
Date: Saturday, June 09, 2007

Excellent Website!!!!!! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

In my piece on Hahns in Cooke county, place change my email address to [email protected]

Again, Thank You!


Hauns in NC, SC, VA

From: "Dennis Haun"
Subject: Haun family Genealogy search.
Date: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:27 PM

Hi Linda,

I do want to thank you for this information you just sent oh your Hahn genealogy branch. My Haun's were also in N.C. & S.C. as well as Virginia and then onto Eastern Tennessee . I can trace Sebastian ( also listed as Boston ) and George one of I believe 3 or 4 brothers of Sebastian's back to 1783 in Shenandoah Virginia. I come down from the line of Sebastian Haun's son Matthias and wife Mary Hoke Haun:

Matthias Haun - Born 21 Dec 1761, Died 25 April 1828, Mary Haun - Born 24 Nov 1765, Died 14 Feb 1850. Married - 30 Oct 1786 Children were Jacob H - 1788 Abrahan H - 1790, John H - 1792, David H - 1793, Joseph H - 1795, George - 1798, Margaret - 1800, Catherine - 1802, Andrew - Born 9 Nov 1803, Daniel - Bor 1807, Adam - 1808 and William H - 1810.

If you happen to come upon any information on Sabestian or George and I believe Adam as well as Christian Haun please let me know. Thanks again for sharing what you had found.

Dennis Haun Peoria, Illinois.
new e-mail address is [email protected]

Site looks great!

From: Linda Cashen Gaunt ([email protected])
Subject: Re: new Hahn site
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2007

Hi Linda,

Your new site looks great!

I have so much to research on your site, it will take a lot of time.

Thanks for including me,

Linda Cashen Gaunt


Email's the same

From: Clint Daivs ([email protected])
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:06 PM

Hi Linda,

My e-mail is the same.

It's good to hear from you.

I have been inactive for 2-3 years but touch base with the genealogy from time to time. I need to update my data base.

I haven't had time to look at your new site but plan to so as soon as possible.

I am definitely a descendant of Peter Traffenstatt, Jr and Hannah Hawn. My G. Grandmother was born to the above. As found in the 1850 census, she was Mahala Travestret, born 1847, age 3.

Will be in touch.

Clinton (Clint) Davis
Archdale, NC


Connection at Zion Lutheran

From:
Subject: Johannes Hahn
Date: Monday, June 11, 2007

Hi Linda ...

It was great to hear from you. I am glad to know that you are still working on connecting the dots regarding the Hahn genealogy. My own research includes all branches of our family, so I spend a lot of time connecting the dots. Don't we have a rich history?

Johannes Hahn and Elizabetha Margaretha Forster - 5th great grandfather
Joshua Hahn Sr. and Eve Hinkle
Joshua Hahn�Jr. and Catherine Wise
Henry H. Hahn and Mary Martha (Patsy) Silkwood
John Newton Hahn and Mahaha Odessa Pearce
Willis Newton Hahn and Grace Willis Hahn
J.C. Hahn and Nelda Ann Hodge
Linda LaVerne Hahn -- ME!

Anyway, while going over your new site, I checked out the part dedicated to the Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church. There I made a connection that I'd not noticed before ...


In my own work, I have that the father of Henry H. Hahn, Joshua Hahn Jr.'s�father was�Joshua Hahn Sr. who married Elizabeth (Eve) Hinkle in 1790 in Lincoln County, North Carolina. Following Eve's lineage, she�was the daughter of Jacob Henkle and Barbara Mary Deiter. Jacob was the son of Johann Justus (Jost) Henckle and Maria Magdalena Eschmann. Jost was the son of Reverend Anthonius Jacob (Anthony Jacob) Henckel and Maria Elizabeth Dentzer.

Did you know that the Eve Hinkle in my research was the sister of Reverend Paul Henkle ... and your site has Pastor Henkel assisting Pastor Arends in 1803 and�being con�sidered Zion�s second pastor ... are one in the same???


Anthonius Jacobus was the second child and oldest son of Georg. He, no doubt, attended the village school before he entered the University of Giessen on May 5, 1668. He passed his theological examination at the University and was ordained as a Lutheran pastor at Eschelbronn on February 28,1692. He married his second cousin Maria Elizabeth Dentzer (1672 - 1744) at Kirchain, Germany. To them were born the thirteen children.

The following is data secured by Dr. Burt Brown Barker in researching Germany: This entry in the Church Journal of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Daudensell by Reverend Anthony Jacob Henckel: On September 27th my little son, John Melchoir, has been changed from mortality to immortality and given a Christian burial on the 29th of the same month. May he rest in peace, and God will awake him to immortality after that. He had spent his life of 10 years, 7 months, 2 weeks and 2 days." [translation]

This entry in the Church Journal of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Daudensell by Reverend Anthony Jacob Henckel: On September 27th my little son, John Melchoir, has been changed from mortality to immortality and given a Christian burial on the 29th of the same month. May he rest in peace, and God will awake him to immortality after that. He had spent his life of 10 years, 7 months, 2 weeks and 2 days." [translation]

Again in the Daudensell Church Journal: "On September 25th my dear little daughter, Maria Christina, fell sleep peacefully in the arms of our Lord and was buried in a Christian manner on the 28th at the age of 4 years, 7 months, 2 weeks and 2 days." translation]

Once again in the same church journal: "On December 22nd my little daughter Benigna Maria, followed her little sister and paid the debt of nature and was buried in her little ouch on the 23rd with a funeral sermon, a the age of 1 year, 2 months, 3 weeks and 1 day." [translation]

The other two children who died before Anthony came to America are only known by name. No records of their deaths were found. They were the eldest and youngest sons, John Nicholas and John Phillip.

The only child to marry before coming to America was the eldest daughter, Johanna Frederica, who married Valentine Geiger in Germany. They came with the Henckel Family to America.

Anthonius Jacobus was active in the Lutheran ministry, serving five congregations in the Palatinate until June 1717, when he left his last parish at Neckargemund and appears to have reached Philadelphia in the following September.

Three Ships from Rotterdam arrived in Philadelphia in September of 1717: On 19 Sep 1717, ship lists were turned in showing that Captain Richmond had imported 164 immigrants, Captain Tower had imported 91 immigrants, and Captain Eyers had imported 108 immigrants. Among the immigrants listed were Reverend Anthony Jacob Henckel and Valentine Geiger (son-in-law to Reverend Henckel) to Hanover, Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

In 1717, a group of Lutherans, headed by the Reverend Anthony Jacob Henckel and his son-in-law, Valentine Geiger arrived on one of three vessels which reached Philadelphia in September, 1717.

In 1718, Anthony Jacob Henckel acquired a tract of 250 acres in Hanover township, where as Muehlenberg testifies, he "ministered for a number of years to the first settlers of that region."

He was accompanied by seven surviving children, four sons and three daughters, and other companions who formed a colony at New Hanover County, in what is now Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.The land on which they located was largely virgin forest. The colony soon erected dwelling houses, a school house and later a church; hence, it was distinctly a pioneer colony.

Described by his contemporaries as being six feet tall with great physical strength, he was bold and courageous and had a vigorous missionary zeal. As a Lutheran minister, he traveled on horseback as a circuit preacher into the wilderness in southeastern Pennsylvania, to the Germans in Virginia, and to the German Lutheran congregations within distance of his home. Credited with the establishment of the Lutheran Church in Germantown, a memorial tablet was placed in St. Michael's Lutheran Church in Germantown, Pennsylvania in 1917 citing him as the founder and first pastor of St. Michael's Church. On August 17, 1728, as he was returning home one dark night from the sick bed of one of his congregation, his horse stumbled and threw him off. He was taken to the home of Herman Goothausen where he died that night. His wife Maria Elizabetha died January 24, 1744 at seventy-three years of age. They are both buried in St. Michael's Lutheran churchyard, Germantown, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

In his will Anthony Jacob Henckel left to his two youngest sons, John Justus and Anthony Jacob, the 250-acre home farm in New Hanover Township, then in Philadelphia County, now Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

The History of Pendleton County states that he was a Hofprediger or Court Pastor who came to America to serve in Germantown, Pennsylvania. Death was caused by a fall from a horse.

From an old newspaper clipping: Anthony Jacob Hinkle, founder if the first German Lutheran Church in America, in 1717, Old St. Michael's, Germantown, Pa.. Three of the old preacher's sons fought in the battle of Germantown over the grave of the father when the British destroyed the church and pipe organ, scattering the papers over the churchyard.

Keep in touch!
Linda McCallister

Linda, you'll find your contribution to the Hahn history in connection with Zion Church on the Zion Church page in the 2011 edition of the Johannes Hahn Family History.

Great info!

From: David Reynolds ([email protected])
Subject: Re: new Hahn site
Date: Monday, June 11, 2007

Linda, Thanks this is great info please keep me on your mailing list.

Dave Reynolds
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Office of Superfund Remediation and Technology Innovation
P: 703.603.8895
[email protected]

Reader finds an error!

----- Original Message -----
From: Dr. Louis B. Fournier
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007
Subject: Web Site

Nice job on your new web site EXCEPT that the quoted German sentence does not say anything about his death (as you say in the translation):

". . . which reads in German, "John Hahn wahr geboren 12 of Junie, 1712, in Germany Frankanfeld." That is, John Hahn was born June 12, 1712 in Frankanfeld, Germany, and he died in the year 1789 at the age of seventy-seven years."

Louis B. Fournier
Hammond, Louisiana
(A fellow genealogist)
Answer to Louis
From: "Linda Setzer"
To: "Dr. Louis B. Fournier"
Subject: Re: Web Site
Date: Saturday, June 16, 2007

Louis,

Very observant! I took that quote from "A Brief and Condensed Historical Sketch of the Old Pioneer, John Hahn, prepared by G. M. Yoder at the request of A. Q. Hahn, a great-grandson of John Hahn," a document that has been in my family since 1949.

A. Q. Hahn is Abel Quincy Hawn, and he lived 1873-1926.George M. Yoder was a respected historian of the times. You'll find a copy of the document at Sketch by Col. George M. Yoder. The way you saw it is exactly the way it was reported by Mr. Yoder.

I have seen the tombstone but didn't think to see what the exact words were. I suspect Mr. Yoder added the last portion of that paragraph by knowing when Johannes died. Now that you point out an obvious error, I need to make a trip to Zion Lutheran Church to have a look at the tombstone. I have photos of the tombstones but they are not positioned in a way that lets someone read what's on them.

(Note from Linda: It's 2009 and I still have not made that trip!)

(2011 note from Linda: aaarrrgh! I've GOT to make that trip!

Thanks so much for your comments. Comments from you are always welcome.

Linda


Descendant of Andrew Hon

From: "Richard & Judy" <[email protected]>
Subject: Honna
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Linda I am a decendent of Andrew Hon born 1809 Missouri. He wound up in Indianna then came to Kansas. My line is Francis Andrew's first born who married a William Cauble who died in 1865 in Atlanta Ga (Civil War). She then married my GGgrandfather Robert Harris and came to Kansas by way of Iowa. The Hons, And Harris's are buried in High Prairie Cemetery near Benedict Kansas. I found a list of Hauns, Hahn, Honn and Hons and found Andrew but can't find it now from your website The Johannes Hahn your website.

Thanks Richard Payne Ks


Grandfather in Indianapolis

From: "Pat A Hahn" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Hahn tree
Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Thanks, Linda. I need to find the family in Germany. Maybe there's a relationship there. My husband's great grandfather immigrated from Germany in 1873 and lived the rest of his life in Indianapolis. Your family beat his to America, huh?

Patricia Hahn

How do I start a website?

From: [email protected]
To:
Subject: Re: Website
Date: Thursday, June 21, 2007

(Ed wrote with questions about how to start a website:)

Thanks for the replies. I will have sometime to read this weekend and I will follow through with some of your advice. I have some experience on PC's and some on the internet. The internet, though, is in a constant state of flux. I mean that in a good way. It just seems like there is a lot of good, really good in some cases, stuff to keep up with.

I am going to research a basic website as I am not sure how to organize the content. You see I have not done much with organizing the info. When I first started collecting info/docs/images the genealogy programs were confusing. I figured why waste the time. I would continue collecting info/images/pictures and documents. Basically anything I could lay across the scanner. Thank God for Digital cameras. Then the collection got to the point that I created a dbase file for it. Sorry old habits of a mainframer die hard :).�

I think initially it will be a real simple site for the purpose of family exchange, at least at first.

Thanks again for all the input.

Ed


Looking for Solomon Clay

From: "MaryR"
Subject: maybe you can help me re: CLAY, Hahn and CRITES
Date: Friday, July 20, 2007

Linda,

Your webpage came up in a google search. I basically have hit the 'brick wall', in the search of my ancestors. His name was Solomon CLAY b circa 1794 - 1804. My earliest find of him was the 1820 census, West of the South Fork of the Catawba River, Lincoln, CO, N.C. From there, I located him in the 1830 census in Perry Co, Missouri.

The name Hawn, Hahn, various spellings, are all over that part of Missouri. Sooo, hopefully you might have come upon some documents regarding Solomon B. CLAY and his wife, Mary Ann [maiden name unknown].

I have tried to link him to other CLAY's in the Lincoln Co, NC area, e.g., Daniel, Nicholas, Isaac, etc. But I have found not a thread.

Should you have any information on my family, I would love to see it. Thank you in advance.

Mary Ryan
Moline, Illinois


Searching for Henry Conrad (Connor, Cannon) Bolch

From: "Becky Bruce" [email protected]
Subject: Bolch Helton connection?
Date: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 3:53 PM

Hello. My name is Becky Helton Bruce. I am searching for information on Henry Conrad (Connor,Cannon). Bolch. He had a grandson named Franklin M. Helton. Could you give my any idea about Henry? Living next door to Conard in the Catwba County, NC 1900 census is a Jacob Helton, who supposidly married a Louvinia "Vinna" Flowers on 8 JUL 1896 in Catawba County, North Carolina.
ANY information on these lines would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thank You For Your Time!

Becky Helton Bruce
Cleveland, TN


More from Becky

From: "Becky Bruce"
Subject: Re: Bolch Helton connection?
Date: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:31 AM

Linda,

Thank you SO much. I had met a lady named Lela Davis, who is the grandaughter of Frank M. Helton, b. Catawba, NC, died in Robertson, TX. She's been chasing for over 3 yrs. with no luck. I know how that feels, and I wanted to try and help her find some new leads. LOL!
He was listed as grandson to Henry Conrad Bolch. I found that in the earlier census's (1800, 1870), "Conrad" is listed as H. Connor Bolch, and H. Cannon Bolch.
Please keep me in mind, if you ever happen to stumble on anything.
I TRULY appreciate all your replies! It mean alot!


Becky :-)


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