Parents William Mcfie -
Agnes Swan
William Macfie 1821-18xx
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Married Dec
22 1843 Govan
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Catherine
Macfarlane xxxx-xxxx
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There is some information that would lead one to believe from this union there may have been a William who died at birth in 1848,
then there may have been an Angus who may have died at birth in 1849, as there is nothing to colobrate this information ,this line will be left until such time
as more evidence is uncovered
It has been assumed that John McFie (Macfie) involved in the cutting and manufacturing of cork
in the town of Greenock does indeed belong to our family, for he appears to be situated in similar adresses in the town as were my relatives
Parents
Willaim McFie - Margaret Barclay
John Macfie 1795-1884
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Married Dec
24 1824 Greenock,Scotland
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Margaret
McCallum xxxx-1853
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Mary
Macfie 1826-1828
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Mary
Rayside Macfie 1828-1877
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Margaret
Macfie
1834-xxxx
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Janet
Macfie 1836-1912
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1841 Greenock St. guide |
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1851 Census Greenock
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Finally getting access to more census records we see John remained on William St. at one time having two daughters move off on thier own as dress makers.
while John remained at this location until his retirement and withdrawal from the town. Civic numer 1 ,3 ,15 and 17 depending on the dates the city changed the numbering system originated with the establishment of the first Macfie shop on William St,
and the consequnsel changed over to Macfie, Graham & Co.
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1882-83 Greenock St. guide |
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The story goes that Joseph was a cooper working at the sugar refinery and was removed to
the the Liverpool operations when the family set up operations there.
(Parents
William McFie - Margaret Barclay)
Joseph Macfie 1797-1864
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Married Jan.
27, 1823 Greenock,Scotland
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Christian
McLeod 1799-1871
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William Macfie 1823-1889
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Annabelle
Macfie
1826-1878
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Margaret
Barclay Macfie
1829-1907
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John Macfie 1833-1873 |
Jessie Macfie 1836-1910 |
Robert Macfie 1839-1870 |
The 1841 census for Greenock
has the family living at 33 East Shaw St. This may have been the first residence of Joseph and his family, as he has not been found on the earlier Greenock street
directories on which the other Macfie family members are noted
on the 1845 street directory we find Joseph mentioned as being at 19 Bogle St. This mostlikely his business adress
as the Macfie sugar house for whom he coopered was located on the other side of the street . He may have been living over the shop as many tradesmen did at that time.
With an ever increasing family Joseph had reloacted by 1851
Christian McLeod - Macfie is found in 1861 among residents of the Greenock Lunatic Aslyum
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From the notice of Robert's death it seems he died in Liverpool, whether he was still with the the crew of steamship mentioned in the notice
is unsure.
The Macfie sugar operations were situatuated in Liverpool at this time so it might be he had left the sea and was working like his father had done in the family
operation.( more investigation is required - it is known that Joseph was moved to Liverpool to continue his work with the sugar requirments)
It would appear that Christian was released from the Aslyum. Was she declared cured , or did the family decide
she would be better off in thier care will certainly remain a mystery. In any case we find her living at 11 Mearns St. After she died we find a Miss Mcfie
still living at the same address .
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An online record of the 1871 Greenock census was found for this family, living at 11 mearns St. Unfortunately the census takers,
or perhaps the transcribers from the written to the typed information were not too careful, or misunderstood the information as they have recorded the name
Annabella as Alexander even though the person was recorded as (F- female). The fact that the Telegraph neswpaper published back in 1871 indicated Christina Mcleod , widow of Joseph Macfie died at 11 mearns St
it seems the information might a bit more accurate as it was written at time of the event.
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John was second engineer on the SS Durham Castle which went missing after sailing from Holyhead for Suez on the 15th January 1873. He was assumed to be lost at sea.
(Parents
JosephMcFioe -Christian McLeod)
William Macfie 1823-1889
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Married Dec. 29 1854 Saddell
& Skipness ,Scotland
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Mary
McCallum 1831-1901
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William Macfie 1853-1859 |
Joseph
Macfie 1855-1890
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Margaret
Thompson Macfie
1857-1910
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John
Macfie
1859-xxxx
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The marriage was recorded in two different Parishes, which happened from time to time in that period, this only allows us to confirm we have the correct couple
It is to be noted in the more northern part of the country McFie was spelt Macphee , the more common spelling of our family name (associated perhaps a bit closer to the Highlaner aspect of things)
The registration of the death of the child of 6 years, at one time not named and the other showing the name of William has permitted us to determine a birth date
eventhough we have been unable to locate the birth registration
On the 1841 Greenock census William was listed at age 26, unmarried with the occupation of aperntice cooper ,following no doubt in his father's footsteps.
Three years later however we find him married with it seems one child. Unfortunately the next time we locate William, an other three years later is on the 1857-58 Greenock Postal directory listing.
He is found living at 14 Bruce St. in Greenock, a short little street between Inverkip Road and Roxburough st.
There were not many houses on the street itself at that time and William is listed at civic number 14. The changes in William's
life not only involved family, but he is now listed as a weighter.
(For some reason he has given up the occupation of cooper which may have been the closing of the Macfie sugar operation
in Greenock )
The uncorrobrated date of birth for his first child may have played a role in William leaving his father's cooperage business and taking up a position in His Majesty's Customs, an occupation that was his grandfather's)
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Place 1861 Census when located
William remained on Bruce street where we find in 1860-61 his occupation is that of "Locker". From 1860 to 1875 the Greenock Postal directoy has
William living at 16 Bruce, 18 Bruce and finally 20 Bruce street. Whether or not it was the same location as his first residence, with just he civic numbers changing
as house built up on Bruce street, or if in fact William moved his family from time to time is not known, but in any case the family lived on Bruce St for a good 15 years.
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The maps below provide a fair idea of how Bruce street developed, in the ever growing port town of Greenock.
Unfortuantley the area around this part of Bruce st must have been severaly damaged during the Greman Blitz bombing in WWII as there are no house pictures that can be googled
so that we can see just what the houses were like. Most of them contained several lodgings, in which from 4 to 6 familes resided.
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William, after living some 15 years on Bruce St, moved once again. He is listed in the Greenock Postal directory for 1875-76 , still with the occupation
of "Locker" having taken up residence at 12 South St. where he remained for the next five years. William is by then listed as being with H. M .Customs
which appears to be the name of the employer rather than the designation of his function, so whether or not William was still "Locker" or had moved up the department remains unknown.
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Records show William and Mary living with thier children Joseph and Margaret in 1881. where they remained until 1884.
We next find William residing at 18 Mearns St,. The following year 18 became 16 , or William moved once again, but then he remained at 16 Mearns street until his death in 1889,
while he was at his son's residence in Port Glasgow during the Festive Christmas season.
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In 1882 it seems that Margaret left to be on her own as the Postal listing shows her at 22 Brisbane street,
where she seems to have remained for a few years. Margaret does not appear in the Postal listings again until 1890-91, after the death of her brother Joseph
who was living in Port Glasgow, where we assume she was perhaps residing along with her mother (unfortunately there does not seems to be a Postal
listing for Port Glasgow for that period of time)
1881 census has Joseph living with his parents at 66 Roxburgh, his occupation is shipbuider's clerk
(his will was probated in 1891)
There is a Miss Mcfie located at 8 South street at first, then the next year's publication shows a Mrs Mary Mcfie at 24 South St also.
The following year only Mrs William Mcfie is listed . We have assumed Margaret then moved in with her aging mother.
The mother and daughter moved once again as we find Mrs William McFie at 17 Brisbane on the 1894-95 postal Listing.
Mrs William McFie passed away in 1901 while residing at 17 Brisbane and the following year we see only Miss Margaret McFie listed.
Margaret appears on in the Postal directory at this address until her own death in 1910.
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With Margaret's death this line of the family was extinguished.
Have not been able to trace John as there are many listed on the various genealogy sites,
but with no definite brith date to be able to match him to a female counter part.
So until some party provides a bit more conclusive information I have left him as is
( Parents
Joseph McFie - Christian McLeod)
Jessie Macfie 1836-1910
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Married Sept.26 1865 Greenock
,Scotland
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Thomas
Hudson xxxx-xxxx
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Joseph
Thomas Macfie Hudson 1866-1866
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John Bryce Husdon
1868-xxxx
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JoAnn Hudson
1872-xxxx
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The only confirmed information is the death of Joseph Macfie Hudson, the two other children may or may not belong to this famiy.
The Greenock postal listing shows a Mrs D. Mcfie living at 9 Regent st., whether or not Jessie and Thomas were living with her remains the question .
We have not been able to trace a Mrs D. Mcfie to any one in this line of the family, so they are not connected, or Jessie and Thomas do not belong to Joseph Mcfie's family
and this particular section of our web oage is erronous.
We know from the death notice of Jessie Macfie, that Thomas Hudson was an engineer, who may have been a companion to her two brothers who were both engineers.
Jessie is listed a a widow, however since we have found no notice of Thomas's demise it is very difficult to establish a timeline . Jessie's brother Robert having died in 1870, and John in 1873 which was early in thier lives
causes us to believe the same of Thomas. This is further substanciated by the finding that only Mrs T Hudson appears in the Greenock Postal listings from 1870 on ward.
The next reference we find , again in the Greenock post listing for 1870-71, there is a Mrs T Hudson at 27 Regent St.
The following year while she is still listed at 27 Regent as having shop, her home address is # 11 Mearns St, where we have already located a Mrs Macfie,
who has been shown to be Mrs Christian McLeod Mcfie, her mother.
In the 1872-73 Postal directory we see Mrs T Hudson still at 11 Mearns, but now there is only a Miss Mcfie listed at this address. We know for a fact
that Christian Mcleod McFie past away in 1871, so have assumed that this Miss McFie could be one of Jessie's sister, either Annabella or Margart B.
Both Jessie Hudson and we are assuming one of her sisters remained at this location until some time in 1876
infact it appears they were the only two people living in the lodging for a while, there are no other tennants listed in the directoy.
The 1875-76 postal directory shows that both parties moved once more, taking up lodging with a group of neigbours at 16 Mearns St.
Unfortunately both 11 Mearns and 16 Mearns seesm to have been torn down, no doubt as a result of the German Blitz bombing in WWII
1877-78 appears to be the last time we find both sisters living at 16 Mearns St in Greenock
Jessie Hudson seems to have removed herself from Greenock for a period of time. There is one Mrs Fanny Hudson, who has a lodging house at 6 Blackhall,
and is listed in the Postal directory from 1880 to 1883, but we are uncertain this is the one in the same as "Fanny" was at the time a familiar named given to those females who were named "Euphemia ".
We do find a Jessie Hudson recorded on the 1891 census as we assume her sister Margaret. As they are recorded with the same registry number we assumed they were living at the same address
and we find Margaret living at # 4 Finnart St.. Unfortunately, it is not until 1893 that the name Hudson appears on the Postal directoy for that address and then it appears at first as Miss Hudson.
It changes to Mrs Hudson in 1906 and then both Macfie and Hudson disappear from the address of #4 Finnart st., Margaret Macfie died in 1907.
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With the death of Jessie Hudson, this family line is brought to its end.
( Parents
William McFie - Margaret Barclay)
Mary Macfie 1809-1874
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Married Dec. 22 1839 Greenock
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James
Rhind
1807-1851
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In the 1841 Census we find this family listed in Greenock East Parish .
The group moves to 7 Chapel St, before 1845 and there we find James Rhind listed separately
Unfortunately little has been found regarding this family. We have found them moved to Elgin by 1850, where James appears on a voters list
as a civil engineer. We have assumed perhaps he went to Greenock to inprove his skills as mason which developed into an engineering profession, differerent from most Greenock
engineers who found position on steam ships. James is listed in the Elgin Postal direction as residing at #7 West Row , where he is counted in the 1851 Scottish Census.
His wife and one child , a daughter resides with him as does his mother in law who came up from Greeonock, her husband of His Majesty's Customs having passed away before some time before 1841.
James and his wife Mary as far as we can determine had but one child Mary who was born in Greenock.
At the time of the recording of the 1861 census, it was found Mary McFie Rhind's niece Marion McFie
( daughter of William McFie and Agness Swan) was in Elgin visiting
Mary Rhind married a solicitor in Elgin in 1869. Her mother Mary McFie of Greenock died in 1874
James's parents may have been Alexander Rhind and Mary Ord.
(Parents
James Rhind & Mary Macfie)
Mary Rhind 1842-1880
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Married Dec. 8 1869 Elgin ,Scotland
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Hugh Stewart 1840-1914
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James Rhind Stewart 1870-1908 |
Annie Stewart 1872-1903 |
Mary Stewart 1874-1877 |
Hugh Stewart 1875-1914 |
Lena Stewart 1877-19xx |
David Stewart 1877-19xx |
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Russell Fraser has posted on RootsWeb's Worldconnect more of the Stewart family
According to Mr Fraser, Hugh Stewart the father remarried in 1883. Hugh Stewart died in Canada, James R Stewart died in New Zealand,
he makes no mention of the David Stewart born in 1877 apparently twin to Lena so whether that particular record I show is correct or not remains to be seen. Mr Fraser does have the younger
David
the one shown on the tombstone , this is a child from the second marriage.
I think I have now managed to align this family properly, however if any one believes
I am not correct in my assumptions please let me know so I can adjust the
information on this particular family page, thank you .