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2011090482. William De BRIWERE Lord Of Sumburne & Torre,415,877,878,879,880,881 son of Henry De BRIWERE Of Stoke and Miss WALTON, was born about 1145 in Little Bytham, Lincolnshire, England 882 and died in 1226 in Little Somborne, Hampshire, England 883 about age 81.

General Notes: William Briwere, Sheriff of Bucks, Berks, Derbys, Devon, Nottingham and Oxon. [Burke's Peerage

Lord of Torre, Devonshire and of Horsley, Derbyshire. He gained control of the Horsley estate and was also granted the honour of the Lavendon estate in 1204.

Founded Dunkeswell Abbey.

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The following information was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

Sir William DE BRIWERRE. Lord of Horsley (DRB) Born circa 1145. Married Beatrice DE VAUX / DE VALLE. Sheriff of Devon for 10 years, until his death in 1227 in the reign of Henry III. After 1189 Itinerant Justice for King Richard. Seat: Bridgwater, Somersetshire. Circa 1192 "Richard employed his exceptional talents by making him an Itinerant Justice and an ambassador to the French court where he was instrumental in drawing up the terms for Richard's release from captivity, and on that king's second absence abroad Brewer was one of the 4 Justiciars appointed to guard the realm." (*Gladwin, Sheriff). Held the honour of Plympton as a Redvers tenant. Died in 1226 (Burke's Landed Gentry) (Weis, AR.). Died in 1227 (*Gladwin, Sheriff). *Irene Gladwin, The Sheriff: The Man and his Office. London: Victor Gollancz Ltd, 1974 [Ref: Pat Patterson <[email protected]> message to soc.genealogy.medieval 23 Feb 2001]

baron and judge, and a justice itinerant, 1187; bought land at Ileshal, Devon; was one of the four justices to whom Richard I, on leaving England, entrusted the charge of the kingdom; went to Worms to assist Richard I, then in captivity, at his interview with the Emperor, Henry VI, 1193; founded the Abbeys of Torr and Dunkeswell, and the Nunnery of Polslo, in Devon, and the Abbey on Mottisfont in Southants; became lord of Somborne near Southampton, and Sheriff of Devon, co. Oxford, co. Buchingham, Berks., Northants, and co. Derby; supported John against the Barons; assisted at the coronation of Henry III 1216; was one of the Barons of the Exchequer 1221; received a grant of the manor of Bridgewater, where he founded the Hospital of St. John Baptist [Ref: Watney p156]

In 1190 the Manor of King's Somborne was granted to William Briwere, a loyal servant of the Plantaganet kings, who made him one of the most powerful men in the realm, and rewarded him handsomely. Among other offices he was at various times sheriff of Hampshire and of other counties, (including Nottingham while Richard Coeur-de Lion was on a Crusade: this makes him Robin Hood's notorious adversary). He also signed Magna Carta. Though much disliked and an extortioner, his family married well: one of his descendants married Henry of Lancaster: their daughter, Blanche, who inherited the Manor in 1362, married John of Gaunt; the Manor then passed to their son, Henry Bolingbroke, who in 1399 became King Henry IV. The Manor remained a royal possession till the time of Charles I.

In 1200 William Brewer received from King John a licence to fortify a castle at Ashley: Ashley church had stood for over half a century already, so William's bailey was built around it. Subsequently the King stayed there to hunt in the Forest of Bere. In 1201 Brewer (sic) founded a Priory of Augustinian Canons at Mottisfont; his son gave them the church of King's Somborne: from 1207 till the dissolution of the Monastery the Priory appointed the vicars of King's Somborne, and no doubt the priests to serve at the altars and chantry. His brother John presented Little Somborne to the Priory, and there is unreliable evidence that a third brother, Peter de Rivaulx, was a monk there of some sanctity, known as 'the Monk in the Wall'. [Ref: HISTORY OF THE CHURCH OF ST PETER & ST PAUL, KINGS SOMBORNE http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages/somchurc.htm]

Regards,
Curt

William married Beatrice De Vallibus De VAUX 877,878,884,885 in 1175 in 2ND Husband. Beatrice was born about 1160 in Gilsland, Irthington, Cumberland, England and died from 24 March 1216 to 1217 in Stoke, Devonshire, England 886 about age 56. Another name for Beatrice was Beatrice De VALLE.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Marjorie (Margaret) De BRIWERE was born about 1176 in Stoke, Devonshire, England and died before 1237 887.

1005545241      ii.  Isabel De BRIWERE (born about 1180 in Stoke, Devonshire, England - died before 10 June 1233)

              iii.  Grecia (Grace) De BRIWERE was born about 1183 in Stoke, Devonshire, England and died before 1215 879,885.

               iv.  Alice De BRIWERE was born about 1187 in Torre, Devonshire, England and died after 1233 888,889.

                v.  Joan De BRIWERE was born in 1190 in Stoke, Devonshire, England and died before 12 June 1233 880.


2011090483. Beatrice De Vallibus De VAUX,415,877,878,884,885 daughter of Herbert De VAUX Sir and Grace, was born about 1160 in Gilsland, Irthington, Cumberland, England and died from 24 March 1216 to 1217 in Stoke, Devonshire, England 886 about age 56. Another name for Beatrice was Beatrice De VALLE.

General Notes: The following information was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

Beatrice de Valle (or Vaux), wife of William Briwerre, was almost certainly the daughter of Hubert de Vaux, baron of Gilsland (see ID 20718?), Cumberland, by his wife, Grace.

The evidence for this is slim but compelling. Beatrice had property in Devonshire as her maritagium. The early history of this property is shrouded.

However, Hubert de Vaux is known to have owned property in Devonshire, and probably lived there during part of his life. Beatrice de Valle had a daughter Grace Briwerre who I presume was named for her mother, Grace de Vaux. Grace was rather rare as a woman's name in that period. I have proven that William Briwerre acquired property from one of Beatrice's Vaux brothers and I have proven that William Briwerre was involved in a suit with the widow of another brother. If nothing else, this proves that the two families knew each other well.

I should also note that Beatrice de Valle was almost certainly the mother of Henry Fitz Count, bastard son of Reginald, Earl of Cornwall. This is indicated by two successive charters which unfortunately I don't have in hand. In these two charters, Henry Fitz Count makes a gift to some religious house and in the next charter, Beatrice's Briwerre son refers back to his "brother" without naming him, as if the parties understood who he meant. This would only make sense if the two charters were recorded at the same time and if Henry Fitz Count was the "brother" named by Beatrice's Briwerre son. The charters are published in Monasticon Exoniensis.

The name Vaux, by the way, was usually written in Latin as Vallibus but I have seen it on rare occasions as Valle. Beatrice's maiden name is given as Valle in one charter I have seen. [Ref: Douglas Richardson 25 Jan 1999 message to soc.genealogy.medieval]

Research note: numerous listings on Rootsweb Worldconnect show the above Reginald (de Dunstanville), Earl of Cornwall (bastard son of Henry I by Sybil Corbet) as Beatrice de Valle/Vaux's father & Beatrice Mortaigne/Mortain or Beatrice fitzRichard as her mother, but sources are lacking... Curt

Regards,
Curt

Beatrice married Reynold De DUNSTANVILLE 1st Earl Of Cornwall,891,892,893,894 son of Duke & Lion Of Justice Henry I "Beauclerc" King Of ENGLAND and Sibyl (Adela) (Lucy) CORBET Lady Of Alcester, before 1174 in No Marriage.890 Reynold was born about 1096 in Dunstanville, Kent, England,389,390,895 died on 1 July 1175 in Chertsey, Surrey, England (Dspms Legit) 389,390,893,896 about age 79, and was buried in Abbey, Reading, Berkshire, England.389,390 Other names for Reynold were 01st Earl Of CORNWALL Reginald De Dunstanville, and Reginald FITZROY Earl Of Cornwall.897

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Henry FITZCOUNT Earl Of Cornwall was born before 1175 in Cornwall, England 898 and died in 1222 in As A Crusader 898.

Beatrice next married William De BRIWERE Lord Of Sumburne & Torre 877,878,879,880,881 in 1175 in 2ND Husband. William was born about 1145 in Little Bytham, Lincolnshire, England 882 and died in 1226 in Little Somborne, Hampshire, England 883 about age 81.

2011090486. Roland Lord Of GALLOWAY Constable Of Scotland,415,505,516,899,900,901 son of Uchtred Lord Of GALLOWAY and Gunnild Of DUNBAR, was born in 1164 in Galloway, Dumfries And Galloway, Scotland, died on 19 December 1200 in Northamptonshire, England 900,902 at age 36, and was buried in Priory Of St Andrew, Northampton, England.

General Notes: The following information was in a post-em from Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

1189-1200: Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland [Ref: Weis AR7 38:25]

Roland, the father of Alan and Thomas, obtained extensive estates in the shires of Northampton, Huntingdon, and Bedford, in right of his wife, Elena de Moreville [Ref: Turton]

"During the 1180s the king [William the Lion] struck up an alliance with Lachlan (or 'Roland'), lord of Galloway, who had married into the Anglo-Norman family of Moreville, and whose change of name neatly captures the interaction that was beginning between the native and foreign cultures. When in 1187 William was again faced by a northern uprising, it was Roland who captured its leader, Donald mac William, a distant kinsman of the king". p. 59: "Roland of Galloway's marriage to the Moreville heiress expanded the family's interests." [Ref: Political Development of the British Isles 1100-1400, by Robin Frame, Oxford, 1990, p. 42]

"Roland, Lord of Galloway, the son of Uchtred. On the death of his uncle, Gilbert, in 1185, Roland rose in arms, and possessed himself of all of Galloway." Henry II threatened to invade in 1186; Roland agreed to swear fealty, give his three sons as hostages, and keep Uchtred's lands. Gilbert's son Duncan got Carrick. "Roland greatly increased his lands by marrying Eva, Ela, or Helena, daughter of Richard de Moreville, Constable of Scotland, who died 1196. Roland inherited the office of Constable. Issue: 1. Alan. 2. Thomas, Earl of Atholl. 3. ---, hostage in 1186. Daughter Ada married Sir Walter Bisset." [Ref: "Peerage of Scotland" by John Philip Wood, Edinburgh, 1813, v 1, pp. 612-13]

"On the death of the cruel Gilbert in 1185, Roland, son of Uchtred, claimed the lordship of Galloway. . . . Roland, the father of Alan and Thomas, obtained extensive estates in the shires of Northampton, Huntingdon, and Bedford, in right of his wife, Elena de Moreville (Joseph Bain, "Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland", vol. i, p. 47)." [Ref: A History of Dumfries and Galloway" by Sir Herbert Maxwell, Edinburgh, 1896, p 56]

"In 1200 Lachlan, alias Roland, son of Uhtred lord of Galloway, remembered . . . that his wife Helen de Morville, heir of her father Richard and of her grandmother Beatrice de Beauchamp, was entitled to four knights' fees respectively at Bozeat, Northants, Whissendine and Whitwell in Rutland, Offord in Huntingdonshire, and Houghton Conquest beside Bedford--the 5 hides at Houghton having been originally acquired by Hugh de Beauchamp, Beatrice's grandfather, probably not long before 1086." [Ref: The Anglo-Norman Era in Scottish History" by G.W.S. Barrow, Oxford, 1980, p 17]

Regards,
Curt

Roland married Elena De MORVILLE 899,900,901 in Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England. Elena was born about 1170 in Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England and died on 11 June 1217 in Abbey Of Dundren, Kirkcudbright, Scotland 900 about age 47. Another name for Elena was Elena De MOREVILLE.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Alan Of GALLOWAY Constable Of Scotland was born about 1186 in Galloway, Dumfries And Galloway, Scotland and died in 1234 in Abbey Of Dundren, Kirkcudbright, Scotland 903 about age 48.

               ii.  Thomas Of GALLOWAY Earl Of Atholl was born about 1190 in Galloway, Dumfries And Galloway, Scotland and died in 1237 904 about age 47.

1005545243     iii.  Devorguilla Of GALLOWAY Heiress Of Whissendine (born about 1195 in Galloway, Dumfries And Galloway, Scotland - died in Whissendine, Oakham, Rutlandshire, England)


2011090487. Elena De MORVILLE,415,505,899,900,901 daughter of Richard De MORVILLE Constable Of Scotland and Avice De LANCASTER, was born about 1170 in Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England and died on 11 June 1217 in Abbey Of Dundren, Kirkcudbright, Scotland 900 about age 47. Another name for Elena was Elena De MOREVILLE.

Elena married Roland Lord Of GALLOWAY Constable Of Scotland 516,899,900,901 in Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England. Roland was born in 1164 in Galloway, Dumfries And Galloway, Scotland, died on 19 December 1200 in Northamptonshire, England 900,902 at age 36, and was buried in Priory Of St Andrew, Northampton, England.

2011090576. Maurice Le BOTELER Of Oversley,415 son of Ralph Le BOTELER Of Oversley and Unknown First WIFE, was born about 1185 in Oversley, Alcester, Warwickshire, England.

General Notes: Maurice Boteler, one of the justices of assize for the co. of Warwick in the 13th and 16th Henry III [1229 and 1232], and a commissioner for assessing and collecting the fourteenth part of all men's movable goods, according to the form and order then appointed. This feudal lord filled the office of justice of assize for the same shire a second and third time, and was repeatedly justice for the gaol delivery at Warwick in the same king's reign. He was s. by his son, Ralph Boteler. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 63, Boteler, Barons Boteler, of Oversley and Wemme]

Maurice married.

The child from this marriage was:

1005545288       i.  Ralph Le BOTELER Lord Of Oversley (born about 1220 in Oversley, Alcester, Warwickshire, England - died on 3 July 1281)


2011090578. William PANTULF Lord Of Wemme,415,505,611,682 son of Hugh PANTULF Lord Of Wemme and Christian FITZALAN, was born about 1171 in Wem, Shropshire, England and died from January 1233 to 1234 682 about age 62.

William married Hawise FITZWARIN Heiress Of Narborough 682 before JAN 1225/26 in 1st Husband.682 Hawise was born about 1207 in Narborough, Blaby, Leicestershire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005545289       i.  Maud PANTULF Heiress Of Wemme (born about 1226 in Wem, Shropshire, England - died before 6 May 1289)


2011090579. Hawise FITZWARIN Heiress Of Narborough,415,505,682 daughter of Fulk III FITZWARIN Of Whittington & Lambourn and Maud Le VAVASOUR, was born about 1207 in Narborough, Blaby, Leicestershire, England.

General Notes: The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 3 Jan 2004, by John Ravilious:

1.1.1a.2a Hawise FitzWarin*

had Narborough, co. Leics. as her maritagium:

her half-brother Theobald Walter brought suit of mort d'ancestor against Fulk FitzWarin (her brother), Jan 1226 to recover manor of Edlington. co. York and against Hawise and her husband William Pantulf to recover Narborough, co. Leics. [failed] -see Meisel, pp. 98-99

she m. lstly William Pantulf,
2ndly Hubert Huse

Spouse: William Pantulf
Death: Jan 1233[1]
Father: Hugh Pantulf (-1224)
Marr: bef Jan 1226

Children: Elizabeth (-<1246)
Maud (-<1289)

Hawise married William PANTULF Lord Of Wemme 611,682 before JAN 1225/26 in 1st Husband.682 William was born about 1171 in Wem, Shropshire, England and died from January 1233 to 1234 682 about age 62.

Hawise next married Hubert HUSE 682 after 1234 in 2ND Husband.682 Hubert was born about 1207 in England.


2011090580. Madog Ap GRUFFUDD Lord Of Bromfield,415,505,591 son of Gruffudd "Maelor" Ap MADOG Lord Of Maelor and Angharad Verch OWAIN, was born about 1185 in Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales and died in 1236 in Bromfield, Ludlow, Shropshire, England about age 51.

Madog married Gwladus Verch ITHEL. Gwladus was born about 1185 in Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Iorwerth Ap MADOG was born about 1215 of Carrog And Trewyn, Montgomery, Wales.

1005545290      ii.  Gruffudd Ap MADOG Prince Of Powys (born about 1218 in Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales - died on 7 December 1269 in Bromfield, Ludlow, Shropshire, England)


2011090581. Gwladus Verch ITHEL,415,505 daughter of Ithel Ap RHYS and Gwenllian Verch HYWEL, was born about 1185 in Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales.

Gwladus married Madog Ap GRUFFUDD Lord Of Bromfield.591 Madog was born about 1185 in Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales and died in 1236 in Bromfield, Ludlow, Shropshire, England about age 51.

2011090582. Henry De AUDLEY Of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford,415,505,683,905,906 son of Adam De AUDLEY and Emma FITZORM, was born about 1175 in Audley, Staffordshire, England 907 and died before 19 November 1246 in Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England 907. Another name for Henry was Henry De ALDITHELEY.

General Notes: Henry of Aldithley, 2nd son of Adam of Aldithley, (who d. bet. 1203 and 1211) by Emma, daughter of Ralf fitz Orm, of Darlaston, Staffs; was b. about 1175; with his father, he was witness to a charter of Harvey Bagot in 1194. He bought large estates from Eleanor Malbank in 1214; in 1227 he acquired the manors of Edgmund and Newport, and in 1230 that of Ford, all in Salop, and all held by him direct from the Crown, though not by military or knight service. He was Under Sheriff of Salop and co. Stafford 1217-20, and Sheriff 1227-32; was in command of the Welsh Marches 1223-46. He built the castle of Heligh, co. Stafford; and Red Castle, Salop. In 1223 he founded Hulton Abbey. He was appointed Custodian of Chester and Beeston Castle, 22 June 1237, on the extinction of the the earldom of Chester. He m. in 1217, Bertred, daughter of Ralf Mainwaring, Seneschal of Chester. He d. in 1246, shortly bef. Nov. His widow was living in 1249. She was buried in Hulton Abbey. [Complete Peerage I:337 XIV:50]

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"That this family of Alditheley, vulgarly called Audley," says Dugdale, "came to be great and eminent, the ensuing discourse will sufficiently manifest: but that the rise thereof was no higher than King John's time, and that the first who assumed this surname was a branch of that ancient and noble family of Verdon, whose chief seat was at Alton Castle in the northern part of Staffordshire, I am very inclined to believe; partly by reason that Henry had the inheritance of Alditheley given him by Nicholas de Verdon, who d. in the 16th Henry III [1232], or near that time; and partly for that he bore for his arms the same ordinary as Vernon did. . .so that probably the ancestor of this Henry first seated himself at Alditheley: for that there hath been an ancient mansion there, the large moat, northwards from the parish church there (somewhat less than a furlong, and upon the chief part of a fair ascent), do sufficiently manifest."

Henry de Alditheley, to whom Dugdale alludes above, being in great favour with Ranulph, Earl of Chester and Lincoln (the most powerful subject of England in his time), obtained from that nobleman a grant of Newhall in Cheshire with manors in Staffordshire and other parts--and for his adhesion to King John, in that monarch's struggle with the insurrectionary barons, a royal grant of the lordship of Storton in Warwickshire, part of the possessions of Roger de Summerville. In the first four years of King Henry III [1216-1220], he executed the office of sheriff for the counties of Salop and Stafford as deputy for his patron, the great Earl Ranulph. In the 10th of Henry III [1226], this Henry de Alditheley was appointed governor of the castles of Carmarthen and Cardigan and made sheriff the next year of the counties of Salop and Stafford and constable of the castles of Salop and Bridgenorth, which sheriffalty he held for five years. Upon his retirement from office, he had a confirmation of all such lands whereof he was then possessed as well those granted to him by Ranulph, Earl of Chester, and Nicholas de Verdon, as those in Ireland given him by Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster, whose constable he was in that province. He subsequently obtained divers other territorial grants from the crown, but, notwithstanding, when Richard Mareschall, Earl of Pembroke, rebelled and made an incursion into Wales, the king, Henry III, thought it prudent to secure the persons of this Henry and all the other barons-marchers. He was afterwards, however, constituted governor of Shrewsbury in place of John de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln, and, on the death of John, Earl of Chester, governor of the castle of Chester, and also that of Beeston, then called the "Castle on the Rock," and soon after made governor of Newcastle-under-Lyne. This powerful feudal baron m. Bertred, dau. of Ralph de Meisnil-warin, of Cheshire, and had a son, James, and a dau., Emme, who m. Griffith ap Madoc, Lord of Bromefield, a person of great power in Wales. He d. in 1236, having founded and endowed the Abbey of Hilton near to his castle at Heleigh, in Staffordshire, for Cistercian monks, and was s. by his son, James de Alditheley. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 15, Audley, Barons Audley, of Heleigh]

Henry married Bertrade (Bertred) De MAINWARING 683,905,907 in 1217.907 Bertrade was born about 1196 in Mainwaring, Bersted, Sussex, England and died after 1249 in Hulton Abbey, Staffordshire, England 907.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545291       i.  Emma De AUDLEY (born about 1218 in Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England - died after February 1264-1265)

               ii.  James De AUDLEY Of Heleigh, Sheriff Of Salop was born about 1220 in Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England 647,908 and died on 11 June 1272 in Broke His Neck In Ireland 908 about age 52. Another name for James was James De ALDITHLEY.

              iii.  Alice De AUDLEY was born about 1222 in Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England and died after 4 August 1265 909.


2011090583. Bertrade (Bertred) De MAINWARING,415,505,683,905,907 daughter of Ralph De MAINWARING Of Warmincham, Justice and Amicia De Kevelioc De MESCHINES, was born about 1196 in Mainwaring, Bersted, Sussex, England and died after 1249 in Hulton Abbey, Staffordshire, England 907.

General Notes: He [Henry of Aldithley] m. in 1217, Bertred, daughter of Ralf Mainwaring, Seneschal of Chester. He d. in 1246, shortly bef. Nov. His widow was living in 1249. She was buried in Hulton Abbey. [Complete Peerage I:337 XIV:50]

Bertrade married Henry De AUDLEY Of Heleigh, Sheriff-Stafford 683,905,906 in 1217.907 Henry was born about 1175 in Audley, Staffordshire, England 907 and died before 19 November 1246 in Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England 907. Another name for Henry was Henry De ALDITHELEY.

2011090584. Roger De HERDEBURGH Of Willey 415 was born about 1198 in Willey, Warwickshire, England.

Roger married Petronilla De CRAFT. Petronilla was born about 1198 in Willey, Warwickshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005545292       i.  Hugh De HERDEBURGH Of Willey (born about 1224 in Willey, Warwickshire, England - died after 1296)


2011090585. Petronilla De CRAFT,415 daughter of Roger De CRAFT Of Willey and Cecily De TURVILLE, was born about 1198 in Willey, Warwickshire, England.

Petronilla married Roger De HERDEBURGH Of Willey. Roger was born about 1198 in Willey, Warwickshire, England.


2011090948. Sir Richard CORBET Of Moreton Corbet, Sir Knight,415,505,631,633,910 son of Sir Richard CORBET Lord Of Wattlesboro and Unknown, was born about 1191 in Watlesborough, Cardeston, Shropshire, England 389,390 and died before 1235 in Moreton Corbet, Wem, Shropshire, England 389,390,633.

General Notes:
He occurs from 1195 to 1217. He seems to have died before his father-in-law, as it is his son who succeeded to the Toret Moreton estates. 633

Richard married Joan De MORTON-TORET Heiress Of Morton Toret 633,910 about 1211 in Moreton Corbet, , Shropshire, England 389,390.,633 Joan was born about 1195 in <, Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England> 389,390 and died before 1239 389,390. Another name for Joan was Johanna De MORTON.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545474       i.  Richard CORBET Baron Of Corbet (born about 1212 in Moreton Corbet, , Shropshire, England - died in 1255)

               ii.  Reginald CORBET was born about 1214 in Moreton Corbet, , Shropshire, England 389,390 and died about 1233 389,390 about age 19.


2011090949. Joan De MORTON-TORET Heiress Of Morton Toret,415,505,631,633,910 daughter of Bartholomew DE MORETON Of Morton Toret and Mrs. Bartholomew De MORTON-TORET, was born about 1195 in <, Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England> 389,390 and died before 1239 389,390. Another name for Joan was Johanna De MORTON.

General Notes:
She is also called Joan Toret. She was in her issue her father's coheiress. 633

Joan married Sir Richard CORBET Of Moreton Corbet, Sir Knight 633,910 about 1211 in Moreton Corbet, , Shropshire, England 389,390.,633 Richard was born about 1191 in Watlesborough, Cardeston, Shropshire, England 389,390 and died before 1235 in Moreton Corbet, Wem, Shropshire, England 389,390,633.

2011090964. Ralph De SOMERY Lord Of Dudley & Dinas Powis,505,911,912 son of John De SOMERY Of Little Crawley, Sir and Hawise PAYNEL, was born about 1167 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England and died on 29 September 1210 913 about age 43.

General Notes: Ralph de Somery, Baron Dudley, held Dudley and Dinas Powis, d. 1211; m. Margaret, sister of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke & daughter of John Marshal by (2) wife Sibyl, daughter of Walter of Salisbury. [Ancestral Roots]

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RALPH DE SOMERY, son and heir. In 1194-9 5 he offered 300 marks to have seisin of the barony which was of his mother's brother, Gervase Paynel; and in the same year was returned as owing 50 l. scutage for the King's ransom. In November 1193 he had been at Speyer with the King. In 1199-1200 he was in the King's service overseas; in 1201-02 he paid a fine of 100 marks for 50 knights not to cross; in 1202/3 he was directed to take from the Jews of Domfront 50 l, to pay soldiers. By charter dated 23 August 1204 the King granted him the manor of Mere in exchange for the manor of Wolverhampton. In the same year he is recorded as having held ½ fee at Rouilli (in the Passeis). He married Margaret, sister of William (MARSHAL), EARL OF PEMBROKE, and daughter of John FITZGILBIERT the Marshal, by his 2nd wife Sibyl, sister of Patrick (DE SALISBURY), 1st EARL OF WILTSHIRE. He died Michaelmas 1210. His widow married, 2ndly, Maurice DE GANT, and was living in 1242-43. [Complete Peerage XII/1:110-11, XIV:586 [transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, Abt 1151.

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death Dinas, Cardigan, Pembrokeshire, Wales, 1211. 856

Ralph married Margaret Fitz Gilbert MARSHAL 662,862,873,914,915 in 1st Husband.873 Margaret was born about 1160 in Pembroke Castle, Dyfed, Wales and died about 1243 873 about age 83.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Ralph De SOMERY Lord Of Dudley was born about 1186 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England and died in 1212 in (Dsp) 795 about age 26.

1005545482      ii.  Roger De SOMERY Lord Of Dudley & Dinas Powis (born about 1190 in Dinas, Cardigan, Pembrokeshire, Wales - died before 26 August 1273 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England)

              iii.  Joan De SOMERY was born in 1191 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England and died after 1273 in St Augustine's Priory, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England 545,916.

               iv.  Stephen De SOMERY was born about 1193 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England and died in 1247 about age 54.

                v.  William Perceval De SOMERY Of Dudley, Sir was born about 1195 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England and died before 20 June 1222 917.


2011090965. Margaret Fitz Gilbert MARSHAL,399,415,505,662,862,873,914,915 daughter of John "The Marshal" FITZGILBERT Of Rockley and Sibyl De SALISBURY, was born about 1160 in Pembroke Castle, Dyfed, Wales and died about 1243 873 about age 83.

General Notes:
Dau. of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke; m. Ralph de Somery; mother of Roger de Somery. [Ancestral Roots, p. 59]

Dau. of John the Marshall Fitzgilbert and Sibilia/Sibyl de Salisbury; m. ?? Somery, Lord Dudley; father of Joan who m. Thomas the Observer Berkeley. [WFT Vol 6 Ped 1382]

Dau. of John Fitz Gilbert Marshall and Sybill of Salisbury. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD#100]

Noted events in her life were:

• Lived: Warwickshire, England.

Margaret married Maurice Fitzharding De GAND 866 after 1210 in 2ND Husband.866 Maurice was born about 1170 in East Quantoxhead, Williton, Somerset, England and died in 1230 in Irnham, Bourne, Lincolnshire, England 918 about age 60.

Margaret next married Ralph De SOMERY Lord Of Dudley & Dinas Powis 911,912 in 1st Husband.873 Ralph was born about 1167 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England and died on 29 September 1210 913 about age 43.

2011090966. William D' AUBIGNY 3rd Earl Of Arundel,415,505,919,920,921 son of William D' AUBIGNY 2nd Earl Of Arundel and Maud De ST. HILARY, was born about 1173 in Arundel, Sussex, England, died from 1 February 1220 to 1221 in Cainell Near Rome, Latium, Italy 922 about age 47, and was buried in Wymondham Abbey, Norfolk, England.922 Other names for William were 06th\3Rd Earl Of ARUNDEL William D'aubigny, and 03rd Earl Of SUSSEX William D'aubigny.923

General Notes: EARLDOM OF SUSSEX (III) 1193

EARLDOM OF ARUNDEL (VI, 3) 1193

WILLIAM (D'AuBIGNY), EARL OF SUSSEX, and EARL OF ARUNDEL, son and heir. He was a favourite of King John, whose concession of the Kingdom to the Pope, 15 May 1213, he witnessed, and whom he accompanied to Runnymede, 15 June 1215. When, however, King John abandoned Winchester, 14 June 1216, to Louis (afterwards Louis VIII) of France, he joined that Prince, but (consistently taking the winning side) returned to his allegiance 14 July 1217, after the Royalist victory at Lincoln. Shortly afterwards he acted as JUSTICIAR, the young King, Henry III, having restored to him his forfeited possessions.

He married Mabel 2nd daughter of Hugh (LE MESCHIN surnamed KEVELIOC), EARL OF CHESTER, by Bertrade, daughter of Simon, COUNT OF EVREUX in Normandy. She, in her issue, was (1232) one of the four coheirs to her brother Ranulph (surnamed BLUNDEVILLE), EARL OF CHESTER. He embarked in the crusade of 1218, and was at the taking of Damietta in Nov. 1219, but died at Cainell, near Rome, ("quoddam oppidulum Kainel nomine") shortly before 30 March 1221 [when the news reached England], and was buried at Wymondham Priory. [Complete Peerage I:236-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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William de Albini, 4th earl, m. Mabel, second of the four sisters and co-heiresses of Ranulph, Earl of Chester, with whom he obtained great landed property. At he, however, died issueless in 1224, or, by some statements, in 1233, his honours devolved upon his only brother, then in minority, Hugh de Albini, 5th earl. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 3, Albini, Earls of Arundel]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, Bef 30 March 1221. 921

• Bullet: named in MAGNA CHARTA, King John advisor, 1215.

William married Mabel De MESCHINES Countess Of Sussex 919,921,924,925 in Chester, Cheshire, England. Mabel was born about 1173 in Chester, Cheshire, England 389,390 and died on 6 January 1233 in <, , Sussex, England> 389,390 about age 60.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545483       i.  Nichole D' AUBIGNY (born about 1193 in Barrow On Soar, Leicestershire, England - died before 1254 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, England)

               ii.  Maud D' AUBIGNY was born about 1196 in Arundel, Sussex, England and died between 1238 and 1242 926,927 about age 42. Another name for Maud was Maud D' ALBINI.

              iii.  Isabel D' AUBIGNY was born about 1198 in Arundel, Sussex, England and died after 1230. Another name for Isabel was Isabella D' ALBINI.

               iv.  William D' AUBIGNY 4th Earl Of Arundel was born about 1200 in Arundel, Sussex, England,928 died before 7 August 1224 in (Dsp) 928, and was buried in Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England. Other names for William were 07th\4Th Earl Of ARUNDEL William D'aubigny, and 04th Ear Of SUSSEX William D'aubigny.923

                v.  Cicely D' AUBIGNY was born about 1210 in Arundel, Sussex, England and died after 1260 929.

               vi.  Hugh D' AUBIGNY 5th Earl Of Arundel was born about 1214 in Arundel, Sussex, England,930 died on 7 May 1243 in (Dsp) 930 about age 29, and was buried in Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England. Other names for Hugh were 08th\5Th Earl Of ARUNDEL Hugh D' Aubigny, and 05th Earl Of SUSSEX Hugh D' Aubigny.923


2011090967. Mabel De MESCHINES Countess Of Sussex,415,505,642,919,921,924,925,931 daughter of Hugh De KEVELIOC 3rd Earl Of Chester and Bertrade De MONTFORT Countess Of Chester, was born about 1173 in Chester, Cheshire, England 389,390 and died on 6 January 1233 in <, , Sussex, England> 389,390 about age 60.

General Notes:
He [William d'Aubigny] married Mabel 2nd daughter of Hugh (LE MESCHIN surnamed KEVELIOC), EARL OF CHESTER, by Bertrade, daughter of Simon, COUNT OF EVREUX in Normandy. She, in her issue, was (1232) one of the four coheirs to her brother Ranulph (surnamed BLUNDEVILLE), EARL OF CHESTER. He embarked in the crusade of 1218, and was at the taking of Damietta in Nov. 1219, but died at Cainell, near Rome, ("quoddam oppidulum Kainel nomine") shortly before 30 March 1221 [when the news reached England], and was buried at Wymondham Priory. [Complete Peerage I:236-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Noted events in her life were:

• Title: Countess of Sussex, , , Sussex, England. 390,417

• Title: Countess of Huntingdon, , Huntingdon, Berkwick, Scotland. 390,417,642,931

Mabel married William IV D'AUBIGNY Earl Of Arundel, son of Randulphus De ARUNDEL Earl Of Aubigny and Maud De ST. HILARY, about 1195 in <, Arundel, Sussex, England> 389.,390 William was born about 1175 in , Arundel, Sussex, England,389,390 died on 30 March 1220 in , Cainell By Rome, Latium, Italy 389,390 about age 45, and was buried in Priory, Wymondham, Norfolk, England.389,390

Noted events in his life were:

• Unknown: Earl of Arundel, <Arundel Castle, Arundel, Sussex, England>. 390,417

• Unknown: Crusades, Acre, Hazafon, Israel, Palestine. 390

• Unknown: Magna Charta Surety, 1215. 390

Mabel next married William D' AUBIGNY 3rd Earl Of Arundel 919,920,921 in Chester, Cheshire, England. William was born about 1173 in Arundel, Sussex, England, died from 1 February 1220 to 1221 in Cainell Near Rome, Latium, Italy 922 about age 47, and was buried in Wymondham Abbey, Norfolk, England.922 Other names for William were 06th\3Rd Earl Of ARUNDEL William D'aubigny, and 03rd Earl Of SUSSEX William D'aubigny.923

2011091024. Walter (Walcheline) De BEAUCHAMP 415,932 was born about 1180 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England 932 and died on 14 April 1236 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England 932 about age 56.

General Notes: Walcheline de Beauchamp, omitted in Sir H. Nicholas' account of the family, m. Joane, dau. of Roger, Lord Mortimer, and dying in the same year as his father, was s. by an only son, William de Beauchamp. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 30, Beauchamp, Earls of Warwick]

Walter married Joan De MORTIMER 932 in 1212 in Elmley, Worcestershire, England. Joan was born about 1190 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 932 and died in 1268 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England 932 about age 78.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545512       i.  William De BEAUCHAMP Lord Of Elmley (born about 1210 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England - died after 7 January 1268-1269 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England)

               ii.  Thomas De BEAUCHAMP was born about 1214 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England.


2011091025. Joan De MORTIMER,415,932 daughter of Roger De MORTIMER Lord Of Wigmore, Sir and Millicent De FERRERS, was born about 1190 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England 932 and died in 1268 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England 932 about age 78.

Joan married Walter (Walcheline) De BEAUCHAMP 932 in 1212 in Elmley, Worcestershire, England. Walter was born about 1180 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England 932 and died on 14 April 1236 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England 932 about age 56.

2011091026. William MAUDUIT Lord Of Hanslope,415,933 son of Robert MAUDUIT Lord Of Hanslope and Isabel BASSET, was born about 1196 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England and died from before 14 February 1256 to 1257 in Hartley Manduit, Buckinghamshire, England 531.

General Notes: William Mauduit (died just before 14 Feb 1256/7), Hereditary Chamberlain of the Exchequer, of Hanslope, Bucks, and Hartley Mauduit, Hants. [Burke's Peerage]

William married Alice De BEAUMONT 531,933 about 1211 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England. Alice was born in 1196 in Warwick, Warwickshire, England 934 and died before 1263 531,933. Another name for Alice was Alice De NEWBURGH.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545513       i.  Isabel MAUDUIT (born about 1217 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England - died before 1268 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England)

               ii.  William MAUDUIT 8th Earl Of Warwick was born between 1220 and 1221 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England,935 died from 8 January 1267 to 1268 in Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England 935 about age 46, and was buried in Gatesby Priory, Northants (Heart), Westminster Abbey (Body). Another name for William was 08th Earl Of WARWICK William Mauduit.


2011091027. Alice De BEAUMONT,415,531,933 daughter of Waleran De BEAUMONT 4th Earl Of Warwick and Alice De HARCOURT, was born in 1196 in Warwick, Warwickshire, England 934 and died before 1263 531,933. Another name for Alice was Alice De NEWBURGH.

General Notes: Alice de Beaumont; married William Mauduit (died just before 14 Feb 1256/7), Hereditary Chamberlain of the Exchequer, of Hanslope, Bucks, and Hartley Mauduit, Hants, and died by 1263. [Burke's Peerage]

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Alice m. to William Mauduit, feudal Baron of Hanslape, (great grandson of William Mauduit, chamberlain to King Henry I, by Maud, dau. and heiress of Michael de Hanslape), and had issue, William, Baron of Hanslape, and Isabel, m. to William Beauchamp. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 399, Newburgh, Earls of Warwick]

Alice married William MAUDUIT Lord Of Hanslope 933 about 1211 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England. William was born about 1196 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England and died from before 14 February 1256 to 1257 in Hartley Manduit, Buckinghamshire, England 531.

2011091028. Geoffrey FITZPIERS 3rd Earl Of Essex,415,505,936 son of Piers De LUTEGARESHALE and Maud, was born before 1163 in Saffron Walden, Essex, England 937 and died on 14 October 1213 in Shouldham Priory, Downham, Norfolk, England 938. Another name for Geoffrey was Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE 3rd Earl Of Essex.

General Notes: Upon the decease of William de Mandeville, 3rd Earl of Essex, much dispute arose regarding the inheritance: Beatrix, his aunt and heir, in the first place, preferring her claim, sent Geoffrey de Say, her younger son, to transact the business for the livery thereof, but Geoffrey FitzPiers insisted upon the right of Beatrix, his wife. Nevertheless, Geoffrey de Say, in consideration of 7,000 marks promised to be paid on a certain day, obtained an instrument in right of his mother, under the king's seal, for the whole of the barony, but the said Geoffrey de Say, making default of payment, this Geoffrey FitzPiers, being a man of great wealth and reputation, made representation that the barony was the right of his wife and, promising to pay the money, obtained livery thereof and procured the king's confirmation of his title. One of the earliest acts of this feudal lord was to dispossess the monks of Walden of certain lands which they had derived from his predecessors, a proceeding followed by a long controversy, which, after being referred to the Pope and the King, was finally compromised. Upon the removal of Hubert, Archbishop of Canterbury, from the office of Justice of England by Richard I, this Geoffrey was appointed to succeed him, and at the coronation of King John, 26 June, 1199, he was girt with the sword as Earl of Essex, and then served at the king's table. Being nominated patron of the monastery at Walden, he appears soon after to have been received with great ceremony by the monks and perfectly reconciled to those holy fathers. In the 7th King John, he had a grant of the castle and honour of Berkhamstead, with the knights' fees thereunto belonging to hold to him and the heirs of his body, by Aveline, his 2nd wife. His lordship m. 1st, Beatrix de Say, by whom he had issue, Geoffrey, William, Henry, all of whom assumed the name of Mandeville, and Maud, m. to Robert de Bohun. He m. 2ndly, Aveline ---, and had an only son, John FitzPiers, Lord of Berkhamstead. His lordship, whom Matthew Paris characterizes as "ruling the reins of government so that after his death the realm was like a ship in a tempest without a pilot," d. 2 October, 1213, and was s. by his eldest son, Geoffrey de Mandeville. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 353, Mandeville, Earls of Essex]

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GEOFFREY FITZ PETER (d. 1213), earl of Essex and chief justiciar of England, was a sheriff, a justice itinerant and a justice of the forest under Henry II. During Richard's absence on crusade he was one of the five justices of the king's court who stood next in authority to the regent, Longchamp. In 1190 Fitz Peter succeeded to the earldom of Essex, in the right of his wife, who was descended from the famous Geoffrey de Mandeville. In attempting to asset his hereditary rights over Walden priory Fitz Peter came into conflict with Longchamp, and revenged himself by joining in the baronial agitation through which the regent was expelled from his office. Though refusing to give him formal investiture of the Essex earldom, Richard appointed him justiciar in succession to Hubert Walter (1198). Fitz Peter continued Walter's policy of encouraging foreign trade and the development of the towns; many of the latter received, during his administration, charters of self-government. He was continued in his office by John, who found him an able instrument of extortion. He profited to no small extent by the spoliation of church lands in the period of the interdict. But he was not altogether trusted by the king. The contemporary "Historie des ducs" described Fitz Peter as living in constant dread of disgrace and confiscation. In the last years of his life he endeavoured to act as a mediator between the king and the opposition. It was by his mouth that the king promised to the nation the laws of Henry I. (at the council of St. Albans, Aug. 4, 1213). But Fitz Peter died a few weeks later (Oct. 2). Fitz Peter was neither a far-sighted nor a disinterested statesman; but he was the ablest pupil of Hubert Walter, and maintained the traditions of the great bureaucracy which the first and second Henries had founded.

Geoffrey married Beatrix De SAY,938,940 daughter of William II De SAY Of Sawbridgeworth and Aufrica Of HUNTINGDON, before 25 January 1184-1185 in 1st Wife.939 Beatrix was born about 1160 in Kimbolton, St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England and died before 19 April 1197 939.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE 5th Earl Of Essex was born about 1184 in Saffron Walden, Essex, England, died from 23 February 1215 to 1216 in London, Middlesex, England Of Mortal Wounds At Tournament (Dsp) about age 31, and was buried in Trinity Priory Within Aldgate, London, Middlesex, England. Another name for Geoffrey was 3rd Earl Of GLOUCESTER Geoffrey De Mandeville.941

               ii.  Maud FITZGEOFFREY Countess Of Essex was born about 1185 in Saffron Walden, Essex, England and died on 27 August 1236 in Warwick, Warwickshire, England 942 about age 51. Other names for Maud were Maud FITZPIERS Countess Of Essex, and943 Maud De MANDEVILLE.

              iii.  William De MANDEVILLE 6th Earl Of Essex was born in 1186 in Saffron Walden, Essex, England, died from 8 January 1226 to 1227 in Shouldham Priory, Downham, Norfolk, England (Body) 944 at age 40, and was buried in Walden Abbey, Saffron Walden, Norfolk, England (Heart).

Geoffrey next married Aveline De CLARE 945,946 before 20 May 1205 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife.945 Aveline was born about 1168 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England 389,390 and died before 4 June 1225 in , , , England 389,390,939,945.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545514       i.  John FITZGEOFFREY Justiciar Of Ireland, Sir (born about 1208 in Shere, Surrey, England - died on 23 November 1258 in Farmbridge, Essex, England)

               ii.  Hawise FITZGEOFFREY was born about 1210 in Streatley, Berkshire, England 947 and died before 1243 878,948. Another name for Hawise was Hawise Fitzgeoffrey De MANDEVILLE.


2011091029. Aveline De CLARE,415,505,945,946,949 daughter of Roger Fitzrichard CLARE 2nd Earl Of Hertford and Maud De ST. HILARY, was born about 1168 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England 389,390 and died before 4 June 1225 in , , , England 389,390,939,945.

General Notes:
He [William de Munchensy] married, before 1186, Aveline, daughter of Roger (DE CLARE), EARL OF HERTFORD, by Maud, daughter and heir of James DE ST. HILAIRE, of Dalling, &c., Norfolk, &c. He died before 7 May 1204. His widow married, before 29 May 1205, Geoffrey (FITZ PIERS), EARL OF Essex. She died before 4 June 1225. [Complete Peerage IX:420, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Aveline married William De MUNCHENSY Of Swanscombe, Sir,945,950 son of Warin De MUNCHENSY Of Gooderstone, Sir and Agnes FITZJOHN Heiress Of Swanscombe, before 1186 in 1st Husband.945 William was born before 1158 in Gooderstone, Swaffham, Norfolk, England 945 and died before 7 May 1204 in Swanscombe, Dartford, Kent, England 945,951.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  William De MUNCHENSY Of Gooderstone was born before 1186 in Gooderstone, Swaffham, Norfolk, England 945 and died before 6 April 1208 in (Dsp) 945.

               ii.  Warin De MUNCHENSY Lord Of Swanscomb was born before 1192 in Swanscombe, Dartford, Kent, England 952 and died about 20 July 1255 in Gooderstone, Swaffham, Norfolk, England.

Aveline next married Geoffrey FITZPIERS 3rd Earl Of Essex 936 before 20 May 1205 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife.945 Geoffrey was born before 1163 in Saffron Walden, Essex, England 937 and died on 14 October 1213 in Shouldham Priory, Downham, Norfolk, England 938. Another name for Geoffrey was Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE 3rd Earl Of Essex.

2011091030. Hugh BIGOD 3rd Earl Of Norfolk, Mcs,415,505,711,953,954 son of Roger BIGOD 2nd Earl Of Norfolk, Mcs and Lady Ida De TOENI, was born about 1178 in Framlingham Castle, Suffolk, England,955 died BET 11 AND 18 FEB 1224/25 in Thetford, Norfolk, England 956, and was buried in Thetford Church, Norfolk, England.

General Notes:
Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk, Magna Charta Surety 1215, died before 18 Feb 1224/5; married, probably before Lent 1207, Maud Marshall, died 27 March 1248, daughter and eventual coheiress of William Marshall, Earl of Pembroke, by his wife Isabel de Clare, Countess of Pembroke. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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The following information was given in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

Magna Charta Surety, Earl of Pembroke, 3rd Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk [Ref: Weis MC5 3:2, Holloway p26]

1241-1245: 3rd Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk [Ref: English Peerage]

Hugh BIGOD, 3rd Earl Norfolk, b. abt 1178, d. Feb. 1225; m. 1207 - Maud de MARESHALL, b. abt 1192 Pembroke, Wales, d. Mar. 1248 [Ref: KHF 3 Jun 1999 quoting Suffolk Manorial Families, vol II p152-3]

Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk, the eldest son, was born before 1195. He was the hereditary steward of the king's household, and hereditary bearer of the Barons of St. Edmund. Not many particulars of this Baron's life have been preserved, as he enjoyed for only a few years the title of Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk, and his father's estates and honors, to which he had succeeded in the 5th year of King Henry III. He died four years later, in February 1224-25. He married Maud Marshal, eldest daughter of William Marshal, 3rd Earl of Pembroke, and his wife, Isabel Clare, daughter of Richard de Clare, the Strongbow, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, and his wife, Eva, daughter of Dermot MacMurcha, King of Leinster, Ireland. She was also the sister of the Surety William Marshal & she marrieied (2) William, Earl of Warren/Warrenne and Surrey [Ref McBride2 citing Burke's p53]

Note: English Baronies = The English Peerage (to 1790) or, a view of the Ancient and Present State of the English Nobility (English Peerage to 1790) transcribed by Colin Hinson. This out of copyright material has been transcribed by Colin Hinson, who has provided the transcription to the UK & Ireland Genealogical Information Service on condition that any further copying and distribution of the transcription is allowed only for noncommercial purposes, and includes this statement in its entirety. Any references to, or quotations from, this material should give credit to the original author(s) or editors. See: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/History/Barons/

Regards,
Curt

Noted events in his life were:

• Bullet: MAGNA CHARTA SURETY, 1215.

Hugh married Maud MARSHAL 954,957,958 in 1207 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales.956 Maud was born about 1192 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales 955 and died on 27 March 1248 in Tintern Abbey, Chapel Hill, Monmouthsire, England 959 about age 56. Another name for Maud was Maud MARSHALL.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Roger BIGOD 4th Earl Of Norfolk was born in 1212 in Thetford, Norfolk, England 960 and died on 4 July 1270 in (Dsp) 960 at age 58.

1005545515      ii.  Isabella BIGOD (born about 1213 in Thetford, Norfolk, England - died in 1252)

              iii.  Hugh BIGOD Chief Justice Of England was born about 1214 in Framlingham Castle, Suffolk, England and died before 7 May 1266 in Thetford, Norfolk, England 581,582.

               iv.  Ralph Le BIGOD Of Settrington was born about 1216 in Thetford, Norfolk, England and died before 28 July 1260 in Settrington, East Riding Yorkshire, England 598,961,962.

                v.  Simon Le BIGOD Sir was born about 1218 in Thetford, Norfolk, England and died before 1242 in Felbrigg, Erpingham, Norfolk, England 963,964.


2011091031. Maud MARSHAL,415,954,957,958 daughter of William The Protector MARSHAL 4th Earl Of Pembroke and Isabel De CLARE Countess Of Pembroke, was born about 1192 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales 955 and died on 27 March 1248 in Tintern Abbey, Chapel Hill, Monmouthsire, England 959 about age 56. Another name for Maud was Maud MARSHALL.

General Notes: Maud Marshall, died 27 March 1248, daughter and eventual coheiress of William Marshall, Earl of Pembroke, by his wife Isabel de Clare, Countess of Pembroke. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [William de Warenne] married, 1stly, Maud. He married, 2ndly, before 13 October 1225, Maud, widow of Hugh (BIGOD), EARL OF NORFOLK, daughter and (after the death s.p. of her 5 brothers) coheir of William (MARSHAL), 4th EARL OF PEMBROKE, by Isabel, daughter and (after her brother's death in childhood) heir of Richard (FITZGILBERT), 2nd EARL OF PEMBROKE. He died 27 May 1240 in London and was buried before the high altar in Lewes Priory. Maud died between 1 and 7 April 1248. [Complete Peerage XII/1:500-03, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Maud Marshal m. 1st to Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk; 2ndly, to William de Warren, Earl of Surrey; and 3rdly, to Walde de Dunstanville. This lady, upon the decease of her youngest brother, Anselm, Earl of Pembroke, s. p., in 1245, and the division of the estates, obtained as her share the manor of Hempsted-Marshall, in Berks, with the office of marshal of England, which was inherited by her son Roger Bigod, 4th Earl of Norfolk, and surrendered to the crown by her grandson, Rogert Bigod, 5th Earl of Norfolk. Maud, Countess of Norfolk, had likewise the manors of Chepstow and Carlogh. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 358, Marshal, Earls of Pembroke]

Maud married Hugh BIGOD 3rd Earl Of Norfolk, Mcs 711,953,954 in 1207 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales.956 Hugh was born about 1178 in Framlingham Castle, Suffolk, England,955 died BET 11 AND 18 FEB 1224/25 in Thetford, Norfolk, England 956, and was buried in Thetford Church, Norfolk, England.

Maud next married William De WARENNE 6th Earl Of Surrey,965,966 son of Hamelin PLANTAGENET 5th Earl Of Surrey and Isabel De WARENNE 4th Countess Of Surrey, before 13 October 1225 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 965.,966 William was born after 1165 in Lewes, Sussex, England,967 died on 27 May 1240 in London, Middlesex, England 966,968, and was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. Another name for William was 06th Earl Of SURREY William De Warenne.

Noted events in his life were:

• Bullet: named in MAGNA CHARTA, King John advisor, 1215.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Isabel De WARENNE was born about 1226 in Lewes, Sussex, England and died before 20 September 1282 in Marham, Norfolk, England 930.

               ii.  John De WARENNE 7th Earl Of Surrey was born after August 1231 in Warren, Sussex, England,969,970 died on 27 September 1304 in Kennington, Surrey, England 969,970,971, and was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. Another name for John was 07th Earl Of SURREY John De Warenne.


2011091034. Humphrey V De BOHUN 2nd Earl Hereford&Essex,415,505,972 son of Henry De BOHUN 1st Earl Of Hereford, Mcs and Maud FITZGEOFFREY Countess Of Essex, was born in 1208 in Hungerford, Essex, England 973 and died on 24 September 1275 in Llanthony-By-Gloucester Priory, Gloucestershire, England 973 at age 67.

General Notes: Humphrey de Bohun V, born 1208, died 24 Sep 1275, 2nd Earl of Hereford and Essex, Constable of England; married (1) Maud d'Eu, died 14 Aug 1241, daughter of Raoul I de Lusignan and Alice d'Eu. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, and possessing that honour of Essex through his mother, was created Earl of that county by King Henry III, at whose marriage his lordship performed the office of marshal in the king's house, and in three years afterwards, anno 1239, was one of the godfathers at the font for Edward, eldest son of the king, there being no less than nine sponsors on the occasion, viz., five temporal and four spiritual lords. He was Lord High Constable of England. In 1250, he took up the cross and proceeded to the Holy Land. In three years afterwards, his lordship was present with other peers when that formal curse was denounced in Westminster Hall with bell, book, and candle, against the violators of Magna Carta; in which year he founded the church of the Friars Augustines, in Broad-street, within the city of London. In the great contest between the king and his barons, this nobleman fought for the latter at Evesham, where he was taken prisoner, but he did not long continue in bondage for we find him soon after again in favour and receiving new grants from the crown. His lordship d. 1275, having m. 1st, Maud, dau. of Ralph, Count d'Eu, by Yolande, his wife, dau. of Robert, Count de Dreux, Earl of Ewe, and had issue, Humphrey, Maud, Alice, and ---, m. to --- Quincy. Humphrey, Earl of Hereford and Essex, d. 1275, and was s. by his grandson, Humphrey de Bohun. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 57, Bohun, Earls of Hereford, Earls of Essex, Earls of Northampton, and High Constables of England]

Humphrey married Maud D' EU 972 in 1st Wife.974 Maud was born in 1208 in La Marche, Poitou, France and died on 14 August 1241 in Llanthony-By-Gloucester Priory, Gloucestershire, England 973 at age 33. Another name for Maud was Maud De LUSIGNAN.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Humphrey VI De BOHUN Governor Of Winchester was born about 1225 in Herfordshire & Essex, England and died on 27 October 1265 in Beeston Castle, Cheshire, England (Dvp) 975 about age 40.

1005545517      ii.  Alice De BOHUN (born about 1235 in East Coulston Manor, Wiltshire, England - died about 1255)

              iii.  Maud De BOHUN was born about 1237 in Flamstead, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England, died on 20 October 1252 in Groby Castle, Leicestershire, England (Dsp) 976 about age 15, and was buried in Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.

Humphrey next married Maud De AVENBURY,974 daughter of Walter De AVENBURY and Unknown, after 14 August 1241 in 2ND Wife.974 Maud was born about 1220 in Avenbury, Bromyard, Herefordshire, England, died on 8 October 1273 in Sorges, Dordogne, Perigord/Aquitaine, France 977 about age 53, and was buried in Sorges, Then Reburied In 1290 At Llanthony-By-Gloucester Priory, England.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Eleanor De BOHUN Heiress Of Debden was born about 1242 in Debden, Saffron Walden, Essex, England and died after 10 June 1278 711.


2011091035. Maud D' EU,415,505,972 daughter of Raoul I De LUSIGNAN Comte D'eu and Alice Countess D' EU Lady Hastings, was born in 1208 in La Marche, Poitou, France and died on 14 August 1241 in Llanthony-By-Gloucester Priory, Gloucestershire, England 973 at age 33. Another name for Maud was Maud De LUSIGNAN.

General Notes: Maud d'Eu, died 14 Aug 1241, daughter of Raoul I de Lusignan and Alice d'Eu. [Magna Charta Sureties]

Maud married Humphrey V De BOHUN 2nd Earl Hereford&Essex 972 in 1st Wife.974 Humphrey was born in 1208 in Hungerford, Essex, England 973 and died on 24 September 1275 in Llanthony-By-Gloucester Priory, Gloucestershire, England 973 at age 67.

2011091160. John FITZALAN Lord Of Clun & Oswestry,415,978,979,980 son of William FITZALAN Lord Of Oswestry & Clun, Sir and Miss De LACY, was born about 1192 in Oswestry Castle, Shropshire, England and died from March 1239 to 1240 in Clun, Shropshire, England 978,980 about age 47.

General Notes: John FitzAlan; feudal Baron of Oswestry; one of the magnates opposed to King John; married 1st Isabel d'Aubigny, sister and coheir of Hugh, 5th Earl of Arundel, and died 1240, being with her ancestor of the FitzAlan Earls of Arundel. [Burke's Peerage, p. 1985]

John Fitz Alan; married 1st Isabel d'Aubigny and had issue; married 2nd Hawise de Blancminster (ie. Whitchurch, Salop) and died 1240. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2098]

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John Fitz-Alan took up arms with the other barons temp. John, but, upon the accession of King Henry [1216], having had letters of safe conduct to come in and make his peace, he had livery of the lands of his inheritance, upon paying, however, a fine of 10,000 marks. This feudal lord m. 1st, Isabel, 2nd dau. of William de Albini, Earl of Arundel, and sister and co-heir of Hugh, last earl of that family, by whom he had a son, John, his successor. He m. 2ndly, Haws de Blancminster, and dying in 1239, was s. by his son, John Fitz-Alan. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 200, Fitz-Alan, Earls of Arundel, Barons Maltravers]

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Burke's Peerage, p. 2098, on Lineage of FitzAlan:

The d'Aubigny male line died out by 1243, whereupon the huge family estates were parcelled out between the last d'Aubigny Earl of Arundel's sisters. Isabel, the second eldest, was wife of John Fitz Alan, who through her came into possession of Arundel Castle but, perhaps significantly, did not style himself Earl of Arundel and was not so referred to by third parties. A contributory factor here seems to have been the longevity of the last d'Aubigny Earl of Arundel's widow, who survived her husband almost forty years and who may in some sense therefore have been regarded as Countess of Arundel in her own right.

Note: I assume the d'Aubigny widow who survived her husband almost 40 years was wife of Hugh d'Aubigny, 5th Earl of Arundel, brother of Isabel.

John married Isabel D' AUBIGNY 978,980 in 1st Wife.978 Isabel was born about 1198 in Arundel, Sussex, England and died after 1230. Another name for Isabel was Isabella D' ALBINI.

The child from this marriage was:

1005545580       i.  John FITZALAN 6th Earl Of Arundel (born before May 1223 in Oswestry Castle, Shropshire, England - died before 10 November 1267 in Arundel Castle, Sussex, England)

John next married Hawise De BLANCMINSTER 614 after 1230 in 2ND Wife.614 Hawise was born about 1190 in Blancminster Now Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.


2011091161. Isabel D' AUBIGNY,415,505,978,980 daughter of William D' AUBIGNY 3rd Earl Of Arundel and Mabel De MESCHINES Countess Of Sussex, was born about 1198 in Arundel, Sussex, England and died after 1230. Another name for Isabel was Isabella D' ALBINI.

Isabel married John FITZALAN Lord Of Clun & Oswestry 978,979,980 in 1st Wife.978 John was born about 1192 in Oswestry Castle, Shropshire, England and died from March 1239 to 1240 in Clun, Shropshire, England 978,980 about age 47.

2011091162. Theobald Le BOTILLER 2nd Butler,415,505,719,981,982,983,984 son of Theobald Walter Le BOTILLER 1st Butler and Maud Le VAVASOUR, was born in 1200 in Arklow, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland,981 died on 19 July 1230 in Poitou, France 981 at age 30, and was buried in Monastery Of Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland. Another name for Theobald was Theobald Le BOTELER.

General Notes: BUTLER FAMILY HISTORY

The 2nd Butler, who died in France, married twice. Through his first wife, Joan (daughter of Geoffrey de Marreis, Justiciar of Ireland), who probably died in childbirth, their descendant, the 3rd Earl of Ormond inherited further considerable estates in Ireland and England. Through his second wife, Rohesia, the 2nd Butler was the forefather of the Lords de Verdon who, however, did not retain the surname Butler. It needed a King to persuade Rohesia to marry a Butler! For in 1225 Henry III personally requested her to marry his "beloved Theobald le Botiller". [Butler Family History]

Theobald married Joan De MARREIS,982,984 daughter of Geoffrey De MARISCO Justiciar Of Ireland and Unknown, about 1222 in 1st Wife.982 Joan was born about 1202 in Ireland and died before 4 September 1225. Other names for Joan were Joan De MARISCO, and Joan De MARSH.984

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Theobald Le BOTILLER 3rd Butler was born in 1223 in Norfolk, England and died on 26 December 1248 in Monastery Of Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland 716 at age 25.

Theobald next married Rohese De VERDUN 719,981,982,983,985 after 4 September 1225 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 982.,983 Rohese was born about 1205 in Alton Castle, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England 986 and died from 10 February 1246 to 1247 981 about age 41.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545581       i.  Maud De Verdun Le BOTILLER (born in 1225 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England - died on 27 November 1283)

               ii.  Juliana BUTLER was born in 1520 in Norbury, Shropshire, England.987

              iii.  John Le Botiller De VERDUN Sir was born about 1226 in Alton Castle, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England 719,988 and died on 21 October 1274 in Arklow, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland 719,988,989 about age 48. Other names for John were John Le BOTELER Sir,990 John Le BOTILLER Sir, and John De VERDUN.718


2011091163. Rohese De VERDUN,415,505,719,981,982,983,985 daughter of Nicholas De VERDUN Of Alton, Sir and Clemence Le BOTELER, was born about 1205 in Alton Castle, Cheadle, Staffordshire, England 986 and died from 10 February 1246 to 1247 981 about age 41.

Rohese married in 1st Husband.983

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Willimus HORNE was born about 1445.

Rohese married Theobald Le BOTILLER 2nd Butler 719,981,982,983,984 after 4 September 1225 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 982.,983 Theobald was born in 1200 in Arklow, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland,981 died on 19 July 1230 in Poitou, France 981 at age 30, and was buried in Monastery Of Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland. Another name for Theobald was Theobald Le BOTELER.

Rohese next married William Perceval De SOMERY Of Dudley, Sir,917,991 son of Ralph De SOMERY Lord Of Dudley & Dinas Powis and Margaret Fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, in 1st Husband.983 William was born about 1195 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England and died before 20 June 1222 917.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Nicholas De SOMERY Master Of Dudley was born before 1222 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England and died before 4 July 1229 in (A Minor) 992.


2011091164. Ralph De MORTIMER Lord Of Wigmore,415,505,885,993,994 son of Roger De MORTIMER Lord Of Wigmore, Sir and Isabel De FERRIERS, was born about 1195 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England and died on 6 August 1246 in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England 885,993,994 about age 51.

General Notes: RALPH DE MORTIMER, brother and heir [of Hugh]. In 1216 he had been one of a deputation sent by King John to William de Briwere, after his forced adhesion to the Barons during their occupation of London, to arrange for his return to the King's service; and in September 1217 he had witnessed at Lambeth the articles drawn up between Henry III and Louis of France. On 23 November 1227 he gave £100 as relief for the lands of his brother Hugh, and the King took his homage; and on 8 July 1229, for his faithful service, he was pardoned all except £500 of the debts of his father and brother. In October 1230 he obtained a charter for a fair at Knighton and free warren at Stratfield, and in 1231 he was made custodian of Clun Castle and honour during pleasure. In June 1233, with the other Lords Marchers, Ralph exchanged hostages with the King de fideli servicio, quousque regnum sit ita securatum quod firma pax sit in regno Anglie. On 7 November following he attested a charter of Henry III at Hereford. He was present on 28 January 1235/6 at the confirmation of Magna Carta at Westminster, and in the same year he and the other Lords Marchers claimed the right to find and bear the silvered spears which supported the canopies held over the King and Queen in their Coronation procession; but the right of the Barons of the Cinque Ports to carry both canopies being allowed, the Marchers' claim was rejected as frivolous. In 1241 he was first of the pledges to the King for his sister-in-law Senana, wife of Griffith ap Llewelyn; but in August that year Meredith ap Howel and the other Welsh lords of Kerry made a permanent peace with Henry III, whether they should be at war with Ralph de Mortimer or not. In June 1242 he was summoned to come to the King's aid in Gascony as soon as possible.

He married, in 1230, Gladys (Gladusa) Duy, or Dark-eyed, daughter of Llewelyn AP JORWORTH, by his 2nd wife, Joan (illegitimate daughter of KiNG JOHN), and widow of Reynold DE BRAOSE [died June 1228). He died 6 August 1246, and was buried at Wigmore. His widow died in 1251. [Complete Peerage IX:275-6, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Ralph de Mortimer, in the 12th Henry III [1228], paying £100 for his relief, had livery of all his lands lying in the cos. of Gloucester, Southampton, Berks, Salop, and Hereford. This nobleman being of a marital disposition, erected several strong castles by which he was enabled to extend his possessions against the Welsh so that Prince Llewellyn, seeing that he could not successfully cope with him, gave him his dau., Gladuse Duy, widow of Reginald de Braose, in marriage, and by this lady he had issue, Roger, his successor; Peter John, a grey friar at Shrewsbury; Hugh, of Chelmersh; and a dau. Isolda, m. 1st to Walter Balem, and 2ndly, to Hugh, Lord Audley. He d. in 1246, and was s. by his eldest son, Roger de Mortimer. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 383, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

Ralph married Gwladys "Ddu" Verch LLEWELYN Princess Of Wales 885,993,994,995,996 in 1230 in 2ND Husband 885,993.,994 Gwladys was born about 1207 in Caemarvonshire, Wales and died in 1251 in Windsor, Berkshire, England 885,993,994 about age 44. Another name for Gwladys was Gwladys DDU.

Children from this marriage were:

1005545582       i.  Roger De MORTIMER Lord Of Wigmore (born about 1231 in Cwmaron Castle, Radnorshire, Wales - died before 30 October 1282 in Kingsland, Herefordshire, England)

               ii.  Hugh De MORTIMER Of Chelmarsh was born about 1234 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England and died before 23 June 1273 in Chelmarsh, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England 997.

              iii.  Joan De MORTIMER was born about 1240 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England and died before 1295.


2011091165. Gwladys "Ddu" Verch LLEWELYN Princess Of Wales,415,505,885,993,994,995,996 daughter of Llewelyn Ab IORWERTH Prince Of Wales and Joan PLANTAGENET, was born about 1207 in Caemarvonshire, Wales and died in 1251 in Windsor, Berkshire, England 885,993,994 about age 44. Another name for Gwladys was Gwladys DDU.

General Notes: He [William de Briouze] m. 2ndly, 1215, Gwladus Du, daughter of Llewelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales, by his 2nd wife Joan, illegitimate daughter of King John. He d. between 5 May 1227 and 9 June 1228. His widow m. 2ndly, Ralph de Mortimer, of Wigmore, who d. 6 Aug 1246, and was buried at Wigmore Abbey. She d. at Windsor in 1251. [Complete Peerage I:22]

He [Ralph de Mortimer] married, in 1230, Gladys (Gladusa) Duy, or Dark-eyed, daughter of Llewelyn AP JORWORTH, by his 2nd wife, Joan (illegitimate daughter of KiNG JOHN), and widow of Reynold DE BRAOSE [died June 1228). He died 6 August 1246, and was buried at Wigmore. His widow died in 1251. [Complete Peerage IX:275-6, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

NOTE: The identity of Gwladus's mother is still a matter of debate. There is no clear contemporary evidence that her mother was Joan, and a daughter of Llewelyn and Joan could not have been aged more than about 9 in 1215. The only direct statements appear to come some centuries later. One strand of the later tradition does identify Gwladus's mother as Joan, but another says she was Llewelyn's mistress Tangwystl.

[This question has been discussed by - among many others - Stewart Baldwin, Rosie Bevan, Ken Finton, Todd Farmerie, John P. Ravilious, Paul Reed, Douglas Richardson, Henry Sutliff, Nat Taylor and Brad Verity.] [Some Corrections and Additions to CP]

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Let me make one final general observation. There was a definite and timely reason that Reginald de Broase married Gwladys Ddu in 1215. His brother Giles, Bishop of Hereford, rebelled as soon as he received a royal grant of 'his' patrimony and joined Llywelyn (as leader of the Welsh forces) in general rebellion against John (remember that this was also about the time the North of England, etc., rebelled against John). Reginald immediately joined his brother in marching on their patrimony in the Marches to secure it by force. To cement their alliance (Giles being a bishop and all), Reginald was married to a daughter of Prince Llywelyn. Her name happened to be Gwladys, the dark eyed.

I would find it EXTRAORDINARILY coincidental if Gwladys just happened to be BARELY age twelve in 1215, when it was found expedient to marry her to Reginald. He was older, already experienced in the art of war and the ability to lead men. His elder deceased brother William was already father of four sons held as hostages by King John.

I would be utterly amazed if we found that Gwladys was aged twelve in 1215. The cause of their marriage was not (as far as we know) a prearranged marriage contract that happened to coincide with political expediency--the marriage was a RESULT of the political events that occurred in 1215.

After Reginald de Braose betrayed Llywelyn and became King John's man in 1217 [to give homage, one had to be in the actual presence of the King], and his nephew John de Braose was released in 1218, Llywelyn found a ready ally in the younger John, who was attempting to get his rightful inheritance from Reginald (who was in possession of most of it), in 1218, Llywelyn, out of political expediency, married his daughter Margared to this John.

Thus, if the marriage between Gwladys and Reginald was the result of political events, and they had not been heatedly awaiting her birthday so that they could be wed in a full and legal manner that would be permanent--rather than something that could be easily broken (or at least broken with some effort and complicity)--I would conclude it is most likely that Gwladys was actually older than twelve years old in 1215. Does that seem reasonable? [Paul C Reed, 30 Nov 2001, soc.genealogy.medieval]

Gwladys married Reginald De BRAOSE 13th Lord Of Abergavenny,879,885,998 son of William III De BRAOSE 11th Lord Abergavenny and Maude De ST. VALERY, about 1215 in 1st Husband 2ND Wife.885 Reginald was born about 1179 in Bramber, Sussex, England, died before 9 June 1228 in Abergavenny, Over Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales 879,885, and was buried in Priory Church, Brecon, Breconshire, Wales.

Gwladys next married Ralph De MORTIMER Lord Of Wigmore 885,993,994 in 1230 in 2ND Husband 885,993.,994 Ralph was born about 1195 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England and died on 6 August 1246 in Wigmore Abbey, Herefordshire, England 885,993,994 about age 51.

2011091166. William De BRAOSE 14th Lord Of Abergavenny,415,885,999,1000 son of Reginald De BRAOSE 13th Lord Of Abergavenny and Grecia (Grace) De BRIWERE, was born about 1197 in Abergavenny, Over Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales and died on 2 May 1230 in Hanged By Llewelyn, Prince Of Wales After Intrigues W/ His Wife 885,999 about age 33.

General Notes: OWNERS of the LORDSHIP of ABERGAVENNY (XIV) 1228

William de Briouze, son and heir by 1st wife. He m. Eve, daughter an in her issue coheir of William (Marshal), Earl of Strigul and Pembroke, by Isabel, suo jure Countess of Pembroke. He d. 2 May 1230, being hanged by Llewelyn [ap Iorwerth, his step-mother's father] abovenamed. His widow d. bef. 1246. [Complete Peerage I:22, XIV:6]

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William de Braose fell victim to the jealousy of Llewellyn, Prince of Wales, who suspecting an intimacy between him and the princess, his wife, King Henry's sister, invited him to an Easter feast, and treacherously cast him in prison at the conclusion of the banquet. He was soon afterwards put to death with the unfortunate princess. [I believe Joan Plantagenet died 6 or 7 years later.]

From The Genealogist article by Wm. Addams Reitwiesner

He was discovered in Joan's chambers, accused of being her lover, and promptly and publicly hanged. While the story that William and Joan were lovers has been generally accepted, the Annals of Margam (in T. Gale, ed , Historiae Britannicae et Anglicanae Scriptores XX (Oxford, 1687), 2-18, [anno] MCCXXX) implies that the "intimacy" was devised by Llywelyn to avenge himself on William for political injuries inflicted not only by William but by the entire Braose family; the execution was hailed by the Welsh as a vindication of a blood-feud against the Braoses dating from at least 1176. Indeed, shortly after the execution Llywelyn wrote to William's widow Eva and to William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, Eva's brother, stating, in effect, that so far as he was concerned, the intended marriage between Llywelyn's son Dafydd and Eva's daughter Isabella could go forward as planned, and that he could not have prevented the Welsh magnates from taking their vengeance. See J. Goronwy Edwards, Calendar of Ancient Correspondence concerning Wales (Board of Celtic Studies of the University of Wales, History and Law Series, 2)(Cardiff, 1935), pp 51-52, nos. XI.56a, 56b. The marriage in fact took place three months later.

William married Eva MARSHAL 885,1000,1001 on 2 May 1220 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. Eva was born in 1194 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales and died before 1246 in England 885,999. Another name for Eva was Eva MARSHALL.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Eve De BRAOSE Heiress Of Abergavenny was born about 1221 in Abergavenny, Over Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales and died before 28 July 1255 1002.

1005545583      ii.  Maud De BRAOSE (born about 1222 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales - died before 23 March 1300-1301 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England)

              iii.  Eleanor De BRAOSE was born in 1230 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales and died after 1252 in Llanthony Inn, Gloucestershire, England. Another name for Eleanor was Eleanor De BRAIOSE.


2011091167. Eva MARSHAL,415,885,1000,1001 daughter of William The Protector MARSHAL 4th Earl Of Pembroke and Isabel De CLARE Countess Of Pembroke, was born in 1194 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales and died before 1246 in England 885,999. Another name for Eva was Eva MARSHALL.

General Notes: He [William de Briouze] m. Eve, daughter an in her issue coheir of William (Marshal), Earl of Strigul and Pembroke, by Isabel, suo jure Countess of Pembroke. He d. 2 May 1230, being hanged by Llewelyn [ap Iorwerth, his step-mother's father] abovenamed. His widow d. bef. 1246. [Complete Peerage I:22, XIV:6]

Note: Eve was actually coheir of Walter Marshal, who was the LAST brother to die without issue.

Eva married William De BRAOSE 14th Lord Of Abergavenny 885,999,1000 on 2 May 1220 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. William was born about 1197 in Abergavenny, Over Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales and died on 2 May 1230 in Hanged By Llewelyn, Prince Of Wales After Intrigues W/ His Wife 885,999 about age 33.

2011092992. William Le BARKER 385,386,387.,388

William married.388

Marriage Notes: _STATMARRIED

The child from this marriage was:

1005546496       i.  Roger Le BARKER


2011094532. Gilbert De VENABLES Of Kinderton,235,309,385,386,387,388,505,1003 son of Gilbert De VENABLES Of Kinderton and Unknown, was born about 1150 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England.

Gilbert married Margery Fitzwolfric De HATTON.1003 Margery was born in 1155 in Hatton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005547266       i.  William De VENABLES Of Kinderton (born about 1170 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England - died in 1229 in Wincham, Northwich, Cheshire, England)

Gilbert next married.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Gilbert De VENABLES 4 was born in 1175 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.


2011094533. Margery Fitzwolfric De HATTON,235,309,385,386,387,388,505,1003 daughter of Waltheof Fitzwolfric De HATTON and Unknown, was born in 1155 in Hatton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England.

Margery married Gilbert De VENABLES Of Kinderton.1003 Gilbert was born about 1150 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England.

Margery next married Gilbert De VENABLES 4, son of Gilbert De VENABLES Of Kinderton and Unknown. Gilbert was born in 1175 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.


2011097088. Hervey De SUTTON 4th Lord Of Sutton,743,1004,1005 son of Hugh De SUTTON 3rd Lord Of Sutton and Elizabeth FITZPATRICK, was born about 1168 in Sutton On Trent, , Nottingham, England.389,390

General Notes:
Hervey de Sutton; feudal Lord of Sutton-upon-Trent, Notts; gave the Church of Sutton to the Canons of Radford, Notts; had (Rowland), with two elder sons (Robert, dsp, Richard, had five daughters). [Burke's Peerage]

Hervey married Elizabeth FITZPATRICK about 1190 389,390.,1004 Elizabeth was born about 1170 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Richard SUTTON was born in 1193 in Sutton On Trent, , Nottingham, England 389,390 and died after 1235 389,390.

1005548544      ii.  Rowland De SUTTON Earl Of Sutton Upon Trent (born about 1195 in <, , Nottinghamshire, England> - died before 1258)

              iii.  Thomas SUTTON Priest was born about 1200 in Sutton On Trent, , Nottingham, England.389,390


2011097089. Elizabeth FITZPATRICK,1004 daughter of William FITZPATRICK 2nd Earl Of Salisbury and Unknown, was born about 1170 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390

Elizabeth married Hervey De SUTTON 4th Lord Of Sutton 1005 about 1190 389,390.,1004 Hervey was born about 1168 in Sutton On Trent, , Nottingham, England.389,390

2011097090. Richard De LEXINGTON was born in 1165 in , Tuxford, Nottingham, England.389,390,520

Richard married Alice De LEXINGTON in 1194 in , Tuxford, Nottingham, England 389.,390 Alice was born about 1174 in Tuxford, , Nottingham, England.390,520

Children from this marriage were:

1005548545       i.  Alice De LEXINGTON (born about 1195 in Tuxford, , Nottingham, England)

               ii.  Henry De LEXINGTON was born about 1197 in Tuxford, , Nottingham, England.390,630


2011097091. Alice De LEXINGTON was born about 1174 in Tuxford, , Nottingham, England.390,520

Alice married Richard De LEXINGTON in 1194 in , Tuxford, Nottingham, England 389.,390 Richard was born in 1165 in , Tuxford, Nottingham, England.389,390,520


2011097104. Patrick De SALISBURY 1st Earl Of Salisbury,399,415,505,662,746,861,1006,1007,1008,1009 son of Walter D'evereux SALISBURY Sheriff Of Wiltshire and Sibyl De CHAWORTH Countess Of Salisbury, was born about 1120 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England,389,390 died on 27 March 1168 in Slain In Poitou, Vienne, France 389,390,1006,1009 about age 48, and was buried in St. Hilaire Abbey, Poitiers, Poitou, Vienne, France.389,390 The cause of his death was killed by Guy de Lusignan.

General Notes:
Earldom of Salisbury: The first creation of this title took place some time between June 1142 and 1147, when the Empress Maud, Henry I's daughter made Patrick de Salisbury an Earl. He is sometimes referred to as Earl of Wiltshire and sometimes as Earl of Salisbury, usually the latter. At this time an earldom was an official position rather than title of honour, but was often held by successive members of the same family, though not necessarily by right. Patrick was descended from a line of men who had been Sheriffs of Wiltshire from shortly after the Norman Conquest and who may even have been of English rather than Norman origin. Patrick's son succeeded him as Earl but died leaving an only child, a daughter called Ela or Isabel. Richard I arranged her marriage to William Longespee ("Long Sword"), his illegitimate half-brother by Henry II out of either Rosamund/Rosamond Clifford (the "Fair Rosamond" of tradition) or a woman of obscure antecedents called Hikenai or Ykenai. (Longespee may, however have been born of some other woman altogether). [Burke's Peerage]

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EARLDOM OF WILTSHIRE (II) Note: Hervey de Leon was styled 1st Earl of Wiltshire

EARLDOM OF SALISBURY (I)

PATRICK DE SALISBURY, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir [of Walter de Salisbury, styled also Walter FitzEdward and Walter the Sheriff by Sibyl, da. of Patrick de Chaources], supported the Empress, who made him her Constable, and by whom he was created, within the years 1142 (June)-1147, and probably after July 1143, EARL OF WILTSHIRE, being styled usually EARL OF SALISBURY. He was sheriff of Wiltshire. He was with Henry, Duke of Normandy, at Devizes on 13 April 1149, and again in 1153 (January-August); and at Westminster on 6 November 1153 he witnessed the treaty between Stephen and Henry. After the accession of Henry II, he continued to act as sheriff, and was frequently at Court. In 1163 he was present at the (first) translation of Edward the Confessor. In 1166 he held 40 fees inherited from his father, and 15 of his mother's maritagium, all 55 being of the old fcoffinent. In 1167 he was left in charge of the royal forces in Poitou. He confirmed his father's gifts to Bradenstoke, and was a benefactor to the priory of St. Denys, Southampton, and to the Templars.

He married, 1stly, Maud, daughter of . . . . He married, 2ndly, Ela, widow of William DE WARENNE, 3rd EARL OF SURREY, daughter of William TALVAS, COUNT OF PONTHIEU AND ALENÇON, by Ela, daughter of Eudes, DUKE OF BURGUNDY. He was killed in battle in Poitou by Geoffrey de Lusignan, about 7 April 1168, and was buried in the Abbey of St. Hilaire in Poitiers. His widow died 10 October 1174. [Complete Peerage XI:375-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Noted events in his life were:

• Unknown: Earl of Salisbury, Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England. 390,417,418

Patrick married Maud 1009 in 1st Wife.1009 Maud was born about 1120 in England.

Patrick next married Ela De TALVAISE Countess Of Montreuil 1007,1009,1011,1012 before 1152 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 389,390,1006,1007.,1010 Ela was born from 1118 to 1119 in Alencon, Orne, Normandy, France 389,390 and died on 4 October 1174 in Priory, Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1007,1009,1012 at age 55. Another name for Ela was Ela D' ALENCON.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548552       i.  William FITZPATRICK 2nd Earl Of Salisbury (born about 1150 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England - died on 17 April 1196 in Normandy? (Dspm))

               ii.  Adam FITZWALTER Earl Of Salisbury was born in 1140 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.390,1013

              iii.  Phillip D'ÉVREUX was born about 1152 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390

               iv.  Elizabeth FITZPATRICK was born about 1152 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390


2011097105. Ela De TALVAISE Countess Of Montreuil,415,505,670,1007,1009,1010,1011,1012 daughter of William III TALVAS Count Of Alencon & Ponthieu and Alice (Alix Or Ela) Borel Of BURGUNDY Duchess Of Alençon, was born from 1118 to 1119 in Alencon, Orne, Normandy, France 389,390 and died on 4 October 1174 in Priory, Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1007,1009,1012 at age 55. Another name for Ela was Ela D' ALENCON.

General Notes:
He [William de Warenne] married Ela or Ala, daughter of William TALVAS, COUNT OF PONTHIEU (son of Robert DE BELLÊME, 3rd EARL OF SHREWSBURY), by Ela, widow of Bertrand, COUNT OF TOULOUSE, and daughter of Eudes BOREL, DUKE OF BURGUNDY. He died s.p.m. 19 January 1147/8, being slain when the rearguard of the French King's army was cut to pieces in the defiles of Laodicea. His widow married, probably in or before 1152, Patrick (DE SALISBURY), 1st EARL OF WILTSHIRE or SALISBURY (died 1168). She is said to have died 4 October 1174. [Complete Peerage XII/1:496-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Noted events in her life were:

• Title: Countess of Montreuil, <, Montreuil-Sous-Bois, Seine-St-Denis, France>. 390,417,1010

• Title: Countess of Ponthieu, <, Ponthieu, Picardie, France>. 390,417,1010

• Title: Countess of Salisbury, Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England. 390,417,1010

Ela married William De WARENNE 3rd Earl Of Surrey,1006,1011,1015 son of William De WARENNE 2nd Earl Of Surrey and Isabel (Elizabeth) De VERMANDOIS, about 1136 in 1st Husband 389,390,642,1007,1010.,1014 William was born about 1119 in Lewes, Sussex, England 389,390,1011,1015,1016 and died from 19 January 1147 to 1148 in Laodicea, Holy Lands (Dspm) 389,390,1011,1015 about age 28. The cause of his death was Died in the Holy Land. Another name for William was 03rd Earl Of SURREY William De Warenne.

Noted events in his life were:

• Title: Earl of Warren, , Warren, Sussex, England. 390,417,418,642,1014

• Title: Earl of Surrey, , , Surrey, England. 390,417,418,642,1014

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Isabel De WARENNE 4th Countess Of Surrey was born about 1137 in Lewes, Sussex, England,389,390,971 died on 12 July 1203 in Lewes, Sussex, England 389,390,1017 about age 66, and was buried in Chapter House, Lewes, Sussex, England.389,390 Another name for Isabel was 04th Countess Of SURREY Isabel De Warenne.

               ii.  Gundred (Gundrada) De WARENNE was born about 1145 in Lewes, Sussex, England and died in 1224 in Nuneham Courtenay, Abingdon, Oxfordshire, England 1018 about age 79.

Ela next married Patrick De SALISBURY 1st Earl Of Salisbury 662,746,861,1006,1007,1008,1009 before 1152 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 389,390,1006,1007.,1010 Patrick was born about 1120 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England,389,390 died on 27 March 1168 in Slain In Poitou, Vienne, France 389,390,1006,1009 about age 48, and was buried in St. Hilaire Abbey, Poitiers, Poitou, Vienne, France.389,390 The cause of his death was killed by Guy de Lusignan.

2011097106. Robert III Seigneur De VITRÉ Jr.,415,505,747,750,1019 son of Robert II Seigneur De VITRE and Emma De La GUERCHE, was born about 1120 in Vitre, Ille-Et-Vilaine, Brittany, France 389,390 and died on 11 November 1173 1019 about age 53.

Robert married Emma De DINAN 747,750 about 1150 in <, Hartland, Devon, England> 389.,390 Emma was born about 1123 in Burton, Northamptonshire, England 389,390 and died on 8 December 1208 about age 85.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Maud De VITRE was born about 1146 in Vitre, Ille-Et-Vilaine, Brittany, France and died before 1193. Another name for Maud was Maud De VITERI.

               ii.  André III De VITRÉ was born in 1150 in <, Vitré, Îlle-Et-Vilaine, France> 390,1020 and died in 1223 390,1020 at age 73.

1005548553     iii.  Eleanore De VITRÉ Countess Of Salisbury (born in 1158 in Vitre, Ille-Et-Vilaine, Brittany, France - died before 12 August 1233 in Westcott, Dorking, Surrey, England)


2011097107. Emma De DINAN,415,505,747,750 daughter of Alan De DINAN Of Burton and Agnorie Of BRITTANY, was born about 1123 in Burton, Northamptonshire, England 389,390 and died on 8 December 1208 about age 85.

Emma married Robert III Seigneur De VITRÉ Jr. 747,750,1019 about 1150 in <, Hartland, Devon, England> 389.,390 Robert was born about 1120 in Vitre, Ille-Et-Vilaine, Brittany, France 389,390 and died on 11 November 1173 1019 about age 53.

2011097112. William Le BELWARD 505,1021 was born in 1129 in Cheshire, England.

William married Mabella FITZHUGH.1021 Mabella was born in 1138 in Malpas, Whitchurch, Cheshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548556       i.  William BELWARD Lord Of Malpas (born in 1160 in Malpas, Whitchurch, Cheshire, England)


2011097113. Mabella FITZHUGH 505,1021 was born in 1138 in Malpas, Whitchurch, Cheshire, England.

Mabella married William Le BELWARD.1021 William was born in 1129 in Cheshire, England.


2011097114. Hugh De KEVELIOC 3rd Earl Of Chester,415,505,922,1022,1023,1024,1025,1026 son of Ranulph De GERNON 2nd Earl Of Chester and Maud Fitzrobert De CAEN Countess Of Chester, was born in 1147 in Kevelioc (Cyfeiliog), Monmouthshire, Wales,389,390,1024,1026 died on 30 June 1181 in Leeke, Staffordshire, England 389,390,1022,1024,1026 at age 34, and was buried in , Chester, Cheshire, England.389,390 Another name for Hugh was 06th\3Rd Earl Of CHESTER Hugh De Kevelioc.

General Notes:
EARLDOM OF CHESTER (VI, 3)
Hugh, styled "OF KEVELIOC," EARL OF CHESTER, also VICOMTE D'AVRANCHES, &c., in Normandy, son and heir born at Kevelioc [?Machynlleth], co. Merioneth. He joined in the rebellion against King Henry II, set on foot by Henry, the son of that King, and was taken prisoner at Alnwick, 13 July 1174. He was deprived of his Earldom, and was again in rebellion both in England and Normandy, but, in January 1177, was restored. He married, in 1169, Bertrade, then aged 14 (the King giving her away in marriage "because she was his own cousin "), daughter of Simon de Montfort, Count D'EVREUX by his 1st wife, Maud. He died at Leek, co. Stafford, 30 June 1181, aged about 34 and was buried at St. Werburg's, Chester. His widow died 1227, aged about 7I. [Complete Peerage III:167, XIV:170, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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This nobleman, Hugh (Keveliok), 3rd Earl of Chester, joined in the rebellion of the Earl of Lancaster and the King of Scots against King Henry II, and in support of that monarch's son, Prince Henry's pretensions to the crown. In which proceeding he was taken prisoner with the Earl of Leicester at Alnwick, but obtained his freedom soon afterwards upon the king's reconciliation with the young prince. Again, however, hoisting the standard of revolt both in England and Normandy, with as little success, he was again seized and then detained a prisoner for some years. He eventually, however, obtained his liberty and restoration of his lands when public tranquility became completely reestablished some time about the 23rd year of the king's reign. His lordship m. Bertred, dau. of Simon, Earl of Evereux, in Normandy, and had issue, I. Ranulph, his successor; I. Maud, m. to David, Earl of Huntingdon, brother of William, King of Scotland, and had one son and four daus., viz., 1. John, surnamed le Scot, who s. to the Earldom of Chester, d. s. p. 7 June, 1237; 1. Margaret, m. to Alan de Galloway, and had a dau., Devorguilla, m. to John de Baliol, and was mother of John de Baliol, declared King of Scotland in the reign of Edward I; 2. Isabel, m. to Robert de Brus, and was mother of Robert de Brus, who contended for the crown of Scotland, temp. Edward I; 3. Maud, d. unm.; Ada, m. to Henry de Hastings, one of the competitors for the Scottish crown, temp. Edward I; II. Mabill, m. to William de Albini, Earl of Arundel; III. Agnes, m. to William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby; IV. Hawise, m. to Robert, son of Sayer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester.

The earl had another dau., whose legitimacy is questionable, namely, Amicia,* m. to Ralph de Mesnilwarin, justice of Chester, "a person," says Dugdale, "of very ancient family," from which union the Mainwarings, of Over Peover, in the co. Chester, derive. Dugdale considers Amicia to be a dau. of the earl by a former wife. But Sir Peter Leicester, in his Antiquities of Chester, totally denies her legitimacy. "I cannot but mislike," says he, "the boldness and ignorance of that herald who gave to Mainwaring (late of Peover), the elder, the quartering of the Earl of Chester's arms; for if he ought of right to quarter that coat, then must he be descended from a co-heir to the Earl of Chester; but he was not; for the co-heirs of Earl Hugh married four of the greatest peers in the kingdom."

The earl d. at Leeke, in Staffordshire, in 1181, and was s. by his only son, Ranulph, surnamed Blundevil (or rather Blandevil) from the place of his birth, the town of Album Monasterium, modern Oswestry, in Powys), as 4th Earl of Chester.

* Upon the question of this lady's legitimacy there was a long paper war between Sir Peter Leicester and Sir Thomas Mainwaring---and eventually the matter was referred to the judges, of whose decision Wood says, "at an assize held at Chester, 1675, the controversy was decided by the justices itinerant, who, as I have heard, adjudged the right of the matter to Mainwaring." [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, pp. 365-6, Meschines, Earls of Chester]

Noted events in his life were:

• Title: Viscount of Avranches, , Avranches, Manche, France. 390,417

Hugh married Bertrade De MONTFORT Countess Of Chester 1022,1024,1026 in 1169 in Montfort-Sur-Risle, Eure, Normandy, France 389,390,1022,1024.,1026 Bertrade was born about 1155 in Montfort-L'amaury, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France 389,390,1022,1026 and died on 12 July 1227 in Evreux, Eure, Normandy, France 389,390,1022,1026 about age 72.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548557       i.  Beatrix De KEVELIOC (born in 1169 in Malpas, , Cheshire, England)

               ii.  Amicia De Kevelioc De MESCHINES was born about 1170 in Kevelioc (Cyfeiliog), Monmouthshire, Wales 389,390 and died in Chester, Cheshire, England.

              iii.  Maud Of CHESTER was born in 1171 in Chester, Cheshire, England 1023 and died from 6 January 1232 to 1233 1023 at age 61.

               iv.  Ranulph De MESCHINES Earl Of Chester was born in 1172 in <, Oswestry, Shropshire, England>,389,390,1027 died on 28 October 1232 in , Wallingford, Berkshire, England 389,390,1027 at age 60, and was buried on 3 November 1232 in St. Werburgh, Bristol, Gloucester, England.389,390,1027 Another name for Ranulph was 07th\4Th Earl Of CHESTER Ranulf De Blundeville.

2011090967       v.  Mabel De MESCHINES Countess Of Sussex (born about 1173 in Chester, Cheshire, England - died on 6 January 1233 in <, , Sussex, England>)

               vi.  Agnes De MESCHINES Countess Of Chartley was born about 1174 in <, Tutbury, Stafford, England> 389,390,902 and died on 2 November 1247 in Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England 389,390,1028,1029 about age 73. Another name for Agnes was Agnes De KEVELIOC Heiress Of Chartley.

              vii.  Hawise De MESCHINES Countess Of Lincoln was born in 1180 in <, Chester, Cheshire, England> 389,390,1030 and died before 3 March 1242 389,390,1030. Another name for Hawise was Hawise Of CHESTER.


2011097115. Bertrade De MONTFORT Countess Of Chester,415,505,1022,1024,1026 daughter of Simon III Chauve De MONTFORT Count D'evreux and Maud D'ÉVREUX, was born about 1155 in Montfort-L'amaury, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France 389,390,1022,1026 and died on 12 July 1227 in Evreux, Eure, Normandy, France 389,390,1022,1026 about age 72.

General Notes:
He [Hugh of Kevelioc" married, in 1169, Bertrade, then aged 14 (the King giving her away in marriage "because she was his own cousin "), daughter of Simon de Montfort, Count D'EVREUX by his 1st wife, Maud. He died at Leek, co. Stafford, 30 June 1181, aged about 34 and was buried at St. Werburg's, Chester. His widow died 1227, aged about 7I. [Complete Peerage III:167, XIV:170, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: CP VII Appendix D:716 states that Simon de Montfort only had one wife. His son, a previously unknown Simon, was married to the supposed 2nd wife, Amice de Beaumont as his only wife. See notes under Bertrade's father and brother (both named Simon).

Bertrade married Hugh De KEVELIOC 3rd Earl Of Chester 922,1022,1023,1024,1025,1026 in 1169 in Montfort-Sur-Risle, Eure, Normandy, France 389,390,1022,1024.,1026 Hugh was born in 1147 in Kevelioc (Cyfeiliog), Monmouthshire, Wales,389,390,1024,1026 died on 30 June 1181 in Leeke, Staffordshire, England 389,390,1022,1024,1026 at age 34, and was buried in , Chester, Cheshire, England.389,390 Another name for Hugh was 06th\3Rd Earl Of CHESTER Hugh De Kevelioc.

2011097116. Robert (Roger) De MOHAUT Constable Of Chester,415,1031,1032,1033 son of Robert De MOHAUT and Emma De DELAVAL, was born about 1125 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, England and died about 1162 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, England 1032 about age 37. Another name for Robert was Robert (Roger) De MONTALT.

General Notes: Robert de Mohaut, of Howarden, succeeded c1141, died c1162, hereditary senschal of the Co of Chester; by Leucha, living 1162, perhaps daughter of William Fitz Neel of Halton, Constable of Cheshire. [Ancestral Roots]

Built Mold Castle, Flintshire c1140.

Noted events in his life were:

• Residence: Mold Castle, Holywell, Flintshire, England

Robert married Leucha FITZNEEL 1032.,1033 Leucha was born about 1130 in Halton, Cheshire, England and died after 1162 1032. Another name for Leucha was Leucha FITZNIGEL.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Eustace De MOHAUT Baron Of Hawarden was born about 1155 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, England. Another name for Eustace was Eustace De MONTALT.

               ii.  Roger De MOHAUT & Elford was born about 1160 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, England 390,628 and died in 1232 in Elford, Lichfield, Staffordshire, England 390,628,1031 about age 72. Another name for Roger was Roger De MONTALT.

1005548558     iii.  Robert De MOHAUT (born about 1163 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, England)


2011097117. Leucha FITZNEEL,415,1032,1033 daughter of William II FITZNEEL Lord Of Holton & Widnor and Agnes De GAND, was born about 1130 in Halton, Cheshire, England and died after 1162 1032. Another name for Leucha was Leucha FITZNIGEL.

General Notes: Leucha, living 1162, perhaps daughter of William Fitz Neel of Halton, Constable of Cheshire. [Ancestral Roots]

Leucha married Robert (Roger) De MOHAUT Constable Of Chester 1031,1032.,1033 Robert was born about 1125 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, England and died about 1162 in Castle Montalt, Hawarden, Flintshire, England 1032 about age 37. Another name for Robert was Robert (Roger) De MONTALT.

2011097136. Owain Cyfeiliog Ap GRUFFUDD,505,1034 son of Gruffudd Ap MAREDUDD and Gwerful Verch GWRGENEU, was born in 1125 in Southern Powys, Wales 389,390,1034,1035,1036 and died in 1197 in Monastery Of Strata Marcella 389,390,1034,1035,1036 at age 72.

Owain married Gwenllian I Verch OWAIN 1034 before 1164 in 2ND Husband 389,390,1035.,1036 Gwenllian was born about 1125 in Caernarvonshire, Wales.389,390,1034,1035,1036

Children from this marriage were:

1005548568       i.  Gwenwynwyn Ap OWAIN Prince Of South Powys (born about 1165 in Powys, Wales - died in 1216)

               ii.  Gwerful Verch OWAIN was born about 1141 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales>.390,1035

              iii.  Gwenllian Ferch OWAIN was born about 1146 in Cyfeiliog, Montgomeryshire, Wales.390,1034,1036

               iv.  Cadwallon Ap OWAIN was born about 1140 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales> 390,1036 and died after 1187 390,1036.

                v.  Meddefus Verch OWAIN was born about 1185 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales>.390,1037

               vi.  Annes Verch OWAIN was born about 1148 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales>.390,1036

              vii.  Constance Verch OWAIN was born about 1149 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales>.390,1036

             viii.  Eliwys Ap OWAIN was born about 1154 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales>.390,1036

               ix.  Hywel "Grach" Ap OWAIN was born about 1156 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales>.390,1036

                x.  Daniel Ap OWAIN was born about 1158 in <, Cyfeiliog, Montgomery, Wales>.390,1036


2011097137. Gwenllian I Verch OWAIN,505,1034 daughter of Owain Gwynedd Ap GRUFFUDD King Of Gwynedd and Gwladus Verch LLYWARCH, was born about 1125 in Caernarvonshire, Wales.389,390,1034,1035,1036

Gwenllian married Hwfa Ap CYNWRIG. Hwfa was born about 1100 in Denbighshire, Wales.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Angharad Verch HWFA was born about 1135 in Denbighshire, Wales.

Gwenllian next married Owain Cyfeiliog Ap GRUFFUDD 1034 before 1164 in 2ND Husband 389,390,1035.,1036 Owain was born in 1125 in Southern Powys, Wales 389,390,1034,1035,1036 and died in 1197 in Monastery Of Strata Marcella 389,390,1034,1035,1036 at age 72.


2011097138. Robert I CORBET Baron,415,505 son of Simon CORBET Lord Of Pontesbury and Unknown, was born about 1151 in Pontesbury, , Shropshire, England 389,390 and died in 1222 in Caus Castle, Westbury, Shropshire, England 389,390 about age 71.

Noted events in his life were:

• Title: Baron of Caus, <Castle, Caus, Shropshire, England>. 390,417

Robert married Emma PANTULF in 1180 in Wern, Shropshire, England 389.,390 Emma was born about 1169 in Wem, Shropshire, England 389,390 and died in 1227 389,390 about age 58. Another name for Emma was Emma PANTOLPH.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Thomas CORBET Baron was born in 1182 in <Caus, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England>,389,390 died in September 1274 in Abbey, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England 389,390,1038 at age 92, and was buried in September 1274 in Abbey, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England.389,390

1005548569      ii.  Margaret CORBET (born about 1188 in Wattlesborough, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England)

              iii.  Robert II CORBET Knight was born about 1184 in <Caus, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England> 389,390 and died in 1270 in <Caus, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England> 389,390 about age 86.

               iv.  William I CORBET Knight was born about 1190 in Wattlesborough, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England 389,390 and died after 1254 in Chaddesley Corbet, Worcestershire, England 389,390.

                v.  Grysetaille CORBET Knight was born about 1186 in <Caus, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England>.389,390

               vi.  Alan CORBET was born about 1192 in <Caus, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England>.389,390

              vii.  Hawise CORBET was born about 1194 in <Caus, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England>.389,390

             viii.  Ffelis CORBET was born about 1196 in <Caus, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England>.389,390


2011097139. Emma PANTULF,415,505 daughter of Hugh PANTULF Lord Of Wemme and Christian FITZALAN, was born about 1169 in Wem, Shropshire, England 389,390 and died in 1227 389,390 about age 58. Another name for Emma was Emma PANTOLPH.

Emma married Robert I CORBET Baron in 1180 in Wern, Shropshire, England 389.,390 Robert was born about 1151 in Pontesbury, , Shropshire, England 389,390 and died in 1222 in Caus Castle, Westbury, Shropshire, England 389,390 about age 71.

2011097140. John II Le STRANGE Lord Cheswardine & Ness,415,631,1039,1040 son of John I Le STRANGE Lord Of Cheswardine & Ness and Hawise ??, was born about 1168 in Cheswardine, Market Drayton, Shropshire, England 389,390 and died from before 20 January 1233 to 1234 in Knockin, Oswestry, Shropshire, England 389,390,760,1039,1040.

General Notes:
John II Lestrange; had dealings with his female cousins (Uncle Guy's daughters) over land at Knockin, Salop, 1196/7; negotiator of King John with Llywelyn the Great Prince of North Wales 1204 and 1214; Sheriff of Salop and Staffs 1216; granted manor of Kidderminster 1216; married Amice and died by 20 Jan 1233/4. [Burke's Peerage]

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JOHN LESTRANGE II, son and heir. In 1196/7 he acquired rights in land at Knockin, Salop, from his cousins, daughters of his uncle Guy. In 1198 he took the place of his cousin Ralph, who was ill, in the King's servlce. In 1204 the King asked Llewelin, Prince of North Wales, to grant John a safe conduct to go to and return from him. In 1206 he had sent his knights overseas. In 1212 he was concerned in the management of Album Monasterium; and was returned as holding the manors of Ness and Cheswardine of the grift of King Henry II. In 1213 he was given the custody of the castle of Carreghova; and in 1214 was sent to Llewelin to exact an oath to keep the truce. In 1216 the King committed to him the counties of Staffs and Salop during pleasure, and directed that he was to be treated as sheriff; and in the same year he was to have the manor of Kidderminster during pleasure. In March 1217/8 he was, with Hugh de Mortimer and Henry de Audley, directed to give safe-conduct to the Magnates of North Wales, that they might do homage at Worcester; and in the same month the sheriff of Staffs and Salop was directed to give him an aid from the counties for strengthening his castle at Knockin. On 7 June 1218 he was present at the dedication of Worcester Cathedral. In January 1223/4 he was granted a market at his manor of Hunstanton. On 29 August 1226, as John Lestrange senior, he was granted a pardon for debts and the vill of Wrockwardine for his maintenance during pleasure, for his services to the King and his father; and on 2 September he was appointed to sit with the Bishop of Hereford and others at Album Monasterium to accept the surrender of lands by the Prince of North Wales. He married Amice. He was dead by 20 January 1233/4, when his son did homage. [Complete Peerage XII/1:349-50, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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John le Strange, possessed the lordships of Nesse and Chesewurdine or Cheswardine, in the 11th of King John (1210), which he had by gift from Henry II, and also enjoyed the Manor of Wrockwurdine, which his brother Hamon formerly had. He was Governor of the Castle of Carracove in Wales and Sheriff of the County of Salop, and also the County of Stafford, and in the 3rd of Henry III (1216-1272) he obtained the King's precept for aid to rebuild part of his castle at Knockyn and to repair the rest of it. Having been a liberal benefactor.

John married Amicia De STRANGE 1039,1040 about 1193 in Cheswardine, , Shropshire, England 389.,390 Amicia was born about 1172 in Cheswardine, , Shropshire, England.389,390

Children from this marriage were:

1005548570       i.  John III Le STRANGE Lord Of Knockyn (born before 1193 in Ness & Cheswardine, Shropshire, England - died before 24 March 1268-1269 in Knockin, Oswestry, Shropshire, England)

               ii.  Alice Le STRANGE was born about 1191 in Cheswardine, Market Drayton, Shropshire, England.

              iii.  Hamo Le STRANGE was born about 1196 in Cheswardine, , Shropshire, England 389,390 and died after 1229 389,390.

               iv.  Margery Le STRANGE was born about 1198 in Cheswardine, , Shropshire, England.389,390


2011097141. Amicia De STRANGE 415,631,1039,1040 was born about 1172 in Cheswardine, , Shropshire, England.389,390

Amicia married John II Le STRANGE Lord Cheswardine & Ness 1039,1040 about 1193 in Cheswardine, , Shropshire, England 389.,390 John was born about 1168 in Cheswardine, Market Drayton, Shropshire, England 389,390 and died from before 20 January 1233 to 1234 in Knockin, Oswestry, Shropshire, England 389,390,760,1039,1040.

2011097142. Robert I De TREGOZ Of Ewyas, Sir Knight,415,631,759,1041,1042 son of William De TREGOZ Of Billingford and Agnes, was born before 1169 in Lydiard Tregoze, Cricklade, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1042 and died before 29 April 1215 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England 389,390,760,1041,1042.

General Notes:
TREGOZ (of Ewyas Harold)

Observations.-There can be little doubt that the families of Tregoz, centred in East Anglia and south-east England in the 12th century, were related, and it is very probable that the Tregoz lords of Ewyas Harold, co. Hereford, were also connected with these families. The name comes from Troisgots: Manche, arr. St. Lô, cant. Tessy-sur-Vire [Complete Peerage XII/2:16].

ROBERT DE TREGOZ was probably the son of William DE TREGOZ (who owed the service of 1½ knights in the Cotentin in 1172), and may also have been the man of that name who was a partisan of the young King Henry (eldest son of Henry II) in 1173 and attested his charters in 1175. Robert was active in Normandy during the reigns of Richard I and John. He was with the King there in 1190 and during the years 1194-99, being called the King's Steward in 1194; and was bailiff of the Cotentin in 1195 and 1197, and under John. An agreement made between King Richard and the Count of Flanders in 1197 was witnessed by Robert, who in 1200 was at the determination of the bounds between Evreux and Neufbourg after the peace between King John and Philip Augustus. During the years 1200-04 he was warden of the castles of Gavray, Neaufle and Similly, and custodian of the lands of Simon Pevilene; and in November 1204 he went on royal business to Flanders. He remained faithful to the English Crown after 1204, and his escheated lands in Trégots, Favarches and St. Romphaire were granted by Philip Augustus to Miles de Lévis, November 1218. Robert went to the continent on royal business with William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, in the spring of 1205. He was also active in England, holding many offices during the reign of Richard I. The castle of Salisbury was in his care, 1190-94, and again in 1198 and 1199; he was keeper of the royal houses at Clarendon, 1190-93, and sheriff of Wiltshire in 1191. He farmed Gastard, in Corsham, Wilts, 1191-94, was granted money from Warminster in 1193, and farmed the lands of Geoffrey Hose in Wilts, 1197-1200. He also farmed Bristol, 1196-99. Robert answered for the lands of Alan de Hairun in 1200, was granted estates, in payment of the King's debts to him, at Pencombe, co. Hereford, in 1205, and in the following year he received the manor of Chelworth, Sornerset.

He married, possibly in 1198, Sibyl, daughter and heir of Robert de Ewyas, lord of Ewyas Harold, co. Hereford, by Pernel (Petronilla), his wife (living 28 October 1204.) He died some time before 29 April 1215. Sibyl married, 2ndly, before 13 February 1216/7, Roger, son of Walter DE CLIFFORD, of Clifford Castle, co. Hereford. She died shortly before 1 July 1236. [Complete Peerage XII/2:17-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 26 Apr 1998, by Dave Utzinger:
Note: Dave's source has Robert son of William, son of "Le Sire de Tregoz", but I have Robert son of William, son of William, son of "Le Sire de Tregoz".

From: UTZ ([email protected])
Subject: TREGOZE, part 3
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/04/26

SIR ROBERT DE TREGOZE, second son, was, though such, the great man of the family, and founded its most important branch; and this because he acquired immense wealth by his marriage. He took to wife Sibilla, daughter and heiress of Robert de Ewyas, Lord Ewyas, of Harold Ewyas, in Herefordshire; and in 9th Ric. I. (Easter Term) had a suit with Hermenus de Braton for the advowson of Braton church in Norfolk, part of her vast inheritance. But it appears, that though duly married, a strange contest arose in the 11th John regarding her; when, in Easter Term, William de Newmarket was summoned to show by what right be claimed to wife her who was Robert Tregoz's wife ; for it appears that Richard I had given her to Tregoz in marriage. Whereupon Newmarket came and said that he had married her in the time of Richard the First by gift of Robert de Ewyas her father. It is very certain, however, that Tregoz had sufficient power to retain the heiress; for in 13th John, Michaelmas Term, we find "Robert de Tregoze and Sibilla his wife" impleading Ralph de St. Maur for land in Bren, in Somersetshire, the right of the said Sibilla and in Trin. Term, 14th John, they had recovered the said lands against St. Maur. This Sibilla de Ewyas brought immense domains, including the castle of Ewyas Harold in Herefordshire, into the Tregoze family.

Meanwhile Sir Robert de Tregoze was High Sheriff of Wilts 3rd Ric. I.; and in three years after was engaged in the expedition made into Normandy. In Ist John (1200), he gave the King 200 marks in silver to have granted to him the wardship of the heir and lands of Geoffry Hose; and in 7th John (1206), on collecting the scutage of that King's reign, answered thirty eight marks for nineteen knight's fees belonging to the honour of Robert de Ewyas his father in law. He also held one knight's fee in Irchingfield ; but died about the year 1212.

Sibilla, his wife, survived him, and in 1214 married, secondly, Roger de Clifford, for which marriage that nobleman gave the King 1000?. Roger de Clifford died 1231-2, in the lifetime of his elder brother Walter de Clifford, having had by the said Sibilla a son, Roger de Clifford, a Baron famous for his extraordinary experience in military affairs, ancestor of the Lords de Clifrord. Sibilla herself was dead in 1236, and by Tregoze, her former husband, had two sons and a daughter. [The Topographer and Genealogist, Volume II, 1853]

Robert married Sibyl Heiress De EWYAS 1041,1042 about 1198 in 1st Husband 389,390,760,1041.,1042 Sibyl was born about 1177 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England 389,390 and died before 1 July 1236 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England 389,390,760,1041,1042.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Sir Robert II De TREGOZ Lord Of Ewyas was born before 1205 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England 389,390,1043 and died on 4 August 1265 in Battle Of Evesham, Worcestershire, England 389,390,760,1044,1045.

1005548571      ii.  Lucy De TREGOZ (born about 1210 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England - died in 1294 in Knockton, Warwickshire, England)

              iii.  Geoffrey De TREGOZ was born about 1196 in , Billingford, Norfolk, England 389,390 and died about 1255 389,390 about age 59.


2011097143. Sibyl Heiress De EWYAS,415,631,1041,1042 daughter of Robert II De EWYAS Baron Of Ewyas Harold and Petronilla (Pernel) SCUDAMORE, was born about 1177 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England 389,390 and died before 1 July 1236 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England 389,390,760,1041,1042.

General Notes:
He [Robert de Tregoz] married, possibly in 1198, Sibyl, daughter and heir of Robert de Ewyas, lord of Ewyas Harold, co. Hereford, by Pernel (Petronilla), his wife (living 28 October 1204.) He died some time before 29 April 1215. Sibyl married, 2ndly, before 13 February 1216/7, Roger, son of Walter DE CLIFFORD, of Clifford Castle, co. Hereford. She died shortly before 1 July 1236. [Complete Peerage XII/2:17-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Sibyl married Robert I De TREGOZ Of Ewyas, Sir Knight 759,1041,1042 about 1198 in 1st Husband 389,390,760,1041.,1042 Robert was born before 1169 in Lydiard Tregoze, Cricklade, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1042 and died before 29 April 1215 in Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England 389,390,760,1041,1042.

Sibyl next married Roger I De CLIFFORD,1041,1042 son of Walter II De CLIFFORD Sheriff Hereford and Agnes De CONDET, from before 13 February 1216 to 1217 in 2ND Husband 389,390,1041.,1042 Roger was born in 1190 in Clifford Castle, Hay, Herefordshire, England,389,390 died in 1231 in Tenbury, Worcestershire, England 389,390,1041 at age 41, and was buried in Dore Abbey, Clifford, Hereford, England.389,390

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Roger II De CLIFFORD Lord Of Kingsbury, Sir was born about 1217 in Kingsbury, Tamworth, Warwickshire, England 389,390 and died on 6 November 1285 in Menai Strait, Anglesey, Wales 389,390,649,1046 about age 68.

Sibyl next married Roger DE CLIFFORD, son of Walter II De CLIFFORD Sheriff Hereford and Unknown, before 13 February 1216-1217.760 Roger was born about 1168 of Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England and died in 1232 about age 64.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  ?? DE CLIFFORD.


2011097152. Osbert De CLINTON,415 son of Geoffrey De CLINTON Chamberlain Of Henry I and Unknown, was born about 1126 in Kenilworth Castle, Warwickshire, England.

Osbert married.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548576       i.  Osbert De CLINTON Jr. (born about 1154 in Coleshill, Warwick, England - died before 1200)


2011097154. William De HATTON,415 son of Robert De HATTON and Eleanor CRISPIN, was born about 1141 in <Hatton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England>.389,390

William married Matilda De WARWICK about 1162 in <Hatton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England> 389.,390 Matilda was born about 1142 in Warwickshire, England.389,390

The child from this marriage was:

1005548577       i.  Margaret De HATTON (born about 1163 in Amington, Warwick, England)


2011097155. Matilda De WARWICK 415 was born about 1142 in Warwickshire, England.389,390

Matilda married William De HATTON about 1162 in <Hatton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England> 389.,390 William was born about 1141 in <Hatton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England>.389,390

2011097184. Edward De ODINGSELLS was born about 1105 in Essexshire, England.389,390,1047

Edward married Mrs. Edward De ODINGSELLS about 1128 in <, Pirton, Hereford, England> 389,390.,1047 Mrs. was born in 1107 in <, Pirton, Hereford, England>.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548592       i.  Hugh De ODINGSELLS Sr. (born in 1128 in Pirton, Hertfordshire, England)


2011097185. Mrs. Edward De ODINGSELLS was born in 1107 in <, Pirton, Hereford, England>.

Mrs. married Edward De ODINGSELLS about 1128 in <, Pirton, Hereford, England> 389,390.,1047 Edward was born about 1105 in Essexshire, England.389,390,1047

2011097186. Galfrid De LINDSAY Sr., son of Alan De LINDSAY and Unknown, was born about 1090 in Pirton, Hereford, England.389,390

Galfrid married Amicia De BIDUN about 1121 389.,390 Amicia was born about 1103 in Hertfordshire, England 389,390 and died in Pirton, Hereford, England 389,390.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  John De LINDSAY was born about 1122 in <, Pirton, Hereford, England>.389,390

               ii.  Alan De LINDSAY was born about 1126 in <, Pirton, Hereford, England>.389,390

              iii.  Gerard De LINDSAY Jr. was born about 1128 in , Pirton, Hereford, England.389,390,1048

1005548593      iv.  Basilia De LINDSAY (born about 1143 in Pirton, Hertfordshire, England)

                v.  Amabilia De LINDSAY was born about 1137 in <, Pirton, Hereford, England>.389,390


2011097187. Amicia De BIDUN, daughter of Hanelade De BIDUN and Sara De BIDUN, was born about 1103 in Hertfordshire, England 389,390 and died in Pirton, Hereford, England 389,390.

Amicia married Galfrid De LINDSAY Sr. about 1121 389.,390 Galfrid was born about 1090 in Pirton, Hereford, England.389,390

2011097200. Robert FITZRICHARD Lord Of Dunmow,415,1049 son of Richard Fitzgilbert De CLARE & Tonbridge, Sir and Rohese GIFFARD, was born about 1075 in Tonbridge, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England, died in 1134 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England 1049,1050 about age 59, and was buried in Priory Of St Neot, Cambridgeshire, England.

General Notes: Robert, 5th son of Richard FitzGilbert, Earl of Clare (ancestor of the Earls of Hertford), being steward to King Henry I, obtained from that monarch the Barony of Dunmow in Essex, as also the honour of Baynard Castle, in the city of London, both of which came into the possession of the crown by the forfeiture of William Baynard. This Robert m. in 1112, Maud de St. Liz, Lady of Bradham, dau. of Simon de St. Liz, 1st Earl of Huntingdon, and by her, (who d. in 1140, m. 2ndly, Saer de Quincy) had two sons, Walter, his successor, and Simon, to whom he gave Daventre, in Northamptonshire. He d. in 1134, and was s. by his elder son, Walter FitzRobert. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 212, FitzWalter, Barons FitzWalter]

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Robert, steward to King Henry I, m. Maud, dau. of Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Huntingdon, and had Walter Fitz-Robert, whose son, Robert Fitz-Walter, was one of the most distinguished of the barons who rebelled against John, and was stuled, Marshal of the Army of God and Holy church. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 118, Clare, Lords of Clare, Earls of Hertford, Earls of Gloucester]

Robert married Maud De ST. LIZ 1049,1051 in 1st Husband.1050 Maud was born in 1093 in Huntington, Huntingdonshire, England and died in 1140 in Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England 1049 at age 47. Another name for Maud was Maud De SENLIS.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548600       i.  Walter FITZROBERT Lord Of Dunmow Castle (born about 1120 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England - died in 1198 in Woodham Walter, Malden, Essex, England)

               ii.  Maud FITZROBERT was born before 1134 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England.1052


2011097201. Maud De ST. LIZ,415,505,670,1049,1051 daughter of Simon I De ST. LIZ Earl Of Huntingdon and Matilda De HUNTINGDON, was born in 1093 in Huntington, Huntingdonshire, England and died in 1140 in Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England 1049 at age 47. Another name for Maud was Maud De SENLIS.

General Notes: Maud de St. Liz by her 2nd husband, Saher de Quincy of Buckley and Daventry. [Ancestral Roots]

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Maud de St. Liz, d. 1140; m. Robert Fitz Richard, d. 1134, son of Richard Fitz Gilbert de Clare and gradson of Gilbert, Count of Brionne, who was son of Godfrey, Count of Brionne, illegitimate son of Richard I, the Fearless, Duke of Normandy. [Magna Charta Sureties, line 157-1]

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Maud m. 1st, Robert, son of Richard de Tonbridge, and 2ndly, to William de Albini, according to Dugdale, but Hornby, in his remarks upon Dugdale's errors, proves that such alliances, if not impossible, were very improbable. A Maud de St. Liz is mentioned as wife of Saier de Quincy, being father and mother of Saier, 1st Earl of Winchester. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 468, St. Liz, Earls of Huntingdon]

Maud married Robert FITZRICHARD Lord Of Dunmow 1049 in 1st Husband.1050 Robert was born about 1075 in Tonbridge, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England, died in 1134 in Little Dunmow, Essex, England 1049,1050 about age 59, and was buried in Priory Of St Neot, Cambridgeshire, England.

Maud next married Saier I De QUINCY Lord Of Bushby,1051 son of Richard De QUINCY Of Daventry and Unknown, after 1134 in 2ND Husband.1051 Saier was born about 1098 in Daventry, Northamptonshire, England and died in 1158 in Winchester, Hampshire, England about age 60.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Robert De QUINCY Lord Of Buckley was born about 1138 in Long Buckley, England, Northamptonshire, England and died before 29 September 1198 1051.

               ii.  Alice De SENLIS was born about 1140 in Bushby, Billesdon, Leicestershire, England and died in 1204 in Frampton, Boston, Lincolnshire, England 1053 about age 64.


2011097202. Richard "The Loyal" De LUCY Justiciar-England,415,1054,1055 son of Adrian De LUCY and Aveline GOTH, was born about 1098 in Diss, Norfolk, England and died on 14 July 1179 in Chipping Ongar, Essex, England 1054 about age 81.

General Notes: Lieutenant of England - ruled in Henry II's absence.

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(b) The family appears to have taken its name from Luce, a commune in the department of Orne, about 6 kil. SE of Domfront, and in the bailiwick of Passeis. In the return of the Norman fees of 1172 there occurs the following: "De Passeis . . . Ricards de Lucceio j militem et sibi xvij milites" (H.F., vol xxiii, p. 697 e; so also in Red Book, Rolls Ser., vol ii, pl 639, but beginning "De Baillia de Basseis"). Luce lies geographically in Maine, and its real connection with Normandy dates from the occupation in 1092 of Domfront, the castle of Robert de Belleme, by Henry Beauclerc, the Count of the Cotentin. It seems probable that this particular connection between Henry I and the southern border of Normandy may have first brought the family to the King's notice, a view which is supported by the fact that in a charter for Seez Cathedral dated Feb 1131, Henry mentions a fief which he had bought from Richard de Lucy, and his mother Aveline. [Complete Peerage VIII:257 note (b)]

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The first mention of this family is in a render made by King Henry I of the lordship of Dice, in Norfolk (whether in requital of services, or as an inheritance, the record saith not) to Richard de Lucie, who was governor of Falais, in Normandy, temp. King Stephen, and defended that place with great valour when besieged by Geoffrey, Earl of Anjou, for which heroic conduct he had a grant of lands in the county of Essex with the services of divers persons, to hold by ten knights' fees. In the subsequent contest between Stephen and the Empress Maud, he remained steady in his allegiance to the former and obtained a victory of some importance near Wallingford Castle. Upon the adjustment of the dispute, the Tower of London and the castle of Winchester were, by the advice of the whole clergy, placed in the hands of this feudal lord, he binding himself by solemn oath and the hostage of his son to deliver them up on the death of King Stephen to King Henry, which, being eventually fulfilled, Richard de Lucy was constituted sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire in the 2nd of Henry II, A.D. 1156, and in three years afterwards, being with the king in Normandy, he was despatched to England to procure the election of Thomas à Becket, then lord chancellor, to the archiepiscopal see of Canterbury, vacant by the death of Theobald, Abbot of Becco. Soon after that he was appointed to the high office of Justice of England. In the 12th of this reign [1166], upon the aid then assessed for marrying the king's dau., he certified his knights' fees (lying in the cos. of Kent, Suffolk, and Norfolk) de veteri feoffamento, to be in number seven, and that his ancestors performed the service of Castle Guard at Dover, for the same, as also that he held on knight's fee more, de nova feoffamento, in the co. Devon.

About this time Becket, having fled into Normandy from the power of King Henry, came to Wiceliac to celebrate the feast of the ascension, and observing several persons of distinction present, amongst whom was this Richard de Lucie, he ascended the pulpit and there, with lighted candles, pronounced the sentence of excommunication against them all as public incendiaries betwixt the king and himself, but being neither convicted nor called to answer, they appealed and entered the church. Soon after this (13th Henry II) during a temporary absence of the king beyond sea, de Lucie was constituted Lieutenant of England, and again in 1173, when the Earl of Leicester and others having reared the standard of rebellion in behalf of Prince Henry, he besieged, in conjunction with Reginald, Earl of Cornwall, the town of Leicester and, having reduced it, demolished its walls and laid it in ashes.

In 1178, he founded the priory of Westwode in the diocese of Rochester in honour of St. Thomas, of Canterbury, the martyr, and began, about the same time, the foundation of the priory of Lesnes, in Kent, which he munificently endowed. In this priory he subsequently assumed the habit of a canon regular and departing this life soon after (about 22nd Henry II) [1176], and was buried in the chapter-house there.

He m. Rohais ---, and had issue, Geffrey, who d. in his father's lifetime, leaving Richard, his son and heir, who departing this life, s. p., before 1196, the inheritance devolved upon his aunt, Rohais; Hubert, who had the lordship of Stanford, in Essex, and hundred of Angre, for his livelihood, but d. s. p.; Maude, m. 1st to Walter Fitz-Robert, to whom she brought the lordship or Dice, and 2ndly, to Richard de Ripariis, and d. 27th Henry III, 1243, leaving issue; Rohais, m. 1st, to Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham, in Kent, and 2ndly, Richard de Chilham. This Rohais, upon the decease of her nephew, succeeded to the estates of her elder brother and, upon the death of her younger brother, Hubert, she had livery of the whole barony on paying a fine to the crown in the 9th King John [1208]. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883), pp. 335-6, Lucy, Barons Lucy]

Richard married Rohese Fitzrichard De CLARE.1054 Rohese was born in 1090 in Ely, Cambridgeshire, England and died in 1179 in Holy Trinity Church, London, England at age 89.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Aveline De LUCY was born about 1122 in Dunmow, Essex, England.

               ii.  Geoffrey De LUCY Of Newington, Sir was born in 1125 in Dunmow, Essex, England and died before 1179 in Newington, Kent, England (Dvp).

              iii.  William De LUCY Sir was born about 1127 in Dunmow, Essex, England.

1005548601      iv.  Maud De LUCY (born about 1128 in Diss, Norfolk, England - died after 1163)

                v.  Alice De LUCY was born about 1129 in Luce, Near Maine, Normandy, France 820 and died in 1197 in Prudhoe Castle, Northumberland, England about age 68.

               vi.  Robert De LUCY Of Diss was born about 1131 in Diss, Norfolk, England.


2011097203. Rohese Fitzrichard De CLARE,415,1054 daughter of Richard Fitzrichard De CLARE Abbot Of Ely and Unknown, was born in 1090 in Ely, Cambridgeshire, England and died in 1179 in Holy Trinity Church, London, England at age 89.

Rohese married Richard "The Loyal" De LUCY Justiciar-England 1054.,1055 Richard was born about 1098 in Diss, Norfolk, England and died on 14 July 1179 in Chipping Ongar, Essex, England 1054 about age 81.


2011097208. Henry II "Curt Mantel" PLANTAGENET King Of England,399,415,417,505,642,670,774,775,777,779,827,831,835,1056,1057,1058,1059,1060,1061,1062,1063,1064,1065,1066,1067,1068,1069,1070,1071,1072,1073,1074,1075,1076,1077,1078,1079,1080,1081,1082,1083,1084,1085,1086,1087 son of Geoffrey V "Le Bon"The Fair PLANTAGENET Count Of Anjou And Maine and Maud "The Empress" Princess Of ENGLAND Queen Of England, was born from 5 March 1132 to 1133 in Le Mans, Sarthe, France,389,390,835,1064,1088 was christened on 25 March 1133 in Le Mans, France, died on 6 July 1189 in Chinon Near Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, France 389,390,835,1064,1088 at age 57, and was buried on 8 July 1189 in Fontevrault Abbey, Fontevrault, Maine-Et-Loire, France.389,390 The cause of his death was complications of anal fissure.

General Notes:
Henry II was born at Le Mans in 1133. He was the eldest son of the Empress Matilda, daughter of Henry I, by her second marriage to Geoffrey the Fair of Anjou. His parents' marriage was tempestous, and both parties were glad when politics brought a separation, with Matilda going to England to fight King Stephen, and Geoffrey of Normandy to win a heritage for young Henry.

He first came to England at the age of nine when his mother made her dramatic escape from Oxford where she was besieged by Stephen, across the ice and snow, dressed all in white, to welcome him at Wallingford. His next visit, when he was fourteen, showed his character: he recruited a small army of mercenaries to cross over and fight Stephen in England, but failed so miserably in the execution of his plans that he ended up borrowing money from Stephen to get back home. A third expedition, two years later, was almost as great a failure. Henry was not a soldier, his were skills of administration and diplomacy; warfare bored and sometimes frightened him. For the meanwhile he now concentrated on Normandy, of which his father had made him joint ruler. In 1151, the year of his father's death, he went to Paris to do homage to Louis VII for his duchy. There he met Queen Eleanor, and she fell in love with him.

Henry was by no means averse. To steal a king's wife does a great deal for the ego of a young duke; he was as lusty as she, and late in their lives he was still ardently wenching with 'the fair Rosamund' Clifford, and less salubrious girls with names like 'Bellebelle'; finally, she would bring with her the rich Duchy of Aquitaine, which she held in her own right. With this territory added to those he hoped to inherit and win, his boundaries would be Scotland in the north, and the Pyrenees in the south.

Henry was, apart from his prospects, a 'catch' for any woman. He was intelligent, had learned Latin and could read and possibly write; immensely strong and vigorous, a sportsman and hard rider who loved travel; emotional and passionate, prone to tears and incredible rages; carelessly but richly dressed, worried enough in later life to conceal his baldness by careful arrangement of his hair, and very concerned not to grow fat.

But now he was in the prime of youth, and in 1153, when he landed with a large force in Bristol, the world was ready to be won. He quickly gained control of the West Country and moved up to Wallingford for a crucial battle with Stephen. This was avoided, however, because in thepreparations for the battle Henry fell from his horse three times, a bad omen. Henry himself was not superstitious -- he was the reverse, a cheerful blasphemer -- but he disliked battles and when his anxious advisers urged him to heed the omen, he willingly agreed to parley privately with Stephen. The conference was a strange occasion: there were only two of them there, at the narowest point of the Thames, with Henry on one bank and Stephen on the other. None the less, they seem to have come to an agreement to take negotiations further.

That summer Stephen's son died mysteriously, and Eleanor bore Henry an heir (about the same time as an English whore Hikenai produced his faithful bastard Geoffrey). The omens clearly showed what was soon confirmed between the two -- that when Stephen died, Henry should rule in his place. A year later Stephen did die, and in December 1154, Henry and Eleanor were crowned in London.

Henry was only 21, but he soon showed his worth, destroying unlicensed castles, and dispersing the foreign mercenaries. He gave even-handed justice, showing himself firm, but not unduly harsh. A country racked by civil war sighed with relief. Only two major difficulties appeared: first Henry's failure in his two Welsh campaigns in 1157 and 1165, when guerilla tactics utterly defeated and on the first occasion nearly killed him; second was the reversal of his friendship for Becket when he changed from being Chancellor to Archbishop of Canterbury in 1162.

The quarrel with Becket was linked with the King's determination to continue his grandfather's reform of the administration of justice in the country. He was anxious for a uniform pattern, operated by royal justices, to control the corrupt, ill-administered and unequal local systems operated by barons and churchmen. At Clarendon in 1166 and Northampton in 1176, he got his council's agreeemnt to a series of measures which established circuits of royal justices dealing with the widest range of criminal activities. The method of operation was novel, too, relying on a sworn jury of inquest of twelve men. Though not like a modern jury, in that they were witnesses rather than assessors, the assize juries were the ancestors of the modern English legal system.

Henry travelled constantly, and much of the time in his Contninental territories, for there were constant rebellions to deal with, usually inspired or encouraged by Louis of France. Henry was determined to keep the integrity of his empire, and to pass it on as a unity. To do this was no small task, but in 1169 Henry held a conference with the King of France which he hoped would achieve his objectives: he himself again did homage for Normandy, his eldest son Henry did homage for Anjou, Maine and Brittany, and Richard for Aquitaine. The next year he had young Henry crowned in his own lifetime. If anything could preserve the succession, surely this would, yet, in fact, it brought all the troubles in the world onto Henry's head, for he had given his sons paper domains, and had no intention that they should rule his empire. Yet a man with a title does not rest until he has that title's power.

Late in 1171 Henry had a pleasant interlude in Ireland -- escaping from the world's condemnation for the murder of Becket. He spent Christmas at Dublin in a palace built for him out of wattles by the Irish.

Meanwhile, Eleanor had been intriguing with her sons, urging them to revolt and demand their rights. Early in 1173 they trooped off to the French court, and with Louis joined in an attack on Normandy. Henry clamped Eleanor into prison and went off to meet the new threat. Whilst he was busy meeting this, England was invaded from Flanders and Scotland, and more barons who fancied a return of the warlord days of Stephen broke into revolt.

Plainly it was St. Thomas's revenge, and there was no hope of dealing with the situation without expiation. In July 1174 Henry returned to England, and went in pilgrim's dress to Canterbury. Through the town he walked barefoot, leaving a trail of blood on the flinty stones, and went to keep his vigil of a day and a night by the tomb, not even coming out to relive himself. As he knelt, the assembled bishops and all the monks of Christchurch came to scourge him -- each giving him three strokes, but some with bitterness in their hearts laying on with five.

It was worth it though, for the very morning his vigil ended Henry was brought the news that the King of Scotland had been captured. He moved quickly northwards, receving rebels' submission all the time. He met up with Geoffrey who had fought valiantly for him, and commented, 'My other sons have proved themselves bastards, this one alone is my true and legitimate son.'

Returning to France, he quickly came to an agreement with Louis and his three rebel sons, giving each a substantial income, though still no share of power.

Richard set to work reducing the Duchy of Aquitaine to order, and quickly proved himself an able general who performed tremendous feats, such as capturing a fully manned and provisioned castle with three walls and moats to defend it. But the people were less easy to subdue -- they loved war for its own sake as their poet-leader, Bertrand de Born, shows well in his works: '. . . I love to see amidst the meadows tents and pavilions spread; and it gives me great joy to see drawn up on the field knights and horses in battle array; and it delights me when the scouts scatter people and herds in their path; and my heart is filled with gladness when I see strong castles besieged, and the stockades broken and overwhelmed, and the warriors on the bank, girt about by fosses, with a line of strong stakes, interlaced . . . Maces, swords, helms of different hues, shields that will be riven and shattered as soon as the fight begins; and many vassals struck down together; and the horses of the dead and wounded roving at random. And when battle is joined, let all men of good lineage think of nought but the breaking of heads and arms: I tell you I find no such savour in food or in wine or in sleep as in hearing the shout "On! On!" from both sides, and the neighing of steeds that have lost their riders, and the cries of "Help! Help!"; and in seeing men great and small go down on the grass beyond the fosses; in seeing at last the dead, with the pennoned stumps of lances still in their sides.'

These robust knights were actively encouraged by the young King Henry. He was handsome, charming and beloved of all, but also feckless and thoughtless -- far keener on tournaments and frivolity than the serious business of government. Then in the midle of his new rebellion he caught disentery and shortly died. His devoted followers were thunderstruck -- one young lad actually pined to death -- and the rebellion fizzled out.

The young king was dead, but Henry, wary of previous errors, was not going to rush into making a new one. He called his favourite youngest son, John, to his side and ordered Richard to give his duchy into his brother's hands. Richard -- his mother's favourite -- had made Aquitaine his home and worked hard to establish his control there; he refused to give his mother's land to anyone, unless it were back to Eleanor herself.

Henry packed John off to Ireland (which he speedily turned against himself) whilst he arranged to get Eleanor out of her prison and bring her to Aquitaine to receive back the duchy. Meanwhile the new King of France, Philip, was planning to renew the attack on English territories, all the while the three, Henry, Richard, and Philip, were supposed to be planning a joint crusade.

In 1188 Henry, already ill with the absessed anal fistula that was to cause him such an agonising death, refused pointblank to recognise Richard as his heir. The crazy project for substituting John was at the root of it all, though Henry may have deluded himself into thinking he was playing his usual canny hand.

But diplomacy was giving way to the Greekest of tragedies. In June 1189, Philip and Richard advanced on Henry at his birthplace in Le Mans, and he was forced to withdraw with a small company of knights, showering curses on God. Instead of going to the safety of Normandy, he rode hard, his usual long distance, deep into Anjou. This worsened his physical condition and, in high fever, he made no effort to call up forces to his aid. Forced to meet Philip and Richard, he was so ill he had to be held on his horse whilst he deliriously mumbled his abject agreement to their every condition for peace.

Back in bed after his last conference he was brought the news that John, for whom he had suffered all this, had joined the rebels' side. Two sons -- both rebels -- were dead, two sons -- both rebels -- lived, and it was his bastard Geoffrey who now tended him in his last sickness. There was not even a bishop in his suite to give him the last rites. Over and again he cried out in agony "Shame! shame on a vanquished king!"

After his death the servants plundered him, leaving him in a shirt and drawers. When the marshall came to arrange the burial he had to scratch around for garments in which to dress the body. A bit of threadbare gold edging from a cloak was put around Henry's head to represent his sovereignty.

And yet Henry had forseen it all. According to Gerald of Wales, he had long before ordered a fresco for one of his rooms at Winchester: the picture showed an eagle being pecked by three eaglets, and a fourth perched on his head, ready to peck out his eyes when the time should come. [Source: Who's Who in the Middle Ages, John Fines, Barnes & Noble Books, New York, 1995]

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 1154-1189.

Henry married Rosamond "Fair Rosamond" De CLIFFORD,649,830,1091,1092,1093,1094 daughter of Walter I Fitzrichard De CLIFFORD Sir and Margaret De TOENI Heir Of Clifford Castle, not Married in No Marriage 389,390,1089.,1090 Rosamond was born in 1136 in Clifford Castle, Hay, Herefordshire, England,389,390 died in 1176 in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England 389,390 at age 40, and was buried in 1176 in Chapter House, Godstow, Oxfordshire, England.389,390 Another name for Rosamond was Jane.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Geoffrey PLANTAGENET was born about 1159 in England and died in 1212 about age 53.

Henry next married Lady Ida De TOENI 662,855,1096,1097,1098,1099 not Married in No Marriage 389,390,778,1089.,1095 Ida was born about 1155 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England 389,390 and died on 31 March 1204 of Norfolk, England 389,390 about age 49.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548604       i.  William I LONGESPEE 3rd Earl Of Salisbury (born before 1173 in England - died on 7 March 1225-1226 in Salisbury Castle, Wiltshire, England)



Henry next married Eleanor Of AQUITAINE Duchess Of Aquitaine,835,841,1062,1065,1068,1069,1101,1102,1103,1104,1105,1106,1107,1108 daughter of William VIII Count Of POITOU X Duke D'aquitaine and Eleanor De CHATELLERAULT, on 18 May 1152 in Bordeaux, Gironde, France 835,1088,1089.,1100 Eleanor was born from 1121 to 1122 in Belin Castle, , Guinne, Bordeaux, Aquitaine, France,389,390,835,1100,1109 died on 31 March 1204 in Mirabell Castle, Fontevrault L'AB, Maine-Et-Loire, France 389,390,835,1100,1109 at age 82, and was buried on 1 April 1204 in Fontevrault Abbey, Maine-Et-Loire, Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France.389,390 Another name for Eleanor was Eleanor Of POITOU.

Marriage Notes: divorced wife of Louis VII, King of France per book
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Noted events in her life were:

• Occupation: Duchess, From 1137 to 1204, Aquitaine, France. 1110

• Occupation: Queen Consort of Louis VII, From 1137 to 1151, France. 1110

• Occupation: Queen Consort of Henry II, From 1154 to 1189, England. 1110

• Endowed: Fontevrault Abbey. 1111

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Guillaume De NORMANDIE Prince Of England was born on 17 August 1152 in , Le Mans, Maine-Et-Loire, France,389,390 died in April 1156 in Wallingford Castle, Berkshire, England 389,390 at age 3, and was buried in Reading, Berkshire, England.389,390

               ii.  Henry "The Young King" PLANTAGENET King Of England was born on 28 February 1155 in Bermondsey Abbey, Bermondsey, Surrey, England,389,390 was christened on 28 March 1155, died on 11 June 1183 in Mortel Castle, Turenne, Corrèze, France 389,390 at age 28, and was buried in , Rouen, Seine-Et-Maritime, France.389,390 The cause of his death was dysentery. Another name for Henry was The Young King.

              iii.  Matilda PLANTAGENET Princess Of England was born in June 1156 in Windsor Castle, Berkshire, England, was christened in Aldgate, London, Middlesex, England, died on 28 June 1189 in Brunswick, Germany at age 33, and was buried on 28 July 1189 in St Blasius, Braunschweig, Germany.

               iv.  John I "Lackland" PLANTAGENET King Of England was born on 24 December 1166 in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England,389,390,835,1112 was christened in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England, died on 19 October 1216 in Newark Castle, Nottinghamshire, England 389,390,835,1112 at age 49, and was buried in 1216 in Cathedral, Worcester, Worcestershire, England.389,390 The cause of his death was dysentery. Another name for John was 3rd Earl Of GLOUCESTER John King Of England.1113

                v.  Richard I "The Lion Heart" PLANTAGENET King Of England was born on 8 September 1157 in Beaumont Palace, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England,389,390,1114 was christened on 13 September 1157, died on 6 April 1199 in Battlefield, Chalus, Haute-Vienne, France 389,390,1114 at age 41, and was buried in April 1199 in Abbey Of, Fontevrault, Maine-Et-Loire, France.389,390

               vi.  Geoffrey PLANTAGENET Prince Of England was born on 23 September 1158 in Beaumont Palace, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England,389,390,1115 died on 18 August 1186 in , Paris, Ville-DE-Paris, France 389,390,1115 at age 27, and was buried on 19 August 1186 in Nôtre Dame, Paris, Ville-DE-Paris, France.389,390

              vii.  Philip De NORMANDIE Prince Of England was born about 1160 in Beaumont Palace, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England 389,390 and died about 1160 in Beaumont Palace, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England 389,390.

             viii.  Eleanor Teresa Of England PLANTAGENET Queen Of Castile was born on 13 October 1162 in Falaise, Calvados, Normandie, France,389,390,1116 was christened in Damfront, Normandy, France,389,390 died on 21 September 1214 in Burgos, Segovia, Castile, Spain 389,390,1116 at age 51, and was buried on 31 October 1214 in Huelgas, Burgos, Spain.389,390

               ix.  Joanna PLANTAGENET Princess Of England was born from October 1164 to 1165 in Angers, Maine-Et-Loire, Anjou, France,389,390 died on 4 September 1199 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France 389,390 at age 34, and was buried in Fontevrault L'abbey, Maine-Et-Loire, France.389,390 The cause of her death was childbirth.

Henry next married Nest Verch IORWERTH 996 before 1168 in No Marriage.996 Nest was born about 1150 in Caerleon, Monmouthshire, Wales and died before 1234.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 1248. 1117

Henry next married Alais CAPET Princess Of France,1119,1120,1121 daughter of Louis VII "The Younger" King Of FRANCE King Of France and Constance Of CASTILE, about 1180.1118 Alais was born on 4 October 1160 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France 1121 and died on 18 July 1218 in Castile, Spain 1122 at age 57.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, Abt 1170. 1119

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  PLANTAGENET was born about 1180 and died about 1180.

Henry next married Ykenai Hikenai 788,1123 not Married. Ykenai was born about 1135 of Westminster, Middlesex, England and died about 1159 about age 24.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Geoffrey LONGESPEE Archbishop Of York was born in 1159 in Of, Westminster, Middlesex, England and died on 18 December 1212 in Gresmont, Notre Dame Du Parc, Seine-Maritime, France at age 53.

Henry next married Nest Ferch GRUFFUDD 1092,1124 not Married. Nest was born about 1165 in Wales.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Morgan GAM was born about 1180 in Wales.

Henry next married Alix De PORHOET 1125 not Married. Alix was born about 1155.

Henry next married 3 CONCUBINE not Married. 3 was born in England and died on 31 March 1204.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Peter PLANTAGENET Archdeacon Of Lincoln was born about 1159 in England and died from about 1217 to 1218 about age 58.

               ii.  Morgan Provost Of BEVERLY was born about 1168 in , , , Wales and died about 1217 in Fountains Abbey, Ripon, Yorkshire, England about age 49.

Henry next married Ida OF FLANDERS Countess Of Boulogne--Sur-Mer 1126,1127 not Married. Ida was born about 1150 of Boulogne-Sur-Mer and died in 1216 about age 66.

Henry next married Henry II NORMANDIE Concubine 6 on 5 June 1219 in <, Le Mans, Maine-Et-Loire, France> 389,390,1089.,1095 Henry was born about 1133 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390

Marriage Notes: _STATConcubinage
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Henry next married Henry II NORMANDIE Concubine 2 on 5 June 1219 in <, Le Mans, Maine-Et-Loire, France> 389,390,1089.,1095 Henry was born about 1133 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390

Marriage Notes: _STATConcubinage
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Henry next married Henry II NORMANDIE Concubine 5 on 5 June 1219 in , , , England 389,390,1089.,1095 Henry was born about 1133 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390

Marriage Notes: _STATConcubinage
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Henry next married Ykenai HIKENAI Concubine 1 on 5 June 1219 in <, Le Mans, Maine-Et-Loire, France> 389,390,1089.,1095 Ykenai was born about 1133 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England.389,390

Marriage Notes: _STATConcubinage
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2011097209. Lady Ida De TOENI,399,415,505,662,670,778,855,1096,1097,1098,1099 daughter of Ralph V De TOENI Lord Of Flamstead and Margaret De BEAUMONT, was born about 1155 in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England 389,390 and died on 31 March 1204 of Norfolk, England 389,390 about age 49.

General Notes:
Lady Isabel Plantagenet, daughter of Hameline, Earl of Surrey; wife of Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk; mother of Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk. [Magna Charta Barons, p. 79, 249]

Mother of Henry II's illegitimate son, William Longespee. [The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants, p. 354]

Research Notes:
Using Turton as a source, I orginally had Roger's wife as Ida Plantagenet, daughter of Hamelin Plantagenet and Isabel de Warenne. Mike Lysell, [email protected], posted the following correction, which led me to research and change Ida's ancestry (see post by SGM below):

Jim - You show Roger's wife as Ida Plantagenent, Daughter of Hamelin Plantagenet and Isabelle de Warenne. Records indicate that Isabelle and Hamlin did not marry until 1164. At the time of Ida or Isabella's birth, Isabelle de Warenne was married to William de Blois. According to Fredrick Weis, William de Blois died without issue.

I found the following information on Paul McBride's web page at homepages.rootsweb.com~pmcbride: "Isabella (Ida) (1152-)

"NOT the daughter of Hameline Plantagenet and Isabel de Warren. Turton says she is the daughter of Hameline Plantagenet and Isabel de Warren, but many others dispute that.
b. ABT 1152 r. Sussex, Eng.

"Married first Henry_II Curtmantle King of England (1132-1189)

"Married second Roger BIGOD 2nd Earl of Norfolk (1150-1221)"

Paul also shows this Ida or Isabella as the mother of William Longespee. Paul lists a number of sources on his site.

According to a note on James Dow's web site, a researcher named Ray Phail recently confirmed that Roger Bigod's wife Ida and Henry II's misteress Ida were the same person. I didn't see a date or any sources here.

I've no idea of the accuracy of the above but it does help explain the confusion over Hamilin and Isabelle's date of marriage and Ida Plantagenet's birth date.

Mike Lysell

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The following post by Paul Reed to SGM, 20 Sep 2000, analyzes the possible parents of Ida, but I tend to agree with Douglas Richardson (as suggested below) that Ida was daughter of Roger de Toeny and Margaret Beaumont, partially because the estimate of William's birth date is open to question: Royal sons, even bastard ones, tended to do things at a younger age (earlier than 21) than non-Royals, therefore I am keeping William's birth as "bef 1173". Even though many other sources have William Longespee's mother as Rosemond de Clifford (among others), Ida was established as William Longespee's mother and mistress of Henry II in a reference by William himself to his mother "Countess Ida". Ida de Toeni seems the most likely based on the few countesses of the appropriate age named Ida.

From: Reedpcgen ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Countess Ida identification [more analysis--long]
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/09/20

We can further narrow down the possible English parentage for Countess Ida with a little more certainty. To recap some past conclusions for newer members (and for those of us whose memories are not what they once were):

We had determined that DNB and the other standard sources that attributed a grant of the manor of Appelby, co. Lincoln, in 1188 to William Longespee (the illegitimate son of Henry) were in error. I had discussed evidence that showed it was held by other families at that period [see a post I made 7 March 1998], and John Sharp reminded us [posted to this group that same date] of an assize record that proved the William Longespee involved was actually the king's legitimate brother (also named William Longespee), not the illegitimate son.

We then determined--throwing out the erroneous attribution--that the earliest date we could attribute to William was 1191, which we concluded gave him an estimated birth date of 1170; but he could easily have been BORN EARLIER than 1170. This would give a date of conception in 1169, if not before.

[William Longespee was highly favored by his brother Richard I, being given important lands in 1191, and the entire Earldom of Salisbury with the five year old heiress in 1196. I take this to indicate that Richard and William were very familiar and had spent much time together before William attained majority -- possibly as a member of the royal household. Henry had plenty of other illegitimate offspring who were not awarded these honors and trust.]

How old was Ida when William Longespee was born? If we determine that fifteen was on the younger side for a mistress of Henry, but that she might possibly have been as old as twenty-five, we have a possible range for her birth between 1144 and 1154.

But remember, again, that William Longespee may well have been born before 1170; we might consider 1154 to be the latest year Ida might be expected to be born. The odds would be more favorable for an earlier year.

Let's compare this with what we know about the Toeni family. CP had determined that Roger [III] de Toeni was born possibly about 1104, given that his parents were married in 1103.

It would be ideal for a feudal lord to have a legitimate male heir right off the bat, but that did not always happen. The older sons might have been born first and died in their youth. Daughters might be born first. It would easily be possible that the husband of Ida of Hainault was born some years after 1110.

I had concluded that the heir of Ralph [V] de Toeni (Ida's son)--which heir was described as but a little boy at his father's death in 1162--was therefore likely born about 1155-1160. Adrian reminded me that CP 7:530, note "e" [under Leicester] states that Margaret de Beaumont did not married Ida of Hainault's son Ralph [V] de Toeni UNTIL AFTER 1155.

Given that Countess Ida was probably born BEFORE 1154, much more likely closer to 1144, she would not be daughter of Margaret de Beaumont. Remember that Ida of Hainault's second son, Roger [IIIa] de Toeni, married Ada/Aude de Chaumont, who was not born UNTIL about 1155. Another of Ida of Hainault's four sons went to be trained and fight with his uncle, Count Baldwin, and the last was a cleric.

Given this chronology, it may be that Ida of Hainault's sons were born about 1130-40 (remember, this is a very rough estimation). It would not be unreasonable for Ida of Hainault to have had a daughter also named Ida born about 1145-50.

If, on the other hand, Roger [III] de Toeni was actually born about 1104, and his wife Ida of Hainault a similar year (say 1105), Ida of Hainault might have had daughters born about 1125-30 who could themselves have had a daughter named Ida born about 1144-54.

Though any daughter of Ida of Hainault was a Toeni, their husband would have had a different surname. Remember that we are dealing with a very early period with relatively few surviving records to aid us. If Countess Ida was not a daughter of Ida of Hainault herself, but a granddaughter, odds are that she was NOT a daughter of one of Ida of Hainault's sons (and not a daughter of the eldest son by Margaret de Beaumont, who was married after 1155), but a daughter of one of Ida of Hainault's daughters.

Paul C. Reed, FASG

Ida married Henry II "Curt Mantel" PLANTAGENET King Of England 779,827,831,835,1061,1062,1063,1064,1065,1066,1067,1068,1069,1070,1071,1072,1073,1074,1075,1076,1077,1078,1079,1080,1081,1082,1083,1084,1085,1086,1087 not Married in No Marriage 389,390,778,1089.,1095 Henry was born from 5 March 1132 to 1133 in Le Mans, Sarthe, France,389,390,835,1064,1088 was christened on 25 March 1133 in Le Mans, France, died on 6 July 1189 in Chinon Near Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, France 389,390,835,1064,1088 at age 57, and was buried on 8 July 1189 in Fontevrault Abbey, Fontevrault, Maine-Et-Loire, France.389,390 The cause of his death was complications of anal fissure.

Ida next married Roger BIGOD 2nd Earl Of Norfolk, Mcs 954.,1128 Roger was born about 1150 in Framlingham Castle, Suffolk, England 1129 and died before 2 August 1221 in Thetford, Norfolk, England 1130.

Children from this marriage were:

2011091030       i.  Hugh BIGOD 3rd Earl Of Norfolk, Mcs (born about 1178 in Framlingham Castle, Suffolk, England - died BET 11 AND 18 FEB 1224/25 in Thetford, Norfolk, England)

               ii.  Margaret BIGOD was born about 1183 in Thetford, Norfolk, England and died in 1237 about age 54.

              iii.  Alice BIGOD Heiress Of Prayers was born about 1188 in Prayers Manor, Sible Hedingham, Essex, England and died after 1215 in Great Abington, Linton, Cambridgeshire, England 1131.

               iv.  Mary BIGOD was born about 1196 in Thetford, Norfolk, England.


2011097210. William FITZPATRICK 2nd Earl Of Salisbury,415,505,744,745,746,747,748 son of Patrick De SALISBURY 1st Earl Of Salisbury and Ela De TALVAISE Countess Of Montreuil, was born about 1150 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England,389,390,630,747,749 died on 17 April 1196 in Normandy? (Dspm) 389,390,747,748 about age 46, and was buried in Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, England. Another name for William was William Fitzpatrick 2Nd Earl Of SALISBURY.

General Notes:
EARLDOM OF WILTSHIRE (III)

EARLDOM OF SALISBURY (II)

WILLIAM (of SALISBURY, styled also FITZPATRICK), EARL OF WILTSHIRE, styled always EARL OF SALISBURY, son and heir by 2nd wife, received the 3rd penny of Wilts in 1168. He remained loyal during the rebellion of the King's sons, 1173-74. In 1177 the Earl was one of those for whom the King provided a ship, for the crossing to Normandy in his train. He was sheriff of Wilts 1189-90 and 1191-96. At Richard's Coronation, 3 September 1189, he bore the sceptre with the dove; and he appears to have been in close attendance upon the King until he left Dover for Normandy, 12 December. In 1190-91 he served personally in Wales. From Lent to the Close of Easter 1194 he was sheriff of Dorset and Somerset. On Richard's return from captivity, he attended the Great Council at Nottingham in March, and at the King's 2nd Coronation at Winchester, 17 April, he was one of the 4 earls carrying the canopy. In the summer of 1194 he was fighting in Normandy.

He married Eleanor, widow of Gilbert CRESPIN, lord of TILLIÈRES (died on crusade, 1190), relict of William PAYNEL of Hambye (died 1184), and daughter of Robert DE VITRÉ, by Emma, daughter of Alan DE DINAN. He died (? in Normandy) 1196, and was buried at Bradenstoke. His widow married, 4thly, Gilbert DE MALESMAINS, who in 1198, and later, was holding in her right both her inheritance and her dower. In 1205 he appears to have adhered to France, while the Countess was permitted peaceful enjoyment of her lands in England. She died between 31 May 1232 and 12 August 1233, and was buried in the Abbey of Mondaye, near Bayeux, of which she was a benefactress. [Complete Peerage XI:378-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Noted events in his life were:

• Title: Earl of Salisbury, Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England. 390,417,744

• Title: Viscount of Malpas, Malpas, , Cheshire, England. 390,417,418

William married Eleanore De VITRÉ Countess Of Salisbury 747,750,751 about 1190 in 3rd Husband 389,390,630,744.,747 Eleanore was born in 1158 in Vitre, Ille-Et-Vilaine, Brittany, France,389,390 died before 12 August 1233 in Westcott, Dorking, Surrey, England 389,390,750, and was buried in Mondaye Abbey, Bayeux, Calvados, Normandy, France.

William next married about 1170 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England 390.,749

2011097211. Eleanore De VITRÉ Countess Of Salisbury,415,505,744,747,750,751 daughter of Robert III Seigneur De VITRÉ Jr. and Emma De DINAN, was born in 1158 in Vitre, Ille-Et-Vilaine, Brittany, France,389,390 died before 12 August 1233 in Westcott, Dorking, Surrey, England 389,390,750, and was buried in Mondaye Abbey, Bayeux, Calvados, Normandy, France.

General Notes:
He [William FitzPatrick] married Eleanor, widow of Gilbert CRESPIN, lord of TILLIÈRES (died on crusade, 1190), relict of William PAYNEL of Hambye (died 1184), and daughter of Robert DE VITRÉ, by Emma, daughter of Alan DE DINAN. He died (? in Normandy) 1196, and was buried at Bradenstoke. His widow married, 4thly, Gilbert DE MALESMAINS, who in 1198, and later, was holding in her right both her inheritance and her dower. In 1205 he appears to have adhered to France, while the Countess was permitted peaceful enjoyment of her lands in England. She died between 31 May 1232 and 12 August 1233, and was buried in the Abbey of Mondaye, near Bayeux, of which she was a benefactress. [Complete Peerage XI:378-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 14 Aug 2002, by Rosie Bevan:

From: "Rosie Bevan" ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Eleanor de Vitre
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-08-14 19:21:07 PST

. . . William Paynel and Eleanor his wife gave their moiety of the church of Ryes to the abbey of Longues in the Bessin [Their gift was confirmed by Henry II, 1185-89 - Delisle and Berger, Recueil des Actes de Henri II, ii, no. 757]. Eleanor married secondly, Gilbert de Tillieres who died in the Holy Land in 1190, leaving issue; thirdly William of Salisbury who died in 1196, leaving an only daughter; and fourthly Gilbert Malmains; she died 1231-33 and was buried in the abbey of Mondaye near Bayeux [Rot. Scacc. Norm. ii, p. xlivn where there is a long note on Eleanor and her connections. See also F.M.Powicke, Loss of Normandy, p.516.]" . . .

Eleanor de Vitre had a son and two daughters by Gilbert de Tillieres - Gilbert VI, who died s.p., Juliana and Joan. Juliana married Baldwin Rastel and became Lady of Tillieres on her brother's death. Juliane left a daughter Hilaria who was married to Sir James de Bovelingham who became lord of Tillieres in her right. They appear not to have issue. Eleanor de Vitry made a donation for her daughter Juliana's soul at the abbey of St Martin at Mondaye. Joan, the younger daughter, married Thomas Malmains (Eleanor de Vitre's stepson by her fourth husband). King John granted the manor of Burton Latimer to Thomas Malmains in the right of Joan his wife on 29 Aug 1216 [Rot. Pat. ed. T.D Hardy 1835 p.195 ; M. Jackson Crispin, Falaise Roll, p.188 ; VCH Northants, v.3, p.181/182.]

Below is a reconstruction of Eleanor's immediate descendants

1.Eleanor de Vitre b.c.1165 d.1231/33
+ 1.William Paynel d.1184
........2. William Paynel c1181-1188 s.p.
+ 2.Gilbert V de Tillieres b. c 1185 d.1190
........2.Gilbert VI de Tillieres d.s.p.1222
........+..da. of Phillipe, Lord of Creully
........2. Juliana, Lady of Tillieres b.c 1187
........+ Baldwin de Rastel d. by 1227
................3. Hilaria, Lady of Tillieres d. by. 1247 d.s.p.?
................+ Sir James de Bovelingham d. by 1247
........2. Joan de Tillieres b. c. 1189 d.1221
........+ Thomas Malmains (stepson of Eleanor de Vitre) d.1219
................3. Nicholas Malmains b.1204 d. by 1240
................+ Beatrice
........................4. Ela Malmains
........................+ Robert de Plessy
................3. Hilaria Malmains (had lands in Burton Latimer, Northants. as a marriage portion. These had been originally granted to Alan de Dinant by Henry I)
................+ Walter de Godardville
+ 3. William, earl of Salisbury d.1196
........2. Ela, Countess of Salisbury d.1261 Had issue
........+ William Longespee d.1226
+ 4. Gilbert Malmains d.1217

The fact that Eleanor's marital life is so well documented and her families are so intertwined, leads me to believe that the charter relating to the gift of Canford church to Bradenstoke priory must be an amended copy. This is because the gift was confirmed by Henry II before his death in 1189 at a time when Eleanor was still married to Gilbert de Tillieres. It is possible the original charter of gift mentioned the soul of William's countess without actually naming her, and the monk rewriting/copying the charter obligingly inserted the name of Ela's mother. This may indicate, as we might expect, that William earl of Salisbury had a previous wife/wives. It also makes one wonder how many other Bradenstoke charters were reinvented.....

Cheers

Rosie

Noted events in her life were:

• Title: Countess of Salisbury, Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England. 390,417,418,744

Eleanore married William PAYNEL Of Hambye 750 in 1st Husband.750 William was born about 1148 in Hambye, Manche, Normandy, France and died in 1184 750 about age 36.

Eleanore next married Gilbert CRESPIN Seigneur De Tillieres 750,751 after 1184 in 2ND Husband 750.,753 Gilbert was born about 1140 in Tillieres, Maine-Et-Loire, Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France and died in 1190 in Seige Of Acre, Palestine 750 about age 50. Another name for Gilbert was Gilbert Crespin De TILLIERES.

Eleanore next married William FITZPATRICK 2nd Earl Of Salisbury 745,746,747,748 about 1190 in 3rd Husband 389,390,630,744.,747 William was born about 1150 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England,389,390,630,747,749 died on 17 April 1196 in Normandy? (Dspm) 389,390,747,748 about age 46, and was buried in Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, England. Another name for William was William Fitzpatrick 2Nd Earl Of SALISBURY.

Eleanore next married Gilbert De MALMAINS Of Waldershare 750,751,754 before 1198 in 4th Husband 2ND Wife.750 Gilbert was born about 1158 in Maaman's Hall, Waldershare, Kent, England and died in 1217 in Cooling, Hoo, Kent, England 751 about age 59. Another name for Gilbert was Gilbert De MALESMAINS.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 1205. 750

2011097212. Gerald De CAMVILLE Of Lilbourne,415,801,802,1132 son of Richard De CAMVILLE Of Lilbourne & Stanton and Millicent De Stanton De RETHEL, was born about 1140 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England and died in 1214 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England about age 74.

General Notes: Gerald de Camville purchased from King Richard the custody of Lincoln Castle and the province adjacent. This Gerald was a very powerful feudal lord in the reign of John, to which monarch he staunchly adhered. He m. Nichola, eldest dau. and co-heiress of Richard de Haye, and left an only son and heir, Richard, who m. Eustachia, dau. and heiress of Gilbert Bassett, and widow of Thomas de Vernon, and left an only dau. and heiress, Idonea, who m. William, son of William de Longespee, Earl of Salisbury. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 100, Camville, Barons Camville, of Clifton]

Gerald married Nichola De LA HAYE 801,802.,1132 Nichola was born about 1150 in Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England and died in 1230 about age 80.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548606       i.  Richard De CAMVILLE Of Brattleby (born about 1175 in Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England - died after FEB 1216/17)

               ii.  Nichole De CAMVILLE was born about 1198 in Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England.


2011097213. Nichola De LA HAYE,415,801,802,1132 daughter of Richard De LA HAYE Of Brattleby and Maud De VERNON, was born about 1150 in Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England and died in 1230 about age 80.

Nichola married Gerald De CAMVILLE Of Lilbourne 801,802.,1132 Gerald was born about 1140 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England and died in 1214 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England about age 74.

2011097214. Gilbert BASSET Of Bicester,415,644,645,1133 son of Thomas BASSET Of Headington and Adeliza (Alice) De DUNSTANVILLE, was born about 1158 in Headington, Oxfordshire, England and died before 1206 in Bicester, Oxfordshire, England 1133.

General Notes: Gilbert founded Bicester Priory in 1182. [Hal Bradley citing Keats-Rohan's "Domesday Descendants", p. 167]

Gilbert married Egeline De COURTENAY. Egeline was born about 1160 in Colston, Nottinghamshire, England and died about 1214 about age 54.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548607       i.  Eustacia BASSET (born about 1185 in Bicester, Oxfordshire, England - died in 1215 in Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England)

               ii.  Lucia BASSET was born in 1196 in Bicester, Oxfordshire, England.


2011097215. Egeline De COURTENAY,415 daughter of Renaud II Sire De COURTENAY Of Sutton and Hawise DEINCOURT, was born about 1160 in Colston, Nottinghamshire, England and died about 1214 about age 54.

Egeline married Gilbert BASSET Of Bicester 644,645.,1133 Gilbert was born about 1158 in Headington, Oxfordshire, England and died before 1206 in Bicester, Oxfordshire, England 1133.


2011097344. Sir William Le VAVASOUR Of Hazlewood, Sir Knight,235,309,399,415,425,662,809,1134 son of Mauger III Le VAVASOUR Of Hazlewood, Sir and Unknown, was born in 1131 in Hazlewood And Storiths, Skipton, Yorkshire, England and died before 29 June 1191 in Hazlewood And Storiths, Skipton, Yorkshire, England 425,1134.

General Notes:
William le Vavasour (ie. "the vassal", or "the sub-tenant"); witness to a charter c 1158-63; died after Michaelmas 1189 but before 29 Jun 1191. [Burke's Peerage]

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VAVASOUR

Observations.-The family of Vavasour of Hazlewood, parish of Tadcaster, descends from Mauger, tenant in Yorkshire of both William de Percy and Ilbert de Lacy in 1086 (e). At an uncertain date, temp. Henry I, a witness to a charter of Alan de Percy, was named Mauger. [Complete Peerage XII/2:230, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(e) Mauger was tenant of William de Percy at Barnby-upon-Don, Cocksford, Edlington, Hazlewood, and Stutton, while he held Hessle, par. of Wragby, of Ilbert de Lacy. The word Vavasour means a vassal, or under-tenant.

WILLIAM LE VAVASOUR witnessed a charter, circa 1158-63, and he was amerced in 1165-66, 1166-67 and 1175-76. In 1166 he held 2 knights' fees of William de Percy, 1/3 knight's fee of Henry de Lacy and ½ knight's fee of the Honor of Skipton. He was a custodian of the lands of the Archbishop of York, 1183-90, a Justice itinerant, 1184 and 1187-89, farmed the lands of William Paynel, 1185-88, and levied tallage, 1187-89. He was an adviser of Maud, Countess of Warwick. He died between Michaelmas 1189 and 29 June 1191. [Complete Peerage XII/2:231, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

William married Matilda PERRY. Matilda was born about 1133 in Yorkshire, England.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548672       i.  Sir Robert Le VAVASOUR 2nd Lord Of Haselwood (born about 1160 in Hazlewood And Storiths, Skipton, Yorkshire, England - died in 1231 in Hazlewood And Storiths, Skipton, Yorkshire, England)

               ii.  Elizabeth VAVASOR was born about 1162 in Haselwood, Yorkshire, England.

              iii.  Sir Henry Le VAVASOR was born about 1164 in Haselwood Castle, Yorkshire, England.

               iv.  William Le VAVASOR was born about 1166 in Haselwood Castle, Yorkshire, England and died of Danby, Yorkshire, England.


2011097345. Matilda PERRY 235,309,399,415 was born about 1133 in Yorkshire, England.

Matilda married Sir William Le VAVASOUR Of Hazlewood, Sir Knight 425,662,809.,1134 William was born in 1131 in Hazlewood And Storiths, Skipton, Yorkshire, England and died before 29 June 1191 in Hazlewood And Storiths, Skipton, Yorkshire, England 425,1134.

2011097346. Thomas II De MULTON Sir,415,505,1135,1136,1137 son of Thomas I De MULTON and Eleanor De BOSTON, was born before 1180 in Moulton, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England 1137 and died in 1240 in Burgh-By-Sands, Cumberland, England 1137.

General Notes: Thomas received wardship of Ada's 1st husband Richard de Lucy's daughters; and he married them to his sons.

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THOMAS DE MULTON, son and heir. He was the builder of the family fortunes both by his personal abilities and the rich marriages which he contrived to secure for himself and his children. He had succeeded his father by 1201; in 1202 was abroad in the King's service, and had pardon of tallage for himself and his men in 1204. He gave 500 marks in 1205 to be sheriff of Lincs for 7 years, but was thrown into prison in Rochester in the summer of 1208. His brother Alan appears to have served for him with the King in Ireland in 1210, and he himself to have taken part in the King's campaign in North Wales in the following year. He had regained credit and the King's favour by 1213. He presumably took part in John's disastrous expedition to Poitou, February to November 1214, and was with the King at Guildford early in 1215, but at the Easter meeting at Stamford declared himself on the side of the Barons. In December he was taken at the capture of Rochester Castle, and imprisoned at Corfe. His castle of Moulton and lands were seized and committed to the Earl of Chester. Negotiations for his liberation went on till after the death of John, and a heavy ransom was paid. He was excommunicated by name among the insurgent Barons and their chief adherents. He returned to his allegiance 29 July 1217. In 1218, after his 2nd marriage, he had order for livery of the castle of Egremont and lands in Coupland, and all his wife's lands in Cumberland and Westmorland, and was made justice in Eyre of those counties and Lancs. He was appointed a justice of the Common Pleas in 1224, and sat till 1236. He was knighted by November 1224. In Feb. following at Westminster he witnessed the confirmation of the Magna Carta and the Charter of the Forest. In 1226 he was appointed chief keeper of the annual fair at Boston. In April 1230 he was in charge of money and jewels which the King was taking to France; in May he was made joint keeper of the coast and ports of Lincs; and in October the castle of Miserden, Glos., was committed to him. He was appointed sheriff of Cumberland, with custody of Carlisle Castle, 27 January 1232/3, acting till Easter 1236; and in April 1238 a commissioner to "extend" lands in Cumberland and Northumberland for the King of Scots.

He married, 1stly, possibly circa 1190, Sarah, daughter and heir of Richard DE FLETE (son of Josce DE FLETE), by Juliane, who brought him the manor of Fleet, Lincs. He married, 2ndly, before 10 March 1217/8, Ada, widow of Richard DE LUCY (died 1213), and elder daughter and coheir of Hugh DE MORVILL, by [query] Heloise DE STUTEVILLE, which Ada was mother of the two heiresses to whom he married his sons (see Lucy). He died in 1240, His widow died shortly afterwards. [Complete Peerage IX:399-401, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Thomas married Sarah De FLETE 1138,1139 about 1190 in 1st Wife.1138 Sarah was born about 1180 in Fleet, Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England and died before 1217 1138.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548673       i.  Juliane De MULTON (born after 1195 of Sutton, Yorkshire, England - died after 30 September 1233 in Edlington, Yorkshire, England)

               ii.  Lambert De MULTON Of Egremont was born about 1200 in Moulton, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England and died before 16 November 1246 in Egremont, Cumberland, England 1139,1140.

              iii.  Alan De MULTON Of Copeland was born about 1205 in Moulton, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England and died after 1250 in Copeland, Cumberland, England 1141.

Thomas next married Ada De MORVILLE,1142,1143 daughter of Hugh De MORVILLE Of Burgh & Knaresborough and Helwise (Helewise\Heloise) De STUTEVILLE, on 10 March 1217-1218 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 1142.,1143 Ada was born about 1187 in Burgh-By-Sands, Cumberland, England and died after 1230 1136,1142. Another name for Ada was Ada De MOREVILLE.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 1240. 1144

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Thomas III De MULTON Of Gillesland, Sir was born before 1221 in Burgh-By-Sands, Cumberland, England 1145 and died from before 14 January 1270 to 1271 in Gilsland, Irthington, Cumberland, England 1145. Another name for Thomas was Thomas De MOULTON.


2011097347. Sarah De FLETE,415,505,1138,1139 daughter of Richard De FLETE and Juliane, was born about 1180 in Fleet, Holbeach, Lincolnshire, England and died before 1217 1138.

General Notes: He [Thomas de Multon] married, 1stly, possibly circa 1190, Sarah, daughter and heir of Richard DE FLETE (son of Josce DE FLETE), by Juliane, who brought him the manor of Fleet, Lincs. [Complete Peerage IX:399-401, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Sarah married Thomas II De MULTON Sir 1135,1136,1137 about 1190 in 1st Wife.1138 Thomas was born before 1180 in Moulton, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England 1137 and died in 1240 in Burgh-By-Sands, Cumberland, England 1137.

2011097350. Jordan De ST. MARY 399,415,652,1146 was born about 1165 in St. Mary, Yorkshire, England.

Jordan married Alice HAGET 1146.,1147 Alice was born about 1170 in Friston, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England. Another name for Alice was Alice Haget De FRISTON.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Elizabeth De ST. MARY was born about 1198 in St. Mary, Yorkshire, England and died before December 1246 1146.

1005548675      ii.  Nicole De ST. MARY (born about 1200 in Edlington, Yorkshire, England - died after 3 February 1247)


2011097351. Alice HAGET,399,415,1146,1147 daughter of William II De FRISTON and Alice HAGET, was born about 1170 in Friston, Plomesgate, Suffolk, England. Another name for Alice was Alice Haget De FRISTON.

Alice married Jordan De ST. MARY 652.,1146 Jordan was born about 1165 in St. Mary, Yorkshire, England.

2011097352. Henry II Le WALEYS Of Burghwallis, Sir,399,415,1146 son of Robert Le WALEYS Of Skellow & Burghwallis and Dionisia POITEVIN, was born about 1185 in Burgh Wallis, Doncaster, West Riding Yorkshire, England and died after April 1248 1146.

General Notes:
HENRY LE WALEYS, son and heir, was Steward of John de Lacy, 1216-18, and later. He was a Justice of novel disseisin in Yorks in 1232; collector of 1/40 in 1232 and of 1/30 in 1237; was excused from being laced on assizes in 1236; and appointed in 1242 to aid the sheriff to keep the peace and hold an assize of arms in Yorks.

He married, 1stly, circa 1197-1208, [---] daughter and heir of Walter DE FERLINGTON. He married, 2ndly, before 1226, Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of Jordan DE ST. MARY, by Alice, daughter and eventually heir of William DE FRISTON. She died before the end of 1246. He married, 3rdly, Denise, who was living as his widow, 21 November 1251. He died between April 1248 and that date. [Complete Peerage XII/2:318, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Henry married Elizabeth De ST. MARY 1146 before 1226 in 2ND Wife.1146 Elizabeth was born about 1198 in St. Mary, Yorkshire, England and died before December 1246 1146.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548676       i.  Richard Le WALEYS Of Burghwallis, Sir (born before 1225 in Burgh Wallis, Doncaster, West Riding Yorkshire, England - died before 17 September 1272)

Henry next married Daughter Of Walter De FERLINGTON 1146 between 1197 and 1208 in 1st Wife.1146 Daughter was born about 1184 in Yorkshire, England.

Henry next married Denise 1146 after 1246 in 3rd Wife.1146 Denise was born about 1190 in England and died after 21 November 1251 1146.


2011097353. Elizabeth De ST. MARY,399,415,1146 daughter of Jordan De ST. MARY and Alice HAGET, was born about 1198 in St. Mary, Yorkshire, England and died before December 1246 1146.

General Notes:
He [Henry le Waleys] married, 2ndly, before 1226, Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of Jordan DE ST. MARY, by Alice, daughter and eventually heir of William DE FRISTON. She died before the end of 1246. [Complete Peerage XII/2:318, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Elizabeth married Henry II Le WALEYS Of Burghwallis, Sir 1146 before 1226 in 2ND Wife.1146 Henry was born about 1185 in Burgh Wallis, Doncaster, West Riding Yorkshire, England and died after April 1248 1146.

2011097354. Thomas FITZ WILLIAM,399,662 son of William FITZWILLIAM Of Sprotborough, Sir Knight and Ela Adela De WARENNE, was born about 1185 of Sprotborough, Yorkshire, England and died after 1266 of Elmley, Yorkshire, England.

Thomas married Agnes BERTRAM. Agnes was born about 1197 of Mitford, Northumberland, England 662 and died after 20 August 1253.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Sir William FITZ THOMAS was born about 1208 in Emley, Yorkshire, England and died before 1294 of Sprotborough, England. Another name for William was William Fitz William.

               ii.  Roger FITZ WILLIAM was born about 1210 in Emley, Yorkshire, England.

1005548677     iii.  Albreda FITZ WILLIAM (born about 1212 in Emley, Yorkshire, England)

               iv.  Dionise FITZ WILLIAM was born about 1214 in Royton, Leicestershire, England and died after 1242. Another name for Dionise was Denise.


2011097355. Agnes BERTRAM,399 daughter of Sir Roger II BERTRAM Baron Of Mitford and Agnes De BERTRAM, was born about 1197 of Mitford, Northumberland, England 662 and died after 20 August 1253.

Agnes married Thomas FITZ WILLIAM.662 Thomas was born about 1185 of Sprotborough, Yorkshire, England and died after 1266 of Elmley, Yorkshire, England.


2011097360. Roger William De MOWBRAY Of Kirklington, Sir,415 son of Nele De MOWBRAY Of Thirsk, Sir and Mabel FITZPATRICK, was born about 1180 in Kirklington With Upsland, North Riding Yorkshire, England and died before 1234.

Roger married Osanna De TANTON. Osanna was born about 1182 in England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548680       i.  Walter De MOWBRAY Of Kirklington (born about 1205 in Kirklington With Upsland, North Riding Yorkshire, England - died in 1252)


2011097361. Osanna De TANTON 415 was born about 1182 in England.

Osanna married Roger William De MOWBRAY Of Kirklington, Sir. Roger was born about 1180 in Kirklington With Upsland, North Riding Yorkshire, England and died before 1234.

2011097376. Henry FITZHERVEY Lord Of Ravensworth,399,415,813,1148 son of Hervey FITZAKARIS Of Ravensworth, Sir Knight and Unknown, was born about 1167 in Ravensworth, Richmond, North Riding Yorkshire, England 1149 and died after 16 May 1212 813,1150.

General Notes:
Henry Fitz-Hervey, who m. Alice, dau. of Randolph Fitz-Walter (ancestor of the Barons of Greystoke), by whom he acquired considerable estates in the north. He d. in 1201, and was s. by his son, Randolph Fitz-Henry. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 207, FitzHugh, Barons FitzHugh]

Of Ravensworth, Cotherstone, Hinton, etc., Lord of Ravensworth, liv. 16 Mar 1212; son of Hervey of Ravensworth; m. Alice, dau. of Randolf Fitz Wauter of Greystoke; father of Agatha of Ravensworth who m. Sir Michael Le Fleming III. [Ancestral Roots, Line 226, p. 188-9]

Henry married Alice Fitzwalter Of GREYSTOKE 813.,1150 Alice was born about 1170 in Greystoke, Cumberland, England.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548688       i.  Randolf FITZHENRY Of Ravensworth, Sir (born about 1190 in Ravensworth, Richmond, North Riding Yorkshire, England - died before January 1242-1243)

               ii.  Agatha FITZHERVEY Of Ravensworth was born about 1198 in Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England.

Henry next married Alice FITZ RANDOLF,814 daughter of Randolf FITZ WALTER and Unknown. Alice was born about 1165 of Greystoke, England.1149

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Agatha FITZ HERVEY was born about 1200 of Ravensworth, England 1151 and died of Aldingham, England.


2011097377. Alice Fitzwalter Of GREYSTOKE,415,813,1150 daughter of Randolf Fitzwalter Lord Of GREYSTOKE and Unknown, was born about 1170 in Greystoke, Cumberland, England.

Alice married Henry FITZHERVEY Lord Of Ravensworth 813.,1148 Henry was born about 1167 in Ravensworth, Richmond, North Riding Yorkshire, England 1149 and died after 16 May 1212 813,1150.


2011097378. Adam De STAVELEY Lord Of Staveley,399,415,813,814,817,1152 son of Thomas FITZSWAIN and Unknown, was born about 1170 in Staveley, Yorkshire, England and died about 1218 in Dent, Sedbergh, West Riding Yorkshire, England about age 48. Another name for Adam was Adam De STAVELE & Dent, Sir.

Adam married Alice De PERCY Heiress Of Barwick-On-Tees 813,814,815.,817 Alice was born about 1172 in Barwick, Stockton On Tees, Durham, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548689       i.  Alice De STAVELEY Heir (born about 1198 in Barwick, Stockton On Tees, Durham, England - died before 11 November 1253 of Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England)


2011097379. Alice De PERCY Heiress Of Barwick-On-Tees,399,415,813,814,815,817 daughter of William De PERCY Lord Of Kildale and Agnes De FLAMVILLE, was born about 1172 in Barwick, Stockton On Tees, Durham, England.

Alice married Adam De STAVELEY Lord Of Staveley 813,814,817.,1152 Adam was born about 1170 in Staveley, Yorkshire, England and died about 1218 in Dent, Sedbergh, West Riding Yorkshire, England about age 48. Another name for Adam was Adam De STAVELE & Dent, Sir.

2011097392. John I De BULMER,415 son of Stephen De BULMER Sheriff Of Northumberland and Cecily De MUSCHAMP, was born about 1160 in Bulmer, North Riding Yorkshire, England and died after 1205.

John married.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548696       i.  John II De BULMER (born about 1190 in Bulmer, North Riding Yorkshire, England - died about 1256)


2011097394. Ralph FITZWILLIAM,415 son of William FITZRALPH and Emma De TEISA, was born about 1170 in Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England and died from after 9 February 1226 to 1227.

Ralph married Joanna. Joanna was born about 1175 in Yorkshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548697       i.  Alice FITZRALPH (born about 1195 in Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England - died before July 1268)


2011097395. Joanna 415 was born about 1175 in Yorkshire, England.

Joanna married Ralph FITZWILLIAM. Ralph was born about 1170 in Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England and died from after 9 February 1226 to 1227.

2011097400. Hugh II De MORWICK Sir,399,415 son of Ernulf De MORWICK Sir and Unknown, was born in 1150 in Morwick, Warkworth, Northumberland, England and died in 1187 in West Chevington, Morpeth, Northumberland, England at age 37.

Hugh married Aline BERTRAM 662 in 1181 in Morwick, Walkworth, Northumberland, England. Aline was born in 1154 in Bothal Demesne, Morpeth, Northumberland, England and died after 1229.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548700       i.  Sir Hugh III De MORWICK Baron Chevington (born about 1184 in Morwick, Warkworth, Northumberland, England - died before 23 November 1237 in West Chevington, Morpeth, Northumberland, England)


2011097401. Aline BERTRAM,399,415,662 daughter of Richard I BERTRAM Of Bothal and Menebell GISULPH Heiress Of Bothal, was born in 1154 in Bothal Demesne, Morpeth, Northumberland, England and died after 1229.

Aline married Hugh II De MORWICK Sir in 1181 in Morwick, Walkworth, Northumberland, England. Hugh was born in 1150 in Morwick, Warkworth, Northumberland, England and died in 1187 in West Chevington, Morpeth, Northumberland, England at age 37.


2011097402. Richard De UMFREVILLE Baron Of Prudhoe,399,415,662,1153,1154,1155,1156 son of Odinel II De UMFREVILLE Lord Of Prudhoe and Alice De LUCY, was born about 1163 in Redesdale, Northumberland, England 1157 and died on 11 October 1226 in Prudhoe Castle, Northumberland, England 1158 about age 63.

General Notes:
In 1218 Richard de Umfraville of Prudhoe complained to King John that Philip of Ulcotes was building a castle at Nafferton without licence to the damage of Prudhoe. It seems Philip kept on building, but in 1221 the King directed the sheriff to dismantle the castle. [Medieval Castles, Towers, Peles and Bastles of Northumberland, p. 84]

Odinel died in 1182 and his son, Richard d'Umfraville, joined the northern knights against King John and had his castle and lands forfeited. They were restored in 1217. Richard clearly had strong views on his importance and complained in 1221 that the building of Nafferton Castle, less than 3 miles away, was to the detriment of his own castle of Prudhoe. Nafferton was unlicensed by the Crown, and the sheriff was authorised to destroy it. As part of the royal policy for reducing the number and strength of baronial castles, Richard himself was ordered to destroy his castle of Harbottle, high up in the Coquet valley. Here he argued successfully: "that the castle was usefully planted on the Marches of Scotland towards the Great waste" (Cheviot Hills).

In the 13th century a barbican was added on the south side of Prudhoe, which led to a drawbridge across the moat, and a second barbican led from that to the gatehouse. The gatehouse was given a vaulted basement and a chapel on the first floor. This chapel is noted for its oriel window over the gateway, said to be the earliest oriel window in any castle in northern England. [Castles of Britain and Ireland, p. 172-3]

Richard married Sybil De TORRINGTON 662 about 1193 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England. Sybil was born about 1177 of Great Torrington, Devonshire, England and died of Bywell, Northumberland, England.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Gilbert De UMFREVILLE Lord Of Redesdale, Baron Prudhoe was born about 1195 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England, died from before 13 March 1244 to 1245 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England 1153, and was buried in Hexham Priory, Northumberland, England.

               ii.  Margery De UMFREVILLE was born about 1203 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England and died from before February 1291 to 1292.

1005548701     iii.  Sybil De UMFREVILLE (born in 1203 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England - died after 1242 in England)

Richard next married Annabel De BALIOL in 1193 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England.820 Annabel was born about 1167 in Bywell, Northumberland, England 820 and died on 31 March.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Robert De UMFREVILLE was born about 1197 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England and died about 1257 in Chollerton, Northumberland, England 820 about age 60.

               ii.  Odinel De UMFREVILLE was born about 1199 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England.820

              iii.  William De UMFREVILLE Parson Of Ovingham was born about 1201 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England 820 and died in Ovingham, Northumberland, England.

               iv.  Margery De UMFREVILLE was born about 1205 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England 820 and died from before February 1291 to 1292 in Barrasford, Northumberland, Emgland.

                v.  Richard De UMFREVILLE was born about 1207 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England.820


2011097403. Sybil De TORRINGTON,399,415,662 daughter of Sir William III De TORRINGTON Baron De Torrington and Unknown, was born about 1177 of Great Torrington, Devonshire, England and died of Bywell, Northumberland, England.

Sybil married Richard De UMFREVILLE Baron Of Prudhoe 662,1153,1154,1155,1156 about 1193 in Castle Prudhoe, Northumberland, England. Richard was born about 1163 in Redesdale, Northumberland, England 1157 and died on 11 October 1226 in Prudhoe Castle, Northumberland, England 1158 about age 63.

2011097404. Richard De HEYFORD,399,415 son of Roger De HEYFORD and Unknown, was born about 1170 in Heyford, Northumberland, England.

Richard married.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548702       i.  Roger De HEYFORD (born about 1200 in Heyford, Northumberland, England)


2011097408. Randulf De STAPLETON 399 was born about 1110 in Stapleton, Yorkshire, England.

Randulf married Agnes about 1145. Agnes was born about 1105 in Stapleton, Yorkshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548704       i.  Geoffrey Galfridus STAPLETON (born about 1148 in Stapleton-On-Tees, Yorkshire, England - died before 1204)


2011097409. Agnes 399 was born about 1105 in Stapleton, Yorkshire, England.

Agnes married Randulf De STAPLETON about 1145. Randulf was born about 1110 in Stapleton, Yorkshire, England.

2011097424. Piers (Pierre) De BRAINE Earl Of Richmond,415,666,670,1159,1160 son of Robert II Count De Braine & DREUX and Yolande De COUCY, was born between 1187 and 1190 in Braine, Aisne, Picardy, France,1160 died about 28 May 1250 at Sea, Returning (Wounded) From Crusade 1160,1161 about age 62, and was buried in Abbey Of St. Yved-DE-Braine, Laon, France. Another name for Piers was Pierre I Mauclerc Duke Of BRITTANY.

General Notes:
Richmond, previous creations: The next holder of the Earldom of Richmond to be recognized as such was the husband of his niece of the half-blood, Piers de Braine. The latter had married Alice, daughter of Constance by her third husband Guy de Thouars, and had seisin of the Richmond property from January 1218/9, thus becoming its fully fledged Earl, the 1st such of this creation. Not that he enjoyed uninterrupted tenure. He was deprived of his lands (hence the Eardom too according to the system then in force) in 1224, from 1227 to 1229 and again in early 1235. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2402]

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EARLDOM OF RICHMOND (V, 1)

PIERS DE BRAINE, styled Mauclerc, 2nd son of Robert II, COUNT OF DREUX AND BRAINE, by his 2nd wife, Yolande, 1st daughter of Ralph DE COUCI, LORD OF COUCI, was born circa 1187-90. He was knighted by the King of France 17 May 1209. By his marriage with Alice of Brittany he became DUKE OF BRITTANY in February 1212/3. In 1213 he served in Flanders under the King of France, and helped the French to defend Touraine against King John, whom he defeated in 1214 before Nantes. On 12 August 1215 John offered him the honor of Richmond, if he would come to his aid in England; but Piers took the other side and helped Prince Louis. However, on 16 January 1218/9 Henry III ordered seisin of the lands of the Earldom of Richmond to be given to Piers, whereupon he became EARL OF RICHMOND. In 1219 he joined in the Crusade against the Albigenses. On 3 March 1222/3 he defeated Amaury de Craon at Châteaubriant. In November 1224 he was deprived for a few months of the honor of Richmond. He returned to the Crusade against the Albigenses in 1226. On 19 October 1226 Henry III undertook to marry his daughter Yolande, but the project broke down; in March 1226/7 Piers concluded the Treaty of Vendôme with Louis IX, and in April 1227 Henry ordered his lands to be seized. In October 1229 he did homage to Henry III, and he was restored to the Earldom of Richmond. In June 1230 the French barons declared his forfeiture, and on 23 September he concIuded a new treaty with Henry III. With the Earl of Chester he negotiated a 3 years' truce between the rival Kings on 4 July 1231; but after this expired he was compelled to submit to Louis, and in January 1234/5 his English lands were confiscated. He was included in the 5 years' Anglo-French truce of 3 February 1235/6. In November 1237 he surrendered the Duchy to his son, after which he styled himself Piers de Braine. In 1239 he led a Crusade to Palestine, and in 1249 he went on Crusade with St. Louis. He was wounded in the face at the battle of Mansourah, and surrendered with the King at Faraskur, 6 April 1250. On being released he sailed from Damietta, 7 May 1250, but died at sea. During his rule in Brittany he was constantly engaged in quarrels with the bishops, and more than once he was excommunicated. He was a bencfactor to many monastic foundations and, to the Templars in Brittany.

He married, 1stly, in February 1212/3, Alice, elder daughter and coheir of Guy DE THOUARS, sometime DUKE OF BRITTANY, by Constance, DUCHESS OF BRITTANY. She died 21 October 1221, and was buried in the convent of the Cordeliers at Nantes. He married, 2ndly, about January 1234/5, Margaret, LADY OF MONTAIGU and LA GARNACHE, widow of Hugh DE THOUARS, VICOMTE OF THOUARS, next brother of Guy abovenamed, who died s.p., 1230 (before May), and daughter and heir of Maurice DE MONTAIGU, LORD OF MONTAIGU, by Chaboce (parentage unknown). She died about the end of 1241. Charter, as an act of last will, dated 27 November 1241. Piers married, 3rdly, Joan, LADY OF CRIEL, younger daughter of Ralph D'EXOUDUN, COUNT OF EU, by Alice, COUNTESS OF EU, daughter and heir of Henry, COUNT 0F EU. Piers died probably circa 28 May 1250, at sea, and was buried in the abbey of St. Yved-de-Braine, near Laon. Will made circa August 1248. His widow died 3 October 1252, in the Hospital of Brackley, Northants, and was buried in the abbey of Foucarmont. [Complete Peerage X:800-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 22 June 1250. 668

Piers married Alix of THOUARS in FEB 1212/13 1162.,1163 Alix was born in 1201 and died on 21 October 1221 at age 20.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, MAR 1212/13. 668

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Yolande De DREUX was born in 1218 in Braine, Aisne, Picardy, France 1164 and died on 10 October 1272 1164 at age 54.

1005548712      ii.  John I Duke of BRITTANY (born in 1217 of Rennes, France - died on 8 October 1286)


2011097425. Alix of THOUARS, daughter of Gui de THOUARS Count of Brittany and Constance De BRITTANY Countess Of Richmond, was born in 1201 and died on 21 October 1221 at age 20.

General Notes:
Alix of Thouars (1201- October 21, 1221) was the nominal Duchess of Brittany between 1206 to her death. She was the daughter of Constance, Duchess of Brittany and Guy of Thouars. In 1206, king Philip II of France withdrew Brittany from her father and became himself the regent of the duchy in Alix’s name. In 1213, the king organizes her marriage to his cousin Peter of Dreux, who becomes the regent. Alix died in childbirth, without having ever much control over her own inheritance. She was succeeded in the duchy by her son John I, but Peter remained the de facto ruler of Brittany until 1237. 1165

Alix married Piers (Pierre) De BRAINE Earl Of Richmond 666,1159,1160 in FEB 1212/13 1162.,1163 Piers was born between 1187 and 1190 in Braine, Aisne, Picardy, France,1160 died about 28 May 1250 at Sea, Returning (Wounded) From Crusade 1160,1161 about age 62, and was buried in Abbey Of St. Yved-DE-Braine, Laon, France. Another name for Piers was Pierre I Mauclerc Duke Of BRITTANY.


2011097428. John I "Lackland" PLANTAGENET King Of England,399,415,417,505,642,670,774,775,776,777,779,825,827,835,855,1057,1062,1065,1108,1166,1167,1168,1169,1170,1171,1172,1173,1174,1175,1176,1177,1178,1179,1180,1181,1182 son of Henry II "Curt Mantel" PLANTAGENET King Of England and Eleanor Of AQUITAINE Duchess Of Aquitaine, was born on 24 December 1166 in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England,389,390,835,1112 was christened in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England, died on 19 October 1216 in Newark Castle, Nottinghamshire, England 389,390,835,1112 at age 49, and was buried in 1216 in Cathedral, Worcester, Worcestershire, England.389,390 The cause of his death was dysentery. Another name for John was 3rd Earl Of GLOUCESTER John King Of England.1113

General Notes: John (French: Jean) (December 24, 1166–October 18, 1216) reigned as King of England from 1199 to 1216. He succeeded to the throne as the younger brother of King Richard I (known as "Richard the Lionheart"). John acquired the nicknames of "Lackland" (in French, sans terre) and "Soft-sword".

John's reign has been traditionally characterized as one of the most disastrous in English history: it began with defeats—he lost Normandy to Philippe Auguste of France in his first five years on the throne—and ended with England torn by civil war and himself on the verge of being forced out of power. In 1213, he made England a papal fief to resolve a conflict with the Church, and his rebellious barons forced him to sign Magna Carta in 1215, the act for which he is best remembered. Some have argued, however, that John ruled no better or worse than his immediate predecessor or his successor.

Born at Oxford, John was the fifth son of King Henry II of England and Eleanor of Aquitaine, and was always his father's favourite son, though as the youngest, he could expect no inheritance (hence his nickname, "Lackland"). In 1189 he married Avisa, daughter and heiress of the Earl of Gloucester. (She is given several alternative names by history, including Isabella, Hawise, Joan, and Eleanor.) They had no children, and John had their marriage annulled on the grounds of consanguinity, some time before or shortly after his accession to the throne, which took place on April 6, 1199, and she was never acknowledged as queen. (She then married Geoffrey de Mandeville as her second husband and Hubert de Burgh as her third).

Before his accession, John had already acquired a reputation for treachery, having conspired sometimes with and sometimes against his elder brothers, Henry and Richard . In 1184, John and Richard both claimed that they were the rightful heir to the Aquitaine, one of many unfriendly encounters between the two. In 1185 though, John became the ruler of Ireland, whose people grew to despise him, causing John to leave after only eight months.

During Richard's absence on crusade from 1190 to 1194, John attempted to overthrow his designated regent, despite having been forbidden by his brother to leave France. This was one reason the older legend of Hereward the Wake was updated to King Richard's reign, with "Prince John" as the ultimate villain and with the hero now called "Robin Hood". However, on his return to England in 1194, Richard forgave John and named him as his heir.

On Richard's death, John did not gain immediate universal recognition as king. Some regarded his young nephew, Arthur of Brittany, the posthumous son of John's brother Geoffrey, as the rightful heir. He and John contested for the throne, but John captured Arthur and his sister Eleanor around 1203. Arthur died, allegedly murdered, about this time and Eleanor remained a prisoner the rest of her life (which ended in 1241); through deeds such as these, John acquired a reputation for ruthlessness.

In the meantime, John had remarried, on August 24, 1200, Isabella of Angoulême, who was twenty years his junior. She was the daughter of Aimer Taillfer, Count of Angouleme. Isabella eventually produced five children, including two sons (Henry and Richard), Joan of England, Isabel of England and Eleanor of England. Around this time John also married off his illegitimate daughter, Joan, to the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great, building an alliance in the hope of keeping peace within England and Wales so that he could recover his French lands. The French king had declared most of these forfeit in 1204, leaving John only Gascony in the southwest.

John had other illegitimate children. By a mistress, daughter of Hamelin Plantagenet and Isabel de Warenne, John had Richard Fitz Roy (or De Warrenne), Baron of Chilham. By another mistress, Hawise, John had Oliver Fitz Roy. By unknown mistress (or mistresses) John had other illegitimate children: Geoffrey Fitz Roy; John Fitz Roy; Henry Fitz Roy; Osbert Gifford; Eudes (or Ives) Fitz Roy; Bartholomew Fitz Roy and Maud Fitz Roy.

As far as the administration of his kingdom went, John functioned as quite a just and enlightened ruler, but he won the disapproval of the barons by taxing them. The tax known as scutage, a penalty for those who failed to supply military resources, became particularly unpopular. He also fell out with the Pope by rejecting Stephen Langton, the official candidate for the position of Archbishop of Canterbury. This resulted in John's excommunication. He had much the same kind of dispute with the church as his father had had before him. Unfortunately, his excommunication encouraged his political rivals to rise against him. Having successfully put down the Welsh Uprising of 1211, he turned his attentions back to his overseas interests and regained the approval of Pope Innocent III.

The European wars culminated in defeat at the Battle of Bouvines, which forced the king to accept an unfavourable peace with France. This finally turned the barons against him, and he met their leaders at Runnymede, near London, on June 15, to sign the Great Charter called, in Latin, Magna Carta. Because he had signed under duress, however, John felt entitled to break his word as soon as hostilities had ceased, provoking the First Barons' War.

In the following year, John, retreating from an invasion by Prince Louis of France (whom the majority of the English barons had invited to replace John on the throne), crossed the marshy area known as The Wash in East Anglia and lost his most valuable treasures, including the Crown Jewels as a result of the unexpected incoming tide. This dealt him a terrible blow, which affected his health and state of mind, and he succumbed to dysentery, dying on October 18 or October 19, 1216, at Newark in Lincolnshire*. Numerous, if fictitious, accounts circulated soon after his death that he had been killed by poisoned ale or poisoned plums. He lies buried in Worcester Cathedral in the city of Worcester. His nine-year-old son succeeded him and became King Henry III of England, and although Louis continued to claim the English throne, the barons switched their allegiance to the new king, forcing Louis to give up his claim and sign the Treaty of Lambeth in 1217.

*Footnote: Newark now lies within the County of Nottinghamshire, close to its long boundary with Lincolnshire.

For a long time, school children have learned that King John had to approve Magna Carta by attaching his seal to it because he could not sign it, lacking the ability to read or write. This textbook inaccuracy resembled that of textbooks which claimed that Christopher Columbus wanted to prove the earth was round. Whether the original authors of these errors knew better and oversimplified because they wrote for children, or whether they had been misinformed themselves, as a result generations of adults remembered mainly two things about "wicked King John", both of them wrong. (The other "fact" was that, if Robin Hood had not stepped in, Prince John would have embezzled the money raised to ransom King Richard. The fact is that Prince John did embezzle the ransom money, by creating forged seals.)

In fact, King John did sign the draft of the Charter that the negotiating parties hammered out in the tent on Charter Island at Runnymede on 15–18 June 1215, but it took the clerks and scribes working in the royal offices some time after everyone went home to prepare the final copies, which they then sealed and delivered to the appropriate officials. In those days, legal documents were sealed to make them official, not signed. (Even today, many legal documents are not considered effective without the seal of a notary public or corporate official, and printed legal forms such as deeds say "L.S." next to the signature lines. That stands for the Latin locus signilli ("place of the seal"), signifying that the signer has used a signature as a substitute for a seal.) When William the Conqueror (and his wife) signed the Accord of Winchester in 1072, for example, they and all the bishops signed with crosses, as illiterate people would later do, but they did so in accordance with current legal practice, not because the bishops could not write their own names.

Henry II had at first intended that his son Prince John receive an education to go into the Church, which would have meant Henry did not have to give him any land, but in 1171 Henry began negotiations to betroth John to the daughter of Count Humbert III of Maurienne-Savoy (who had no son yet and so wanted a son-in-law), and after that, talk of making John a churchman ceased. John's parents had both received a good education—Henry II spoke some half dozen languages, and Eleanor of Aquitaine had attended lectures at what would soon become the University of Paris—in addition to what they had learned of law and government, religion, and literature. John himself had received one of the best educations of any king of England. Some of the books the records show he read included: De Sacramentis Christianae Fidei by Hugh St. Victor, Sentences by Peter Lombard, The Treatise of Origen, and a history of England—potentially Wace's Roman de Brut, based on Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae.

According to records of payment made to King John's bath attendant, William Aquarius, the king bathed on average about once every three weeks, which cost a considerable sum of 5d to 6d each, suggesting an elaborate and ceremonial affair. Although this may seem barbaric by modern standards, it was civilized compared to monks who were expected to bath three times a year, with the right not to bathe at all if they so chose. By contrast King John dressed very well in coats made of fur from sable and ermine and other exotic furs such as polar bear. 1183

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 1199-1216.

• Bullet: SIGNED THE MAGNA CHARTA, 1215.

John married Agatha De FERRERS,662,1184,1185,1186 daughter of William De FERRERS 3rd Earl Of Derby and Sybil De BRAOSE, not Married in No Marriage. Agatha was born about 1175 in Tutbury, Burton-On-Trent, Staffordshire, England.

John next married Clemence Le BOTELER 1187,1188,1189 before 1189 in No Marriage 389,390,1095.,1187 Clemence was born about 1175 and died after 23 October 1231 985. Another name for Clemence was Clemence Le BUTILLER.

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The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Joan PLANTAGENET was born on 22 July 1190 in Newark Castle, Nottinghamshire, England, died from 2 February 1236 to 1237 in Court Of Aberconway, North Wales 1190,1191 at age 45, and was buried in Friars Minors, Llanfaes, Anglesey, Wales.1190

John next married Isabella Taillefer De ANGOULEME Queen Of England 835,1171,1192,1193,1194,1195,1196,1197,1198 on 24 August 1200 in Bordeaux, Gironde, France 835,838.,1112 Isabella was born in 1188 in Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France,835,1199,1200,1201 died on 31 May 1246 in Fontevrault Abbey, Maine-Et-Loire, Pays-DE-La-Loire, France 835,1199 at age 58, and was buried in Fountevrault Abbey, Anjou, Isere, France. Another name for Isabella was Isabella TAILLEFER De \Angouleme\.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548714       i.  Henry III PLANTAGENET King Of England (born on 1 October 1207 in Winchester Castle, Winchester, Hampshire, England - died on 16 November 1272 in Westminster Palace, London, Middlesex, England)

               ii.  Richard PLANTAGENET 1st Earl Of Cornwall, Hre was born from 5 January 1208 to 1209 in Winchester Castle, Hampshire, England,1202 died on 2 April 1272 in Berkhampstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England 1202 at age 64, and was buried on 13 April 1272 in Hailes Abbey, Gloucestershire, England. Another name for Richard was 02nd\1St Earl Of CORNWALL Richard Plantagenet.

              iii.  Joan Johanna PLANTAGENET Princess Of England was born on 22 July 1210 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England, died from 4 March 1236 to 1237 in Havering-Atte-Bower, Essex, England at age 25, and was buried in Tarrant Keynstan, Dorsetshire, England.

               iv.  Eleanor PLANTAGENET Princess Of England was born in 1215 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England,1203,1204 died on 13 April 1275 in Montargis Abbey, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France 1203,1204 at age 60, and was buried in Montargis, Loiret, France.

                v.  Isabel PLANTAGENET Empress Germany was born in 1214 in Of, Winchester, Hampshire, England, died on 1 December 1241 in , Foggia, Apulia, Italy at age 27, and was buried in Andria, Bari, Apulia, Italy.

John next married Suzanne Plantagenet De WARENNE,1205 daughter of Hamelin PLANTAGENET 5th Earl Of Surrey and Isabel De WARENNE 4th Countess Of Surrey, not Married in No Marriage. Suzanne was born about 1168 in Surrey, England.662,1200,1206,1207

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Isabel La BLANCHE was born from about 1192 to 1200 of England.

               ii.  Richard FITZROY Baron Of Chilham was born about 1186 in Winchester, Hampshire, England 1208 and died after 1232 in Chilham Castle, Kent, England 1209. Another name for Richard was Richard FITZJOHN Baron Of Chilham.

              iii.  John FITZROY was born about 1192 of Lincolnshire, England and died after 1201.

               iv.  Henry FITZROY was born about 1192 of Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England.

                v.  Geofrey FITZROY was born about 1192 and died in 1205 in , Rochell, Charentemaritime, France about age 13.

               vi.  Eudo FITZROY was born about 1192 in Ofwales, Essex, Essex, England and died before 1242.

              vii.  Ivo FITZROY was born about 1194 of Essex, England.

John next married Isabel Mortain FITZROBERT 3rd Countess Of Gloucester,662,785,1210,1211,1212,1213,1214,1215 daughter of William FITZROBERT 2nd Earl Of Gloucester and Hawise De BEAUMONT, on 29 August 1189 in 1st Husband 1St Wife - Divorced 1199 389,390,1095.,1210 Isabel was born about 1173 in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England, died on 14 October 1217 in Kent County, England 1210,1212 about age 44, and was buried in Canterbury Cathedral, Canterbury, Kent, England. Other names for Isabel were Isabel Mortain, and 3rd Countess Of GLOUCESTER Isabel Fitzrobert.

John next married Constance BRETAGNE Countess Of Brittany 780 not Married. Constance was born on 12 June 1166 of Bretagne, Indre, France,785,1216,1217,1218,1219 died on 31 August 1201 in Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, France at age 35, and was buried on 5 September 1201 in Abbey DE Villeneuve, Pas-DE-Calais, France.

Noted events in her life were:

• Lived: Penthievre, Cotes-du-Nord, France.

John next married Clemence Clementia DAUNTSEY. Clemence was born about 1165.1220

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Joan PLANTAGENET Princess Of Wales was born on 22 July 1190 in Newark Castle, Nottinghamshire, England, died on 2 February 1237 in Court Of Aberconway, North Wales at age 46, and was buried on 30 March 1237 in Llanfaes Priory, Anglesey, Wales.1221

John next married Maud Matilda Fitzharding BERKELEY 662,1222 in Unmd. Maud was born about 1160 in Brimsfield, Gloucester, England.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Osbert GIFFORD was born about 1188 in Brimsfield, Gloucestershire, England and died about 17 October 1237 of Winterbourne, Htn, Oxfordshire, England about age 49.

John next married Hawisa Hadwiga Of Gloucester FITZWARIN in Unmd. Hawisa was born about 1167 of Gloucester, , , England.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  OLIVER was born about 1187 in Ofwales, Westminster, Middlesex, England, died in October 1219 in , Damietta, On The Nile, Egypt about age 32, and was buried in Westminsterabbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.

John next married CONCUBINE in Unmd. CONCUBINE was born about 1168 in Of, Kenilworth, Essex, England.

John next married PLANTAGENET in Kings Manor Hous, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England.

John next married Matilda GIFFORD in Not Married. Matilda was born about 1170 in Of, , , England.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Osbert GIFFORD was born about 1205 in Of, , Oxfordshire, England.

John next married CONCUBINE. CONCUBINE was born about 1168 in Of, , Lincolnshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

                i.  Richard De CHILHAM was born about 1186 in Of, Chilham Castle, Kent, England and died in 1217 about age 31.




2011097429. Isabella Taillefer De ANGOULEME Queen Of England,399,415,670,835,1171,1192,1193,1194,1195,1196,1197,1198 daughter of Aymer (Adhemar) Taillefer De ANGOULEME Count Angouleme and Alice De COURTENAY Countess Of Angouleme, was born in 1188 in Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France,835,1199,1200,1201 died on 31 May 1246 in Fontevrault Abbey, Maine-Et-Loire, Pays-DE-La-Loire, France 835,1199 at age 58, and was buried in Fountevrault Abbey, Anjou, Isere, France. Another name for Isabella was Isabella TAILLEFER De \Angouleme\.

General Notes:
This ex-queen, obliged to entertain the French court in one of her second husband's (Count de la Marche) castles, took offence at not being asked to sit down beside her unwelcome guests, and, when they had gone, showed her spite by destroying all the furniture they had used, as if polluted by their sojourn. The husband needed little stirring up to make him renounce the homage he owed to that young prince (Alphonse of Poitiers), whose heritage was climed by the count's stepson, Richard of Cornwall. [Leaders & Landmarks, Vol. II, p. 76]

Only child of Aymer, Count d'Angouleme (and by her mother, granddaughter of Louis VI of France), was early betrothed to Hugh de Lusignan, surnamed le Brun, 10th Count de la Marche and Poitou. In the year 1200, King John, visiting the castle of the Count d'Eu, Lusignan's uncle, met Isabella, who resided there
previous to her marriage; and during the absence of Lusignan in the Holy Land, with the consent of her parents, but without that of the Count d'Eu or of her own, King John carried her off and made her his queen. They were married at Bordeaux, Aug 24, 1200. Isabella was then 15. Henry, her son, was born in 1206/7; the Princess Johanna in 1210. After a long period of war and discord, Lusignan made peace with King John, on condition that he should have the Princess Johanna, Isabella's eldest daughter, for his wife; and she was forthwith sent to his court to be educated, Oct 20, 1214 (age 4); but in 1216 King John died. Isabella returned to her native city of Augouleme and married her first betrothed. After some delay, Henry III recovered his sister Johanna, who was married to Alexander II at York in 1221, when she was 11. Isabella died in 1229. [The Bruces and the Cumyns, p. 511]

2nd wife of King John of England. [Peds. of Charlemagne's Desc., Vol. 1, p. 184]

Maternal grandfather is said to be Peter de Courtenay. Dau. of Aymer de Valence and alice de Courtenay. [Ped. of Charlemagne's Desc., Vol. I, p. 184]

2nd wife of John "Lackland", King of England. [Royal Descents, p. 251]

Dau. of Aylmer de Valence and Alice de Courtenay; m. John, King of England; m. Hugh X de Lusignan and was mother of Alice de Lusignan, Hugh XI de Lusignan, and William de Valence. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD#100]

King John imprisoned his queen Isabella in Corfe Castle in 1208. [The Plantagenet Encyclopedia, p. 55]

After King John's death, his widow Isabella was allowed to live at Berkhamsted Castle, Hertfordshire and some further works were done on the castle at this time. [Castles of Britain and Ireland, p. 126]

Noted events in her life were:

• Lived: Berkhamsted Castle, Hertfordshire, England. 1223

Isabella married Hugh X Le Brun De LUSIGNAN Count Angouleme\La Marche,662,855,1091,1195,1196,1214,1225,1226,1227,1228,1229 son of Hugh IX De LUSIGNAN Comte De La Marche and Mathilde (Mahaut) Taillefer De ANGOULEME, on 10 May 1220 in England.1224 Hugh was born about 1186 in Lusignan, Vienne, Poitou, France and died about 6 June 1246 in Surrey, England 1224 about age 60. Other names for Hugh were Hugh Le BRUN Count De La Marche, and Hugh Le Brun Count De LA MARCHE.1195

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  Hugh XI De LUSIGNAN Count Of Poitou And Angouleme was born in 1221 in Lusignan, Vienne, Angouleme, France 1230 and died in 1250 in Battle Of Mansurah, Damietta, Egypt 1230 at age 29. The cause of his death was war injuries.

               ii.  Agatha Agnes LUSIGNAN was born about 1220 in Lusignan, Vienne, France.

              iii.  Lady Alice De LUSIGNAN was born about 1224 in Lusignan, Vienne, Poitou, France 971 and died from 9 February 1255 to 1256 in Warren, Sussex, Sussex, England 969,1195 about age 31.

               iv.  William De Valence LUSIGNAN Earl Of Pembroke was born after 1225 in Cistercian Abbey, Valence, Charente, France,1231 was christened of Pembroke, , Dyfed, Wales, died before 18 May 1296 in Slain In Battle In France 1231, and was buried in Westminster Abbey, London, Middlesex, England. Another name for William was Earl Of Pembroke & Earl Of Wexford.

                v.  Henry De LUSIGNAN Count La Manche was born after 1221 of Lusignan, Vienne, France.

               vi.  Guy De LUSIGNAN Lord Cognac was born after 1221 of Lusignan, Vienne, France and died in 1281 in Battle Of Leurs, France. The cause of his death was war injuries.

              vii.  Geoffrey De LUSIGNAN Sire De Jarmac was born about 1224 in Lusignan, Vienne, France and died about 1274 about age 50.

             viii.  Marguerite De LUSIGNAN was born in 1228 of Lusignan, Vienne, France and died about 1287 about age 59.

               ix.  Aymer De VALENCE Bishop Of Winchester was born about 1229 in Valencia, Lusignan, Vienne, France and died in 1260 about age 31.

                x.  Isabel De LUSIGNAN was born about 1230 in Lusignan, Vienne, France and died in 1299 about age 69.

Isabella next married John I "Lackland" PLANTAGENET King Of England 779,825,827,835,855,1062,1065,1108,1170,1171,1172,1173,1174,1175,1176,1177,1178,1179,1180,1181,1182 on 24 August 1200 in Bordeaux, Gironde, France 835,838.,1112 John was born on 24 December 1166 in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England,389,390,835,1112 was christened in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England, died on 19 October 1216 in Newark Castle, Nottinghamshire, England 389,390,835,1112 at age 49, and was buried in 1216 in Cathedral, Worcester, Worcestershire, England.389,390 The cause of his death was dysentery. Another name for John was 3rd Earl Of GLOUCESTER John King Of England.1113


2011097430. Raymond IV BERENGER Count Provence,399,415,670,835,843,1062,1202,1232,1233,1234,1235 son of Alfonso Alfonsez Prince Aragon Count Of PROVENCE and Gersenda De SABRAN Countess Forcalquier, was born in 1198 of Provence, Aix-En-Provence, Bouches-Du-Rhone, France 835,1236 and died on 19 August 1245 in Aix-En-Provence, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 835,1236,1237 at age 47.

General Notes:
Count of Forcalquier

Note: AR line 104 numbers him Raymond IV, while AR line 111 numbers him Raymond V, and Turton numbers him Raymond VII.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 1195. 1237

Raymond married Beatrice, Countess Of SAVOY 1232,1234,1238 on 5 June 1219 in Provence, France.1236 Beatrice, was born about 1200 in Chambery, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France 668 and died in December 1266 in Aragon, Spain 1236 about age 66.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, 1220. 1237

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, 1220. 1237

Children from this marriage were:

1005548715       i.  Eleanor Of PROVENCE Queen Of England (born in 1217 in Provence, Aix-En-Provence, Bouches-Du-Rhone, France - died on 24 June 1291 in Amesbury, Wiltshire, England)

               ii.  Marguerite De PROVENCE Queen Of France was born in 1221 in St Maine B. Forc, Alpes-DE-Haute P, Of Provence, France,1239 died on 21 December 1295 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France 1239 at age 74, and was buried in Saint Denis, Seine-St-Denis, France.

              iii.  Lady Sancha Berenger Of PROVENCE was born about 1225 in Aix En Provence, Provence, France, died on 9 November 1261 in Berkhampstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England about age 36, and was buried in Hailes Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

               iv.  Beatrix De PROVENCE Countess was born in 1234 in Aix-En-Provence, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France,1240 died on 23 September 1267 in Nocera, Calabria, Italy 1240 at age 33, and was buried in Roque-Pymont, France.


2011097431. Beatrice, Countess Of SAVOY,399,415,670,1232,1234,1238 daughter of Thomas (Tomaso) I Count Of SAVOY and Beatrix Marguerite Nicole GENEVA, was born about 1200 in Chambery, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France 668 and died in December 1266 in Aragon, Spain 1236 about age 66.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 1267. 1237

Beatrice, married Raymond IV BERENGER Count Provence 835,843,1062,1202,1232,1233,1234,1235 on 5 June 1219 in Provence, France.1236 Raymond was born in 1198 of Provence, Aix-En-Provence, Bouches-Du-Rhone, France 835,1236 and died on 19 August 1245 in Aix-En-Provence, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 835,1236,1237 at age 47.

Beatrice, next married Carlo I King Of NAPLES in 1267.


2011097472. Geoffrey De SCHYWITH OR SKIPWIC,235,309,399,412,415,1241 son of Patrick De STUTEVILLE Lord Of Skipwith and Beatrix De LANGTON, was born about 1120 of Skipwith, Lincolnshire, England and died after 1199 412. Another name for Geoffrey was Geoffrey De SKIPWIC.

Geoffrey married Margaria De MENETHORPE 412 in 1st Husband.412 Margaria was born about 1165 in Menethorpe, Malton, East Riding Yorkshire, England. Another name for Margaria was Marianna De MENITHORP.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548736       i.  Reginald De SKIPWITH Sir Knight (born about 1187 in Skipwith, Selby, East Riding Yorkshire, England - died before 1252)

               ii.  Ralph De THORPE was born about 1150 of Skipwith, Lincolnshire, England.

              iii.  Gerald De SKIPWITH was born about 1155 of Skipwith, Lincolnshire, England.


2011097473. Margaria De MENETHORPE,235,309,399,412,415 daughter of William MENETHORPE and Unknown, was born about 1165 in Menethorpe, Malton, East Riding Yorkshire, England. Another name for Margaria was Marianna De MENITHORP.

General Notes:
Margaria (married 2nd Adam de Mariscis), daughter and heir of William Menethorpe. [Burke's Peerage]

Margaria married Geoffrey De SCHYWITH OR SKIPWIC 412,1241 in 1st Husband.412 Geoffrey was born about 1120 of Skipwith, Lincolnshire, England and died after 1199 412. Another name for Geoffrey was Geoffrey De SKIPWIC.

Margaria next married Adam De MARISCIS. Adam was born about 1130 in England.




2011097474. Sir John De /Bella Aqua BELLEW 399 was born about 1120 of Carlton, Yorkshire, England.

John married.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548737       i.  De /Bella Aqua BELLEW (born about 1150 of Carlton, Yorkshire, England)


2011097484. Gilbert Le Mareschal FITZ ROBERT Of Winterbourne,399,415,861,1242,1243 son of Robert GIFFARD Of Cheddar and Unknown, was born about 1075 in Somersetshire, England and died before 1130 in Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England 1242. Other names for Gilbert were Gilbert "The Marshall" FITZROBERT, Gilbert GIFFARD Of Winterbourne, and King's Marshal.1244

General Notes:
Gilbert the Marshal, was the first known holder of the office. He with his son John successfully maintained their right under Henry I to the office of Master Marshal in the King's Household, for which they had been impleaded in the King's Court by Robert de Venoiz and William de Hastings (g). The name and parentage of Gilbert's wife are unknown. He d. in or shortly before 1130 (h). [Complete Peerage X:Appendix G:92]

(g) This appears from King John's confirmation, 20 Apr 1200, to William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. Gilbert may have been son or grandson of an otherwise unknown Robert, who in 1086 held Cheddar, Somerset, under Roger de Courseulles. Robert the Marshal, who in 1086 held Lavington, Wilts, in chief, has been suggested as the possible progenitor of the family, but this is unlikely, as in 1166 Lavington was held by Piers de la Mare.

(h) He left at least 2 sons, John abovenamed and William Giffard, who was presented to the church of Cheddar Hole, Somerset, and was admitted by Godfrey, Bishop of Bath (1122-35), which church was given to Bradenstoke Priory by his brother John. Unless there was another brother named William, he was Chancellor to the Empress Maud in 1141 and 1142. Presumably William was called "Giffard" as a nickname -- the chubby cheeked.

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The following is a post to SGM, 8 Jan 2003, by John Ravillious, which introduces the name "Giffard" into the Marshal family (CP thought it was merely a nickname for Gilbert's brother). Perhaps this family is connected to the Giffards of Loungeville, Normandy:

From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Subject: Gilbert Giffard of Winterbourne Monkton: ancestor of William Marshal ?
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2003-01-08 21:16:34 PST

Wednesday, 8 January, 2003

Hello All,

A wise man once said, ' Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.' Well, he probably said it more than once.

Anyway, in looking about for more Despenser detritus, I came across an article from the English Historical Review from 1999 in which the author (N. E. Stacy) put forth, in part, the position that the family of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke derived from one Gilbert Giffard (or Gibard), Domesday tenant of Winterbourne Monkton. I have incorporated the relevant portion of the article below [1].

Is anyone of the list aware of this derivation being accepted, or disproven? If this is correct, the information below impacts the ancestry of the widest range of list members (apologies to JSG: William Marshal is another good candidate for 'Kilroy of medieval English ancestry').

Good luck, and good hunting to all.

John *

NOTES

[1] From English Historical Review, Feb.1999: Henry of Blois and the Lordship of Glastonbury ( N. E. Stacy)

online: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0293/455_114/54050231/print.jhtml


' A major player in the politics of the civil war was the subject of another remarkable omission from the abbey's carta. On the border of John Marshal's manor of Rockley and only six miles from his base at Marlborough lay the Glastonbury manor of Winterbourne Monkton, including a 3 1/2-hide subtenancy over which the abbot's lordship had been recognized in 1086 and was to be again in 1173 and thereafter, but which was absent from the carta of 1166.(2) At the time of Domesday it had been held by Gilbert
Gibard'.(3) He withheld geld from his demesne, which, as a mesne tenant, he was not entitled to do, but as one of the chief officers of the royal household he was anyway exempt. For Gilbert
Gibard' or Giffard was in fact the marshal, father of John I and grandfather of John II, who answered for one fee of Glastonbury Abbey in 1173.(4) No Marshal obligation, however, was recorded in 1166. Bishop Henry's relations with the family can never have been good, since its opposition to Stephen had been patent: John I's brother, William, had become Matilda's chancellor,(5) while John himself had pursued his own interests, which took him often into the Angevin camp but rarely, if ever, into Stephen's.(6) However, the Marshal exclusion from Glastonbury's carta was not based purely on personal antagonism, for the fee they held of Henry as bishop of Winchester was duly recorded in 1166.(7) The Glastonbury problem was probably connected with a dispute between the abbey and another tenant, the earl of Salisbury, over his fee at Mildenhall (Wilts.). This large subtenancy had been granted as a marriage-portion to Earl Patrick's sister, Sybil, on her marriage to John Marshal in the 1140s and thereafter the service owed to the abbot had lapsed.(1) Whether the Marshal instigated the refusal of service from his wife's manor because of a dispute over Winterbourne or withheld service from Winterbourne because of his in-laws' dispute over Mildenhall cannot be known, but the two problems were surely connected. Bishop Henry as usual proved intractable and no settlement could be made in either case while he was alive. It was his successor, Abbot Robert of Winchester (1173-80), who secured Earl William of Salisbury's confirmation of knight service owed from Mildenhall and John Marshal II's acknowledgment of that due from Winterbourne Monkton.(2) By an irony Richard Cotel, the successor and namesake of Bishop Henry's enemy, was to marry the heiress of the rear tenant of the latter fee and so extend the presence within the Glastonbury lordship of a family which the Bishop had been at pains to expel.(3) '

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The earliest notice of this family occurs in the time of Henry I, when Gilbert Mareschall, and John, his son, were impleaded by Robert de Venoix and William de Hastings for the office of Mareschal to the king, but without success. The son, (bearing the same surname, derived from his office), was called John Mareschall. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 357, Marshal, Barons Marshal

Noted events in his life were:

• Lived: Wiltshire, England.

• Lived: Hampshire, England.

Gilbert married Miss De VENUZ 662,861,862.,1245 Miss was born about 1086 in Venoix Near Caen, Calvados, Normandy, France.

Children from this marriage were:

1005548742       i.  John "The Marshal" FITZGILBERT Of Rockley (born before 1109 in Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England - died before 29 September 1165 in Rockley, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England)

               ii.  William 'Giffard' FITZGILBERT was born about 1117 of Somersetshire, England and died after 1142.


2011097485. Miss De VENUZ,399,415,662,861,862,1245 daughter of Geoffry Gosfried Le Mareschal De VENUZ Baron and Unknown, was born about 1086 in Venoix Near Caen, Calvados, Normandy, France.

Miss married Gilbert Le Mareschal FITZ ROBERT Of Winterbourne 861,1242.,1243 Gilbert was born about 1075 in Somersetshire, England and died before 1130 in Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England 1242. Other names for Gilbert were Gilbert "The Marshall" FITZROBERT, Gilbert GIFFARD Of Winterbourne, and King's Marshal.1244


2011097486. Walter D'evereux SALISBURY Sheriff Of Wiltshire,399,415,662,858,867,868,1006,1246,1247,1248 son of Edward D'EVEREUX Sheriff Of Wiltshire and Matilda FITZHUBERT, was born about 1090 in Chitterne, Warminster, Wiltshire, England,389,390 died in 1147 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1006,1247 about age 57, and was buried near The Choir, Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England.389,390 Other names for Walter were Walter Fitzedward, and Walter D' EVREUX.

General Notes:
WALTER OF SALISBURY, styled also Walter FitzEdward and Walter the Sheriff, son and heir, was sheriff of Wilts under Henry I; but lost the office for a time in that reign. In 1130 he was acquitted of £4 Danegeld in Dorset and £7 in Wilts. He was present at the Council of Northampton, September 1131. He was with Stephen at Westminster at Easter 1136, and at Salisbury at Christmas 1139. He founded the Priory of Bradenstoke, Wilts; and was a benefactor to Salisbury Cathedral.

He married Sibyl, daughter of Patrick DE CHAOURCES [Chaworth], by Maud, daughter of Ernulf DE HESDIN; which Sibyl had as her marriage-portion 15 fees of the old feoffment and one newly made. She died before her husband and was buried near the quire in Bradenstoke. He took the habit of a canon there, died in 1147, and was buried in the same grave as his wife. [Complete Peerage XI:374-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Noted events in his life were:

• Unknown: Earl of Salisbury, Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England. 390,417

• Unknown: Sheriff of Wiltshire, Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England. 390,417

Walter married Sibyl De CHAWORTH Countess Of Salisbury 662,858,861,868,1006,1246,1247 about 1117 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 389.,390 Sibyl was born in 1100 in Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England,389,390 died before 1147 in Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1247, and was buried in Priory, Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England.389,390 Other names for Sibyl were Sibyl De Chaources; Sibilla Maud, and Sibella De CHAOURCES.

Children from this marriage were:

                i.  William De SALISBURY was born about 1106 of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 389,390 and died after 1 July 1143 in Salisbury, , Wiltshire, England 389,390.

2011097104      ii.  Patrick De SALISBURY 1st Earl Of Salisbury (born about 1120 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England - died on 27 March 1168 in Slain In Poitou, Vienne, France)

              iii.  Hawise De EVREUX was born in 1123 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 389,390 and died in 1152 in Braine, Aisne, Picardy, France 389,390 at age 29. Another name for Hawise was Harvoise D'evreux.

1005548743      iv.  Sibyl De SALISBURY (born in 1127 of Salisbury Castle, Wiltshire, England - died on 3 June of Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales)

                v.  Walter II De SALISBURY Cannon Of Bradenstroke was born about 1120 of Salisbury Castle, Wiltshire, England.389,390


2011097487. Sibyl De CHAWORTH Countess Of Salisbury,399,415,662,858,861,868,1006,1246,1247 daughter of Patrick II De CHAWORTH Sr. and Maud (Matilda) De HESDIN, was born in 1100 in Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England,389,390 died before 1147 in Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1247, and was buried in Priory, Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England.389,390 Other names for Sibyl were Sibyl De Chaources; Sibilla Maud, and Sibella De CHAOURCES.

General Notes:
He [Walter of Salisbury] married Sibyl, daughter of Patrick DE CHAOURCES [Chaworth], by Maud, daughter of Ernulf DE HESDIN; which Sibyl had as her marriage-portion 15 fees of the old feoffment and one newly made. She died before her husband and was buried near the quire in Bradenstoke. He took the habit of a canon there, died in 1147, and was buried in the same grave as his wife. [Complete Peerage XI:374-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Sibyl married Walter D'evereux SALISBURY Sheriff Of Wiltshire 662,858,867,868,1006,1246,1247,1248 about 1117 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 389.,390 Walter was born about 1090 in Chitterne, Warminster, Wiltshire, England,389,390 died in 1147 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England 389,390,1006,1247 about age 57, and was buried near The Choir, Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England.389,390 Other names for Walter were Walter Fitzedward, and Walter D' EVREUX.

Sibyl next married Walter D'EVREUX. Walter was born about 1060 of Salisbury, , , England.


2011097498. Adam De HARTLEY Sir 235,309 was born about 1188 in Hartley, Great Minterne, Dorestshire, England.

Adam married Cecilia DEHARTLEY. Cecilia was born about 1192 in Hartley, Great Minterne, Dorsetshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

1005548749       i.  Claricia De HARTLEY (born about 1210 in Hartley, Great Minterne, Dorsetshire, England - died after 1283)


2011097499. Cecilia DEHARTLEY 235,309 was born about 1192 in Hartley, Great Minterne, Dorsetshire, England.

Cecilia married Adam De HARTLEY Sir. Adam was born about 1188 in Hartley, Great Minterne, Dorestshire, England. picture


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