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1029678329808. Igor I Duke Of KIEV 415,3174 was born about 877 in Novgorod, Russia 3175 and died in 947 in Kiev, Ukraine (Killed) 3174 about age 70.

General Notes:
He was, according to the Russian chronicles, the son of Rurik who had come to rule Novgorod. After Rurik's death Igor was taken by his kinsman and protector, Oleg, to Kyiv, where Oleg established the capital of the Rus-Varangian control. He married in 903 Olga, a Scandinavian princess brought from Pskov. Their son was Svyatoslav. On Oleg's death in 913 Igor began to rule the Slavic-Rus- Varangian principality. The main activity of the Varangian rulers was collecting tribute from the Slavic villagers. And they were also eagerly establishing trading and raiding campaigns down the Dniper as far as Byzantium and the Caucasus.

More rebellions occurred when imported Nordic princes paid more attention to collecting tribute from the people than to creating order and defending them from nomad tribes, which by now often carried out sudden attacks from the south-east. The animosity of the local population towards "Eternal wanderers," as they sometimes called their Nordic rulers in the beginning because they often changed their thrones looking for more rewarding ones, culminated in the assassination of Prince Igor. The Veche of the "Drevlian" tribe found that he exaggerated when he imposed very high tribute and did very little for the people and decided to kill him. (At the death Oleg Prince Igor' was faced with a resurgence of independence among the conquered tribes such as the Drevliane and he quelled the insurgents and then extracted from them an even greater tribute. The Drevliane abided by their Prince until his greed and that of his brazen entourage forced their hand. He was captured alone and tied to two tree trunks which had been forcefully bent down by the furious tribesmen and split into two). The decision was promptly executed but very dearly paid for when later Olga, Igor's wife and acting regent sent two punitive expeditions which decimated the "Drevlian" population. Igor also launched campaigns against Byzantium that resulted in important trade treaties between the Greeks and Rus. He also sent campaigns into the Caucasus - Caspian Sea area. 2842

Igor married St. Olga 3174 in 903 in Pskov, Russia.3174 St. was born about 889 in Pskov, Russia and died on 11 July 969 in Kiev, Ukraine 3174 about age 80. Another name for St. was Saint Olga of KIEV.

The child from this marriage was:

514839164904       i.  Svatislav I Grand Duke Of KIEV (born about 920 in Kiev, Ukraine - died in 973 in Berestova, Kiev, Ukraine)




1029678329809. St. Olga 415,3174 was born about 889 in Pskov, Russia and died on 11 July 969 in Kiev, Ukraine 3174 about age 80. Another name for St. was Saint Olga of KIEV.

General Notes:
Olga was a princess based at Pskov, but whether a Scandinavian or Slav is disputed. She married Igor, who became later prince at Kyiv, in 903 AD. They had only one known son, Svyatoslav I. The most interesting aspects of her life and career written in the Russian chronicles appear to be legendary embelisments, however the basic facts seem to be true. These are her revenge against her husband's killers and her conversion to Christianity and visit to Byzantium. No doubt Igor was killed while conducting a typical tribute gathering expedition amongst the Derevlians. They were well known as one of the more independent and violent of the Slavic tribal groups. They lived in the forested region on the right bank of the Dniper south of the Pripiat River (and marsh). While at their capital, Iskorosten, Igor and his druzhina were killed. Olga of course had to avenge this outrage, both for political control and for family revenge reasons. She soon led a campaign in which Iskorosten and other Derevlian towns were destroyed and the inhabitants either killed or enslaved. To avoid reoccurances of her husband's murder, she organized a more systematic tribute collecting system and expanded both fiscal and judicial control via court officials. Along the way she took whole regions and villages for herself, establishing the pattern of the ruler as the largest landowner in the realm.
The other major event was Olga's visit to the Byzantine Emperor, Constantine VII at Byzantium in 957. She either had already been baptized Christian shortly after becoming regent in 945 or was baptized during this trip. The embassy went well from the Rus point of view. Olga was lavishly entertained and well-treated. But she did not return with the kind of ties to the Christian church at Byzantium that she wanted. So in 959 she asked the German king, Otto I, for a bishop who could establish the Christian church in Kyiv. After considerable delay a monk was created bishop and sent to Kyiv, arriving in 961. But, again, his rank and authority did not sufice and he was sent home. By this time her relations with Byzantium had improved as well. In 964 her son, Svyatoslav, became ruler, but he was off on military campaigns most of the time, so Olga continued de facto to govern Kyiv. In 968, while Svyatoslav was on campaign in Bulgaria, the Pecheneg besieged Kyiv. She ably defended the city. A relief force from the north relieved the siege before Svyatoslav was able to return. Olga died in 969. 2842

St. married Igor I Duke Of KIEV 3174 in 903 in Pskov, Russia.3174 Igor was born about 877 in Novgorod, Russia 3175 and died in 947 in Kiev, Ukraine (Killed) 3174 about age 70.

1029678329810. Malk Of LUBECH 415 was born about 910 in Kiev, Ukraine.

Malk married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839164905       i.  Maloucha Of LUBECH (born about 935 in Kiev, Ukraine)


1029678329812. Olaf HARALDSSON 415,2859,3176 was born about 877 in Oslo, Norway and died in 934 in Tonsberg, Norway 2859 about age 57.

General Notes: According to medieval historian, Snorii Sturluson, Olav's father, King Harald I (Haarfagre/Fairhair), bestowed the title of "King" to his sons and divided the land between them to rule.

He was also called "Olav of Viken" and "Olaf Geirstatha-Alf." The name of his wife is unknown.

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He took over Westfold in 930 after brother Bjørn was slain by brother Erik. He raised Guthroth Bjørnsson as a foster child.
He had taken over Ranrike in about 900 after brother Guthorm was slain by Solvi Klofi.
After his father, King Harald Fairhair, died in 933 and brother Erik "Bloodaxe" took over, he and bother Sigroth agreed to meet the next spring in Tonsberg. Erik summoned a great force and sailed to Tonsberg and killed both Olaf and Sigroth in a battle in the hills east of town.

Olaf married.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Tryggve (Truggvi) OLAFSSON was born about 915 in Oslo, Norway and died in 965 in Halvoen, Satenes, Oslo, Norway (Assassinated) 2859 about age 50.

514839164906      ii.  Ragnvald OLAFSSON Of West Gotland & Polotsk (born about 925 in Oslo, Norway - died in 970 in Polotsk, Byelorussia (Killed))


1029678329816. Bjorn "The Old" Eriksson King Of SWEDEN,415,3022,3024,3177,3178 son of Erik VII SWEDEN King Of Uppsala (Sweden) and Unknown, was born in 867 in Uppsala, Sweden and died in 950 in Sweden at age 83. Other names for Bjorn were Bjorn 'Den Gamle' Eriksson, and Bjorn ERIKSSON.

General Notes:
m. Ingeborg; father of Olaf Bjornsson who m. Ingeborg of Sula Thrandsdottir. [Gary Lewis <[email protected], 21 Dec 2001]

Son of Erik Edmundsson; father of Erik VIII 'Sejrsæl' Bjornsson who m. Sigrid. [Andrew Waite <[email protected], 25 Aug 2001]

Said to have reigned for 50 years. Received Ansgar, a learned and pious monk from the convent of Corvey in the year 830. [WBH - Sweden]

Snorri Sturluson says he ruled over 50 years. Received the missionary Anskar at Birka in 829. It is said that Bjorn had sent messengers to Louis the Pious inviting him to dispatch a Christian mission to the Swedes, which he did, though its success was limited. [A History of the Vikings, p. 78-79, 107]

King of Sweden at Upsala 900; known as Bijorn a Haugi (Gamli) "the Old"; father of Eric VIII Segersall, king of Sweden. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 3333]

These dates don't jive ??????

King of Uppsala; son of Erik, King of Uppsala; b.c. 867, d.c. 950; father of Erik VIII Segersall, king of Sweden. [WFT Vol 5 Ped 650]

King of Sweden; b. 867, d. 950; son of Erik VII, King of Sweden. [WFT Vol 5 Ped 3563]

Bjorn married Ingeborg. Ingeborg was born about 860 in Sweden.

Children from this marriage were:

514839302918       i.  Olaf "Mitkg" Bjornsson King Of SWEDEN (born in 885 in Sweden - died about 964)

514839164908      ii.  Erik IV "Victorious" Bjornsson King Of SWEDEN (born about 930 in Sweden - died in 994-995 in Uppsala, Sweden)


1029678329817. Ingeborg was born about 860 in Sweden.

General Notes:
m. Bjorn 'the Old' of Sweden Eriksson; mother of Olaf Bjornsson who m. Ingeborg of Sula Thrandsdottir. [Gary Lewis <[email protected], 21 Dec 2001]

Ingeborg married Bjorn "The Old" Eriksson King Of SWEDEN 3022,3024,3177.,3178 Bjorn was born in 867 in Uppsala, Sweden and died in 950 in Sweden at age 83. Other names for Bjorn were Bjorn 'Den Gamle' Eriksson, and Bjorn ERIKSSON.

1029678329818. Skoglar TOSTI 415,2649 was born about 930 in Vastergotland, Sweden.

Skoglar married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839164909       i.  Sigrid "The Haughty" STORRADA (born about 952 in Vastergotland, Sweden - died after 2 February 1013-1014)


1029678329820. Mistui II OBOTRITES 415 was born in 893 in Sweden.

Mistui married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839164910       i.  Mieceslas Prince Of OBOTRITES (born about 929 in Sweden - died in 999)


1029678329824. Herbert II Count Of Troyes & VERMANDOIS,415,1444,1526,1601,1746,2900,3066 son of Hubert I De Caroling, First Count Of VERMANDOIS AND SENLIS and Countess Of Vermandois Bertha (Beatrice) De MORVOIS, was born in 885 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France,2545 died from 23 February 942 to 943 in St Quentin, Aisne, Picardy, France 2546,2547,2548,2549 at age 57, and was buried in St Quentin, Pas-DE-Calais, France. Other names for Herbert were Heribert, Héribert Ii, Count Of VERMANDOIS,2042 Herbert Ii, and Count Of VERMANDOIS AND TROYES.

Herbert married Liegarde (Hildebrand) Princess Of FRANCE 1526,1601,1784,2546 before 907 in <Vermandois, Normandy, France>. Liegarde was born about 890 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died after March 930-31 1784,2042,2311. Other names for Liegarde were Adela, Hildebrand, Hildebrante,2042 Hildegarde, Liégarde, Adela CAPET, Adela Of FRANCE, Adéle Of FRANCE,2042 Hildebrante (Liegarde) Of NEUSTRIA, Hildebrande De NUESTRIA, and Hildebrant-Liegarde Of NUESTRIA.

Herbert next married Adela Of NEUSTRIA, daughter of Count Of Paris Robert I King Of FRANCE and Adèle Queen Of FRANCE. Adela was born in 890.

1029678329825. Liegarde (Hildebrand) Princess Of FRANCE,415,1444,1526,1601,1746,1784,2546 daughter of Count Of Paris Robert I King Of FRANCE and Adelaide D' ALSACE, was born about 890 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died after March 930-31 1784,2042,2311. Other names for Liegarde were Adela, Hildebrand, Hildebrante,2042 Hildegarde, Liégarde, Adela CAPET, Adela Of FRANCE, Adéle Of FRANCE,2042 Hildebrante (Liegarde) Of NEUSTRIA, Hildebrande De NUESTRIA, and Hildebrant-Liegarde Of NUESTRIA.

Liegarde married Herbert II Count Of Troyes & VERMANDOIS 1526,1601,2900,3066 before 907 in <Vermandois, Normandy, France>. Herbert was born in 885 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France,2545 died from 23 February 942 to 943 in St Quentin, Aisne, Picardy, France 2546,2547,2548,2549 at age 57, and was buried in St Quentin, Pas-DE-Calais, France. Other names for Herbert were Heribert, Héribert Ii, Count Of VERMANDOIS,2042 Herbert Ii, and Count Of VERMANDOIS AND TROYES.

1029678329826. Giselbert I Duke Of LORRAINE Lay Abbot Of Echternach,415,1444,1601,1746,1784,2906,2907 son of Régnier I Longicullus, Count Of HAINAULT and Hersent, Princess De FRANCE, was born about 887 in Reims, Lorraine, France 2328 and died on 2 October 939 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia 1784,2314,2327,2328,2907 about age 52. Another name for Giselbert was Gilbert.

General Notes:
Giselbert (stated by Abbe Chaume to be son of Hersent), d. 939, Duke of Lorraine; m. Gerberga of Saxony, d. 5 May 984. (She m. (2) 939, Louis IV d'Outre-Mer. [Ancestral Roots line 140-18]

Giselbert married Gerberga Of SAXONY Abbess Of Notre Dame 1601,2906,2907 from 29 January 929 to 930 in 1st Husband 2314.,2324 Gerberga was born about 913 in Nordhausen, Saxony, Prussia,2324 died on 5 May 984 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia 2314,2325,2326,2327,2328 about age 71, and was buried in Reims, Champagne, France. Other names for Gerberga were Gerberge Of The GERMANS, Gerberga Of GERMANY, Gerberge Von SACHSEN, and Gerberge Of SAXONY.

1029678329827. Gerberga Of SAXONY Abbess Of Notre Dame,415,505,1444,1601,1746,2326,2327,2906,2907,2909 daughter of Duke Of Saxony Heinrich I "The Fowler" King Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Queen Of The Germans Matilda, Countess Of RINGELHEIM, was born about 913 in Nordhausen, Saxony, Prussia,2324 died on 5 May 984 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia 2314,2325,2326,2327,2328 about age 71, and was buried in Reims, Champagne, France. Other names for Gerberga were Gerberge Of The GERMANS, Gerberga Of GERMANY, Gerberge Von SACHSEN, and Gerberge Of SAXONY.

General Notes:
In 939 her first husband, Duke Giselbert of Lorraine, died and she then married Louis IV of France, who also became ruler of Lorraine though with opposition from Hugo of Francien, who was married to her sister, Hadwig. In 954 her husband died, and she managed to secure the election of her son, Lothar III as king of France, and acted as his regent. The contemporary sources describe her as a highly educated, intelligent and forceful player in the political game of the time. Mother of around 10 children, she lived (913-69). 1741

Gerberga married Giselbert I Duke Of LORRAINE Lay Abbot Of Echternach 1601,1784,2906,2907 from 29 January 929 to 930 in 1st Husband 2314.,2324 Giselbert was born about 887 in Reims, Lorraine, France 2328 and died on 2 October 939 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia 1784,2314,2327,2328,2907 about age 52. Another name for Giselbert was Gilbert.

Gerberga next married Louis IV "Transmarinus" King Of FRANCE 1601,2910 on 25 April 940 in 2ND Husband 2324.,2907 Louis was born on 10 September 921 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France,2910 died on 10 September 954 in St Remy Abbey, Reims, Marne, France 2321,2910,2911 at age 33, and was buried in St Remy Abbey, Rheims. Other names for Louis were Louis IV The Foreigner, Louis IV Transmarinus, King Of FRANCE, and Ludovic TRANSMARINI.

1029678329828. Letalde (Lietaud) I Count Of MACON,415,1444,2069,2693 son of Alberic I Vicomte De NARBONNE Count Of Macon and Etolane De MACON, was born about 910 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died on 17 September 965 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France about age 55.

General Notes:
The following post to SGM, 16 May 1997, by Jim Stevens, indicates some of the debate and confusion among the sources as to the parents of Gerberga. I am sticking with Lietaud and Berta for a while.

From: Jim Stevens ([email protected])
Subject: Parents of Gerberga, wife of Adalbert of Italy
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1997/05/16

If one accepts Letalde as father, there is little consensus as to Gerberga's mother. Letalde m. (1) Ermengarde of Chalon; (2) Berta, possibly dau. of Garnier\Warinus, Count of Troyes; and (3) Richilde, dau. of Richard of Autun. Winkhaus lists Ermengarde as Gerberga's mother; Moriarty lists Berta; and ES (in vol. iii) lists either Berta or Richilde.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 971. 2069

Letalde married Ermengarde De CHALONS,2693 daughter of Monassas (Manasses) I Count Of CHALONS and Ermengarde Of PROVENCE, in 1st Wife.2693 Ermengarde was born about 910 in Chalons-Sur-Marne, Marne, Champagne, France and died in 931 about age 21. Another name for Ermengarde was Ermengarde De CHALON.

Letalde next married Berta De TROYES,2693 daughter of Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES and Teutberga De ARLES, after 931 in 2ND Wife.2693 Berta was born about 915 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France and died before 948.

Letalde next married Richilde Of BURGUNDY 2069,2693 in 948 in 3rd Wife 2069.,2693 Richilde was born about 915 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France. Another name for Richilde was Richilde De CHALONS.

1029678329829. Richilde Of BURGUNDY,415,2069,2693 daughter of Richard I "The Justiciar" Duke Of BURGUNDY and Adelaide Of AUXERRE, was born about 915 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France. Another name for Richilde was Richilde De CHALONS.

Richilde married Letalde (Lietaud) I Count Of MACON 2069,2693 in 948 in 3rd Wife 2069.,2693 Letalde was born about 910 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died on 17 September 965 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France about age 55.

1029678329844. Hildouin Comte De PONTHIEU,415,1120 son of Guillaume I Comte De PONTHIEU and Maude De St. Pol Sur Mer De THEROUANNE, was born about 940 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France and died about 981 1120 about age 41.

Hildouin married Hersende De MONTREUIL. Hersende was born about 946 in Montreuil, Artois/Pas-DE-Calais, France.

1029678329845. Hersende De MONTREUIL 415 was born about 946 in Montreuil, Artois/Pas-DE-Calais, France.

Hersende married Hildouin Comte De PONTHIEU,1120 son of Guillaume I Comte De PONTHIEU and Maude De St. Pol Sur Mer De THEROUANNE. Hildouin was born about 940 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France and died about 981 1120 about age 41.

1029678329846. Fouche I Vicomte De CHARTRES was born in 948 in Chartres, Eure-Et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France.

Fouche married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839164923       i.  Emmeline De CHARTRES (born in 974 in Chartres, Eure-Et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France)


1029678329848. Nocher I Comte De BAR-SUR-AUBE 3179 was born about 940 in Bar-Sur-Aube, Aube, Champagne, France and died in 1003 about age 63.

Nocher married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839164924       i.  Nocher II Comte De BAR-SUR-AUBE (born about 965 in Bar-Sur-Aube, Aube, Champagne, France - died after 1019)


1029678329850. Geoffrey I Grisegnelle Comte D' ANJOU,415,1601,1746,2727,2728,2729 son of Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte D' ANJOU Count Of Anjou and Countess Of Anjou Gerberga De GATINAIS, was born on 11 November 938 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France and died on 21 July 987 in (Slain In Battle) 2729,2730 at age 48.

General Notes:
Received in requital of his gallant services against the Emperor Otto, a grant from King Robert, of the dignified office of Seneschal of France.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, Abt 950. 2729

Geoffrey married Countess Anjou Adelaide De VERMANDOIS,1601,2730,2731,2732 daughter of Count Robert I Comte De Meaux & TROYES and Countess Adelaide Of BURGUNDY, on 2 March 950-951 in 2ND Husband 1St Wife.2069 Adelaide was born in 934 in Meaux, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 8 April 976 2730 at age 42. Other names for Adelaide were Adelaide Comtessa De CHALONS, and2733 Adelaide De TROYES.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, 965. 2729

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, 965. 2729

1029678329851. Countess Anjou Adelaide De VERMANDOIS,415,1601,1746,2730,2731,2732 daughter of Count Robert I Comte De Meaux & TROYES and Countess Adelaide Of BURGUNDY, was born in 934 in Meaux, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 8 April 976 2730 at age 42. Other names for Adelaide were Adelaide Comtessa De CHALONS, and2733 Adelaide De TROYES.

General Notes:
Turton names her Adelaide de Chalons, daughter of Thebault de Chalons. I believe this is a mistake based on the name given by her marriage to her first husband, Lambert d'Auton, Count of Chalons.

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The following was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

Actually it's even uglier than that. ES indicates that Geoffrey married Adelaide de Vermandois & upon her death, married her widowed mother Adelaide de Burgundy, heiress of Chalons. It also states the same mother & dau also married Lambert, Comte de Chalon-sur-Saone, Vicomte de Dijon.

To see discussions of the absurdity of this go to google - groups - soc.genealogy.medieval & use keyword: grisgonelle

The following archived messages give a good synopsis of the problem:
Mardi Carter 26 Mar 1998
Jim Stevens 26 Mar 1998
Kenneth Harper Finton 26 Mar 1998
Christopher Nash 7 Jun 1998

To date I've not seen a definitive solution.

Regards,
Curt

Note: I have read some of the postings. They seem to indicate that Geoffrey m. this Adelaide (although she is sometimes named "Adele de Donzy" and possibly another Adelaide as well, and that this Adelaide may not have married Lambert d'Autun, Count of Chalons?). The part about the mother & daughter marrying the same people is (as it should be) discounted. I am removing her marriage to Lambert d'Autun, making his wife Adelaide of Burgundy.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, Abt 950. 2730,2731 Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, Abt 975. 2731

Adelaide married Geoffrey I Grisegnelle Comte D' ANJOU,1601,2727,2728,2729 son of Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte D' ANJOU Count Of Anjou and Countess Of Anjou Gerberga De GATINAIS, from 2 March 950 to 951 in 2ND Husband 1St Wife.2069 Geoffrey was born on 11 November 938 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France and died on 21 July 987 in (Slain In Battle) 2729,2730 at age 48.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, 965. 2729

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, 965. 2729

Adelaide next married Lambert D' AUTUN Count Of Chalon,1601,2693,2734 son of Robert Vicomte D' AUTUN and Ingeltrude, about 948 in , , , France. Lambert was born in 924 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died from 22 February 978 to 979 in Chalon-Sur-Saone, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France 2734 at age 54. Another name for Lambert was Lambert De CHALON.

1029678574736. Wigeric De La Troesgau, Count Palatine Of AACHEN,415,1444,2432,2748,2751 son of Sigebert Of VERDUN and Kunigund Of PROVENCE, was born about 882 in Trier, Rhrinland-Pfalz, Germany 2520 and died before June 919 1784,2748,2749,2751,2752,2753. Other names for Wigeric were Wigeric Count Palatine Of AACHEN,2748 Wigeric Von AACHEN,2752 Wigeric, Count Palatine Von AACHEN, Wigeric, Pfalzgraf Von AACHEN, Wigeric Count Of Triergau & ARDENNES, Wigric (Wigerich) Count In The BIDGAU, Wigerich Count Of LUXEMBOURG, Wigeric De La Thiergau, Count Of LUXEMBURG, Wigeric Of Luxemburg, Comte De La THIERGAU, Wigeric De TREVES, Wigéric De TRÈVES, Wigeric, Count Of TRIER AND ARDENNES, TRIERGAU AND ARDENNES, Wigeric Count Of TRIESGAU,1784 TROESGAU, Wigeric, and Count Of VERDUN.

General Notes:
The following information was supplied by Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

My notes:
Count in the Triergau, Count Palatine of Aachen [Ref: Weis AR7 143:18]
Pfalzgraf in Trier and the Bildgau and Aachen [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p21]
count in the Bidgau [Ref: John Carmi Parsons 17 Sep 1998]
Count Palatine of Aachen [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p155:21 & 247]
Count of Verdun [Ref: ES I:9, Donald Jackman]
French functionary [Ref: Donald Jackman]
count of the Palace of Charles III [Ref: Thierry Stasser 18 Nov 2002]

Count in the Triergau (Trèves), of the Bidgau, Count Palatine of Aix-la Chapelle (Aachen), Count Palatine of Lorraine [Ref: Han van der Voort http://home.planet.nl/~voort359/home3lorrn.html]

Count Widric also appears as Wigeric in 899: he is often called Count of Bidgau, because he appears then in a charter for the church of Trier. By 916 he had become Count Palatine of Lotharingia (Lorraine) for Charles the Simple. He had died by 919 [Ref: ic ([email protected]) 5 Oct 1996 msg to SGM]

The Luxemburg family
The earliest proved member of this family was Wigerich, *886, +by 919/926, Gf im Bidgau, Pfalzgraf, probably son of Odoacar/Regnier, Gf im Bliesgau/Thiergau und im Ardennergau; m. ca 910 Kunigunde N (fl 890) [the name of Kunigunde's father is unknown, but her mother was Ermentrude, dau.of King Louis II of Neustria and the West Franks.] [Ref: Miroslav Marek http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg1.html] Note: FWIW the river Blies flows from a few kms north of St. Wendel south thru Zweibrücken into the river Saar 15 km sse of Saarbrücken ... Curt

Count in the Triergau, Count Palatine of Aachen [Ref: Weis AR7 143:18]
Pfalzgraf in Trier and the Bildgau and Aachen [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p21]
count in the Bidgau [Ref: John Carmi Parsons 17 Sep 1998]
Count Palatine of Aachen [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p155:21 & 247]
Count of Verdun [Ref: ES I:9, Donald Jackman]
French functionary [Ref: Donald Jackman]
count of the Palace of Charles III [Ref: Thierry Stasser 18 Nov 2002]

Count in the Triergau (Trèves), of the Bidgau, Count Palatine of Aix-la Chapelle (Aachen), Count Palatine of Lorraine [Ref: Han van der Voort http://home.planet.nl/~voort359/home3lorrn.html]

Count Widric also appears as Wigeric in 899: he is often called Count of Bidgau, because he appears then in a charter for the church of Trier. By 916 he had become Count Palatine of Lotharingia (Lorraine) for Charles the Simple. He had died by 919 [Ref: ic ([email protected]) 5 Oct 1996 msg to SGM]

The Luxemburg family
The earliest proved member of this family was Wigerich, *886, +by 919/926, Gf im Bidgau, Pfalzgraf, probably son of Odoacar/Regnier, Gf im Bliesgau/Thiergau und im Ardennergau; m. ca 910 Kunigunde N (fl 890) [the name of Kunigunde's father is unknown, but her mother was Ermentrude, dau.of King Louis II of Neustria and the West Franks.] [Ref: Miroslav Marek http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg1.html] Note: FWIW the river Blies flows from a few kms north of St. Wendel south thru Zweibrücken into the river Saar 15 km sse of Saarbrücken... Curt

died: 919 [Ref: Weis AR7 143:18] 916/18 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p126] 916/8 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagent p155] 916/919 [Ref: Donald Jackman 12 Jul 2000] 919 [Ref: ES VI:127] before 919 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagent p21] before Jun 919 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p247]date: [Ref: Weis AR7 143:18] 916/18 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p126] 916/8 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagent p155] 916/919 [Ref: Donald Jackman 12 Jul 2000] 919 [Ref: ES VI:127] before 919 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagent p21] before Jun 919 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p247]date: [Ref: Weis AR7 143:18] 916/18 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p126] 916/8 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagent p155] 916/919 [Ref: Donald Jackman 12 Jul 2000] 919 [Ref: ES VI:127] before 919 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagent p21] before Jun 919 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p247]

Prof. Jackman= http://sites.netscape.net/erenfried/counts/countyA/county*.htm where * = 01, 02, etc] This website has changed to a different URL since last visited - try google...

Regards,
Curt

Wigeric married Cunégonde Of The WEST FRANKS 1784,2432,2748 in 910 in 1st Husband 2748.,2751 Cunégonde was born about 890 in Aix-La-Chapelle [Aachen], Rhineland, Prussia 2748 and died after 923 1784. Another name for Cunégonde was Kunigunde Von FRANCIA.

1029678574737. Cunégonde Of The WEST FRANKS,415,1444,1784,2432,2748,2750 daughter of Régnier I Longicullus, Count Of HAINAULT and Ermentrude Princess Of FRANCE, was born about 890 in Aix-La-Chapelle [Aachen], Rhineland, Prussia 2748 and died after 923 1784. Another name for Cunégonde was Kunigunde Von FRANCIA.

General Notes:
Cunegonde, daughter of Ermentrude by unknown father, b. ca 890; m. (1) Wigeric, d. 919, Count in the Triergau, Count Palatine of Aachen; m. (2) ca. 920, Richwin, d. 923, Count of Verdun. [Ancestral Roots line 143-18]

The following information was supplied by Curt Hofemann, [email protected] (Note that Stewart Baldwin discounted the pedigree outlined below where Giselbert was 3rd husband of Cunegonde and father of Siegfried; among other reasons were that Reignar being husband of Ermentrude would account for many of the onomastic evidence; I have chosen to represent that relationship instead of a 3rd husband for Cunegonde):

Birth: ABT 890 in Aachen, Rheinland, Prussia

Not to flog a dead horse, but France did not exist at this time & "Rheinland, Prussia" did not exist until nearly 1,000 years later. Until 923, when Charles the Simple was deposed, it was part of the kingdom of the West Franks & after 923 it was part of the kingdom of the East Franks under Henry I of Saxony.

My notes (sorry, quite long) on Cunegonde/Kunegunde gdau of Louis II king of West Franks:

Enkelin von Kg Ludwig d Stammler [Ref: ES VI:127] (granddaughter of King Louis the Stammerer...Curt)

Kunigunde (dau. of Ermentrud dau. of Louis II) married twice - first before 910 to the count palatine Wigerich (d. before 919) and secondly in about 920 to Richwin (d.923) count of Verdun. A charter of Charles III of 911/15 to Wigerich (comes Widricus) names W's wife and one of his sons, Adelbero, whom the king says is his (the king's) nephew (nostri nepotis). [Ref: Richard Borthwick 28 Mar 1998]

To my knowledge, there is no documentary evidence for the identity of Kunigund's father. Reginar I, count of Hainaut (father of Giselbert, duke of Lorraine and son of another Giselbert), has been suggested as one possibility, apparently for onomastic reasons. (Kunigund had a grandson named Reginar, and a son named Giselbert.) [Ref: Stewart Baldwin 16 Mar 2002]

Kunigunde, who was married twice: first with the Pfalzgrafen Wigerich, count in the Bidgau (+ 916 or 918), in second with the count Richwin von Verdun (murdered 923). She is the foundress of two family trunks. [Ref: The controversy over the marriage of the count Otto von Hammerstein, A consequence-fraught church-political decline in discipline by Dr. Johannes Jacobi http://www.burg-hammerstein.de/pageID_746207.html]

Cunegonde, dau. of Ermentrude, herself a daughter of King Louis II (king of France) 9892, married 1) to Wigeric, count of the Palace of Charles III, + between 916 and 919; married 2) to Ricuin, count of Verdun. She had 7 children, 3 of whom were born to Wigeric, namely Adalbero, bishop of Metz, Liutgarde and Gozlin [Ref: Thierry Stasser 18 Nov 2002 citing: Michel Parisse, genealogie de la Maison d'Ardenne, in Publications de la section historique de l'Institut grand Ducal de Luxembourg, vol. 95, 1981, pp 17-40]

Research note: speculation flws:
A paper was brought to my attention that deals with Siegfried of Luxembourg and his origin. It's "Wer Waren die Eltern des Grafen Sigfrid? Eine neue Hypothese zum Ursprung des ersten Luxemburger Grafenhauses", by René Klein, published in Annuaire - A.L.G.H. - Jahrbuch 1998, page 8-27, with 14 geanlogical charts.

The author reflects on the earlier efforts to shed light on Siegfried's origins. Investigators like Depoin (1904, 1907), Kimpen (1954), Brière (1962), Haag (1963), Settipani (1994), Wolf (1994) and the resulting consangineus (im-)possibilities. Then he turns to the known evidence regarding Siegfried and his kin.

With the identity of his mother as Kunigunde as a starting point he looks at the Latin terminology like "patruus", "germanus" and "frater and their classic and medieval meanings, and the evidence from the contemporary records. An evaluation of this leads to his conclusion that Kunigunde married 3 times:

1. Wigerich (c.907), with Adalbero, Gozlin and Liutgard as children,
2. Richwin + 923,
3. Giselbert + 939, duke of Lorraine 928-939.

For Giselbert it was his first marriage. This must have been in 923 or the following year. From this marriage Friedrich, Giselbert and Sigebert/Sigfrid must stem. In 929 Kunigunde must have died and king Heinrich I gave him his daughter Gerberga (just in the marriageble age) as wife. From this marriage came a son Heinrich and 2 or 3 daughters: Wiltrud, Alberada and possible Hedwig. Giselbert drowned in 939 and Geberga was married in the same year to the French Ludwig IV. [Ref: Hans Vogels <[email protected]> 17 Apr 2003 message to Gen-Medieval] Note: Giselbert = ID 4575... Curt

What is the evidence put forward for this? It is not hard to guess that part of the argument will be onomastic (e.g., the presence of the name Giselbert among Siegfried's relations). However, even if you accept the presence of the name as indicating a relationship, that is certainly not enough to nail down any specific connection. What other evidence is advanced for the claim? [Ref: Stewart Baldwin]

Stewart,
René Klein mentions 5 consequences from this choice:
1. Onomastic. Its gives a good explanation for the names Giselbert in de next three generations (brother, son and grandson of Siegfried). The name Reginar for a son of Gozlin can be explained as following: Giselbert was the step-father of Gozlin so Giselberts own brother Reginar could therefore be the godfather of the stepgrandson.

2. The marriage between Friedrich (Siegfrieds brother) and Beatrix, the sister of Hugo Capet en Hedwig, sister of Geberga and Otto I becomes clear. Friedrich had met the princess at the French court because his stepmother Geberga married king Ludwig IV. And Friedrich was a relative of the said Ludwig IV by means of his mother Kunigunde, daughter of Irmentrud, daughter of Ludwig II, the grandfather of Ludwig IV.

3. The relationship between empress Kunigunde, daughter of Siegfried, and empress Agnes, the wife of Heinrich III as "consanguineae" can be satisfyingly explained. Agnes was a daughter of Irmentrud, daughter of Alberade, daugther of duke Giselbert, the father of Siegfried.

4. It also sheds light on the reason why in 1017 at the marriage of Mathilde, descendant of Gozlin, with Reginar V of Hennegau, descendant of Reginar (+ 915), emperor Heinrich II the objections - of being too consanguineous - of bishop Gerhard of Cambrai did not check.

Renn (1941) tried to determine the consanguinity between them through Reginar, the aledged husband of Irmintrud and father of Kunigunde, but came to a forbidden 4th degree. He suspected that the emperors motives to stay silent were political.

In the hypothesis of Klein both marriage partners were just relatives in the 5th degree:
Duke Otto of Sachsen-Uda-Uda-Godfrid-Hermann-Mathilde x 1017
Duke Otto of Sachsen-Heinrich I-Hedwig-Hugo Capet-Hedwig-Reginar V x 1017
Heinrich II spoke out energeticly at the synod of Diedenhofen 1004/5 for a ban on marriages in the 3th and 4th degree and got his way. His suggestion to stick to the canonical 7 th degree as being the allowed degree of consanguity did not get through. The marriage of 1017 was of such a degree that he did not need to act.

5. After all those earlier attempts the mysterious adressing of Sigfrid as "imperatorius frater" has now been solved. Giselbert, Sigfrids father, had secondly married Geberga, the sister of Otto I. The children of this marriage were therefore the "stiefgeschwister" (halfbrother/sisters) of Sigfrid. He was thus a "stiefvetter" (stepcousin) of emperor Otto II. As we have seen before, that the meaning "vetter" (cousin) can be translated with "frater" (brother), and that often no difference was made, just like today, between halfbrothers and full brothers, the adressing of Sigfrid can be translated as imperial stepcousin. This thus explains why there is no mentioning of Sigfrid as a relative of the Ottonen (no actual kinship existed) and why nevertheless Sigfrid and his son Sigfrid stood in a special way to the Ottonen. Therefore Kunigunde could marry Heinrich II without any obstacles regarding Church Law.

One can argue that duke Giselbert could not marry Kunigunde. His grandfather Giselbert kidnapped and married in 846 a daughter of emperor Lothar I.

Ludwig I- Lothar I- N.N.x Giselbert-Reginar-Giselbert x Ludwig I-Karl-Ludwig II-Irmintrud-Kunigunde x
Against this objection one can point out that in the charters the father of Reginar never is mentioned by name. Furthermore it is not definitely decided if we have to accept Reginar (+ 876) or Giselbert, earl in the "pagus Masau", as grandfather of duke Giselbert. Others are against the association of the earl of the "pagus Masau" with Giselbert the kidnapper. If ever this can be proved, it still does not need to be an argument against my hypothesis.

The synode of Diedenhofen was in 1004/5 and Giselbert and Kunigunde were married around 924. As the synode spoke of abuses, the marriages in the 3th and 4th degree must have been more frequently as the sources tell.

This according to René Klein. I hope my translation did justice to the text of the paper. [Ref: Hans Vogels <[email protected]> 22 Apr 2003 message to Gen-Medieval]

In #3 of your post today, you stated concerning Agnes, wife of the Emperor Henry III, that
"The relationship between empress Kunigunde, daughter of Siegfried, and empress Agnes, the wife of Heinrich III as "consanguineae" can be satisfyingly explained. Agnes was a daughter of Irmentrud, daughter of Alberade, daugther of duke Giselbert, the father of Siegfried."

This construction conflates Agnes of Poitou, daughter of Guillaume V of Aquitaine and wife of Henry III, with her mother Agnes of the Franche-Comte, daughter of Otto-William of the Franche-Comte and Irmintrud/Ermentrude de Roucy. [Ref: John P. Ravilious 22 Apr 2003]

Research note: Kunigunde von Francia married (1) Wigeric von Aachen; married (2) Eberhard IV von Nordgau; married (3) Richwin de Verdun. [Ref: Utz 4 Jan 1999 citing: Royalty for Commoners & Weis AR7] Note: Eberhard IV was her son-in-law in most reliable sources (which RfC definitely is not)... my opinion only... Curt

Regards,
Curt

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To add a little data to Cunegonde/Kundegunde:

born: 890/895 [Ref: ES II:1] abt 870/90 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p126] abt 890 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p21, Weis AR7 143] abt 895 [Ref: Settipani Capet #7], mother: [Ref: ES II:1, Moriarty Plantagenet p21, 126, & 247, Settipani Capet #7, Weis AR7 143]

Research note 1: brother: Duke Gieselbert of Lotharingia [Ref: Donald Jackman 7 Dec 2000]

Research note 2: Citing Renn, it is stated that the father of Wigerich's wife Kunigund was probably Reginar of Hainaut (father of duke Giselbert of Lorraine), called a a "well-supported reconstruction" by Professor Jackman. He also makes an onomastic argument that Siegfried's (of Luxemburg, son of Cunigunde) wife Hadwige was a daughter of Giselbert of Lorraine. Now, since it is not reasonable to suppose that Siegfried and Hadwige were first cousins, it is impossible for both of the above reconstructions to be true if Siegfried was Kunigund's son... Although I still remain undecided about identity of Siegfried's father, the standard scenario that Siegfried was either a sbling or half-sibling of Wigerich's children seems well supported to me. [Ref: Stewart Baldwin 16 Mar 2002]

Research note 3: To my knowledge, there is no documentary evidence for the identity of Kunigund's father. Reginar I, count of Hainaut (father of Giselbert, duke of Lorraine and son of another Giselbert), has been suggested as one possibility, apparently for onomastic reasons. (Kunigund had a grandson named Reginar, and a son named Giselbert.) [Ref: Stewart Baldwin 16 Mar 2002]

married Wigeric: 907/909 [Ref: ES VI:127] before 910 [Ref: Moriarty p126] first marriage of Cunegunde [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p247, Settipani Capet #7, Weis AR7 143], names: [Ref: ES II:1, Moriarty Plantagenet p21]

married 2nd Richwin/Ricuin: about 920 [Ref: Weis AR7 #143] abt 920 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p21] second marriage of Cunegunde [Ref: ES VI:127, Moriarty Plantagenet p247]

died: after 930 [Ref: Settipani Capet #7] nach (after) 923 [Ref: ES VI:127]

Regards,
Curt

Cunégonde married Wigeric De La Troesgau, Count Palatine Of AACHEN,2432,2748,2751 son of Sigebert Of VERDUN and Kunigund Of PROVENCE, in 910 in 1st Husband 2748.,2751 Wigeric was born about 882 in Trier, Rhrinland-Pfalz, Germany 2520 and died before June 919 1784,2748,2749,2751,2752,2753. Other names for Wigeric were Wigeric Count Palatine Of AACHEN,2748 Wigeric Von AACHEN,2752 Wigeric, Count Palatine Von AACHEN, Wigeric, Pfalzgraf Von AACHEN, Wigeric Count Of Triergau & ARDENNES, Wigric (Wigerich) Count In The BIDGAU, Wigerich Count Of LUXEMBOURG, Wigeric De La Thiergau, Count Of LUXEMBURG, Wigeric Of Luxemburg, Comte De La THIERGAU, Wigeric De TREVES, Wigéric De TRÈVES, Wigeric, Count Of TRIER AND ARDENNES, TRIERGAU AND ARDENNES, Wigeric Count Of TRIESGAU,1784 TROESGAU, Wigeric, and Count Of VERDUN.

Cunégonde next married Richwin Count Of VERDUN 2748 about 920 in 2ND Husband.2748 Richwin was born about 875 in Verdun, Meuse, Lorraine, France and died in 923 in Aachen, Rheinland, Prussia 2748,2749 about age 48.

1029678574738. Gerhard I Count Von METZ,415,1444,1784,2323,2755 son of Adalbert II (Adalhard) Count Von METZ and Miss Von EIFELGAU, was born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France and died on 24 June 910 in (Slain In Battle) 1784,3095,3096 about age 40. Other names for Gerhard were Gerhard, Gérard, Count Of METZGAU, Gebhard, Count In The NIEDER-LAHNGAU, Gebhard, Count In The WETTERGAU 3095., and3096

Gerhard married Uda (Oda) Von SAXONY,1784,2755 daughter of Count In South Thuringia Otto "The Illustrious" Duke Of SAXONY and Empress Hedwige HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, in 902. Uda was born about 874 in Saxony, Germany and died in 910 about age 36. Other names for Uda were Oda Von SACHSEN, Oda De SAXE, Oda Of SAXE, and Udo Of SAXONY.

1029678574739. Uda (Oda) Von SAXONY,415,505,1444,1784,2755 daughter of Count In South Thuringia Otto "The Illustrious" Duke Of SAXONY and Empress Hedwige HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, was born about 874 in Saxony, Germany and died in 910 about age 36. Other names for Uda were Oda Von SACHSEN, Oda De SAXE, Oda Of SAXE, and Udo Of SAXONY.

Uda married Gerhard I Count Von METZ,1784,2755 son of Adalbert II (Adalhard) Count Von METZ and Miss Von EIFELGAU, in 902. Gerhard was born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France and died on 24 June 910 in (Slain In Battle) 1784,3095,3096 about age 40. Other names for Gerhard were Gerhard, Gérard, Count Of METZGAU, Gebhard, Count In The NIEDER-LAHNGAU, Gebhard, Count In The WETTERGAU 3095., and3096

Uda next married Lothar Count Of STADE.1784 Lothar was born about 840 in Stade, Germany and died from 2 February 879 to 80 in Ebsdorf, Germany (Slain) 1784 about age 39.

Uda next married Zwentibold, King Of The GERMANS in 897. Zwentibold, died on 13 August 900. Another name for Zwentibold, was Zwentibold, Roi De LORRAINE.

1029678574744. Anscar II Count Of Orcheret Marquis Of IVREA,415,1444,2232,2400 son of Amadeus Count Of BURGUNDY and Unknown, was born about 827 in Bourgogne, France and died between 891 and 898 in Ivrea, Piedmont, Italy about age 64.

Anscar married Giselle 2232.,2400 Giselle was born about 855 in Ivrea, Italy.

The child from this marriage was:

514839287372       i.  Adalbert I Margrave Of IVREA (born about 880 in Turin, Italy - died in 923 in Ivrea, Piedmont, Italy)


1029678574745. Giselle 415,2232,2400 was born about 855 in Ivrea, Italy.

Giselle married Anscar II Count Of Orcheret Marquis Of IVREA,2232,2400 son of Amadeus Count Of BURGUNDY and Unknown. Anscar was born about 827 in Bourgogne, France and died between 891 and 898 in Ivrea, Piedmont, Italy about age 64.

1029678574746. Emperor Berengar I King Of Italy HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,2979,3180 son of Marquis Eberhard Marchese Di FRIULI (UNRUOCHINGER) and Gisela, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, was born in 850 in Fruili, Italy 1436,2979,2980 and died on 7 April 924 in Murdered In Verona, Italy 2979,2980 at age 74. Other names for Berengar were Berengarius I, and2980 Berenger I King Of ITALY Holy Roman Emperor.

General Notes:
Berengarius I, b. 850, d. 7 Apr 924, King of Italy, Jan 888-924, Emperor Dec 915-924; m. 899, Bertila of Spoleto, d. Dec 915, daughter of Suppo, Margrave of Spoleto in Perugia, Italy. [Ancestral Roots, line 146-16]

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 915-924.

Berengar married Bertila Of SPOLETTO,2979 daughter of Suppo Margrave Of SPOLETO and Bertha, in 899 2979.,2980 Bertila was born before 865 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy and died in December 915 2979,2980. Other names for Bertila were Bertilla, Bertila Of Spoleta, Queen Of ITALY, and SPOLETO.

Children from this marriage were:

514839287373       i.  Gisele Of Fruili Princess Of ITALY (born about 885 in Fruili, Italy - died on 13 June 910)

                  ii.  Bertha, Abbess Of SAN SALVATORE AT BRESCIA died in 952.


1029678574747. Bertila Of SPOLETTO,415,1444,2979 daughter of Suppo Margrave Of SPOLETO and Bertha, was born before 865 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy and died in December 915 2979,2980. Other names for Bertila were Bertilla, Bertila Of Spoleta, Queen Of ITALY, and SPOLETO.

Bertila married Emperor Berengar I King Of Italy HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,1601,2979,3180 son of Marquis Eberhard Marchese Di FRIULI (UNRUOCHINGER) and Gisela, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, in 899 2979.,2980 Berengar was born in 850 in Fruili, Italy 1436,2979,2980 and died on 7 April 924 in Murdered In Verona, Italy 2979,2980 at age 74. Other names for Berengar were Berengarius I, and2980 Berenger I King Of ITALY Holy Roman Emperor.

1029678574748. Theobald I Count Of ARLES,415,1444,1601,1746,3181,3182,3183 son of Herbert Marquis Of Transjuranian BURGUNDY and Unknown, was born about 860 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 896 1447,3184. Another name for Theobald was Thibaud, Count Of ARLON.

General Notes: AKA: Thibaud, Count de Provence. AKA: Thibaud, Count d'Arles. AKA: Theobald, Count de Vienne. Born: before 864, son of Hubert=Herbert, Duke de Bourgogne and N? Married circa 879: Berthe, Princess de Lorraine, daughter of Lothaire=Lothar II, King de Lorraine and Waldrade d'Alsace. Died: in 890. (Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 133, Line 174-38)

Theobald married Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay 1601,3182,3183 about 879 in 1st Husband 3181.,3183 Bertha was born in 863 in Lorraine, France,3181,3183 died from 8 March 924 to 925 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy 1447,3181,3183 at age 61, and was buried in Lucca. Other names for Bertha were Bertha CAROLING, Bertha De GERMANIE, and Bertha Of LOTHARINGIA.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Hugues D'arles King Of ITALY was born about 880 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died on 10 April 947 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy 1447,3138,3147 about age 67. Other names for Hugues were Hugo, Hugh D' ARLES King Of Italy, Hugues D'arles, Roi D' ITALIE, and Hugo Of PROVENCE.

514840859039      ii.  Teutberga De ARLES (born about 881 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France - died before 30 September 948)

514839287374     iii.  Boso Of Arles, Margrave Of TUSCANY (born in 885 in Tuscany, Italy - died in 936 in Beheaded)


1029678574749. Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay,415,1444,1601,1746,3182,3183 daughter of Lothar II The Saxon, King Of LORRAINE and Queen Waldrada (Valtrude) Of LORRAINE, was born in 863 in Lorraine, France,3181,3183 died from 8 March 924 to 925 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy 1447,3181,3183 at age 61, and was buried in Lucca. Other names for Bertha were Bertha CAROLING, Bertha De GERMANIE, and Bertha Of LOTHARINGIA.

Bertha married Theobald I Count Of ARLES 1601,3182,3183 about 879 in 1st Husband 3181.,3183 Theobald was born about 860 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 896 1447,3184. Another name for Theobald was Thibaud, Count Of ARLON.

Bertha next married Adalbert II "The Rich" Duke Di Lucca & TUSCANY,1601,3138 son of Bonifacio Of TUSCANY and Unknown, after 896 in 2ND Husband.3184 Adalbert was born about 860 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died on 17 August 915 3138,3185,3186 about age 55.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Gui Count Of Lucca Marquis Di TUSCANY was born about 897 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died before 929 in Prison.

                  ii.  Lambert Di Spoleto Marquis Di TUSCANY was born about 898 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy and died about 932 3185,3187 about age 34. Another name for Lambert was Lambert Di SPOLETO Marquis Di Tuscany.

                 iii.  Wido, Marquis Of TUSCANY was born in 896 1447 and died in 928 1447 at age 32. Other names for Wido, were Wido De Lucca, Markgraf De TOSCANA, Guido, and Machese Of TUSCANY.

                  iv.  Ermengarde Di TUSCANY was born about 898 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died from 29 feb 0931 to 932 about age 33.


1029678574750. Rudolph I King Of BURGUNDY,415,505,1444,1601,1746,3188 son of Conrad II Welf, Markgrave Of TRANJURANIAN BURGUNDY and Ermentrude Of HAUTE ALSACE, was born about 860 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France and died on 6 October 911 1447,2323,2539 about age 51. Other names for Rudolph were Rodolphe, Duc De BOURGOGNE, and Rudolph I Von HOCHBURGUND.

General Notes: Many people only have one wife (Willa) for Rudolph I. However I am following Turton, who has Rudolph II b. 877 by a "Gisele", who must have been a wife much earlier than Willa.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 847. 2539

Rudolph married Gisele 2151 in 1st Wife. Gisele was born about 862 in France and died before 893.

The child from this marriage was:

514840885500       i.  Rudolph II Of Burgundy, King Of ITALY (born in 888 in Bourgogne, France - died on 11 July 937)

Rudolph next married Willa Of VIENNE,3189 daughter of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, before 893 in 1st Husband 2ND Wife.1447 Willa was born about 878 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France 1447 and died on 14 June 929 1447 about age 51. Other names for Willa were Willie, Gisele De BOURGOGNE, Willa De BOURGOGNE, Willa I De BOURGOGNE, Gisele De BURGUNDY, Willa Of BURGUNDY, Willa I De PROVENCE, and Willa Von SWABIA.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Waldrada Of BURGUNDY was born about 894 in Bourgogne, France.

514839287375      ii.  Willa Princess Of BURGUNDY (born in 906 in Bourgogne, France - died in 936)

                 iii.  Adelaide Of BURGUNDY was born in 892.1447 Another name for Adelaide was Adelaide De BOURGOGNE.

                  iv.  Louis Of Aquitaine, King Of ARLES. Another name for Louis was Ludwig, Count Im THURGAU.2323

                   v.  Judith Of BURGUNDY.


1029678574751. Willa Of VIENNE,415,505,1444,3189 daughter of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, was born about 878 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France 1447 and died on 14 June 929 1447 about age 51. Other names for Willa were Willie, Gisele De BOURGOGNE, Willa De BOURGOGNE, Willa I De BOURGOGNE, Gisele De BURGUNDY, Willa Of BURGUNDY, Willa I De PROVENCE, and Willa Von SWABIA.

Willa married Rudolph I King Of BURGUNDY 1601,3188 before 893 in 1st Husband 2ND Wife.1447 Rudolph was born about 860 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France and died on 6 October 911 1447,2323,2539 about age 51. Other names for Rudolph were Rodolphe, Duc De BOURGOGNE, and Rudolph I Von HOCHBURGUND.

Willa next married Hugues D'arles King Of ITALY,3138,3147,3148 son of Theobald I Count Of ARLES and Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay, after 911 in 2ND Husband.1447 Hugues was born about 880 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died on 10 April 947 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy 1447,3138,3147 about age 67. Other names for Hugues were Hugo, Hugh D' ARLES King Of Italy, Hugues D'arles, Roi D' ITALIE, and Hugo Of PROVENCE.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Lothair II King Of ITALY was born about 930 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy.


1029678574784. Arnold I Comte De CHINY,3190 son of Eberhard III Count Of MAINGAU and Unknown, was born about 945 in Main River Valley, Hesse, Germany and died in 982 in Chiny, Luxemburg 3190 about age 37.

Arnold married Mathilde Comtesse De CHINY.3191 Mathilde was born about 948 in Chiny, Luxemburg and died in 992 3191 about age 44.

The child from this marriage was:

514839287392       i.  Otto I Comte De Warcq & CHINY (born about 975 in Chiny, Luxemburg - died in 1013)


1029678574785. Mathilde Comtesse De CHINY 3191 was born about 948 in Chiny, Luxemburg and died in 992 3191 about age 44.

Mathilde married Arnold I Comte De CHINY,3190 son of Eberhard III Count Of MAINGAU and Unknown. Arnold was born about 945 in Main River Valley, Hesse, Germany and died in 982 in Chiny, Luxemburg 3190 about age 37.

1029678574786. Robert I Comte De LOMME,415,1784,2811 son of Berenger Comte De NAMUR and Symphorienne Of Lorraine & HAINAULT, was born about 924 in Lomme, France and died in 981 1784 about age 57.

Robert married Ermengarde De LORRAINE,1784 daughter of Otto Count Of LORRAINE and Unknown. Ermengarde was born about 950 in Lorraine, France.

1029678574787. Ermengarde De LORRAINE,415,1784 daughter of Otto Count Of LORRAINE and Unknown, was born about 950 in Lorraine, France.

Ermengarde married Robert I Comte De LOMME,1784,2811 son of Berenger Comte De NAMUR and Symphorienne Of Lorraine & HAINAULT. Robert was born about 924 in Lomme, France and died in 981 1784 about age 57.

1029678605296. Alberic I Comte De DAMMARTIN Lord Of Norton,415,670,1120,1407 son of Eudes De DAMMARTIN Of Norton & Mendlesham and Basilie, was born in 1110 in Dammartine, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France and died in 1183 in Norton, Stow, Suffolk, England 1120 at age 73.

General Notes: Turton has Alberic I de Dammartin as son of Hugues II de Dammartin, occurs c. 1111, by his wife Rothride; and Hugues II as son of Hugues I de Dammartin, d. c. 1100, by his wife Roarde. I have followed Peter Stewart's pedigree for Alberic's ancestry.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 1181. 1407

Alberic married Unknown First WIFE 1407 before 1135. Unknown was born about 1115 in France and died before 1147 1407.

The child from this marriage was:

514839302648       i.  Alberic II Comte De DAMMARTIN (born about 1138 in Dammartin, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France - died on 19 September 1200 in London, Middlesex, England)

Alberic next married Joan BASSET,1407 daughter of Gilbert BASSET Of Wallingford and Edith D' OYLY, after 1147 in 3rd Husband 2ND Wife.1407 Joan was born about 1122 in Wellingford, Oxfordshire, England.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Basilia De DAMMARTIN was born about 1148 in Dammartine, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France.


1029678605297. Unknown First WIFE 415,670,1407 was born about 1115 in France and died before 1147 1407.

General Notes: Turton states that the mother Alberic II was Clemence de Bar, who had married 1st Renaud Comte de Clermont, d. 1162. Ancestral Roots names the wife of Renaud de Clermont as Clemence de Bar-le-Duc, which is what she is named in my files, but says Clemence's 1st husband was Lancelin de Dammartin. Therefore I am following Peter Stewart that Alberic II's mother is an unknown first wife of Alberic I.

Unknown married Alberic I Comte De DAMMARTIN Lord Of Norton,1120,1407 son of Eudes De DAMMARTIN Of Norton & Mendlesham and Basilie, before 1135. Alberic was born in 1110 in Dammartine, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France and died in 1183 in Norton, Stow, Suffolk, England 1120 at age 73.

1029678605298. Reinald II Count Of CLERMONT,415,670,1824,2192 son of Hugh De Creil Comte De CLERMONT and Margaret De ROUCY, was born about 1080 in Clermont-En-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France 1824 and died in 1162 1824,2192 about age 82.

Reinald married Adelaide De VERMANDOIS,1869,2192,2194 daughter of Herbert IV Count Of VERMANDOIS and Adela De VEXIN, in 1103 in 2ND Husband 1St Wife 2192.,2194 Adelaide was born about 1057 in Valois Now Oise, Picardy, France and died on 28 September 1120 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France 2192,2194 about age 63.

Reinald next married Clemence De BAR-LE-DUC,1120,1824,2218 daughter of Renaud I Comte De BAR-LE-DUC & Mousson and Gisele De VAUDEMONT, in 1140 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife.1824 Clemence was born about 1120 in Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, Argonne/Lorraine, France 1824 and died from after 20 January 1182 to 1183 in Clermont-En-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France 2218. Another name for Clemence was Clemence De BAR.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage 2nd husband 2nd wife, Bef 1153. 2218

Children from this marriage were:

514839302649       i.  Maud (Mathilde) Of CLERMONT (born about 1145 in Clermont-En-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France - died in October 1200 in London, Middlesex, England)

                  ii.  Simon I De CLERMONT Count D'ailly was born about 1150 in Clermont-En-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France.1824


1029678605299. Clemence De BAR-LE-DUC,415,670,1120,1824,2218 daughter of Renaud I Comte De BAR-LE-DUC & Mousson and Gisele De VAUDEMONT, was born about 1120 in Bar-Le-Duc, Meuse, Argonne/Lorraine, France 1824 and died from after 20 January 1182 to 1183 in Clermont-En-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France 2218. Another name for Clemence was Clemence De BAR.

General Notes: Turton states that Clemence married (1st) Renaud de Clermont and (2nd) Alberic de Dammartin, but Ancestral Roots states that she married (1st) Lancelin de Dammartin and (2nd) Renaud de Clermont. Alberic de Dammartin did have an unknown first wife, but it was probably not Clemence.

Clemence married Lancelin I Comte De DAMMARTIN,2218 son of Pierre Comte De DAMMARTIN and Unknown, in 1st Husband.2218 Lancelin was born about 1090 in Dammartine, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France and died before 1140 in Bulles, Oise, Picardy, France (Dsp).

Clemence next married Reinald II Count Of CLERMONT,1824,2192 son of Hugh De Creil Comte De CLERMONT and Margaret De ROUCY, in 1140 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife.1824 Reinald was born about 1080 in Clermont-En-Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France 1824 and died in 1162 1824,2192 about age 82.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage 2nd husband 2nd wife, Bef 1153. 2218

1029678605300. John (Jean) I Count Of PONTHIEU,415,670,1120,1957 son of Guy II Count Of PONTHIEU and Ida De ST. POL, was born about 1140 in Montreuil, Artois/Pas-DE-Calais, France and died in 1191 in Acre, Palestine 1120,1957 about age 51.

John married Matilda 3192 in 1st Wife.3192 Matilda was born about 1142 in France and died after 1162.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Adele De PONTHIEU was born about 1160 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France 3192 and died on 15 November 1251 about age 91.

John next married Laura (Laurette) De ST. VALERY,1957,3193,3194 daughter of Bernard IV De ST. VALERY Of Beckley & Horton and Matilda (Maud), after 1162 in 1st Husband 2ND Wife - Divorced 3193.,3194 Laura was born about 1146 in Isleworth, Middlesex, England.

John next married Beatrice De ST. POL,1120,1957,3195 daughter of Anselme Candavaine Comte De ST. POL and Eustachie De CHAMPAGNE, before 1177 in 1st Husband 3Rd Wife 1120.,1957 Beatrice was born about 1155 in St. Pol, Nord, Nord-Pas-DE-Calais, France and died after 1192 3195. Another name for Beatrice was Beatrice CANDAVAINE.

The child from this marriage was:

514839302650       i.  William (Guillaume) III Count Of PONTHIEU (born about 1171 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France - died on 4 October 1221 in Abbeville, Somme, Picardy, France)


1029678605301. Beatrice De ST. POL,415,670,1120,1957,3195 daughter of Anselme Candavaine Comte De ST. POL and Eustachie De CHAMPAGNE, was born about 1155 in St. Pol, Nord, Nord-Pas-DE-Calais, France and died after 1192 3195. Another name for Beatrice was Beatrice CANDAVAINE.

General Notes: Leo van de Pas does not give any ancestry for Beatrix de Saint Pol, wife of Robert de Coucy de Boves; however the dates would indicate that she might be the same person who was married to Jean/John Count of Ponthieu, except that her marriage to Jean/John must have been terminated before his death (or he died earlier than I have him).

Beatrice married John (Jean) I Count Of PONTHIEU,1120,1957 son of Guy II Count Of PONTHIEU and Ida De ST. POL, before 1177 in 1st Husband 3Rd Wife 1120.,1957 John was born about 1140 in Montreuil, Artois/Pas-DE-Calais, France and died in 1191 in Acre, Palestine 1120,1957 about age 51.

Beatrice next married Robert I De Coucy Seigneur De BOVES,2387 son of Thomas De COUCY Comte D'amiens and Melisende De MONTLHERY, after 1177 in 2ND Husband ?.2387 Robert was born about 1125 in Boves, Somme, Picardy, France and died on 19 July 1191 2387 about age 66. Another name for Robert was Robert De COUCY Seigneur De Boves.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Enguerrand II De Coucy Seigneur De BOVES was born about 1179 in Boves, Somme, Picardy, France. Another name for Enguerrand was Enguerrand De COUCY Seigneur De Boves.




1029678605302. Louis VII "The Younger" King Of FRANCE King Of France,399,415,670,1062,1108,1518,1519,1520,1521,1522,1523 son of Louis VI "The Fat" King Of FRANCE and Adelaide Of SAVOY, was born about 1120 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France,1517,1518 died on 18 September 1180 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France 1517,1518,1524 about age 60, and was buried in Notre-Dame-DE-Barbeau, Fontainbleau, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France.

General Notes:
King of France 1137-80. Marriage to Eleanor of Aquitaine was annulled on grounds of consanguinity in 1152. [Funk & Wagnalls]

Son of Louis VI and Adelaide of Marienne; father of Philippe II; m. 3. Alix of Champagne. [Ped. of Charlemagne, Vol. I, p. 64]

As a younger son he had been groomed for the Church. Married at 16 to Eleanor of Aquitaine, he was undoubtedly overwhelmed and uncomfortable with the worldliness of Eleanor's lifestyle. He would never understand her, but from the first, he had adored her in the way an inexperienced boy worships a gay, confident girl; with passionate admiration he responded to her charm, to a cleverness that he himself lacked, and he indulged her extravagantly. Louis had absolutely no sense of military intuition and his invasion of Toulouse was a farce when he cut and ran. [Eleanor of Aquitaine, pp. 38-40]

Rousing himself from post-divorce lethargy, Louis set off on a pilgrimage to St. James of Compostela. Ostensibly a religious expedition, it was also for the purpose of inspecting the daughter of the king of Castile as a possible bride. Evidently Constance, a sober maiden who bore no resemblance in personality or looks to Eleanor, passed his scrutiny, for Louis returned to Paris betrothed. [Eleanor, p. 164]

Louis proposed to King Henry II that he partition his empire among his three oldest sons: the counties of Anjou and Maine to Prince Henry, not quite 14, and then the boy might do homage to Louis for his lands; likewise Richard should receive the duchy of Aquitaine; and Geoffrey the duchy of Brittany on the same
basis. To sweeten the pot, Louis offered to give Richard the hand of Alais, his dau by Constance of Castile. Henry failed to see through this thinly veiled divide and conquer strategy. This was all finalized on the feast of
Epiphany, January 6, 1169 at Montmirail on the border of Maine near Chartres. [Eleanor of Aquitaine, p. 243]

At 59, Louis was beginning to feel the weight of his years and determined that he should proceed with the coronation of Philip. Shortly before the coronation was to take place, Philip and his friends went out to hunt in the forest. Philip became hopelessly lost, panicked, but finally stumbled upon a charcoal burner's home. When he was returned to his father, he fell ill with a fever and he was not expected to live. Louis determined that if Philip lived, he would make a pilgrimage to Becket's tomb. Philip lived and the coronation was scheduled for All Saint's Day, Nov 1, but King Louis, laboring under old age and a paralytic malady, was unable to attend the coronation; for after he had returned from England and was staying at Saint-Denis, he was struck by a sudden
chill, had an attack of paralysis and lost the use of the right side of his body (stroke). He died on Sept. 18, 1180 in Paris. William of Newburgh said, "He was a man of warm devotion to God and of great gentleness to his subjects and of notable reverence for the clergy, but he was rather more simple-minded than is becoming to a prince." [Eleanor, pp. 282-3]

b. 1119 [Judy Martin]

b. 1119 [Mayflower PAF]

Son of Louis VI and Adelaide of Maurienne; m.3 Adelaide of Champagne; father of Alice of France. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 2915]

b. 1120, King of France 25 Dec 1137-1180; m. 3, 1160, Alix de Champagne; father of Philip II Augustus. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 2920b]

Son of Louis VI of France and Adelais of Savoy; m. Eleanor of Aquitaine and Constance of Castile. [WFT Vol 2 Ped 976]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 1121. 1524

• Ruled: 1137-1180

Louis married Eleanor Of AQUITAINE Duchess Of Aquitaine,835,841,1062,1065,1068,1069,1101,1102,1103,1104,1105,1106,1107,1108 daughter of William VIII Count Of POITOU X Duke D'aquitaine and Eleanor De CHATELLERAULT, on 25 July 1137 in Bordeaux, Bordeaux, , France.1517 Eleanor was born from 1121 to 1122 in Belin Castle, , Guinne, Bordeaux, Aquitaine, France,389,390,835,1100,1109 died on 31 March 1204 in Mirabell Castle, Fontevrault L'AB, Maine-Et-Loire, France 389,390,835,1100,1109 at age 82, and was buried on 1 April 1204 in Fontevrault Abbey, Maine-Et-Loire, Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France.389,390 Another name for Eleanor was Eleanor Of POITOU.

Louis next married Constance Of CASTILE,1120,1517 daughter of Alfonso VII "The Emperor" King Of Leon & CASTILE and Berenguela Of BARCELONA, between 1153 and 1154 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France 1120.,1517 Constance was born about 1144 in Castile, Spain, died on 4 October 1160 in (In Child Birth) 1120,1517 about age 16, and was buried in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Margaret Princess Of FRANCE was born after 1157 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France 1122 and died in 1198 in Acre, Palestine.

514839302651      ii.  Alais CAPET Princess Of France (born on 4 October 1160 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France - died on 18 July 1218 in Castile, Spain)

Louis next married Alix (Adelaide) Of CHAMPAGNE,1518,1524,3196 daughter of Theobald IV Comte De BLOIS (Ii) De Champagne and Mathilde (Maud) Of CARINTHIA, on 18 October 1160 in 3rd Wife 1517.,1524 Alix was born about 1140 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France,1517 died on 4 June 1206 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France 1517,1524 about age 66, and was buried in Abbaye DE Potigny, Calvados, Normandy, France.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Philip II "Philip Augustus" King Of FRANCE was born on 22 August 1165 in Gonesse, Val D'oise, Ile-DE-France, France,1524,3197 died on 14 July 1223 in Mantes, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France 1524,3197,3198 at age 57, and was buried in St Denis, Seine-St Denis, France.

                  ii.  Agnes (Anna) De Capet Princess Of FRANCE was born in 1171 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France 3199 and died after 1240.

Louis next married between 22 and 25 July 1137 in Bordeaux, Gironde, France (Divorced 1152) 1517.,1524


1029678605303. Constance Of CASTILE,415,670,1120,1517 daughter of Alfonso VII "The Emperor" King Of Leon & CASTILE and Berenguela Of BARCELONA, was born about 1144 in Castile, Spain, died on 4 October 1160 in (In Child Birth) 1120,1517 about age 16, and was buried in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France.

Constance married Louis VII "The Younger" King Of FRANCE King Of France,1062,1108,1518,1519,1520,1521,1522,1523 son of Louis VI "The Fat" King Of FRANCE and Adelaide Of SAVOY, between 1153 and 1154 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France 1120.,1517 Louis was born about 1120 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France,1517,1518 died on 18 September 1180 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France 1517,1518,1524 about age 60, and was buried in Notre-Dame-DE-Barbeau, Fontainbleau, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France.

1029678605828. Hugh BARBATUS was born in 887 in Normandy, France.

Hugh married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839302914       i.  Amflec De BRIQUEBEC (born about 909 in Bricquibec, Manche, Normandy, France - died about 955)




1029678605832. Harald "Parcus" King Of Sjaelland DENMARK,415,662,3200 son of Frodo (Frotho) King Of DENMARK King Of Sjaelland and Asloga, was born about 858 in Sjaelland Island, Denmark and died in 899 about age 41. Another name for Harald was Harald "Parcus" FRODOSSON King Of Sjaelland.

General Notes:
Sjaelland, also Zealand, island, E. Denmark. The largest and most important island of Denmark, it lies between the Kattegat and the Baltic Sea; it is separated by the Oresund from Sweden and by the Great Belt from the island of Fyn. The coasts, which are rockbound on the SE, are indented by bays and fjords. Agriculture and cattle breeding are the leading occupations. The chief city is Copenhagen, the Danish capital. Area, 2709 sq. mi. [Funk & Wagnalls, Vol. 23, p. 442]

Son of Gorm Enske; m. Princess Elgivia; father of Gorm del Gamell. [A.H. Burgess]

Son of Gorm Enske, King of Sjaelland, and Sida; m. Elgiva of England; mother of Gorm Haraldsson who m. Thyra Klacksdottir. [Terry Walters <[email protected], 2 Nov 2001]

Son of Gorm Fra Danmark and Thrye Haraldsdottir; m. Ælfgifu of Wessex; father of Gorm Del Gammel Haraldsson who m. Sida. [Thomas Mebane LeGrande <[email protected], 21 Feb 2002]

Harald married Elfgifu Princess Of WESSEX, daughter of Aethelred I King Of Kent & WESSEX and Wulfrida Of WESSEX, in , , England. Elfgifu was born about 860 in Wessex, England. Another name for Elfgifu was Ælfgifu Of Wessex.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Gorm "The Old" Haraldsson King Of DENMARK was born about 880 in Sjaelland Island, Denmark and died in 936 in Jellinge Vejle, Denmark 2918,3201 about age 56. Other names for Gorm were Gorm De Gamel, Gorm "The Old" Den GAMLE King Of Denmark, and Gorm "The Old" HARALDSSON King Of Denmark.

514839302916      ii.  Herfast Of ARQUE (born about 885 in Sjaelland Island, Denmark - died in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France)

                 iii.  Guthred HARALDSSON AV NORTHUMBERLAND was born about 885 in Denmark.

Harald next married Bertrade. Bertrade was born about 860 of Denmark.


1029678605833. Elfgifu Princess Of WESSEX,415 daughter of Aethelred I King Of Kent & WESSEX and Wulfrida Of WESSEX, was born about 860 in Wessex, England. Another name for Elfgifu was Ælfgifu Of Wessex.

General Notes:
Dau. of Æthelred I, King of England, and Wulfrida; m. Harald Parcus, King of Sjaelland. [Terry Walters <[email protected], 2 Nov 2001]

Dau. of Æthelred I of Wessex and Wulfthryth of Wessex; m. Harald I Gormsson; mother of Gorm Del Gammel Haraldsson sho m. Sida. [Thomas Mebane LeGrande <[email protected], 21 Feb 2002]

Elfgifu married Harald "Parcus" King Of Sjaelland DENMARK,662,3200 son of Frodo (Frotho) King Of DENMARK King Of Sjaelland and Asloga, in , , England. Harald was born about 858 in Sjaelland Island, Denmark and died in 899 about age 41. Another name for Harald was Harald "Parcus" FRODOSSON King Of Sjaelland.

1029678605836. Bjorn "The Old" Eriksson King Of SWEDEN,415,3022,3024,3177,3178 son of Erik VII SWEDEN King Of Uppsala (Sweden) and Unknown, was born in 867 in Uppsala, Sweden and died in 950 in Sweden at age 83. Other names for Bjorn were Bjorn 'Den Gamle' Eriksson, and Bjorn ERIKSSON.

General Notes:
m. Ingeborg; father of Olaf Bjornsson who m. Ingeborg of Sula Thrandsdottir. [Gary Lewis <[email protected], 21 Dec 2001]

Son of Erik Edmundsson; father of Erik VIII 'Sejrsæl' Bjornsson who m. Sigrid. [Andrew Waite <[email protected], 25 Aug 2001]

Said to have reigned for 50 years. Received Ansgar, a learned and pious monk from the convent of Corvey in the year 830. [WBH - Sweden]

Snorri Sturluson says he ruled over 50 years. Received the missionary Anskar at Birka in 829. It is said that Bjorn had sent messengers to Louis the Pious inviting him to dispatch a Christian mission to the Swedes, which he did, though its success was limited. [A History of the Vikings, p. 78-79, 107]

King of Sweden at Upsala 900; known as Bijorn a Haugi (Gamli) "the Old"; father of Eric VIII Segersall, king of Sweden. [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 3333]

These dates don't jive ??????

King of Uppsala; son of Erik, King of Uppsala; b.c. 867, d.c. 950; father of Erik VIII Segersall, king of Sweden. [WFT Vol 5 Ped 650]

King of Sweden; b. 867, d. 950; son of Erik VII, King of Sweden. [WFT Vol 5 Ped 3563]

Bjorn married Ingeborg. Ingeborg was born about 860 in Sweden.

1029678605837. Ingeborg was born about 860 in Sweden.

General Notes:
m. Bjorn 'the Old' of Sweden Eriksson; mother of Olaf Bjornsson who m. Ingeborg of Sula Thrandsdottir. [Gary Lewis <[email protected], 21 Dec 2001]

Ingeborg married Bjorn "The Old" Eriksson King Of SWEDEN 3022,3024,3177.,3178 Bjorn was born in 867 in Uppsala, Sweden and died in 950 in Sweden at age 83. Other names for Bjorn were Bjorn 'Den Gamle' Eriksson, and Bjorn ERIKSSON.

1029678605838. Thrand Of NORWAY was born about 870 in Norway.

General Notes:
Father of Ingeborg of Sula who m. Olaf Bjornsson. [Gary Lewis <[email protected], 21 dec 2001]

Son of Harald; father of Harald. [DirkPeters <[email protected], 15 Jul 2002]

Thrand married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839302919       i.  Ingeborg Of Sula THRANDSDOTTIR (born in 886 in Uppsala, Sweden - died in 932)


1029678605864. Raoul De Cambrai Count Of Valois & VEXIN 415,2975 was born about 898 in Cambrai, Nord, Nord-Pas-DE-Calais, France and died in 944 in Vexin, Seine Inferieure, Normandy, France (Slain) 2975 about age 46.

General Notes: Raoul "de Cambrai" Count of Valois & Vexin. Slain in 944. Count of Ostervant, Amiens, Valois, and Vexin. This generation missing in Moriarty and in AR (Weis). [Alan B. Wilson]

Raoul married Ligardis (Liegarde) Countess Of MEULAN 2975 in 1st Husband.2445 Ligardis was born about 902 in Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 12 November 991 2975 about age 89.

1029678605865. Ligardis (Liegarde) Countess Of MEULAN 415,2975 was born about 902 in Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 12 November 991 2975 about age 89.

Ligardis married Raoul De Cambrai Count Of Valois & VEXIN 2975 in 1st Husband.2445 Raoul was born about 898 in Cambrai, Nord, Nord-Pas-DE-Calais, France and died in 944 in Vexin, Seine Inferieure, Normandy, France (Slain) 2975 about age 46.

Ligardis next married Waleran I Count Of MEULAN 2445 after 944 in 2ND Husband.2445 Waleran was born about 902 in Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France and died about 11 November 986 2445 about age 84.

1029678605866. Foulques I "Le Roux" Comte D' ANJOU,415,1601,1746,3048 son of Ingelger I Comte D' Orleans & ANJOU Count Of Anjou And Orleans and Countess Of Anjou Adelaide De GASTINOIS, was born about 870 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France and died in 941 2069 about age 71. Another name for Foulques was Fulk I Count D'ANJOU.

Foulques married Countess Of Anjou Rosalie (Roscille) De LOCHES,1601,2069 daughter of Garnier De Villentrois Seigneur De LOCHES and Toscanda Or Forcanda, before 5 July 905. Rosalie was born about 882 in Loches, Touraine, France.

1029678605867. Countess Of Anjou Rosalie (Roscille) De LOCHES,415,1601,1746,2069 daughter of Garnier De Villentrois Seigneur De LOCHES and Toscanda Or Forcanda, was born about 882 in Loches, Touraine, France.

Rosalie married Foulques I "Le Roux" Comte D' ANJOU,1601,3048 son of Ingelger I Comte D' Orleans & ANJOU Count Of Anjou And Orleans and Countess Of Anjou Adelaide De GASTINOIS, before 5 July 905. Foulques was born about 870 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France and died in 941 2069 about age 71. Another name for Foulques was Fulk I Count D'ANJOU.

1029678605868. Pepin II De Vermandois Comte De SENLIS,1011 son of Pépin II Count Of SENLIS [& Bretagne] and Unknown, was born about 876 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France and died about 922 in Senlis, Oise, Picardy, France 1011 about age 46. Another name for Pepin was Pepin II De VERMANDOIS Comte De Senlis.

Pepin married.

The child from this marriage was:

514839302934       i.  Bernard (Bormard) Comte De SENLIS (born in 919 in Somme, Picardy, France - died after 965 in Senlis, Oise, Picardy, France)


1029678607394. Richard I "The Fearless" 3Rd Duke Of NORMANDY Count Of Rouen,415,1049,1114,1601,1746,2507 son of William I "Longsword" Duke Of NORMANDY and Sprota (Sporta) De SENLIS, was born on 28 August 933 in Rouen, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France,1114,2045 died on 20 November 996 in Fecamp, Seine-Inferieure, France 1114,2045 at age 63, and was buried in Fecamp, Seine-Inferieure, France. Another name for Richard was Richard SANS PEUR.

General Notes:
Richard I, byname RICHARD "The FEARLESS", French RICHARD SANS PEUR (b. c. 932--d. 996), duke of Normandy (942-996), son of William I Longsword.

Louis IV of France took the boy-duke into his protective custody, apparently intent upon reuniting Normandy to the crown's domains; but in 945 Louis was captured by the Normans, and Richard was returned to his people. Richard withstood further Carolingian attempts to subdue his duchy and, in 987, was instrumental in securing the French crown for his brother-in-law, the Robertian Hugh Capet. [Encyclopedia Britannica CD '97]

942-996: Duke of Normandy [Ref: Monarchs, Rulers, Dynasties and Kingdoms of the World by R.F. Tapsell 1983 p202]

Title of Duke, again, was not likely generally used by Richard I or his son Richard II, whose official documents style themselves "count of Rouen." Later eleventh century documents use the term Duke - and adopted for historical record. [Ref: William The Conqueror, The Norman Impact Upon England by David C. Douglas 1964]

'Richard I and his new settler in-laws of the 960's were the winners who lasted. In becoming so they learned (and taught) two principles of success that marked them off from the Franks. They learned the value of a strong centralizing chieftain who could at least freeze the status quo once his own local chieftains had taken what they wanted. The more successful he was, the more chiefs attached themselves to him for just this: with his warranty, backed by his chieftains, their defeated enemies could not recover by violence what had been taken from them by violence. Thus were the Norman dukes 'settlers of quarrels.' Fearlessness was the necessary quality in such a coordinating chieftain, and Richard I, who has no encomiast of his deeds, has at least this sobriquet, 'the Fearless' Those who were great fighters and the ruthlessly, selectively violent, were the great centralizers among the threatened and rapacious Norse.' [Ref: Predatory Kinship and the Creation of Norman Power, 840-1066 by Eleanor Searle, University of California Press, 1988 -Charlotte's Web Geneology http://www.charweb.org/gen/rjones/d0042/g0000019.htm#I238]

"RICHARD I, "the Fearless", Duke of Normandy, b. Fecamp ca. 933, named father's h. 29 May 942, d. 20 Nov. 996; m. (1) (Danish wife) Gunnor, d. 1027 or 1031, dau. of the forester of Arques, but betrothed ca. 945 & event. m. (2) 960 to Emma, d. ca. 968, dau. Hugh Capet ..., Count of Paurs. After Emma's death, m. (Christian marriage) Gunnor to legit. their children. ... By Gunnor, Richard had [RICHARD II]." [Ref: Weis AR7:110-111]

"When in 942 William was murdered at the instigation of Count Arnulf of Flanders, his son Richard, still a minor, succeeded him. Louis IV and Hugh the Great each tried to seize Normandy, and Louis took charge of Richard. He then ensconced himself at Rouen and Hugh took Bayeux, which still had a Scandinavian leader called Sictric. Richard escaped from his custody at Laon, retook Rouen, and called on another Viking leader, Harald of the Bassin, for help. The Normans under Richard were able to re-establish their autonomy and from 947 Richard governed in relative peace. In 965 he swore allegiance to the Carolingian king Lothar at Gisors. Richard's official marriage was to Emma, daughter of Hugh the Great; they had no children, but by his common-law wife Gunnor, a Dane, he had many. Richard II, son of Gunnor and Richard I, succeeded his father in 996, another son Robert was archbishop of Rouen from 989 to 1037 and Emma their daughter became queen of England on her marriage to Aethelred, a position she maintained after his death in 1016 by marrying Cnot (sic: Cnut/Knut...Curt). Gunnor's nephews and other relatives furthermore formed the core of the new aristocracy which developed in the course of the eleventh century. Unfortunately we know little about the internal organization and history of Normandy until the reign of Richard II, and this falls outside our period." [Ref: The Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians 751-987, by Rosamond McKitterick, London & NY (Longman) 1983 p238-239]

During the minority of his (William Long-Sword) successor, Duke Richard, King Louis IV -- who was making an expedition into Normandy -- was captured by the inhabitants of Rouen and handed over to Hugh the Great. From this time onwards the dukes of Normandy began to enter into relations with the dukes of France; and in 958 Duke Richard married Hugh the Great's daughter. He died in 996. (Succeeded by Richard II.) [Ref: Gordon Fisher <[email protected]> message to soc.genealogy.medieval 6 Nov 1996]

Richard married Duchess Of Crepon & Norma Gunnora (Gunhilda) CREPON,1372,1375,1601,1666,1704,2045,2234,2508,2509 daughter of Herbastus Forester Of ARQUE and Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR Princess Of Sweden, before 959 in Danish Wife - Christian Marriage After 968.2045 Gunnora was born in 936 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France 1375 and died in 1031 in France 1375,1704,2045 at age 95.

Richard next married Emma CAPET,2045 daughter of Count Of Paris Hugh Magnus Capet Of Neustria, Duke Of The FRANKS Count Of Paris and Princess Of The Germans Hedwige Of SAXONY, in 960.2045 Emma was born about 944 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died about 968 2045 about age 24.

Richard next married CONCUBINE(S) in No Marriage. CONCUBINE(S) was born in 935.

Richard next married Emma Princess Of FRANCE,1601,2045 daughter of Count Of Paris Hugh Magnus Capet Of Neustria, Duke Of The FRANKS Count Of Paris and Princess Of The Germans Hedwige Of SAXONY, in 956 in , , , France.2045 Emma was born in 943 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died from 19 March 967 to 968 2045 at age 24.

Richard next married Papia.

1029678607395. Concubine(S) 415 was born in 935.

Concubine(S) married Richard I "The Fearless" 3Rd Duke Of NORMANDY Count Of Rouen,1049,1114,1601,2507 son of William I "Longsword" Duke Of NORMANDY and Sprota (Sporta) De SENLIS, in No Marriage. Richard was born on 28 August 933 in Rouen, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France,1114,2045 died on 20 November 996 in Fecamp, Seine-Inferieure, France 1114,2045 at age 63, and was buried in Fecamp, Seine-Inferieure, France. Another name for Richard was Richard SANS PEUR.

1029678607424. Malahule Ha EYSTEINSSON Jarl Of More,415,1336,1601,1746 son of Eystein "The Chatterer" Ivarsson NORWAY Jarl Of The Upplands and Countess Of Uppland Ascrida (Aseda) Rognvaldsdatter NORWAY, was born about 845 in Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway and died after 890 1336.

Malahule married.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Petronilla ?? was born about 1135 and died on 28 October 1204 about age 69.

                  ii.  Richard I De ST. SAUVEUR Vicomte De Cotentin was born about 880 in St Sauveur, Cotentin/Manche, Normandy, France and died after 933 1336.

514839303712     iii.  Hugh De CALVACAMP (born about 890 near Dieppe, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France)

Malahule married Mrs. Malahule EYSTEINSSON 1601 in <Near Dieppe>. Mrs. was born about 859 in Maer, , Norway and died in Y.


1029681717832. Herlouin II Comte De PONTHIEU,415,1120 son of Helgaud II Comte De PONTHIEU and Unknown, was born about 875 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France and died on 13 August 943 1120 about age 68.

Herlouin married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840858916       i.  Roger (Rotgaire) Comte De PONTHIEU (born about 894 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France - died about 957)


1029681717836. Baudouin II "The Bald" Count Of FLANDERS,415,1601,1746,2112,2123,3063 son of Baudouin I "Iron Arm" Count Of FLANDERS and Queen Of England Judith Princess Of FRANCE Princess Of The West Franks, was born about 865 in Flanders, France 3064 and died on 10 September 918 2112,2123,3063 about age 53. Another name for Baudouin was Baldwin II Count Of FLANDERS.

Baudouin married Aelfthryth (Elfrida) Princess Of ENGLAND 1601,2112,2123,3063 in 884.3064 Aelfthryth was born about 872 in Wessex, England and died on 7 June 929 2112,3064,3065 about age 57. Other names for Aelfthryth were Alfritha, Ælfthryth Of WESSEX, Elfrida, Aelftrud, Ethelswitha Of WESSEX, and Elftrudis Of WESSEX.

1029681717837. Aelfthryth (Elfrida) Princess Of ENGLAND,415,1444,1601,1746,2112,2123,3063 daughter of Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI, was born about 872 in Wessex, England and died on 7 June 929 2112,3064,3065 about age 57. Other names for Aelfthryth were Alfritha, Ælfthryth Of WESSEX, Elfrida, Aelftrud, Ethelswitha Of WESSEX, and Elftrudis Of WESSEX.

Aelfthryth married Baudouin II "The Bald" Count Of FLANDERS 1601,2112,2123,3063 in 884.3064 Baudouin was born about 865 in Flanders, France 3064 and died on 10 September 918 2112,2123,3063 about age 53. Another name for Baudouin was Baldwin II Count Of FLANDERS.

1029681718024. Ranulph II Count Of POITOU,415,1444,1601,1746,3202 son of Ranulph I Count Of Poitou Duke Of AQUITAINE and Countess Blichilde Du MAINE, was born about 855 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France 3202 and died on 5 August 890 3093,3202 about age 35. Another name for Ranulph was Ramnulf II De POITIERS.

Ranulph married Nun Adélaïde Princess Of FRANCE,1109,1601,3202 daughter of Louis II "The Stammerer" King Of FRANKS and Queen Of The Franks Ansgarde Princess Of BURGUNDY, about 875 1436.,3202 Adélaïde was born about 856 in France, died in 935 3093 about age 79, and was buried in St Arnoul Abbey, Metz, , France.

Children from this marriage were:

514840859012       i.  Duke Of Aquitaine Ebles Mancer Count Of POITOU (born in 890 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France - died in 932)

                  ii.  Arsende De POITIERS was born about 879 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France.


1029681718025. Nun Adélaïde Princess Of FRANCE,415,1109,1444,1601,1746,3056,3202 daughter of Louis II "The Stammerer" King Of FRANKS and Queen Of The Franks Ansgarde Princess Of BURGUNDY, was born about 856 in France, died in 935 3093 about age 79, and was buried in St Arnoul Abbey, Metz, , France.

General Notes:
AR names her Ermengarde, a mistress with no parents indicated. Turton names her Adelaide of France, daughter of Louis II m. (1), 862, Ansgarde, daughter of Hardouin. I have Ansgarde as the 2nd wife, although either or both of Lous II's 1st & 2nd wives could have been mistresses - not wives.

Adélaïde married Ranulph II Count Of POITOU,1601,3202 son of Ranulph I Count Of Poitou Duke Of AQUITAINE and Countess Blichilde Du MAINE, about 875 1436.,3202 Ranulph was born about 855 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France 3202 and died on 5 August 890 3093,3202 about age 35. Another name for Ranulph was Ramnulf II De POITIERS.

1029681718026. Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND,415,505,1416,1444,1447,1601,1746,3099,3100 son of Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI, was born in 875 in Wessex, England,1436,3099 died on 17 July 924 in Farndon On Dee, Farrington, Berkshire, England 378,1416,1436,3099,3100 at age 49, and was buried in 924 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.1436 Other names for Edward were Édouard L'ancien, Roy Des ANGLOS-SAXONS, and WESSEX.

General Notes:
Edward, byname EDWARD THE ELDER (d. 17 July 924, Farndon on Dee, England), Anglo Saxon king in England, the son of Alfred the Great. As ruler of the West Saxons, or Wessex, from 899 to 924, Edward extended his authority over almost all of England by conquering areas that previously had been held by Danish invaders.

Edward ascended the throne upon his father's death in October 899, and in battle in 902 his forces killed a rival claimant, Aethelwald, who had allied with the Danes. After defeating the Northumbrian Danes at Tettenhall, he set out in August 912 to subdue the Danes of the eastern Midlands and East Anglia. From 910 to 916 he constructed a series of fortified enclosures around his Kingdom of Wessex.

At the same time, his sister, the Mercian ruler Aethelflaed, constructed a complementary series of fortresses in the northwest Midlands. In 917 Edward and Aethelflaed launched a massive offensive, quickly overwhelming the entire Danish army of East Anglia. Upon Aethelflaed's death in June 918, Edward assumed control of Mercia, and by the end of the year the last Danish armies in the Midlands had submitted. By that time Edward's kingdom included all the lands south of the Humber estuary; in 920 he pacified Northumbria. Complete political unification of England was achieved during the reign of his son and successor, Athelstan (reigned 924-939). [Encyclopaedia Britannica]

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Well-trained by Alfred, his son Edward 'the Elder' (reigned 899-924) was a bold soldier who defeated the Danes in Northumbria at Tettenhall in 910 and was acknowledged by the Viking kingdom of York. The kings of Strathclyde and the Scots submitted to Edward in 921. By military success and patient planning, Edward spread English influence and control. Much of this was due to his alliance with his formidable sister Aethelflaed, who was married to the ruler of Mercia and seems to have governed that kingdom after her husband's death.

Edward was able to establish an administration for the kingdom of England, whilst obtaining the allegiance of Danes, Scots and Britons. Edward died in 924, and he was buried in the New Minster which he had had completed at Winchester. Edward was twice married, but it is possible that his eldest son Athelstan was the son of a mistress.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 17 July 925. 1784

• Ruled: 3100 899-924

Edward married Ecgwyn 3101 in 893 in 1st Wife 378.,3101 Ecgwyn was born about 877 in Wessex, England.

Edward next married Aelflaed (Aelfflaed) Of WILTSHIRE 1601,1784,3101,3103 before 902 in -, Wessex, England.3101 Aelflaed was born in 852 in Wiltshire, England 378 and died on 5 December 905 378 at age 53. Other names for Aelflaed were Elfleda, Ælflese De BERNICIE, and Aelfflaed Of WILTSHIRE.

Edward next married Edgiva Meapham Of SAXE-KENT 1416,1601,3099,3101 in 919 in 3rd Wife 1416,3099.,3101 Edgiva was born in 896 in Kent County, England,378 died in 961 1416,1436,3099 at age 65, and was buried in Canterbury, Kent, England. Another name for Edgiva was Eadgifu.

Edward next married Queen Eggwyn ENGLAND 1601 about 891 in , , Wessex, England. Eggwyn was born in 874 in , , Wessex, England and died after 897.

1029681718027. Aelflaed (Aelfflaed) Of WILTSHIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,3101,3103 daughter of Aethelhelm Of WESSEX Ealdorman Of Wiltshire and Aethelglyth Of MERCIA, was born in 852 in Wiltshire, England 378 and died on 5 December 905 378 at age 53. Other names for Aelflaed were Elfleda, Ælflese De BERNICIE, and Aelfflaed Of WILTSHIRE.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 920. 1784

Aelflaed married Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND 1416,1601,3099,3100 before 902 in -, Wessex, England.3101 Edward was born in 875 in Wessex, England,1436,3099 died on 17 July 924 in Farndon On Dee, Farrington, Berkshire, England 378,1416,1436,3099,3100 at age 49, and was buried in 924 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.1436 Other names for Edward were Édouard L'ancien, Roy Des ANGLOS-SAXONS, and WESSEX.

1029681718032. Rothold I Count Of ARLES 415 was born about 843 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died in 928 about age 85.

Rothold married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859016       i.  Rotbald I D'angelica Count Of ARLES (born about 890 in Avignon, Vaucluse, Provence, France - died in 949 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France)


1029681718034. William "Le Pieux" Duke Of AQUITAINE,415 son of Count Of Auvergne Bernard II Plantevelue Comte D' AUVERGNE and Countess Ermengarde D' AUVERGNE, was born about 863 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France and died in June 918 in Aquitaine, France about age 55. Another name for William was William Le PIEUX.

William married Engelberge De PROVENCE, daughter of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, in 897. Engelberge was born about 877 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died after January 916-17. Other names for Engelberge were Engelberga Av AQUITAINE, and Engelberga Of VIENNE.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859017       i.  Miss De AQUITAINE (born about 900 in Aquitaine, France)


1029681718035. Engelberge De PROVENCE,415,1444 daughter of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, was born about 877 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died after January 916-17. Other names for Engelberge were Engelberga Av AQUITAINE, and Engelberga Of VIENNE.

Engelberge married William "Le Pieux" Duke Of AQUITAINE, son of Count Of Auvergne Bernard II Plantevelue Comte D' AUVERGNE and Countess Ermengarde D' AUVERGNE, in 897. William was born about 863 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France and died in June 918 in Aquitaine, France about age 55. Another name for William was William Le PIEUX.

1029681718036. Emperor Louis III "The Blind" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,1444,3203,3204 son of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, was born about 883 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 3203 and died on 5 June 928 in Arles, -, France 1447,3203 about age 45. Other names for Louis were Louis III L'aveugle De Provence, Empereur D' OCCIDENT, and Louis De PROVENCE.

General Notes: July 905 - Blinded by King Berengar of Friuli. [Encyclopaedia Britannica]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, September 928. 3204 Arles, Bouches-du-Rhone, Provence, France

• Ruled: 901-905

Louis married Anna Princess of BYZANTIUM,3203 daughter of Leon VI "The Wise" Mamikonid, Emperor Of BYZANTIUM and Zöe KARBONOPSINA, about 900.3203 Anna was born about 887 in Constantinople, Turkey 3203 and died in 912 1447,3203 about age 25. Other names for Anna were Anne Of BYZANCE, and Anna Of CONSTANTINOPLE.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859018       i.  Charles Constantine Count De VIENNE (born about 901 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France - died in January 961-62 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France)

Louis next married Adelaide Of BURGUNDY, daughter of Rudolph I King Of BURGUNDY and Willa Of VIENNE, in 914.1447 Adelaide was born in 892.1447 Another name for Adelaide was Adelaide De BOURGOGNE.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Guilfred De BRIANÇON was born in 918 1447 and died in 970 1447 at age 52.




1029681718037. Anna Princess of BYZANTIUM,415,505,1444,3203 daughter of Leon VI "The Wise" Mamikonid, Emperor Of BYZANTIUM and Zöe KARBONOPSINA, was born about 887 in Constantinople, Turkey 3203 and died in 912 1447,3203 about age 25. Other names for Anna were Anne Of BYZANCE, and Anna Of CONSTANTINOPLE.

Anna married Emperor Louis III "The Blind" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,3203,3204 son of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, about 900.3203 Louis was born about 883 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 3203 and died on 5 June 928 in Arles, -, France 1447,3203 about age 45. Other names for Louis were Louis III L'aveugle De Provence, Empereur D' OCCIDENT, and Louis De PROVENCE.

1029681718038. Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES,415,1444,2232,2400 son of Richard Meroving De CHAUNOIS and Unknown, was born in 868 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France and died on 6 December 925 at age 57.

Garnier married Teutberga De ARLES 2232.,2400 Teutberga was born about 881 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 30 September 948. Other names for Teutberga were Thietberge, and Teutberge Of ARLON.

1029681718039. Teutberga De ARLES,415,1444,2232,2400 daughter of Theobald I Count Of ARLES and Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay, was born about 881 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 30 September 948. Other names for Teutberga were Thietberge, and Teutberge Of ARLON.

Teutberga married Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES 2232.,2400 Garnier was born in 868 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France and died on 6 December 925 at age 57.

1029681718040. Ingelger I Comte D' Orleans & ANJOU Count Of Anjou And Orleans,415,1601,1746,2069 son of Tertuilus (Tertulle) I Comte D' ANJOU and Petronilla Countess Of ANJOU, was born about 845 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,3205 died in 888 in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France 2069 about age 43, and was buried in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, France. Another name for Ingelger was Ingelger I Comte D' ORLEANS & Anjou.

Ingelger married Countess Of Anjou Adelaide De GASTINOIS 1601,2069 in 869 in 1st Husband. Adelaide was born about 854 in Gatinais, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France. Another name for Adelaide was Adele De GATINAIS.

Children from this marriage were:

514840859020       i.  Foulques I "Le Roux" Comte D' ANJOU (born about 870 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France - died in 941)

514840859080      ii.  Sibling Of Fulk I De ANJOU (born about 875 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France)

Ingelger next married Melinda De BUSCANCOIS.1601 Melinda was born in <Of, , Anjou, France> and died in Y.


1029681718041. Countess Of Anjou Adelaide De GASTINOIS,415,1601,1746,2069 daughter of Geoffrey Comte De GASTINOIS and Miss De AMBOISE, was born about 854 in Gatinais, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France. Another name for Adelaide was Adele De GATINAIS.

General Notes:
Curt Hofemann, [email protected], wrote in a post-em:

Moriarty, Paget & Watney give father of Adele as Geoffrey Count de Gastinois (Gatinais). Christian Settipani in "Counts of Anjou and their alliances X and XI centuries, in Family Trees and the Roots of Politics" names her mother as NN sister of Adalard Bishop of Tours, son of a noble of Orleans, Seigneur d'Amboise who married the great grand dau of Pepin (Carloman) King of Italy & Bavaria who was the son of Charlemagne.

Regards,
Curt

Adelaide married Ermenfroi (Ermenfried) Count Of AMIENS,2975,3206 son of Marquis Eberhard Marchese Di FRIULI (UNRUOCHINGER) and Gisela, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, after 888 in 2ND Husband. Ermenfroi was born about 844 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France.

Adelaide next married Ingelger I Comte D' Orleans & ANJOU Count Of Anjou And Orleans 1601,2069 in 869 in 1st Husband. Ingelger was born about 845 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,3205 died in 888 in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France 2069 about age 43, and was buried in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, France. Another name for Ingelger was Ingelger I Comte D' ORLEANS & Anjou.

1029681718042. Garnier De Villentrois Seigneur De LOCHES,415,2069 son of Adalard Seigneur Of LOCHES La Haye, Villentrois and Unknown, was born about 848 in Loches, Touraine, France and died before 929. Another name for Garnier was Werner Seigneur De Locher Villandry & LA STAI.

Garnier married Toscanda Or Forcanda.1601 Toscanda was born about 858 in Of, Loches, Indre-Et-Loire, France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859021       i.  Countess Of Anjou Rosalie (Roscille) De LOCHES (born about 882 in Loches, Touraine, France)


1029681718043. Toscanda Or Forcanda 415,1601,1746 was born about 858 in Of, Loches, Indre-Et-Loire, France.

Toscanda married Garnier De Villentrois Seigneur De LOCHES.2069 Garnier was born about 848 in Loches, Touraine, France and died before 929. Another name for Garnier was Werner Seigneur De Locher Villandry & LA STAI.

Toscanda next married De Villentrois Seigneur De Loches GARNIER 1601 in <Of, , , France>. Seigneur was born about 844 in Of, Loches, , France.


1029681718046. Hector Of ARVERNE 415,2563 was born about 860 in Auvergne, France.2563

Hector married Ava (Aba) D' AUVERGNE Abbess Of Sauxillanges,2563,2690 daughter of Count Of Auvergne Bernard II Plantevelue Comte D' AUVERGNE and Countess Ermengarde D' AUVERGNE. Ava was born in 865 in Auvergne, France 2563 and died after 893 2563. Another name for Ava was Ava Of SAUXILLANGES.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859023       i.  Ava Of ARVERNE (born about 893 in Auvergne, France - died after 942)


1029681718047. Ava (Aba) D' AUVERGNE Abbess Of Sauxillanges,415,2563,2690 daughter of Count Of Auvergne Bernard II Plantevelue Comte D' AUVERGNE and Countess Ermengarde D' AUVERGNE, was born in 865 in Auvergne, France 2563 and died after 893 2563. Another name for Ava was Ava Of SAUXILLANGES.

Ava married Hector Of ARVERNE.2563 Hector was born about 860 in Auvergne, France.2563

1029681718056. Eliran Comte De DIJON,415,1784 son of Raoul Comte De DIJON and Unknown, was born about 870 in Dijon, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France.

Eliran married.

Children from this marriage were:

514840859031       i.  Ermengarde De BURGUNDY (born about 893 in Dijon, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France - died in 952)

                  ii.  Raoul Comte De DIJON was born about 894 in Dijon, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France.

514840859028     iii.  Robert Vicomte D' AUTUN (born in 898 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France - died about 960)


1029681718060. Monassas (Manasses) I Count Of CHALONS,415,1784,2898 son of Theoderic II Meroving, Count Of CHAUNOIS and Buvinus Of METZ, was born about 866 in Chalons-Sur-Marne, Marne, Champagne, France and died before 920 in Reulle-Vergy, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France 1784,2898. Another name for Monassas was Manasses Comte De Chalons & VERGY.

General Notes: Ed Mann states that Manassas was of Chalons-sur-Seine, which I understand is an alternative name for Chalons-sur-Marne.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 31 October 925. Reulle-Vergy, Cote d'Or, Bourgogne, France

Monassas married Ermengarde Of PROVENCE,1784,2898 daughter of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE. Ermengarde was born about 870 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France and died before 21 April 935 in Reulle-Vergy, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France 1784,2898. Other names for Ermengarde were Ermengarde De BOURGOGNE, Ermengarde De VIENNE, and Ermengarde Of VIENNE.

Children from this marriage were:

514840859030       i.  Duke Giselbert Count Of Chalons & BURGUNDY (born in 890 in Chalons-Sur-Marne, Marne, Champagne, France - died on 8 April 956 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France)

                  ii.  Monasses (Manassas) II De CHALONS was born about 894 in Chalons-Sur-Marne, Marne, Champagne, France and died in Reulle-Vergy, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France. Another name for Monasses was Manasses II De VERGY.

                 iii.  Ermengarde De CHALONS was born about 910 in Chalons-Sur-Marne, Marne, Champagne, France and died in 931 about age 21. Another name for Ermengarde was Ermengarde De CHALON.


1029681718061. Ermengarde Of PROVENCE,415,1444,1784,2898 daughter of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, was born about 870 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France and died before 21 April 935 in Reulle-Vergy, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France 1784,2898. Other names for Ermengarde were Ermengarde De BOURGOGNE, Ermengarde De VIENNE, and Ermengarde Of VIENNE.

General Notes: Ed Mann names her Ermengarde de Bourgogne, but then he names Gislebert in the next generation also marrying an Ermengarde de Bourgogne. Perhaps he had a typo, because I believe that this Ermengarde was of Provence.

Ermengarde married Monassas (Manasses) I Count Of CHALONS,1784,2898 son of Theoderic II Meroving, Count Of CHAUNOIS and Buvinus Of METZ. Monassas was born about 866 in Chalons-Sur-Marne, Marne, Champagne, France and died before 920 in Reulle-Vergy, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France 1784,2898. Another name for Monassas was Manasses Comte De Chalons & VERGY.

1029681718062. Eliran Comte De DIJON,415,1784 son of Raoul Comte De DIJON and Unknown, was born about 870 in Dijon, Cote D'or, Bourgogne, France.

Eliran married.

1029681718072. Mayeul I Vicomte De NARBONNE,1444,2069 son of Lievin Vicomte De NARBONNE and Unknown, was born about 845 in Carcassonne, Aude, Languedoc, France and died on 5 June 911 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France about age 66.

Mayeul married Raimodis (Raymonde).2069 Raimodis was born about 850 in France and died before 5 June 911.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Franco II Vicomte De NARBONNE was born about 875 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France.

514840859036      ii.  Alberic I Vicomte De NARBONNE Count Of Macon (born about 880 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France - died in 945 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France)

                 iii.  Raymonde De NARBONNE was born about 885 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France.


1029681718073. Raimodis (Raymonde) 1444,2069 was born about 850 in France and died before 5 June 911.

Raimodis married Mayeul I Vicomte De NARBONNE,2069 son of Lievin Vicomte De NARBONNE and Unknown. Mayeul was born about 845 in Carcassonne, Aude, Languedoc, France and died on 5 June 911 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France about age 66.

1029681718074. Raculfe De MACON,415,2069 son of Count Of Auvergne Bernard II Plantevelue Comte D' AUVERGNE and Countess Ermengarde D' AUVERGNE, was born about 870 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died in 920 2069 about age 50.

Raculfe married.

Children from this marriage were:

514840859037       i.  Etolane De MACON (born about 892 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France)

                  ii.  Blismodis De MACON was born about 897 in Macon, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France.


1029681718076. Richard Meroving De CHAUNOIS,415,1444,2232,2400 son of Thierry I "The Treasurer" Count Of AUTUN and Miss Countess Of BURGUNDY, was born before 853 in Vexin, -, France and died about 885 in Sens, Yonne, Bourgogne, France.

Richard married.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Agnes DE CUNDY was born about 1145 in Cavenby, Lincolnshire, England.

514840859038      ii.  Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES (born in 868 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France - died on 6 December 925)


1029681718078. Theobald I Count Of ARLES,415,1444,1601,1746,3181,3182,3183 son of Herbert Marquis Of Transjuranian BURGUNDY and Unknown, was born about 860 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 896 1447,3184. Another name for Theobald was Thibaud, Count Of ARLON.

General Notes: AKA: Thibaud, Count de Provence. AKA: Thibaud, Count d'Arles. AKA: Theobald, Count de Vienne. Born: before 864, son of Hubert=Herbert, Duke de Bourgogne and N? Married circa 879: Berthe, Princess de Lorraine, daughter of Lothaire=Lothar II, King de Lorraine and Waldrade d'Alsace. Died: in 890. (Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 133, Line 174-38)

Theobald married Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay 1601,3182,3183 about 879 in 1st Husband 3181.,3183 Bertha was born in 863 in Lorraine, France,3181,3183 died from 8 March 924 to 925 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy 1447,3181,3183 at age 61, and was buried in Lucca. Other names for Bertha were Bertha CAROLING, Bertha De GERMANIE, and Bertha Of LOTHARINGIA.

1029681718079. Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay,415,1444,1601,1746,3182,3183 daughter of Lothar II The Saxon, King Of LORRAINE and Queen Waldrada (Valtrude) Of LORRAINE, was born in 863 in Lorraine, France,3181,3183 died from 8 March 924 to 925 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy 1447,3181,3183 at age 61, and was buried in Lucca. Other names for Bertha were Bertha CAROLING, Bertha De GERMANIE, and Bertha Of LOTHARINGIA.

Bertha married Theobald I Count Of ARLES 1601,3182,3183 about 879 in 1st Husband 3181.,3183 Theobald was born about 860 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 896 1447,3184. Another name for Theobald was Thibaud, Count Of ARLON.

Bertha next married Adalbert II "The Rich" Duke Di Lucca & TUSCANY,1601,3138 son of Bonifacio Of TUSCANY and Unknown, after 896 in 2ND Husband.3184 Adalbert was born about 860 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died on 17 August 915 3138,3185,3186 about age 55.

1029681718080. Sunifred I Of Urgell Count Of Urgell-Cerdanya died in 848.

General Notes: Count of Barcelona-Girona and Narbonne.
He was of Visigothic descent and had support from the French King, Charles
the Bald, for his claims to the title. He conquered Cerdanya and Urgell, and
stopped the Moslem invasion.

Information recieved from John Luddy Burke Jr.

Sunifred married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859040       i.  Guifre (Wilfred) The Hairy Count Of Barcelona (died in 897 in Battle)


1029681718082. Baudouin I "Iron Arm" Count Of FLANDERS,415,1601,1746,2112,3207 son of Odoacer Count Of HARLEBEC and Mrs-Odacre, was born in 837 in Flanders, Nord, France and died in 879 in Arras, Flanders Now Belgium 2112,3207 at age 42. Another name for Baudouin was Baldwin I Count Of FLANDERS.

General Notes:
A daring warrior under Charles II, he fell in love with the King's daughter Judith, the youthful widow of 2 English kings, married her, and fled with his bride to Lorraine. At first angry, Charles eventually forgave him and made him Margrave of Flanders-changed to Count in the 10th century. Encyclopedia Britannica for Baldwin I.

Baudouin married Queen Of England Judith Princess Of FRANCE Princess Of The West Franks 841,1068,1601,2112,3207,3209,3210,3211,3212,3213 in 862 in Flandres, Austrasia 2112,3207.,3208 Judith was born about 846 in France,1436,3208 died on 10 September 918 3065,3214,3215 about age 72, and was buried in Gent.3065

Children from this marriage were:

514840859200       i.  Baudouin II "The Bald" Count Of FLANDERS (born about 865 in Flanders, France - died on 10 September 918)

                  ii.  Rudolph (Raoul) Comte De CAMBRAI was born about 864 in Flanders Now Belgium and died on 17 June 896 in Cambrai, Nord, Nord-Pas-DE-Calais, France about age 32.

514840859041     iii.  Guinidilda De FLANDERS

                  iv.  Countess Widnille Of FLANDERS was born in 865 in Flanders, Nord, France and died in 906 at age 41.


1029681718083. Queen Of England Judith Princess Of FRANCE Princess Of The West Franks,415,841,1068,1444,1601,1746,2112,3207,3209,3210,3211,3212,3213 daughter of Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Queen Of The West Franks Ermentrude D' ORLEANS, was born about 846 in France,1436,3208 died on 10 September 918 3065,3214,3215 about age 72, and was buried in Gent.3065

General Notes:
The identity of Judith, wife of Aethelwulf & Aethelbald is pieced together from three different sources.

Aethelwulf m. 856 "daughter of Charles II the Bald"

Aethelbald m. Judith, his step mother after his father Aethelwulf's death in 858.

Judith, daughter of Charles the Bald m. (3) 862 Baudouin I Count of Flanders.

Judith married Aethelwulf King Of Kent & WESSEX,662,779,825,1062,1065,1416,1601,3211,3213,3216,3217,3218,3219,3220,3221,3222,3223,3224 son of Egbert I King Of Kent & WESSEX and Raedburh (Readberg) De CAROLINGIANS, on 1 October 856 in Verberie Palace, Verberie Sur Oise, France 1436.,3211 Aethelwulf was born in 806 in Wessex, England, died from 13 January 857 to 858 in Stambridge, Rochford, Essex, England 1416,3217 at age 51, and was buried in Reburied At Winchester, Hampshire, England.3225

Judith next married Aethelbald King Of WESSEX,825,1513,1601,3210,3220,3225,3226,3227,3228,3229 son of Aethelwulf King Of Kent & WESSEX and Osburgh Of WIGHT Queen Of Wessex, after 858 in 2ND Husband 1436,2112,3207,3208.,3210 Aethelbald was born about 834 in Wessex, England, died on 20 December 860 in (Dsp) 2303 about age 26, and was buried in Sherborne Abbey, Dorset. Another name for Aethelbald was King Of Kent.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Annulled: Annulled, 860.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 855/856-860. 2303

Judith next married Baudouin I "Iron Arm" Count Of FLANDERS 1601,2112,3207 in 862 in Flandres, Austrasia 2112,3207.,3208 Baudouin was born in 837 in Flanders, Nord, France and died in 879 in Arras, Flanders Now Belgium 2112,3207 at age 42. Another name for Baudouin was Baldwin I Count Of FLANDERS.

1029681718086. Eudes Of TOULOUSE Count Of Toulouse died in 919.

Eudes married Garsinde De ALBI. Garsinde was born from 830 to 835 in Albi, Tarn, France.

Children from this marriage were:

514840859044       i.  Raymond II Of TOULOUSE Count Of Toulouse (died in 924)

514840859043      ii.  Adelaide Of TOULOUSE (born about 858)

                 iii.  Gersenda Of TOULOUSE.


1029681718087. Garsinde De ALBI was born from 830 to 835 in Albi, Tarn, France.

Garsinde married Eudes Of TOULOUSE Count Of Toulouse. Eudes died in 919.

1029681718088. Eudes Of TOULOUSE Count Of Toulouse died in 919.

Eudes married Garsinde De ALBI. Garsinde was born from 830 to 835 in Albi, Tarn, France.

1029681718089. Garsinde De ALBI was born from 830 to 835 in Albi, Tarn, France.

Garsinde married Eudes Of TOULOUSE Count Of Toulouse. Eudes died in 919.

1029681718104. Bernard I Comte De MELGUEIL & Substantion, son of Mr. De SUBSTANTION and Unknown, was born about 877 in Melgueil Near Montpellier, Herault, Languedoc, France and died in Substantion Near Montpellier, Herault, Languedoc, France.

Bernard married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859052       i.  Berenger De MELGUEIL (born about 905 in Melgueil Near Montpellier, Herault, Languedoc, France)


1029681718160. Ingelger I Comte D' Orleans & ANJOU Count Of Anjou And Orleans,415,1601,1746,2069 son of Tertuilus (Tertulle) I Comte D' ANJOU and Petronilla Countess Of ANJOU, was born about 845 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,3205 died in 888 in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France 2069 about age 43, and was buried in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, France. Another name for Ingelger was Ingelger I Comte D' ORLEANS & Anjou.

Ingelger married Countess Of Anjou Adelaide De GASTINOIS 1601,2069 in 869 in 1st Husband. Adelaide was born about 854 in Gatinais, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France. Another name for Adelaide was Adele De GATINAIS.

Ingelger next married Melinda De BUSCANCOIS.1601 Melinda was born in <Of, , Anjou, France> and died in Y.

1029681718161. Countess Of Anjou Adelaide De GASTINOIS,415,1601,1746,2069 daughter of Geoffrey Comte De GASTINOIS and Miss De AMBOISE, was born about 854 in Gatinais, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France. Another name for Adelaide was Adele De GATINAIS.

General Notes:
Curt Hofemann, [email protected], wrote in a post-em:

Moriarty, Paget & Watney give father of Adele as Geoffrey Count de Gastinois (Gatinais). Christian Settipani in "Counts of Anjou and their alliances X and XI centuries, in Family Trees and the Roots of Politics" names her mother as NN sister of Adalard Bishop of Tours, son of a noble of Orleans, Seigneur d'Amboise who married the great grand dau of Pepin (Carloman) King of Italy & Bavaria who was the son of Charlemagne.

Regards,
Curt

Adelaide married Ermenfroi (Ermenfried) Count Of AMIENS,2975,3206 son of Marquis Eberhard Marchese Di FRIULI (UNRUOCHINGER) and Gisela, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, after 888 in 2ND Husband. Ermenfroi was born about 844 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France.

Adelaide next married Ingelger I Comte D' Orleans & ANJOU Count Of Anjou And Orleans 1601,2069 in 869 in 1st Husband. Ingelger was born about 845 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,3205 died in 888 in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France 2069 about age 43, and was buried in St Martin, Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, France. Another name for Ingelger was Ingelger I Comte D' ORLEANS & Anjou.


1029681718170. Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,2112,2948,2951,3132,3134,3230 son of Louis I "The Pious" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE Calolingian and Empress Of Holy Roman Emp Judith Altdorf The Fair, Princess Of BAVARIA, was born on 15 May 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia,3132,3133,3134 died on 6 October 877 in Brides-Les-Bains, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France 3132,3133,3134 at age 54, and was buried in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France. Other names for Charles were Charles II "The Bald" King Of FRANCE, Charles Ii, King De FRANCE,3135 Charles Ii, and King De FRANCEAKA.3133

General Notes:
(Andre Roux: Scrolls,191.)
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-39.)
(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 180.)
(Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)
(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Pages 369, 387).

AKA: Charles II, Emperor of the West. AKA: Charles II, King de Bourgogne. AKA: Charles II, King of Italy. Also Known As: Charles "Le Chauve".

Born: on 13 Jun 823 in Francfort-sur-le-Main, Germany, son of Louis I, King de France and Judith de Baviere , Some sources assert King Charles II was born in the year 829.

Note - between 824 and 875 in France: The birth of Charles II in 823 did not at first excite jealousy or rivalry among his brothers. In 829, Charles was granted the region of Alemannia, Rhaetia and part of Burgundy. In 837, his Father Louis I "Le Debonnaire", by arrangement with Louis the German and Pepin gave Charles the land West of the Meuse, Burgundy, Chartres and Paris together with all the bishops, abbots and counts who held benefices in these territories. A portion of Neustria was added in 838, and upon Pepin's death, Louis Le Pieux made Charles King of Aquitaine. On 24 July 840, the new Emperor, Lothar, in Strasburg, refuses to support the land claims of Charles (from the agreement of Worms on 30 May 839). The two brothers, Louis and Charles, unite against Lothar and the War of the Three Brothers begins. Meanwhile, on 12 May 841, the Normands ravage Rouen and all the localities along the Seine, increasing their wealth considerably. At Fontenoy-en-Puisaye (24 June 841), Charles defeats his brothers Lothar (in spite of the arrival of the Army of Aquitaine in the Imperial ranks -- and at a total loss of 40,000 lives at the battle) and Louis Le Germanique. Charles and Louis signed an alliance on 14 February 842 at Strasbourg. Leaving Strasbourg, the two brothers defeat the imperial army of Lothar just West of Comblence. Lothar leaves Aix-le-Chapelle precipitously, pursued by the two brothers. In Mellecey, not far from Chalon-sur-Saone, Lothar proposes a plan to establish perpetual peace which is acceptable to both Louis and Charles. On 15 June, they sign the preliminary peace document. On 1 October 842, each of them sends 40 commissioners to Metz to forge the official document. Prudence, the Bishop of Troyes, notes that Louis regained Germania in the East, Lothar gets the middle part of the Franc Kingdom, including Italy, and Charles obtains the Western lands (West of the Rhone, including Soissons). After that Charles goes to the Palace in Quierzy, where he marries Ermentrude.

Charles signed the Treaty of Verdun (843) which split the Kingdom of Charlemagne. By the Treaty, the destiny of Occidental Europe would be heavily influenced to this day. Louis obtains all lands East of the Rhine, including the cities of Spire, Worms, Mayence. Lothar gets all the lands extending between the Rhine and the Escaut, the Cambresis, the Hainaut, the country of Mezieres, and all the countships neighboring the Meuse, through the Saone and the Rhone, the Artois and Italy. Charles got all the lands East all the way to Spain. The Kingdom of Charlemagne thus was split forever, with the most serious rift between the germanic lands of Louis, and the French lands of Charles. The intervening lands extending from Frisia to Rome, from the North Sea to the Mediterranean including what would become Holland, Belgium, Lorraine and Switzerland would become a sore point of contention between these two peoples. The only thing that mattered to Lothar was the fact that both capitals (Aix and Rome) were located within his territory, thus legitimizing the title of Emperor.

Meanwhile, the Normands pillage Nantes and lower Aquitaine. Charles laid siege to Toulouse in vain (May to July 844). The Normands led by Ragnar Lodbrog arrive in Paris and must be heavily bribed to leave. Other Normand armies ravage Toulouse and Bordeaux (burned to the ground in 848). On 6 May 848, Duke Nomenoe proclaims the indepence of the Church of Bretagne and the following year proclaims himself King of Bretagne. Charles fought Brittany (Bretagne) in 845-851 and was victorious. Not liking Pepin II, the people of Aquitaine request Charles' help, and he obliges by accepting the Crown, and on 6 June 848 is consecrated King of Aquitaine, though he could not defend his kingdom against the Normands. He had Charles of Aquitaine jailed (849 in Corbie). In 850 Charles attacks Bretagne and leaves a garrison in Rennes. No sooner does he leave, that Nomenoe takes the city and then takes Nantes as well. The next year, Nomenoe ravages Maine, but, fortunately for Charles, the King of Bretagne dies suddenly on 7 March in Vendome. Charles has Pepin II locked in the Monastery of Saint-Medard de Soissons in 852. The Normands under Godfrid pillage Tours and Angers and penetrate via the Valley of Escaut all the way to the Seine. The loyalty of Aquitaine shifts in 853, and Louis the German is called upon to help against Charles le Chauve. He in turn defeats Louis and offers Aquitaine his son by Ermentrude, Charles, who would be crowned sovereign in Limoges in October 855. Both Pepin II and Charles d'Aquitaine escape raise armies against Charles le Chauve. Charles fought against Louis for Lorraine (859, 870 [Treaty of Mersen] and 875).

When Louis le Germanique becomes ill in 869 near Rastisbonne, shortly after his nephew Lothar II died, Charles see the opportunity to claim his heritage as Uncle of the deceased. He has himself annointed King of Lorraine in Metz on 9 September, by the Bishop Hincmar. In March, 867, Charles d'Aquitaine dies, and his father Charles le Chauve is recognized as King by the Assembly in Pouilly-sur-Loire. Upon the death of his nephew, Lothar II on 8 August 869, Charles sped to Lotharingia and had himself crowned King of Lotharingia annointed on 9 September in the cathedral at Metz by Bishop Adventius of Metz and Archbishop Hincmar of Rheims. In 9 August 870, through the Treaty of Meerseen, Louis "Le Germanique" and Charles "Le Chauve" reach an agreeable compromise whereby they divide the lands of Lothar II between themselves, leaving Louis II no part of the inheritance. As soon as Louis II died on 12 August 875, Charles rushed to Italy and received the imperial crown and is annointed by Pope John VIII on 25 December 875. In Pavia on 5 January 876, by acclamation of the counts and nobles of Italy, Charles becomes King of Italy. On 31 January 876, the Archbishop of Milan proclaims Charles as Emperor. The French ecclesiasticals and nobles, having some misgivings about Charles' ability to take care of his Kingdom meet in Ponthion. Charles joins them dressed in the attire of the Frankish King. As soon as they declare him elected and recognize his imperial authority, Charles donned the Byzantine crown, and purple vestment of emperor. When Louis le Germanique dies on 28 August 876, Charles claims Lorraine as his own. While on an expedition in Italy against the Sarrasins, through the specific request of Pope Jean VIII, Charles le Chauve dies at the foot of Mount Cenis.

Married on 13 Dec 842 in Quierzy-sur-Oise, Aisne, Ile-de-France, France: Ermentrude d'Orleans , daughter of Odon=Eudes, Count d'Orleans and Ingeltrude de Paris; Ermentrude was crowned Queen of France in 866, having already produced a number of children including 6 sons but none of them was satisfactory as far as Charles Le Chauve was concerned. By September 866, four of them were dead.

Married on 25 Nov 869 in Aix-la-Chapelle, France: Richilde de Bourgogne, daughter of Beuve=Bouin, Comte de Bourgogne and Richilde d'Arles; The honeymoon is short-lived, as Louis le Germanique demands, as part of his heritage from the death of his nephew Lothar II, a part of Lorraine. Died: on 6 Oct 877 in Avrieux, Dauphine, France, at age 54 Charles II is buried at Saint Denis although originally he was buried in Nantua. Before expiring, he named his son, Louis Le Begue as his successor, and the Empress Richilde, crowned by Pope Jean VIII earlier that year, is charged with taking the royal garbs and sword to her step-son.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 875-877.

Charles married Queen Of The West Franks Ermentrude D' ORLEANS 1601,1784,2112,3231 on 14 December 842 in Crecy, France 3135.,3231 Ermentrude was born on 27 September 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,2147,3133 died on 6 October 869 in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France 3133,3231 at age 39, and was buried in St Denis, Aude, France. Another name for Ermentrude was Hermentrude.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Rothildis D' AQUITAINE was born about 844 in Aquitaine, France and died about 928 about age 84. Another name for Rothildis was Rothilde De NEUSTRIA.

1029681718083      ii.  Queen Of England Judith Princess Of FRANCE Princess Of The West Franks (born about 846 in France - died on 10 September 918, buried in Gent)

514840862118     iii.  Louis II "The Stammerer" King Of FRANKS (born on 1 November 846 in France - died on 10 April 879 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-DE-France, France)

                  iv.  "The Lame" Lothaire Prince Of FRANCE was born about 847 in , , France and died in 865 about age 18.

514840859085       v.  Hersent, Princess De FRANCE (born in 865 in France - died about 890)

                  vi.  Godehilde Princess Of FRANCE was born about 868 in France and died before 907. Another name for Godehilde was Godehilde CAROLINGIAN Princess.

                 vii.  Charles King Of AQUITAINE was born in 847 in , , , France and died on 29 September 865 in Buzancois, Indrey, France at age 18.

                viii.  Abbot Of Echternach Carloman Prince Of FRANCE was born in 849 in , , France 1436 and died in 876 in Epternac, , , France at age 27.

                  ix.  Abbess Of Hasnon Ermentrud Princess Of FRANCE was born about 854 in , , France and died in Y.

                   x.  Hildegarde Princess Of FRANCE was born about 856 in , , France and died in Y.

                  xi.  Abbesstradegonde Rotrude, Abbess Of ST. RADEGUND was born in 850 in , , , France and died between 889 and 912 about age 39.

                 xii.  Gisèle Princess Of FRANCE was born about 858 in , , , France and died on 1 July 874 about age 16.

                xiii.  Drogo Of The WEST FRANKS.

                 xiv.  Pippin Of The WEST FRANKS was born about 872.

Charles next married Richaut Of METZ,3134 daughter of Budwine (Bouin\Beuvesde) Count Of Italy & METZ and Richilde Of ARLES, on 25 November 870.3134 Richaut was born about 845 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Rothaut Princess Of FRANCE was born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3232 and died from 22 March 927 to 28 2147 about age 57.

Charles next married Queen Of The West Franks Richilde Countess Of METZ (ARDENNES) 1601 from 22 January 869 to 870 in Aix La Chapelle, , France. Richilde was born in <Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia> and died in Y.

Charles next married Richildis Of The WEST FRANKS,3134 daughter of Budwine (Bouin\Beuvesde) Count Of Italy & METZ and Richilde Of ARLES, on 25 November 870 1436.,3134 Richildis was born about 850 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France. Another name for Richildis was Richilde.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Rothaut Princess Of FRANCE was born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3232 and died from 22 March 927 to 928 2147 about age 57. Another name for Rothaut was Rothilde, Rothaut.

                  ii.  Charles was born in 876.1436


1029681718171. Queen Of The West Franks Ermentrude D' ORLEANS,415,1444,1601,1746,1784,2112,3231 daughter of Odo (Eudes) I Comte D' ORLEANS and Countess Of Orleans INGELTRUDE, was born on 27 September 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,2147,3133 died on 6 October 869 in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France 3133,3231 at age 39, and was buried in St Denis, Aude, France. Another name for Ermentrude was Hermentrude.

Ermentrude married Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601,1784,2112,3132,3134 on 14 December 842 in Crecy, France 3135.,3231 Charles was born on 15 May 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia,3132,3133,3134 died on 6 October 877 in Brides-Les-Bains, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France 3132,3133,3134 at age 54, and was buried in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France. Other names for Charles were Charles II "The Bald" King Of FRANCE, Charles Ii, King De FRANCE,3135 Charles Ii, and King De FRANCEAKA.3133

1029681718208. Godefroi, Count Palatine Of LORRAINE,415,1444,1784,2323 son of Gerhard I Count Von METZ and Uda (Oda) Von SAXONY, was born in 937 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France and died in 1005 at age 68. Other names for Godefroi, were Godfrey, and Gottfreid.

Godefroi, married Ermentrude Princess Of FRANCE, daughter of Charles III "The Simple" King Of FRANCE and Frédérune HAMALANT. Ermentrude was born about 908 in France.

1029681718209. Ermentrude Princess Of FRANCE,415,1444 daughter of Charles III "The Simple" King Of FRANCE and Frédérune HAMALANT, was born about 908 in France.

Ermentrude married Godefroi, Count Palatine Of LORRAINE,1784 son of Gerhard I Count Von METZ and Uda (Oda) Von SAXONY. Godefroi, was born in 937 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France and died in 1005 at age 68. Other names for Godefroi, were Godfrey, and Gottfreid.

1029681718400. Baudouin I "Iron Arm" Count Of FLANDERS,415,1601,1746,2112,3207 son of Odoacer Count Of HARLEBEC and Mrs-Odacre, was born in 837 in Flanders, Nord, France and died in 879 in Arras, Flanders Now Belgium 2112,3207 at age 42. Another name for Baudouin was Baldwin I Count Of FLANDERS.

General Notes:
A daring warrior under Charles II, he fell in love with the King's daughter Judith, the youthful widow of 2 English kings, married her, and fled with his bride to Lorraine. At first angry, Charles eventually forgave him and made him Margrave of Flanders-changed to Count in the 10th century. Encyclopedia Britannica for Baldwin I.

Baudouin married Queen Of England Judith Princess Of FRANCE Princess Of The West Franks 841,1068,1601,2112,3207,3209,3210,3211,3212,3213 in 862 in Flandres, Austrasia 2112,3207.,3208 Judith was born about 846 in France,1436,3208 died on 10 September 918 3065,3214,3215 about age 72, and was buried in Gent.3065

1029681718401. Queen Of England Judith Princess Of FRANCE Princess Of The West Franks,415,841,1068,1444,1601,1746,2112,3207,3209,3210,3211,3212,3213 daughter of Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Queen Of The West Franks Ermentrude D' ORLEANS, was born about 846 in France,1436,3208 died on 10 September 918 3065,3214,3215 about age 72, and was buried in Gent.3065

General Notes:
The identity of Judith, wife of Aethelwulf & Aethelbald is pieced together from three different sources.

Aethelwulf m. 856 "daughter of Charles II the Bald"

Aethelbald m. Judith, his step mother after his father Aethelwulf's death in 858.

Judith, daughter of Charles the Bald m. (3) 862 Baudouin I Count of Flanders.

Judith married Aethelwulf King Of Kent & WESSEX,662,779,825,1062,1065,1416,1601,3211,3213,3216,3217,3218,3219,3220,3221,3222,3223,3224 son of Egbert I King Of Kent & WESSEX and Raedburh (Readberg) De CAROLINGIANS, on 1 October 856 in Verberie Palace, Verberie Sur Oise, France 1436.,3211 Aethelwulf was born in 806 in Wessex, England, died from 13 January 857 to 858 in Stambridge, Rochford, Essex, England 1416,3217 at age 51, and was buried in Reburied At Winchester, Hampshire, England.3225

Judith next married Aethelbald King Of WESSEX,825,1513,1601,3210,3220,3225,3226,3227,3228,3229 son of Aethelwulf King Of Kent & WESSEX and Osburgh Of WIGHT Queen Of Wessex, after 858 in 2ND Husband 1436,2112,3207,3208.,3210 Aethelbald was born about 834 in Wessex, England, died on 20 December 860 in (Dsp) 2303 about age 26, and was buried in Sherborne Abbey, Dorset. Another name for Aethelbald was King Of Kent.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Annulled: Annulled, 860.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 855/856-860. 2303

Judith next married Baudouin I "Iron Arm" Count Of FLANDERS 1601,2112,3207 in 862 in Flandres, Austrasia 2112,3207.,3208 Baudouin was born in 837 in Flanders, Nord, France and died in 879 in Arras, Flanders Now Belgium 2112,3207 at age 42. Another name for Baudouin was Baldwin I Count Of FLANDERS.


1029681718402. Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND,415,779,830,835,1062,1065,1444,1513,1601,1746,2303,2720,3216,3233,3234,3235,3236,3237,3238,3239,3240,3241,3242,3243,3244,3245,3246,3247,3248,3249,3250,3251 son of Aethelwulf King Of Kent & WESSEX and Osburgh Of WIGHT Queen Of Wessex, was born in 849 in Wantage, Berkshire, England,835,1416,1436,3065,3216 died on 26 October 899 in Winchester, Hampshire, England 835,1436,3065,3216 at age 50, and was buried in 901 in Winchester Cathedral, Winchester, England. Another name for Alfred was Alfred The Great, King Of The WEST SAXONS.

General Notes:
King of the West Saxons during numerous Danish invasions. Laid the groundwork for the unification of England. Patron of learning and education. Translated the work of Boethius and Paulus Orosius. Made the first laws with no distinction between the English and the Welsh peoples. [Funk & Wagnalls]

Came to the throne in 871. He was a scholar, lawgiver, warrior and king, the first great statesman to emerge clearly from the mists of early English history. His biographer and friend, Asser, Bishop of Sherborne, painted a portrait of a man of exceptional gifts, devout and humane, devoted to the welfare of his people, as brave in battle as he was studious in scholarship, always careful to make the best use of his time so that he could continue with his studies and translations without neglecting the cares and duties of government, even inventing a water clock to help him in this endeavour.

In battle against the Danes at Ashdown in the Berkshire hills Alfred fought "like a wild boar". But, although his enemies were here defeated, the Danish incursions into England were soon resumed; and for a time Alfred, with a small company of faithful followers, was driven into hiding from the invaders on the Isle of Athelney in the Somerset marshes, moving "under difficulties through woods and into inaccessible places" and giving rise to the famous legend that he sought shelter in a cottage where a woman scolded the unrecognized fugitive for allowing her cakes to burn by the fire.

Gradually, however, the number of his supporters increased and by 878 Alfred was able to bring the Danes to battle once more and to defeat them decisively. He obliged them to remain within an area bound by Watling Street known as the Danelaw, and persuaded their leader, Guthrum, and several of his leading warriors, to be baptized as Christians. Taking advantage of the temporary peace, Alfred reorganized the fyrd, satisfying the complaints of men who had had to leave their farms for indeterminate periods to serve as soldiers; and he built up a strong navy to patrol the English Channel, forcing many would-be invaders to turn their attentions to northern France where their settlements became known as Normandy, the land of the men from the north. [The Story of England]

In 865 the Great Army, under several royal Scandinavian generals, moved from Francia and landed in East Anglia. In 866 they seized York from the warring Northumbrian kings and set up a kingdom based on that town; they then conquered eastern Mercia and East Anglia. The attacks on King Alfred's Wessex failed, although in 878 Wessex was attacked from both east and west and the Vikings narrowly missed capturing the king himself. Alfred rallied his subjects, and forced the invaders to make peace, agreeing on a frontier
between West Saxon territory and what became known as the Danelaw. By about 888 King Alfred had learned much from his Frankish neighbours on the art of fighting Vikings and had built up a series of forts, or burhs, and had equipped himself with an effective navy. [The Oxford History of Medieval Europe]

Alfred was the most complete embodiment of all that is great, all that is lovable, in the English temper. He combined as no other man has ever combined its practical energy, its patient and enduring force, its profound sense of duty, the reserve and self-control that steadies in it a wide outlook and a restless daring, its temperance and fairness, its frank genialty, its sensitiveness to action, its poetic tenderness, its deep and passionate religion. His temper was instinct with piety. Vexed as he was by sickness and constant pain, his temper took no touch of asceticism. His rare genialty, a peculiar elasticity and mobility of nature, gave color and charm to his life. A sunny frankness and openness of spirit breathes in the pleasant chat of his
books, and what he was in his books he showed himself in his daily converse. [WBH - England]

5th son of Ethelwulf, came to the shaking throne on the death of his brother, at a time when a body of Danes held the mouth of the Thames and had fixed a strong camp as far up as Reading. The noblest of the English kings, his virtues and exploits better attested than the halo of romance that crowns the British Arthur, some of whose legendary renown seems to have been borrowed from this Saxon hero. Mother died when he was very young. Sent to Rome when he was 5 years old in the charge of Bishop Swithin to further his education. He
remained there for 2-3 years. Gave half his time and income to God and all of both for the good of his people. Sent gifts to Rome and to foreign monasteries, even as far off as to mission settlements in India. Refounded
London after chasing out Guthrum and the Danes who had repeatedly plundered the city for nearly a century. He built new streets and gates, and repaired the Roman walls, behind which the Danes later on left traces of their presence in the names of their saints, Magnus and Olaf. Winchester appears to have been Alfred's capital, but in his moving life he must have spent much time at London, though it was treated as belonging not to Wessex but to the dependent kingdom of Mercia. London Bridge was made into a keep closing the passage of the river Thames. [Leaders & Landmarks, Vol. II, pp. 14-24]

From the accession of Ethelbert in 860, to his death in 866, Alfred is without responsibility, except that of self-improvement. He is of weak health; but he leads no sedentary life. Alfred saw that, however excellent were books, there were other means of education; and thus he became, not only the great warrior and statesman, but the most practical improver of the people, elevating their knowledge and exciting their industry. He taught workers of gold and other artificers how best to labour in their crafts. He instructed his falconers,
hawkers, and dog-keepers. He built houses, majestic and good beyond all the precedents of his ancestors, by his new mechanical inventions. [Knight's Popular History of England, Vol. 1, pp. 90-150]

Had 2 sons and 4 daughters. [Knight's, Vol. 1, p. 131]

Reigned 871-99. 5th and youngest son of Aethelwulf whose fame was to resound through history like no English king before him; father of Edward the Elder. [Chronicle of the Royal Family, chart]

From an early age Alfred suffered from bouts of ill health. Speculation is that his malady(ies) were chronic hemmorhoids, epilepsy, or a venereal disease contracted before his marriage to Princess Ealhswith. [Chronicle of the Royal Family, p. 13]

Founded the University of Oxford and died there in 901; buried at Winchester. His wife was Elswitha, dau. of the earl of Mercia. [Falaise Roll, p. 187]

One of the greatest men in history. Crowned king at Winchester 871; founded the British Navy; organized the militia; compiled a code of laws; built schools and monasteries; invited scholars to live at his court; translator of several books himself. [Williams-Wolcott & Related Families, p. 159]

Alfred prevented the landing of one detachment of Danes in the Stour, but a second pirate fleet swept away his victorious ships and landed its men. On Edward's accession Ethelwald, the pretender to Alfred's throne, thought to make good his claim by Danish arms, fled to East Anglia and gathered a large army among them. [Victoria History of Suffolk, p. 164]

Alfred ascended to the throne in 871 at the age of 23. After a series of battles, he succeeded in liberating England from the Danes, Europe's most terrible warriors, who surrendered in 878 with a solemn oath to quit Wessex and accept baptism.
During the following years of peace, Alfred rebuilt cities, erected fortresses, trained militia, and encouraged the arts and learning. He reformed the administration of justice so effectively that "a purse of money, or a pair of golden bracelets might .... be exposed for weeks in a complete safety on the common highways." In a era of ignorance and barbarism, Alfred was an accomplished scholar and a zealous patron of learning. He translated many historical and philosophical works.
Both for what he did and for what he was, Alfred has become known to all generations of Englishmen as their best and greatest king.
On his death bed, he spoke this message; "This I can now most truly say, that I have sought to live worthily while I lived, and after my life to leave to men who come after me a remembering of me in a good works."
His five axioms were: 1. A wise God governs. 2. All suffering may be accounted blessings. 3. God is the chiefest good. 4. Only the good are happy. 5. The fore-knowledge of God does not conflict with man's free will.

King of England; son of Ethelwulf, King of Wessex, and Osburh; m. Ealhswith. [WFT Vol 1 Ped 986]

The Anglo-Saxon cause was at a low ebb when Alfred began his reign (871-901). At tone time he was a monarch on the run, hiding in the wild marshes at Athelney in Somerset, where he burned the famous cakes. Gradually, Alfred was able to push further east, moving his capital from Shaftesbury to Winchester
and drawing a line across England to contain the territorial ambitions of the Danelaw. Eventually, he moved the vulnerable Saxon settlement at Aldwych (old town) into the relative security of the walls of Roman Londinium.
Alfred deserved his title " the Great" as much for the arts of peace. His defensive townships were the major force in creating urban communities. In all, he founded some 25 towns. Notable alfredian fortifications survive at Wareham in Dorset, Wallingford in Oxfordshire and at Cricklade in Wiltshire. Alfred also studied Latin, promoted learning, established monasteries and convents and ordered the compilation of the historical record known as the ANGLO-SAXONCHRONICLE.
Alfred's reign saw the further consolidation of the English nation under the tutelage of Wessex, as commenced by Egbert (802-39), generally reckoned to be the first King of England. [Realm, Jan/Feb, 1997, No. 72, p. 57]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 901. 1416

• Ruled: 2303 871-899

Alfred married Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI 1601,3101,3216,3235,3252 in 868 in Winchester, -, England 835,1416,1436,3065.,3216 Elswitha was born in 852 in Gaini, Mercia, England,3065 died on 5 December 905 in St. Mary's Abbey, Winchester, Hampshire, England 1416,1784,3216 at age 53, and was buried in Winchester, Dorset, England. Other names for Elswitha were Alswitha, Ealhswith, Ethelswitha, Ealswith Of The GAINI, and1436 Alswitha Of MERCIA.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Aethelflaed Of WESSEX Queen Of Mercia was born in 869 in Wessex, Wessex, England,378 died on 12 June 918 in , St. Peters, Gloucestershire, England 3065,3253 at age 49, and was buried in St. Peters, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England. Other names for Aethelflaed were Ethelfleda, Lady Of The Mercians, and Æthelfled Of WESSEX.

514840859201      ii.  Aelfthryth (Elfrida) Princess Of ENGLAND (born about 872 in Wessex, England - died on 7 June 929)

514840867106     iii.  Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND (born in 875 in Wessex, England - died on 17 July 924 in Farndon On Dee, Farrington, Berkshire, England)

                  iv.  Athelstan Of The SAXONS was born about 878 in Wessex, England.

                   v.  Abbess Of Shaftsbury Æthelgifu ENGLAND Abbess Of Shaftsbury. Another name for Æthelgifu was Ethelgiva Of WESSEX Abbess Of Shaftesbury.

                  vi.  Abbess Of Shaftesbury Ethelgiva Princess Of ENGLAND was born about 875 in , , Wessex, England and died in Y.

                 vii.  Edmund Prince Of ENGLAND was born about 873 in , , Wessex, England and died in Y.

                viii.  Æthelweard ENGLAND was born in 880.1436

                  ix.  Princess Alfritha ENGLAND was born in 875 in , Wessex, England and died in Y.

                   x.  Ethelwerd Prince Of ENGLAND was born about 879 in Of, , Wessex, England and died on 16 October 922 about age 43.


1029681718403. Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI,415,1444,1601,1746,3101,3216,3235,3252 daughter of Aethelred II Mucil Earl Of MERCIA and Eadburh (Eadberg) FADBURN, was born in 852 in Gaini, Mercia, England,3065 died on 5 December 905 in St. Mary's Abbey, Winchester, Hampshire, England 1416,1784,3216 at age 53, and was buried in Winchester, Dorset, England. Other names for Elswitha were Alswitha, Ealhswith, Ethelswitha, Ealswith Of The GAINI, and1436 Alswitha Of MERCIA.

Elswitha married Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND 779,830,835,1062,1065,1513,1601,2303,2720,3216,3233,3234,3235,3236,3237,3238,3239,3240,3241,3242,3243,3244,3245,3246,3247,3248,3249,3250,3251 in 868 in Winchester, -, England 835,1416,1436,3065.,3216 Alfred was born in 849 in Wantage, Berkshire, England,835,1416,1436,3065,3216 died on 26 October 899 in Winchester, Hampshire, England 835,1436,3065,3216 at age 50, and was buried in 901 in Winchester Cathedral, Winchester, England. Another name for Alfred was Alfred The Great, King Of The WEST SAXONS.

1029681718404. Hubert I De Caroling, First Count Of VERMANDOIS AND SENLIS,415,1444,1524,1601,1746,2541,2542,2543 son of Pepin I, Count Of SENLIS, ST. QUENTIN, AND PERONNE and Perrone Of VERMANDOIS, was born about 840 in Vermandois, Normandy, France,2544 died in 900 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France (Murdered) 1436,1447,2544 about age 60, and was buried in Seigneur Of Senlis, Peronne, And St Quentin. Other names for Hubert were Heribert I,2541 Herbert I, Count Of VERMANDOIS, Herbert Ier, and Comte De VERMANDOIS.

Hubert married Countess Of Vermandois Bertha (Beatrice) De MORVOIS 1601,2544 about 879 in <Vermandois, Normandy, France>. Bertha was born about 860 in Morvois, France. Another name for Bertha was Beatrice De MORVOIS.2541

1029681718405. Countess Of Vermandois Bertha (Beatrice) De MORVOIS,415,1444,1601,1746,2541,2544 daughter of Guerri I Comte De MORVOIS and Eve De ROUSSILLON, was born about 860 in Morvois, France. Another name for Bertha was Beatrice De MORVOIS.2541

Bertha married Hubert I De Caroling, First Count Of VERMANDOIS AND SENLIS 1524,1601,2543 about 879 in <Vermandois, Normandy, France>. Hubert was born about 840 in Vermandois, Normandy, France,2544 died in 900 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France (Murdered) 1436,1447,2544 about age 60, and was buried in Seigneur Of Senlis, Peronne, And St Quentin. Other names for Hubert were Heribert I,2541 Herbert I, Count Of VERMANDOIS, Herbert Ier, and Comte De VERMANDOIS.

1029681718406. Count Of Paris Robert I King Of FRANCE,415,505,1444,1524,1601,1746,1784,2304,2305 son of Count Of Orleans Robert "Fortis\The Strong" Duke Of FRANCE and Adelaide, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, was born in 870 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France 2263,2306,2307,2308 and died on 15 June 923 in Soissons, Aisne, Picardy, France (Slain In Battle) 1436,1524,1784,2263,2308,2309 at age 53. Other names for Robert were Robert I Robertien, Roi De FRANCE, Robert I Count Of PARIS, Robert I, and King De PARIS.2308

General Notes:
French king (922–23), son of Count Robert the Strong and younger brother of King Eudes. He inherited from Eudes the territory between the Seine and the Loire rivers. In 922, Robert led a rebellion against King Charles III (Charles the Simple) and was crowned king by a party of nobles and clergy, but he was soon killed in battle. His son-in-law, Raoul of Burgundy, succeeded him. His son was Hugh the Great.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 922-923.

Robert married Adelaide D' ALSACE 1784,2310 in 1st Wife.2307 Adelaide was born about 870 in France and died before 894. Other names for Adelaide were Aelis Of ALSACE, and2042 Adele De FRANCE.2308

Robert next married Queen Of France Béatrice De VERMANDOIS,1524,1601,2309 daughter of Hubert I De Caroling, First Count Of VERMANDOIS AND SENLIS and Countess Of Vermandois Bertha (Beatrice) De MORVOIS, before 894 in 2ND Wife 1436,2309.,2312 Béatrice was born about 880 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France 1436,1447 and died after March 930-31 1436,2313. Another name for Béatrice was Béatrix.

Robert next married Adèle Queen Of FRANCE.1601 Adèle was born in <Bourgogne, Marneogne, France> and died before 890.

1029681718407. Adelaide D' ALSACE,415,1444,1784,2310 daughter of Hugh Comte De BOURGES and Unknown, was born about 870 in France and died before 894. Other names for Adelaide were Aelis Of ALSACE, and2042 Adele De FRANCE.2308

Adelaide married Count Of Paris Robert I King Of FRANCE 1524,1601,1784,2304,2305 in 1st Wife.2307 Robert was born in 870 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France 2263,2306,2307,2308 and died on 15 June 923 in Soissons, Aisne, Picardy, France (Slain In Battle) 1436,1524,1784,2263,2308,2309 at age 53. Other names for Robert were Robert I Robertien, Roi De FRANCE, Robert I Count Of PARIS, Robert I, and King De PARIS.2308

1029681718436. Gorm "The Old" Haraldsson King Of DENMARK,415,662,2918,2922,3201,3254 son of Harald "Parcus" King Of Sjaelland DENMARK and Elfgifu Princess Of WESSEX, was born about 880 in Sjaelland Island, Denmark and died in 936 in Jellinge Vejle, Denmark 2918,3201 about age 56. Other names for Gorm were Gorm De Gamel, Gorm "The Old" Den GAMLE King Of Denmark, and Gorm "The Old" HARALDSSON King Of Denmark.

General Notes:
King of Denmark, founder of the Jelling Dynasty. Made his mains set at Jelling, home of the two biggest burial mounds in Denmark and by two runic stones, one erected by Gorm and the other by his son Harold the Bluetooth. The latter stone reads, "Harald, the king, ordered this memorial made for his father Gorm and his mother, Thyra, the Harald who won all of Denmark, and also Norway, and (made) the Danes Christians." [An Outline History of Denmark]

m. Thyra "Danebod"; father of Harold VII "Bluetooth". [Ancestral Roots, p. 5-6]

Son of Harold II, King of Sjaelland; m. Thyra Danebod. [GRS CD#100]

Son of Harald Parcus, King of Sjaelland, and Elgiva of England; m. Thyra Klacksdottir; father of:
1. Knut Gormsson
2. Gunnhildr Gormsdattir who m. Eric Bloodaxe
3. Harald I Bluetooth, King of Denmark, who m. Gunhilda Olafsdotter and Cynthia de Crepon
4. Toke Gormsson
[Terry Walters <[email protected], 2 Nov 2001]

b. 890, d. 945; son of Harald I Gormsson and Æfgifu of Wessex; m. Sida; father of:
1. Harald II who m. Gunhild, Thora of the Obotrites, Gyrithe Olafsdottir, Cyrid
2. Herbastus de Crêpon who m. Cyrid de France
3. Knut Gormsson
[Thomas Mebane LeGrande <[email protected], 21 Feb 2002]

b. aft 840, d. 936; son of Haraldr II av Haalogaland and Elgiva of England; m. Thyri Klacksdottir; father of:
1. Harald II, Blauzahn König von Dänemark who m. Gunhild Olavsdatter
2. Knut
3. Gunhild who m. Erik Blutaxt von Norwegen
4. Toke
[Dirk Peters <[email protected], 15 Jul 2002]

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 899-936. 3201

Gorm married Thyra "Ornament Of Denmark" DANEBOD Queen Of Denmark,662,2721,2918,3254,3255,3256 daughter of Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Ecgwyn, about 897 in Denmark. Thyra was born about 844 in Wessex, England and died in 935 in Jellinge Vejle, Denmark about age 91. Another name for Thyra was Thyri.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Gunnhild GORMSDATTIR Princess Of Denmark was born about 905 in Denmark and died in 977 about age 72. Other names for Gunnhild were Gunnhildr, and Mother Of Kings KONUNGAMODIR.

514840859218      ii.  Harold VII Bluetooth GORMSON King Of Denmark (born in 910 in Blauzahn, Germany - died on 1 November 986 in Jomsborg, Denmark)

                 iii.  Toke GORMSSON was born about 914 in Denmark and died in 985 in Fyrisvall, Denmark about age 71. Another name for Toke was Val-Toke.

                  iv.  Knut 'Danaast' GORMSSON was born in 918 in Denmark and died about 940 about age 22.

                   v.  Thyre GORMSSON was born about 920 in Denmark.

Gorm next married Sida about 909. Sida was born about 890 in Jutland, Denmark and died in 935 in Jelling, Vejle, Denmark about age 45.


1029681718437. Thyra "Ornament Of Denmark" DANEBOD Queen Of Denmark,415,505,662,2721,2918,3254,3255,3256 daughter of Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Ecgwyn, was born about 844 in Wessex, England and died in 935 in Jellinge Vejle, Denmark about age 91. Another name for Thyra was Thyri.

General Notes: Gorm's wife was Tyra - of that there is no doubt. But her parentage is even more mysterious that Gorm's. According to an ancient tradition, she was the daughter of an Anglo-Saxon monarch, perhaps King Edward the Elder, who ruled Wessex from 904 to 924.

Snorri, on the other hand, informs us that Tyra was a sister of King Klakk-Harald of Jutland. (This Danish King is certainly not to be confused with the Harald Klak [d. 845], who was befriended by Louis the Pious a whole century before Gorm's time.)

There seems to be more evidence to support the tradition that Gorm's wife was English.

In the first place, Tyra was a Christian. It is far more likely that a Christian princess would have come from England, where the royal family were Christians, than from Jutland, which was still thoroughly pagan despite the early missionary efforts of Ansgar.

In the second place, several of Edward the Elder's daughters were married to royalty from the Continent. One daughter was married to Otto I of Germany, and another to Charles the Simple, the great-great-grandson of Karl the Great, so it certainly is plausible that Edward may have given a daughter named Tyra to Gorm, in an effort to secure peace between England and Denmark. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle mentions that the Danes in England submitted to Edward, and it is possible that there may have been a marriage alliance between Gorm and the English royal family.

In the third place, the late twelth-century historian - Saxo - tells us that Tyra was the daughter of an English king. (He calls her "the daughter of 'Ethelred'," but then one is tempted to wonder whether Saxo used 'Ethelred' as a title or generic term of all Enlish kings. Ethelred I lived too early to have been the father of Tyra, and Ethelred II came much too late.)

We feel that Saxo, a Dane, was more likely to have his Danish history straight than was Snorri, and Icelandic Norwegian. Saxo states that Tyra "surpassed other women in seriousness and shrewdness, and laid the condition on her suitor (Gorm) that she would not marry him till she had received Denmark as a dowry. The compact was made between them, and she was betrothed to Gorm."

Whatever her ancestry, Gorm's Christian wife seems to have been a kindly woman, and very popular with her subjects. But she was unable to convert her husband to Christianity, and he remained a staunch pagan until his dying day.

[Royal Families of Scandinavia, Flanders, and Kiev]

Thyra married Gorm "The Old" Haraldsson King Of DENMARK,662,2918,2922,3201,3254 son of Harald "Parcus" King Of Sjaelland DENMARK and Elfgifu Princess Of WESSEX, about 897 in Denmark. Gorm was born about 880 in Sjaelland Island, Denmark and died in 936 in Jellinge Vejle, Denmark 2918,3201 about age 56. Other names for Gorm were Gorm De Gamel, Gorm "The Old" Den GAMLE King Of Denmark, and Gorm "The Old" HARALDSSON King Of Denmark.

Thyra next married Geva KNUDSSON, son of Hardecanute (Knud) Sigurdsson King Of DENMARK and Elgiva, about 897 in Denmark. Geva was born before 850 in Denmark and died in 936 in Jellinge, Vejle, Denmark. Another name for Geva was Gorm Hardaknutsson.


1029681718438. Olaf "Mitkg" Bjornsson King Of SWEDEN,415,2918,3024,3047 son of Bjorn "The Old" Eriksson King Of SWEDEN and Ingeborg, was born in 885 in Sweden and died about 964 about age 79. Another name for Olaf was Olaf BJORNSSON.

General Notes:
On the throne in 850 during Ansgar's second visit to Sweden. Died suddenly during a banquet. [WBH - Sweden]

King of Sweden when Anskar made his second visit. Reconquered Kurland and made the Chori pay him tribute. He may not have been the only king in Sweden at this time. [A History of the Vikings, p. 78]

Co-king of Sweden; son of King Emund Erikson; father of:
1. Styrbjorn the Strong who m. Tyre of Denmark

[http://www.genealogy.com/~brigitte/thereoff/sweden.txt]

Received the missionary Ansgar in Birka 854. [Yvonne Korn <[email protected]]

Son of Bjorn'the Old' of Sweden Eriksson and Ingeborg; m. Ingeborg of Sula Thrandsdottir; father of:
1. Gyrid (Gunhilda Olafsson who m. Harald III 'Bluetooth' Gormsson and Herbastus de Crepon
2. Styrbiorn of Sweden Olafsson who m. Thyra Haraldsdottir. [Gary Lewis <[email protected], 21 dec 2001]

Olaf married Ingeborg Of Sula THRANDSDOTTIR. Ingeborg was born in 886 in Uppsala, Sweden and died in 932 at age 46.

1029681718439. Ingeborg Of Sula THRANDSDOTTIR,415 daughter of Thrand Of NORWAY and Unknown, was born in 886 in Uppsala, Sweden and died in 932 at age 46.

Ingeborg married Olaf "Mitkg" Bjornsson King Of SWEDEN 2918,3024.,3047 Olaf was born in 885 in Sweden and died about 964 about age 79. Another name for Olaf was Olaf BJORNSSON.

1029681718448. Domnall II (Donald II) King Of SCOTS,415,1416,3257 son of Constantine (Causantin) King Of SCOTS and Unknown, was born in 862 in Scotland and died in 900 in Forres, Morayshire, Scotland (Killed) 1416,3257 at age 38. Another name for Domnall was Donald II King Of SCOTLAND.

General Notes:
Donald II of Scotland (Domnall mac Causantín) was king of Scotland from 889 to 900. He was the son of King Constantine I and first cousin of the previous king Eochaid and of his successor Constantine II.

Donald took the throne of Scotland in battle as an act of revenge. King Giric I of Scotland (who ruled jointly with Donald's predecessor, Eochaid) had murdered Donald's uncle, Aed, in 878. Upon Giric's death, Donald expelled Eochaid from the country, thereby taking rulership of Scotland for himself.

It was under the rule of King Donald II that the British kingdom of Strathclyde came under Scottish dominance to create the Kingdom of Alba, thus being recognized in the Annals of Ulster as "ri Alban" as opposed to "rex Pixtorum," as his predecessors had been known. His reign coincided with renewed invasions by the Danes, who came less to plunder and more to occupy the lands bordering Scotland and the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms. The Danish had conquered all of northern Scotland through the leadership of 'Sigurd the Mighty'. Donald was also embroiled in efforts to reduce the Highland robber tribes.

Details of his death are obscure and uncertain. By one account he was slain at Dunnottar while meeting a Danish invasion; by another he died of infirmity brought on by his campaigns against the Highlanders, a natural death that is very uncommon in this period. He was buried on the Isle of Iona, the historic resting place of all Dalriadan and early Scottish kings. He was succeeded by his cousin Constantine II. His son, Malcolm, later became King Malcolm I of Scotland. 3258

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 889-900

Domnall married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859224       i.  Malcolm (Mael-Coluim) I King Of SCOTS (born in 897 in Scotland - died in 954 in Fetteresson, Kincardineshire, Scotland (Killed By Men Of Moray))


1029681719040. Erispoe Duke Of BRITTANY,415 son of Nominoe Duke Of BRITTANY and Unknown, was born about 800 in Brittany, France and died in November 857 about age 57.

Erispoe married.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Miss De BRITTANY was born about 825 in Brittany, France.

514840859520      ii.  Judicael (Juhel) I Comte De RENNES (born about 845 in Rennes, Ille-Et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France - died in 888)


1029681719044. Heinrich Of Thuringia, King Of AUSTRASIA Margrave In Friesland,415,505,1444,2553 son of Poppo I Count Of SAARGAU and Unknown, was born in 830 in Saargau, Bavaria, Germany, died on 28 August 886 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France (Slain In Battle) 2318,2550,2553,2556 at age 56, and was buried in St. Medard, Soissons.2318 Other names for Heinrich were Heinrich Margrave Of AUSTRASIA,1784 Heinrich, Margrave Of AUSTRASIA,2318 Heinrich, Dux AUSTRASIORUM, Heinrich, Margrave Of FRISIA, Heinrich Markgraf Of The NETHERLANDS,2550 Heinrich (Henry) Von SAARGAU, and Henry Of THURINGIA.

General Notes:
Most historians who accept this would derive the Popponid Babenburgs from Heinrich I von Babenburg, margrave in Friesland (Frisia), who was killed in battle near Paris on 20 August 886. His first wife was apparently an earlier Judith from the Unruoching family, daughter of the margrave Eberhard of Friuli and Gisela of Francia. Adalbert was the elder of two definite sons of this Heinrich and Judith, and was beheaded with his brother Adalhard at theres am Main on 9 September 906. Adalbert was possibly married (his wife is said to have been a Swabian lady named Brunhilda), but no children are recorded as far as I know. The only male-line descendants that are ascribed to his parents come through the _speculated_ relationship to count Heinrich, grandfather of the brothers Poppo, bishop of Würzburg and Heinrich, archbishop of Trier. Another _speculative_ sibling was Hadwig (b ca 953/5, died 24 December 903), first wife of Otto the Illustrious, duke of the Saxons, who of course has innumerable descendants. [Ref: Peter Stewart 30 Apr 2002]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 28 October 886. 1784,2550

Heinrich married Judith (Ingeltrude) Of FRIULI,1784,2553 daughter of Marquis Eberhard Marchese Di FRIULI (UNRUOCHINGER) and Gisela, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, in 1st Wife.2553 Judith was born about 837 in Friuli, Italy and died after 853. Other names for Judith were Judith Of FRIAUL, Judith De FRIOUL, Judith Waldrada Of FRIULI, Jutte Of FRIULI, Jeutte. Grafin Von SEULICHGAU, Jhutte Von SHULICHGAU, and Judith Of The SULICHGAU.

Heinrich next married Baba Of SPOLETO, daughter of Berenger King Of ITALY and Helletrude Princess Of ITALY, before 864 in 2ND Wife. Baba was born about 843 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy.

1029681719045. Judith (Ingeltrude) Of FRIULI,415,505,1444,1784,2553,2779 daughter of Marquis Eberhard Marchese Di FRIULI (UNRUOCHINGER) and Gisela, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, was born about 837 in Friuli, Italy and died after 853. Other names for Judith were Judith Of FRIAUL, Judith De FRIOUL, Judith Waldrada Of FRIULI, Jutte Of FRIULI, Jeutte. Grafin Von SEULICHGAU, Jhutte Von SHULICHGAU, and Judith Of The SULICHGAU.

General Notes:
His [Heinrich I von Babenburg's] first wife was apparently an earlier Judith from the Unruoching family, daughter of the margrave Eberhard of Friuli and Gisela of Francia. [Ref: Peter Stewart 30 Apr 2002]

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 2 April 840. 1784

Judith married Conrad II Welf, Markgrave Of TRANJURANIAN BURGUNDY 2539,2780 in 1st Husband. Conrad was born in 825 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France 1447 and died in 881 1447,2539 at age 56. Other names for Conrad were Conrad Ii, Count De AUXERRE, Konrad II Of AUXERRE, Konrad Ii, Count Of AUXERRE,2540 Conrad II Margrave Of TRANSJURANIA, Conrad Ii, and Duke Of TRANSURANAL BURGUNDY.

Judith next married Adalbert II Count In The Thurgau SCHERRAGAU,2232,2400 son of Adalbert I Count Of Rhaetias & THURGAU and Unknown, after 863 in 2ND Husband. Adalbert was born in 825 in Germany and died on 8 January 899 at age 74. Other names for Adalbert were Adalbert II Von RHATIEN, Adalbert Ii, and Count Of THURGOVIE.

Judith next married Heinrich Of Thuringia, King Of AUSTRASIA Margrave In Friesland,2553 son of Poppo I Count Of SAARGAU and Unknown, in 1st Wife.2553 Heinrich was born in 830 in Saargau, Bavaria, Germany, died on 28 August 886 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France (Slain In Battle) 2318,2550,2553,2556 at age 56, and was buried in St. Medard, Soissons.2318 Other names for Heinrich were Heinrich Margrave Of AUSTRASIA,1784 Heinrich, Margrave Of AUSTRASIA,2318 Heinrich, Dux AUSTRASIORUM, Heinrich, Margrave Of FRISIA, Heinrich Markgraf Of The NETHERLANDS,2550 Heinrich (Henry) Von SAARGAU, and Henry Of THURINGIA.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 28 October 886. 1784,2550

1029681719046. Gurwant De RENNES 415 was born about 825 in Rennes, France.

Gurwant married Miss De BRITTANY, daughter of Erispoe Duke Of BRITTANY and Unknown. Miss was born about 825 in Brittany, France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859523       i.  Miss De RENNES (born about 855 in Rennes, France)


1029681719047. Miss De BRITTANY,415 daughter of Erispoe Duke Of BRITTANY and Unknown, was born about 825 in Brittany, France.

Miss married Gurwant De RENNES. Gurwant was born about 825 in Rennes, France.

1029681719072. Eystein "The Chatterer" Ivarsson NORWAY Jarl Of The Upplands,415,1444,1601,1746,3259,3260 son of Ivar Halfdansson Oplaendinge, Jarl Of The UPLANDERS and Eysteinsdatter Of TRONDHEIM, was born about 810 in Of, Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway and died in 862 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway about age 52. Other names for Eystein were Eisten Glumru, Eystein Glumra=Eloquent Or Noisy Earl, Vors, Rystein, Earl Of MORE, and OPPLAND.

General Notes:
The following post by Curt Hofemann, [email protected], indicates the difficulty in "proving" anything about these early Scandinavian peope. Their ancestry is taken mostly from 12th century writers and old Sagas passed down through the centuries. The sagas, which probably contain some "truths", also contain a lot of fabulous stories about the lives of the early rulers. As the people of the period did not have writing, it is difficult to "prove" anything.

On the other hand, after just a few years of medieval genealogy, I can probably name all of the kings of England, from memory, starting with Edward the Confessor, which is almost a thousand year period; and that is without any concerted effort to memorize them; I could probably go back further if I tried. There is no reason to assume that the people of the 12th century were any less inaccurate in their oral tradition of keeping track of such things as the ancestry of the Scandinavian ruling families.

Thus I don't believe in throwing such people on the trash heap because, by circumstance, they had nothing written about them by themselves or by their contemporaries. I think that such people should be included, but with an understanding that their information is, by necessity, obtained in a different and less precise manner than other people in one's family pedigree.

By that token, you can divide them into "historical" figures proven by something written during their lifetime or soon after, and "legendary" figures, who I think probably did exist, but are only proven by sagas and oral traditions written down in the 12th century.

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Earl of More [Ref: Wurts p421]
Jarl of Hademerken [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p170]
Eynstein the Eloquent, or Noisy [Ref: Watney #740]

Research note: Eysteinn Glumra (of dubious historicity). Genealogies in late Icelandic sources make Rognvaldr a son of Eysteinn Glumra, son of Ívarr, son of Hálfdan the Old [OI 1: 187 (from Landnáamabók iv.14.1); OS 3]. These sources are not independent, but depend on each other in a way that is not entirely clear. Given the general unreliability of the Scandinavian saga sources for such an early period, there is no good reason to believe that Eysteinn or the earlier generations are historical. [Ref: Henry Project citing:

OI = Gudbrand Vigfusson and F. York Powell, ed. & trans., Origines Islandicae, 2 vols. (Oxford, 1905).
OS = OrkS = Hermann Pálsson and Paul Edwards, ed. & trans., Orkneyinga Saga (London, 1978). Citation is by chapter, with the page number in parentheses]

Regards,
Curt

Eystein married Countess Of Uppland Ascrida (Aseda) Rognvaldsdatter NORWAY 1601,2069 in 846 in Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway. Ascrida was born about 825 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway. Other names for Ascrida were Adends, Ascrida Rognvaldsson Of JUTLAND, Aseda Of JUTLAND, and Ascrida RAGNVALDSDOTTIR.

Children from this marriage were:

514840859536       i.  Rognvald "The Wise" Eysteinsson , Jarl Of MORE Jarl Of More (born about 840 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway - died in 890 in (Burned Alive With His Bodyguards In His Hall))

1029678607424      ii.  Malahule Ha EYSTEINSSON Jarl Of More (born about 845 in Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway - died after 890)

                 iii.  Huldrich TRESNEY was born about 855 in -, -, Norway and died after 911. Other names for Huldrich were Halduc, and Malahulc.

                  iv.  Sigurd I Riki EYSTEINSSON 2nd Jarl Of Orkney was born about 847 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway, died about 892 in Orkney Islands, Scotland (Of Blood Poisoning) 3072 about age 45, and was buried in Sydero, Dornoch Firth, Caithness, Scotland. Another name for Sigurd was 02nd Jarl Of ORKNEY Sigurd I Riki Eysteinsson.

                   v.  Earl Of Orkney Sigurd I "The Mighty" Eysteinsson NORWAY was born about 849 in Of, Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway, died in 874 in , , Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland about age 25, and was buried in Ekkialsbakki, Sydero, Dornoch Firth.

                  vi.  Swanhilda EYSTEINSDOTTIR was born about 855 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway.

                 vii.  Svanhild Eysteinsdatter NORWAY was born about 850 in , Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway.

                viii.  Turstan De BASTENBURG was born about 860 in Normandy, France.

                  ix.  Schwanhilde.

Eystein next married Princess Of Maer Jocunda HUNTHIOFSDATTER 1601 about 862 in Of, Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway. Jocunda was born in <Of, Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway> and died in Y.


1029681719073. Countess Of Uppland Ascrida (Aseda) Rognvaldsdatter NORWAY,415,1444,1601,1746,2069 daughter of Rognvald Olafsson Of AGDER and Tora SIGRUDSDOTTIR, was born about 825 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway. Other names for Ascrida were Adends, Ascrida Rognvaldsson Of JUTLAND, Aseda Of JUTLAND, and Ascrida RAGNVALDSDOTTIR.

Ascrida married Eystein "The Chatterer" Ivarsson NORWAY Jarl Of The Upplands 1601,3259,3260 in 846 in Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway. Eystein was born about 810 in Of, Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway and died in 862 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway about age 52. Other names for Eystein were Eisten Glumru, Eystein Glumra=Eloquent Or Noisy Earl, Vors, Rystein, Earl Of MORE, and OPPLAND.

1029681719074. Hrolf NEFJA (NEFIA) Sea King 415,1444,1601,1746,3071,3074 was born about 826 in Norway. Other names for Hrolf were Rollo, NEF JA, Rolf NEFIO, NEFJA, and Hrolf NEFJA.

Hrolf married Mrs-Hrolf NEFJA 1601 about 847 in Of, , , Norway. Mrs-Hrolf was born about 828 in Of, , , Norway and died in Y.

The child from this marriage was:

514840859537       i.  Countess Of More Hilda (Ragnhild) Hrolfsdatter NORWAY (born about 848 in Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland)


1029681719075. Mrs-Hrolf NEFJA 1601,1746 was born about 828 in Of, , , Norway and died in Y.

Mrs-Hrolf married Hrolf NEFJA (NEFIA) Sea King 1601,3071,3074 about 847 in Of, , , Norway. Hrolf was born about 826 in Norway. Other names for Hrolf were Rollo, NEF JA, Rolf NEFIO, NEFJA, and Hrolf NEFJA.

1029681719080. Pepin I, Count Of SENLIS, ST. QUENTIN, AND PERONNE,415,1011,1444,1601,1746,2773 son of Bernard I King Of ITALY and Cunigunde Of PARMA, was born in 817 in Vermandois, Normandy, France 1436,2321,2773,2774 and died after 840 in Milan, -, Italy 1436,2321,2773,2774. Other names for Pepin were Karlmann, Paepin, Pippin, Pepin Count Of PERONNE Count Near Paris,1784 Pepin, Count Of PERONNE,2774 Pepin II Count Of SENILIS, PERONNE AND ST. QUENTIN, Pepin Comte De VERMANDOIS, and Pepin De VERMANDOIS.

Pepin married Perrone Of VERMANDOIS.1601 Perrone was born about 830 in Of, , , France.

1029681719081. Perrone Of VERMANDOIS,1444,1601,1746 daughter of Theoderic, Count Of VERMANDOIS and Unknown, was born about 830 in Of, , , France.

Perrone married Pepin I, Count Of SENLIS, ST. QUENTIN, AND PERONNE 1011,1601.,2773 Pepin was born in 817 in Vermandois, Normandy, France 1436,2321,2773,2774 and died after 840 in Milan, -, Italy 1436,2321,2773,2774. Other names for Pepin were Karlmann, Paepin, Pippin, Pepin Count Of PERONNE Count Near Paris,1784 Pepin, Count Of PERONNE,2774 Pepin II Count Of SENILIS, PERONNE AND ST. QUENTIN, Pepin Comte De VERMANDOIS, and Pepin De VERMANDOIS.

1029681722432. Hrollaug (Hrollager) ROGNVALDSSON Of Eyiafiord,415,2253,3072 son of Rognvald "The Wise" Eysteinsson , Jarl Of MORE Jarl Of More and Early MISTRESS, was born about 859 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway and died in Eyiafiord, Iceland 3072.

Hrollaug married Emina.2253 Emina was born in 862 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway.

The child from this marriage was:

514840861216       i.  Rollo (Thurstan) Of MORE (born about 885 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway)


1029681722433. Emina 415,2253 was born in 862 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway.

Emina married Hrollaug (Hrollager) ROGNVALDSSON Of Eyiafiord,2253,3072 son of Rognvald "The Wise" Eysteinsson , Jarl Of MORE Jarl Of More and Early MISTRESS. Hrollaug was born about 859 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway and died in Eyiafiord, Iceland 3072.

1029681722434. Theobald I Gerlon, Viscount Of TROYES AND BLOIS,415,1444,2253,3159 son of Eudes Comte De CHARTRES and Miss De CHARTRES, was born about 885 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France 2742 and died before 954 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France 2742. Other names for Theobald were Gerlon, Thibaut The Elder Of BLOIS, Theobald I Of CHARTRES, Theobald De TOURS, and Theobald Vicomte De TOURS.

General Notes:
Ancestral Roots has a death date of 904 for Theobald. However the Encyclopaedia Britannica states that Theobald of Blois, who is his son, was b. circa 908; and Theobald defended Chartres against Rollo later Duke of Normandy in 911; so Ancestral Roots is either wrong or has a misprint. If a misprint, then either 914 or 940 is the more probable death date. His son became active in 940, so maybe that was when he died.

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The following is a copy of a post by Gayle Wilson to soc.genealogy.medieval:

From: Gayle Wilson ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Thibault I Count of Blois
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1997/03/11

Hi Jerry

Permit me to explain the story, as I understand it, primarily from J de Petigny and Professor Launay's Historie Archeologique Du Vendome, I, pages 121-122, Academie des Inscriptions et Belle Lettres Chartes et Diplomas: Receuil Des Actes De Charles III, page xx, and Pere Anselme's (Pierre Guibors) Histoire Genealogicue et Chronilogique des Rois de France, II, pages 33-34.

Theobald, Viscount of Troyes, married Richelde, the daughter of Hugh Aquitaine, Count of Bourges and his wife, Rothaut (the daughter of Charles II 'l'Chauve' ['The Bald'] King of France and Ricardis Buwinis Amiens, although some list her mother as Ermentrude Orleans, but that is topic for another day...) circa 886. As a result of this marriage, Theobald (Thiabald, Thiabault, etc) became guardian of Richelda's younger brother, Hugh, and was given the territories of Blois and Chartres in appreciation of this service. Shortly thereafter, a marauding band of Norman pirates, who had recently taken up residence on the banks of the Seine, attacked Chartres.

These brigands, led by a certain 'Rollon', were more than Theobald could handle on his own. Theobald sent messangers to his wife's cousin, King Charles III 'The Simple', Conrad, Duke of Bourgogne and Ebles, Count of Poiters, appealing for assistance. The castle had been under seige for some time, when Joscelin, Bishop of Chartres, perched within the castle ramparts, saw clouds of dust rising in several directions on the horizon. Help was on its way!

The counter-attack was led by King Charles; the Norsemen were forced to lift the seige. King Charles and the renegade Rollon, or Rolf, had a little chit-chat and a diploma thereafter referred to as the Treaty of Saint Clair-sur-Epte was eventually drawn up, including an agreement by Rollon to revert to Christianity and be a good boy with a tight leash held on his followers. For these concessions he was given the area that would later be called Normandy to govern, and the hand of the fair Princess, Giselle, daughter of King Charles.

So, you can see that there is a little glimmer of credence to the information you were given. Giselle, the wife of Rollo, was cousin to Richelde, the wife of *a* Theobald of Blois. This person is the father of the Theobald in your query, Theobald I 'le Tricheur' (The Cheater) Count of Blois, who was indeed husband of Luitgarde Vermandois and father of Eudes (Actes de Comtes De Namur 946-1196 (Rousseau) XXXVII; House Tirel 80; Vanderkindere79-86; Pere Anselme I 49; Derniers Carlovingniens 141; Histoire de Cambray et Cambresis III 970; Histoire Archeologique Du Vendomois 147...etc). Hope this helps.

May your roses always bloom in the Son,

Gayle Wilson

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 904. 3159

Theobald married Richilde Of BOURGES.3159 Richilde was born about 892 in Bourges, Cher, Berry/Centre, France.2742

1029681722435. Richilde Of BOURGES,415,1444,3159 daughter of Hugh Count Of BOURGES and Rothaut Princess Of FRANCE, was born about 892 in Bourges, Cher, Berry/Centre, France.2742

Richilde married Theobald I Gerlon, Viscount Of TROYES AND BLOIS 2253.,3159 Theobald was born about 885 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France 2742 and died before 954 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France 2742. Other names for Theobald were Gerlon, Thibaut The Elder Of BLOIS, Theobald I Of CHARTRES, Theobald De TOURS, and Theobald Vicomte De TOURS.

1029681722576. Leofric II Of MERCIA,415,2939 son of Alfgar II Ealdorman Of LEICESTER and Unknown, was born before 871 in Mercia, England.2939

Leofric married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840861288       i.  Edulph Of MERCIA (born about 905 in Mercia, England)


1029681722578. Ethelred Duke Of MERCIA 415,1601,1746,3253 was born about 865 in Mercia, , England and died in 912 about age 47.

Ethelred married Aethelflaed Of WESSEX Queen Of Mercia,1601,3253 daughter of Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI. Aethelflaed was born in 869 in Wessex, Wessex, England,378 died on 12 June 918 in , St. Peters, Gloucestershire, England 3065,3253 at age 49, and was buried in St. Peters, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England. Other names for Aethelflaed were Ethelfleda, Lady Of The Mercians, and Æthelfled Of WESSEX.

The child from this marriage was:

514840861289       i.  Elfwina Of MERCIA (born in 905 in Mercia, England)




1029681722579. Aethelflaed Of WESSEX Queen Of Mercia,415,1444,1601,1746,3253 daughter of Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI, was born in 869 in Wessex, Wessex, England,378 died on 12 June 918 in , St. Peters, Gloucestershire, England 3065,3253 at age 49, and was buried in St. Peters, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England. Other names for Aethelflaed were Ethelfleda, Lady Of The Mercians, and Æthelfled Of WESSEX.

General Notes:
Also known as Aethelflaeda, she was daughter of King Alfred, she married a nobleman, Ethelred, ruler of West Mercia, and governed jointly with him until his death in 911, being effective ruler some years before this, and then continued to rule in her own name. A shrewd commander, her deployment of the local armies helped her brother Edward, King of Wessex, to dominate the Viking forces in eastern England. She fortified strategic camps, repairing the walls of Chester and developing fortresses such as Warwick and Stafford which also became important centers of trade. She created around her a remarkable military household which she totally dominated. In 917 she and Edward began a major attack on the Danes and she led her army to the conquest of Derby and Leicester. At the time of Aethelflaed's death, in Tamworth, she was planning campaigns further north and had already won the allegiance of York, and she had also won authority over parts of Wales, and Northumbria. Succeeded by daughter, but in 919 Edward took over her kingdom. 1741

Aethelflaed married Ethelred Duke Of MERCIA 1601.,3253 Ethelred was born about 865 in Mercia, , England and died in 912 about age 47.

1029681722608. Charles De COURCY,415 son of Charles III "The Simple" King Of FRANCE and Queen Of Franks Eadgifu Princess Of ENGLAND, was born about 925 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France.

Charles married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840861304       i.  Wigelius De COURCY (born in 952 in Courcy, Ardennes, Champagne, France)


1029681724232. Giselbert I Count Of MAASGAU,415,1444,1784,3261,3262 son of Gainfroi Count Of SENS and Theidlindis Of BLOIS, was born after 795 in Maasgau, Meuse Valley, Austrasia Now Belgium and died in 842 3262. Another name for Giselbert was Giselbert I Of MASGAU.

General Notes: 839-842 Count in the Massgau. [Ancestral Roots]

Giselbert married Bertswinda De HESBAYE 3261.,3262 Bertswinda was born about 810 in Hesbaye, Liege, Belgium.

The child from this marriage was:

514840862116       i.  Giselbert II Count Of MAASGAU (born about 830 in Maasgau, Meuse Valley, Austrasia Now Belgium - died after 885)


1029681724233. Bertswinda De HESBAYE 415,1444,3261,3262 was born about 810 in Hesbaye, Liege, Belgium.

Bertswinda married Giselbert I Count Of MAASGAU,1784,3262 son of Gainfroi Count Of SENS and Theidlindis Of BLOIS. Giselbert was born after 795 in Maasgau, Meuse Valley, Austrasia Now Belgium and died in 842 3262. Another name for Giselbert was Giselbert I Of MASGAU.


1029681724234. King Of Italy Lothaire I Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,2768,3075,3129,3263,3264 son of Louis I "The Pious" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE Calolingian and Ermengarde De HESBAYE, was born in 795 in Altdorf, Bavaria, France,1436,2768,3129 died on 29 September 855 in Abbey Of Pruem, Eifel, Rheinland, Prussia 1447,2321,2768,3129 at age 60, and was buried in St Sauveur, Manche, Normandie, France. Other names for Lothaire were Lothair I King Of GERMANY, Lothar I, Konge Av ITALIA, Lothaire I De Germanie, Empereur D' OCCIDENT, Lothair I, and Emperor Of The WEST.2768

General Notes: Holy Roman emperor (840-55), and eldest son of Holy Roman Emperor Louis I, the Pious, and grandson of Charlemagne. Lothair became coruler with his father in 817 and was crowned by the pope six years later. He twice conspired with his brothers in revolts against their father. In 839 Lothair received the eastern part of the empire in addition to Italy, which he had received in 822. After the death of Louis I, Lothair attempted to assert his power over his brothers, but he was defeated by them at Fontenoy, France, on June 25, 841. By the Treaty of Verdun (843), the title of Holy Roman emperor was guaranteed to Lothair, together with sovereignty over Italy, Burgundy, Alsace, Lorraine, and the Low Countries. After having divided his kingdom among his three sons, Lothair retired to a monastery. His second son, sometimes called Lothair II (circa 835-69), reigned from 855 to 869 over the kingdom of Lotharingia.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 843-855.

Lothaire married Empress Of Holy Roman Emp Ermengarde De TOURS,1601,1784,2772,3263 daughter of Hugues III Count Of Upper ALSACE and Ava Countess Of Upper ALSACE, on 15 October 821 in , Thionville, Moselle, France 2321,2768,2772,3126.,3265 Ermengarde was born about 800 in Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France, died from 20 March 850 to 851 1447,2768,2772 about age 50, and was buried in Abbaye D'erstein, Strasbourg, Alsace, France. Other names for Ermengarde were Irmgard, Irmengarde Of ALSACE, and Ermengarde Of ORLÉANS.2768

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  King Of The Lombards Louis II Emperor Of The West HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born about 825 in , , Alsace-Lorraine, Austrasia,3081 died on 31 August 875 near Brescia, Lombardy, Italy 902,3081 about age 50, and was buried in St Ambroise, Milano, Milano, Italy. Other names for Louis were Louis "Le Jeune," Ludwig Ii, and Konge Av ITALIA.

                  ii.  Princess Valtrude HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 820 in <, , Alsace-Lorraine, France> and died in Y.

                 iii.  Helletrude Princess Of ITALY was born about 830 in Alsace, Lorraine, France.

                  iv.  Lothar II The Saxon, King Of LORRAINE was born in 827 in Alsace, Lorraine, France 2776,3266 and died on 8 August 869 in Piacenza, Italy 2151,2776,3267,3268 at age 42. Other names for Lothar were Lothaire II The Saxon, King Of LORRAINE, Lothaire Ii, King From The Carolingian Median Kingdom Of LOTHARINGIA, Lothaire II De Germanie, and Roi De LOTHARINGIE.

                   v.  Charles King Of PROVENCE was born about 828 in , , Alsace-Lorraine, France and died on 24 June 863 about age 35.

514840862117      vi.  Irmengarde De LORRAINE (born about 827 in Alsace, Lorraine, France - died in 864)

                 vii.  Ermengarde (Irmgard) Duchess MOSELLE (MAASGAU) was born about 832 in Alsace, Lorraine, France and died in Y.

                viii.  Rotrud Princess Of ITALY was born in 833 in , , Alsace-Lorraine, France and died in Y.

                  ix.  Nun Gisle Princess Of ITALY was born about 834 in , , Alsace-Lorraine, France and died on 28 May 861 about age 27.

Lothaire next married Dode Queen Of ITALY 1601 about 815 in Unmarried. Dode was born in <Altdorf, Bavaria, France>.


1029681724235. Empress Of Holy Roman Emp Ermengarde De TOURS,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,2772,3263 daughter of Hugues III Count Of Upper ALSACE and Ava Countess Of Upper ALSACE, was born about 800 in Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France, died from 20 March 850 to 851 1447,2768,2772 about age 50, and was buried in Abbaye D'erstein, Strasbourg, Alsace, France. Other names for Ermengarde were Irmgard, Irmengarde Of ALSACE, and Ermengarde Of ORLÉANS.2768

Ermengarde married King Of Italy Lothaire I Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,1601,1784,3129,3263,3264 son of Louis I "The Pious" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE Calolingian and Ermengarde De HESBAYE, on 15 October 821 in , Thionville, Moselle, France 2321,2768,2772,3126.,3265 Lothaire was born in 795 in Altdorf, Bavaria, France,1436,2768,3129 died on 29 September 855 in Abbey Of Pruem, Eifel, Rheinland, Prussia 1447,2321,2768,3129 at age 60, and was buried in St Sauveur, Manche, Normandie, France. Other names for Lothaire were Lothair I King Of GERMANY, Lothar I, Konge Av ITALIA, Lothaire I De Germanie, Empereur D' OCCIDENT, Lothair I, and Emperor Of The WEST.2768

1029681724236. Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,2112,2948,2951,3132,3134,3230 son of Louis I "The Pious" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE Calolingian and Empress Of Holy Roman Emp Judith Altdorf The Fair, Princess Of BAVARIA, was born on 15 May 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia,3132,3133,3134 died on 6 October 877 in Brides-Les-Bains, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France 3132,3133,3134 at age 54, and was buried in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France. Other names for Charles were Charles II "The Bald" King Of FRANCE, Charles Ii, King De FRANCE,3135 Charles Ii, and King De FRANCEAKA.3133

General Notes:
(Andre Roux: Scrolls,191.)
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-39.)
(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 180.)
(Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)
(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Pages 369, 387).

AKA: Charles II, Emperor of the West. AKA: Charles II, King de Bourgogne. AKA: Charles II, King of Italy. Also Known As: Charles "Le Chauve".

Born: on 13 Jun 823 in Francfort-sur-le-Main, Germany, son of Louis I, King de France and Judith de Baviere , Some sources assert King Charles II was born in the year 829.

Note - between 824 and 875 in France: The birth of Charles II in 823 did not at first excite jealousy or rivalry among his brothers. In 829, Charles was granted the region of Alemannia, Rhaetia and part of Burgundy. In 837, his Father Louis I "Le Debonnaire", by arrangement with Louis the German and Pepin gave Charles the land West of the Meuse, Burgundy, Chartres and Paris together with all the bishops, abbots and counts who held benefices in these territories. A portion of Neustria was added in 838, and upon Pepin's death, Louis Le Pieux made Charles King of Aquitaine. On 24 July 840, the new Emperor, Lothar, in Strasburg, refuses to support the land claims of Charles (from the agreement of Worms on 30 May 839). The two brothers, Louis and Charles, unite against Lothar and the War of the Three Brothers begins. Meanwhile, on 12 May 841, the Normands ravage Rouen and all the localities along the Seine, increasing their wealth considerably. At Fontenoy-en-Puisaye (24 June 841), Charles defeats his brothers Lothar (in spite of the arrival of the Army of Aquitaine in the Imperial ranks -- and at a total loss of 40,000 lives at the battle) and Louis Le Germanique. Charles and Louis signed an alliance on 14 February 842 at Strasbourg. Leaving Strasbourg, the two brothers defeat the imperial army of Lothar just West of Comblence. Lothar leaves Aix-le-Chapelle precipitously, pursued by the two brothers. In Mellecey, not far from Chalon-sur-Saone, Lothar proposes a plan to establish perpetual peace which is acceptable to both Louis and Charles. On 15 June, they sign the preliminary peace document. On 1 October 842, each of them sends 40 commissioners to Metz to forge the official document. Prudence, the Bishop of Troyes, notes that Louis regained Germania in the East, Lothar gets the middle part of the Franc Kingdom, including Italy, and Charles obtains the Western lands (West of the Rhone, including Soissons). After that Charles goes to the Palace in Quierzy, where he marries Ermentrude.

Charles signed the Treaty of Verdun (843) which split the Kingdom of Charlemagne. By the Treaty, the destiny of Occidental Europe would be heavily influenced to this day. Louis obtains all lands East of the Rhine, including the cities of Spire, Worms, Mayence. Lothar gets all the lands extending between the Rhine and the Escaut, the Cambresis, the Hainaut, the country of Mezieres, and all the countships neighboring the Meuse, through the Saone and the Rhone, the Artois and Italy. Charles got all the lands East all the way to Spain. The Kingdom of Charlemagne thus was split forever, with the most serious rift between the germanic lands of Louis, and the French lands of Charles. The intervening lands extending from Frisia to Rome, from the North Sea to the Mediterranean including what would become Holland, Belgium, Lorraine and Switzerland would become a sore point of contention between these two peoples. The only thing that mattered to Lothar was the fact that both capitals (Aix and Rome) were located within his territory, thus legitimizing the title of Emperor.

Meanwhile, the Normands pillage Nantes and lower Aquitaine. Charles laid siege to Toulouse in vain (May to July 844). The Normands led by Ragnar Lodbrog arrive in Paris and must be heavily bribed to leave. Other Normand armies ravage Toulouse and Bordeaux (burned to the ground in 848). On 6 May 848, Duke Nomenoe proclaims the indepence of the Church of Bretagne and the following year proclaims himself King of Bretagne. Charles fought Brittany (Bretagne) in 845-851 and was victorious. Not liking Pepin II, the people of Aquitaine request Charles' help, and he obliges by accepting the Crown, and on 6 June 848 is consecrated King of Aquitaine, though he could not defend his kingdom against the Normands. He had Charles of Aquitaine jailed (849 in Corbie). In 850 Charles attacks Bretagne and leaves a garrison in Rennes. No sooner does he leave, that Nomenoe takes the city and then takes Nantes as well. The next year, Nomenoe ravages Maine, but, fortunately for Charles, the King of Bretagne dies suddenly on 7 March in Vendome. Charles has Pepin II locked in the Monastery of Saint-Medard de Soissons in 852. The Normands under Godfrid pillage Tours and Angers and penetrate via the Valley of Escaut all the way to the Seine. The loyalty of Aquitaine shifts in 853, and Louis the German is called upon to help against Charles le Chauve. He in turn defeats Louis and offers Aquitaine his son by Ermentrude, Charles, who would be crowned sovereign in Limoges in October 855. Both Pepin II and Charles d'Aquitaine escape raise armies against Charles le Chauve. Charles fought against Louis for Lorraine (859, 870 [Treaty of Mersen] and 875).

When Louis le Germanique becomes ill in 869 near Rastisbonne, shortly after his nephew Lothar II died, Charles see the opportunity to claim his heritage as Uncle of the deceased. He has himself annointed King of Lorraine in Metz on 9 September, by the Bishop Hincmar. In March, 867, Charles d'Aquitaine dies, and his father Charles le Chauve is recognized as King by the Assembly in Pouilly-sur-Loire. Upon the death of his nephew, Lothar II on 8 August 869, Charles sped to Lotharingia and had himself crowned King of Lotharingia annointed on 9 September in the cathedral at Metz by Bishop Adventius of Metz and Archbishop Hincmar of Rheims. In 9 August 870, through the Treaty of Meerseen, Louis "Le Germanique" and Charles "Le Chauve" reach an agreeable compromise whereby they divide the lands of Lothar II between themselves, leaving Louis II no part of the inheritance. As soon as Louis II died on 12 August 875, Charles rushed to Italy and received the imperial crown and is annointed by Pope John VIII on 25 December 875. In Pavia on 5 January 876, by acclamation of the counts and nobles of Italy, Charles becomes King of Italy. On 31 January 876, the Archbishop of Milan proclaims Charles as Emperor. The French ecclesiasticals and nobles, having some misgivings about Charles' ability to take care of his Kingdom meet in Ponthion. Charles joins them dressed in the attire of the Frankish King. As soon as they declare him elected and recognize his imperial authority, Charles donned the Byzantine crown, and purple vestment of emperor. When Louis le Germanique dies on 28 August 876, Charles claims Lorraine as his own. While on an expedition in Italy against the Sarrasins, through the specific request of Pope Jean VIII, Charles le Chauve dies at the foot of Mount Cenis.

Married on 13 Dec 842 in Quierzy-sur-Oise, Aisne, Ile-de-France, France: Ermentrude d'Orleans , daughter of Odon=Eudes, Count d'Orleans and Ingeltrude de Paris; Ermentrude was crowned Queen of France in 866, having already produced a number of children including 6 sons but none of them was satisfactory as far as Charles Le Chauve was concerned. By September 866, four of them were dead.

Married on 25 Nov 869 in Aix-la-Chapelle, France: Richilde de Bourgogne, daughter of Beuve=Bouin, Comte de Bourgogne and Richilde d'Arles; The honeymoon is short-lived, as Louis le Germanique demands, as part of his heritage from the death of his nephew Lothar II, a part of Lorraine. Died: on 6 Oct 877 in Avrieux, Dauphine, France, at age 54 Charles II is buried at Saint Denis although originally he was buried in Nantua. Before expiring, he named his son, Louis Le Begue as his successor, and the Empress Richilde, crowned by Pope Jean VIII earlier that year, is charged with taking the royal garbs and sword to her step-son.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 875-877.

Charles married Queen Of The West Franks Ermentrude D' ORLEANS 1601,1784,2112,3231 on 14 December 842 in Crecy, France 3135.,3231 Ermentrude was born on 27 September 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,2147,3133 died on 6 October 869 in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France 3133,3231 at age 39, and was buried in St Denis, Aude, France. Another name for Ermentrude was Hermentrude.

Charles next married Richaut Of METZ,3134 daughter of Budwine (Bouin\Beuvesde) Count Of Italy & METZ and Richilde Of ARLES, on 25 November 870.3134 Richaut was born about 845 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France.

Charles next married Queen Of The West Franks Richilde Countess Of METZ (ARDENNES) 1601 from 22 January 869 to 870 in Aix La Chapelle, , France. Richilde was born in <Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia> and died in Y.

Charles next married Richildis Of The WEST FRANKS,3134 daughter of Budwine (Bouin\Beuvesde) Count Of Italy & METZ and Richilde Of ARLES, on 25 November 870 1436.,3134 Richildis was born about 850 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France. Another name for Richildis was Richilde.

1029681724237. Queen Of The West Franks Ermentrude D' ORLEANS,415,1444,1601,1746,1784,2112,3231 daughter of Odo (Eudes) I Comte D' ORLEANS and Countess Of Orleans INGELTRUDE, was born on 27 September 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,2147,3133 died on 6 October 869 in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France 3133,3231 at age 39, and was buried in St Denis, Aude, France. Another name for Ermentrude was Hermentrude.

Ermentrude married Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601,1784,2112,3132,3134 on 14 December 842 in Crecy, France 3135.,3231 Charles was born on 15 May 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia,3132,3133,3134 died on 6 October 877 in Brides-Les-Bains, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France 3132,3133,3134 at age 54, and was buried in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France. Other names for Charles were Charles II "The Bald" King Of FRANCE, Charles Ii, King De FRANCE,3135 Charles Ii, and King De FRANCEAKA.3133

1029681724238. Bego (Beggo\Beggen) II Count Of PARIS,415,1444,1784,3085,3088 son of Eberhard Count Of PARIS and Unknown, was born about 822 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died after 23 April 861 3088,3269.

General Notes: There may be two different people with similar names and wives, which even Ancestral Roots gets confused. This one (AR line 143-16), who d. 961, is proposed as father of Adelaide of Paris by Ancestral Roots referring to Brandenburg as a source. Then under the other one (AR line 191-14), who d. 916, AR states Begue's wife was Aupals (Alpais), natural daughter of Charlemagne, but that Brandenburg shows her a daughter of Louis I, "the Fair". A daughter of Louis I makes sense as wife of this Bego (d. 961), not the one who d. in 916.

Thus I use the reference for the other Begue's wife as a source for this Bego's wife. Of course they could be the same person, but Adelaide's dates would have to change dramatically if that were true.

Bego married Alpaide Princess Of FRANCE,3085,3270 daughter of Louis I "The Pious" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE Calolingian and Empress Of Holy Roman Emp Judith Altdorf The Fair, Princess Of BAVARIA. Alpaide was born about 825 in France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840862119       i.  Adelaide Judith De PARIS (born about 850 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France - died about 10 November 901)


1029681724239. Alpaide Princess Of FRANCE,415,505,3085,3270 daughter of Louis I "The Pious" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE Calolingian and Empress Of Holy Roman Emp Judith Altdorf The Fair, Princess Of BAVARIA, was born about 825 in France.

Alpaide married Bego (Beggo\Beggen) II Count Of PARIS,1784,3085,3088 son of Eberhard Count Of PARIS and Unknown. Bego was born about 822 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died after 23 April 861 3088,3269.

1029681724240. Eberhard II Count Of LOWER-ALSACE,415,2755 son of Eberhard I Count Of LOWER-ALSACE and Elisabeth De LUNEVILLE, was born before 777 in Alsace, France and died in 864 2755. Another name for Eberhard was Eberhard II Count Of NORDGAU.

General Notes: Obviously this guy had a pretty long life, and had a son at the age of 76. Turton has all the dates pretty well locked in. There may have been an extra generation (or two) at this point.

Eberhard married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840862120       i.  Eberhard III Count Of LOWER-ALSACE (born in 853 in Alsace, France - died in 920)


1029681724242. Pépin II Count Of SENLIS [& Bretagne],415,1011,1601,1746 son of Pepin I, Count Of SENLIS, ST. QUENTIN, AND PERONNE and Perrone Of VERMANDOIS, was born about 846 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France and died from after 28 January 892 to 893 in Senlis, Oise, Picardy, France 1011. Another name for Pépin was Pepin I De VERMANDOIS Comte De Senlis.

Pépin married.

1029681724248. Adalbert II (Adalhard) Count Von METZ,415,2755 son of Adalhard I Count Von METZ and Unknown, was born about 835 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France and died after 882 2539.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, Bef 890.

Adalbert married Miss Von EIFELGAU. Miss was born about 845 in Eifel, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany.

The child from this marriage was:

514840862124       i.  Gerhard I Count Von METZ (born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France - died on 24 June 910 in (Slain In Battle))


1029681724249. Miss Von EIFELGAU,415 daughter of Matfried II Count Von EIFELGAU and Unknown, was born about 845 in Eifel, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany.

Miss married Adalbert II (Adalhard) Count Von METZ.2755 Adalbert was born about 835 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France and died after 882 2539.

1029681724250. Count In South Thuringia Otto "The Illustrious" Duke Of SAXONY,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,2550,2551 son of Ludolph Duke Of SAXONY and Oda Billung Of THURINGIA, was born about 836 in Saxony, Germany 2550 and died on 30 November 912 2550,2552 about age 76. Other names for Otto were Otto Of ERLAUCHTEN, Otto Von ERLAUCHTEN, Otton I L'illustre, Herzog Von SACHSEN, and Otto Le Grand Of SAXONY.

General Notes:
Otto, the Illustrious, b. c836, d. 30 Nov 912, Duke of Saxony; m. Hedwig, d. 24 Dec 903. ('Charlemagne & His World (Heer), p. 226, shows Otto's wife as dau. (illeg.) of Arnulf, King of Germany, Emperor c863-99, & Oda of Bavaria; Arnulf was son of Carolman, King of Bavaria (c828-80) & Litwinde; Carloman was son of Louis II "the German", King of the East Franks (c805-76) and Emma of Bavaria. Louis was son of Louis I "the Fair". See Brandenburg for Arnulf's ancestry, however, Brandenburg shows no such daughter for Arnulf. Isenburg shows Hedwig as daughter of Henri, Comte de la Marche. Moriarty says Hedwig d. 24 Dec 903, does not identify parents.).

Otto may NOT have married both wives, as they appear to be two different alternative wives with different ancestry. But I followed the Hadwig von Babenberg line from Bernd Josef Jansen, World Connect db=bernd-jansen, so I am making her the 1st wife, and Hedwig of Germany as the 2nd wife.

Note: Peter Stewart, in criticizing the accuracy of Stuart's 'Royal for Commoners' points out that RFC names him Otto of Erlauchten (as if it is a place), whereas his name is Otto I "der Erlauchte" (German for "Illustrious").

Otto married Hathui Duchess Of SAXONY 1601 in 869 in <Of, , , Saxony>. Hathui was born in 855 in Of, , , Saxony and died in 906 at age 51.

Otto next married Empress Hedwige HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601,1784,2550,2553 after 876 in 2ND Wife ? 2318.,2553 Hedwige was born in 856 in , , Germany 2553 and died on 24 December 903 1447,2550,2553,2554 at age 47. Other names for Hedwige were Hadui, Haduich, Hadwig, Hudui, Hadui Von FRANKENAU, Edwige De La MARCHE, Hathui, Duchess Of SAXONY, and Hathumoda Princess Of SAXONY.

Otto next married Hedwig Princess Of GERMANY,2550 daughter of Unknown and Unknown, after 876 in 2ND Wife ?. Hedwig was born about 860 in Germany and died on 24 December 903 2550 about age 43. Another name for Hedwig was Hathumoda Princess Of SAXONY.

1029681724251. Empress Hedwige HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,2550,2553,2555,2556 daughter of Heinrich Of Thuringia, King Of AUSTRASIA Margrave In Friesland and Judith (Ingeltrude) Of FRIULI, was born in 856 in , , Germany 2553 and died on 24 December 903 1447,2550,2553,2554 at age 47. Other names for Hedwige were Hadui, Haduich, Hadwig, Hudui, Hadui Von FRANKENAU, Edwige De La MARCHE, Hathui, Duchess Of SAXONY, and Hathumoda Princess Of SAXONY.

Hedwige married Count In South Thuringia Otto "The Illustrious" Duke Of SAXONY 1601,1784,2550,2551 after 876 in 2ND Wife ? 2318.,2553 Otto was born about 836 in Saxony, Germany 2550 and died on 30 November 912 2550,2552 about age 76. Other names for Otto were Otto Of ERLAUCHTEN, Otto Von ERLAUCHTEN, Otton I L'illustre, Herzog Von SACHSEN, and Otto Le Grand Of SAXONY.

1029681724252. Rainier Comte De SAUNDIS,415,2539 son of Arnoul III Comte De CHAUMONOIS and Unknown, was born about 810 in Chaumont, Haute-Marne, Champagne, France and died in Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France. Another name for Rainier was Rainier Comte De SAUNIS.

Rainier married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840862126       i.  Voiry Comte D' ARDENNES (born about 840 in Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France - died in 918 in Aachen (Aix-La-Chapelle), Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany)


1029681724256. Gebhard Count Of NIEDERLANDGAU,415,1601,1746,1784 son of Odo (Eudes) I Comte D' ORLEANS and Countess Of Orleans INGELTRUDE, was born in 826 in Lahn River Valley, Hesse, Germany and died in 879 at age 53. Another name for Gebhard was Gebhard Count Of LAHNGAU.

General Notes: Alan Wilson has Gebhard as son of "Udo Count in the Lahngau", who I believe to be the same person as "Eudes Count of Orleans".

Gebhard married Daughter Of Hunroch Of FRIULI,1784,3271 daughter of Conte Unroch (Hunroch) I Margrave Of FRIULI and Engeltron Of PARIS. Daughter was born about 830 in Friuli, Italy.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Eberhard Count Of Lower LAHNGAU was born in 863 in Of, Lahngau, Hessen-Nassau, Germany and died in 902 in Bamberg, Bavaria, Germany 1784 at age 39. Another name for Eberhard was Eberhard Count Of NIEDERLANDGAU.2952

514840862128      ii.  Duke Of Lorraine Gebhard Count Of WETTERAU (born in 866 in Wetter River Valley, Hesse, Germany - died on 22 June 910)

                 iii.  Rudolf Bishop Of WURZBURG was born in 869 in Of, Lahngau, Hessen-Nassau, Germany and died in 908 in , Wurzburg, Unterfranken, Bavaria at age 39.


1029681724257. Daughter Of Hunroch Of FRIULI,415,505,1784,3271 daughter of Conte Unroch (Hunroch) I Margrave Of FRIULI and Engeltron Of PARIS, was born about 830 in Friuli, Italy.

Daughter married Gebhard Count Of NIEDERLANDGAU,1601,1784 son of Odo (Eudes) I Comte D' ORLEANS and Countess Of Orleans INGELTRUDE. Gebhard was born in 826 in Lahn River Valley, Hesse, Germany and died in 879 at age 53. Another name for Gebhard was Gebhard Count Of LAHNGAU.

Daughter next married Gebhard Count Of LOGENAHE,3271 son of Eberhard Count Of PARIS and Unknown. Gebhard was born about 820 in Logenahe, Germany and died in 860 3271 about age 40.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 832-860.


1029681724268. Ulrich IV Count Of Argengau & LINZGAU 415,1784 was born about 845 in Argengau, Switzerland and died in 893 about age 48. Another name for Ulrich was Ulrich IV Count Of ARGENGAU & Linzgau.

Ulrich married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840862134       i.  Ulrich V Count Of ARGENGAU (born about 870 in Argengau, Switzerland - died after 909 in Zurich, Switzerland)


1029681724270. Liudolf Of SAXONY,415 son of Count In South Thuringia Otto "The Illustrious" Duke Of SAXONY and Empress Hedwige HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, was born about 878 in Saxony, Germany. Another name for Liudolf was Liudolf Von SACHSEN.

Liudolf married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840862135       i.  Wendelgarde Of SAXONY (born about 895 in Saxony, Germany)


1029681724284. Louis II "The Stammerer" King Of FRANKS,415,1109,1444,1601,1746,3081 son of Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Queen Of The West Franks Ermentrude D' ORLEANS, was born on 1 November 846 in France 3081,3082 and died on 10 April 879 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-DE-France, France 3081,3082,3083 at age 32. Another name for Louis was Louis II Le Bègue Carolingien, Roi D' AQUITAINE.

General Notes:
There is a lot of confusion as to the order of Louis' wives; whether they were legitimate marriages; and which was the mother of his various children. For example Ancestral Roots, in line 143-16 states that Adelaide of Paris is the 3rd wife, while in line 148-16, AR states that Adelaide was the 2nd wife. I am following line 143 (3rd wife), which makes her the last wife, and obviously mother of Charles III, since he was born posthumously.

(Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.)
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-38.)
(Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)
(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 258.)
(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387).

Louis II, King de France (the Stammerer) AKA: Louis II, King d'Aquitaine. Also Known As: Louis "Le Begue".

Born: in Nov 846 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France, son of Charles II, King de France and Ermentrude d'Orleans . Married in 862: Ansgarde de Bourgogne , daughter of Hardouin, Count de Bourgogne; She was given in marriage to Louis by her brother, Odon, often confused with Odon, Count of Troyes, an older man and one of Louis' detractors (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 185). Note - between 867 and 879: Louis II was the King of Aquitaine from 867 to 879 and became King of France in 877, crowned at Compiegne by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims on 8 October. If the children and grandchildren of Charlemagne had an easy time ascending to the throne by virtue of their parentage, the same is not true for Louis. Louis had to be elected by the Greats - the nobles whose power had been growing steadily - and they conceded only after having received countships and additional powers. Moreover, Louis had to accept the tutelage of his maternal uncle, Hughes, Marquis of Neustria who also received the countship of Tours. He died 16 months later while making preparations to reprimand Bernard, Duke of Septimanie. Upon his death, nobles, looking to enhance their own power saw the kingdom partitioned between Louis III and Carloman, who were both crowned and anointed at Ferrieres in September 879 by Ansegis, Archbishop of Sens. Louis III's portion comprised Francia and Neustria, and Carloman ruled Burgundy, Aquitaine and Gothia.

Married between 868 and 869: Adelaide=Adelheid de Paris, daughter of Adalhard, Count de Paris. [Note: I have differenty ancestry for Adelaide, see notes under Adelaide]

Died: on 11 Apr 879 in France at age 32 Louis II died sooner than expected after having divided his kingdom between his two sons, Louis III and Carloman. To the older son went Francia and Neustria; and to the younger went Bourgogne, Aquitaine and the Marche of Spain. This creation of two kingdoms is highly disputed because the two sons are not viewed by some as legitimate because Charles le Chauve had not officially recognized Louis marriage to Ansgarde. Louis was not favored, and on 15 October 879, Provence and Bourgogne recognize Richilde's (Charles le Chauve's widow) brother, Bozon. Moreover, Louis, son of Louis le Germanique, also lays claim to the throne of France. Thus, to make matters rather complicated there exists three kings of France at this time.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 877-879.

Louis married Luitgarde Of SAXONY, daughter of Ludolph Duke Of SAXONY and Oda Billung Of THURINGIA, in 1st Wife. Luitgarde was born about 848 in Saxony, Germany.

Louis next married Adelaide Judith De PARIS 1784,3084,3085,3086,3087 before 870 in 3rd Wife 2321.,3084 Adelaide was born about 850 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died about 10 November 901 3082,3088 about age 51. Other names for Adelaide were Adelaide Of AUXERRE, Adélaïde De FRIOUL, and Adalaide Of PARIS.

Louis next married Queen Of France Adelheide FRANKS 1601 in 875. Adelheide was born between 855 and 860 in Of, Paris, , France and died about 18 October 900 about age 45.

Louis next married Queen Of The Franks Ansgarde Princess Of BURGUNDY 1601,3091,3092 in 862 in 2ND Wife 1109,1436.,3091 Ansgarde was born about 844 in , , Aix-La-Chappelle, Austrasia and died after 2 November 879. Another name for Ansgarde was Ansgarde Of BURGUNDY.

1029681724285. Adelaide Judith De PARIS,415,1444,1784,3084,3085,3086,3087,3094 daughter of Bego (Beggo\Beggen) II Count Of PARIS and Alpaide Princess Of FRANCE, was born about 850 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died about 10 November 901 3082,3088 about age 51. Other names for Adelaide were Adelaide Of AUXERRE, Adélaïde De FRIOUL, and Adalaide Of PARIS.

General Notes:
Louis II, "the Stammerer", King of the Franks and Emperor; m. (3), 868/70 Adelaide (or Aelis) of Paris, d. c 10 Nov 901, probably (not proven) daughter of Bego, Count of Paris (d. 861) (Brandenburg), or daughter of Count Girard (Saillot, "Sang de Charlemagne 201). [Ancestral Roots, line 143-16]

The other reference in AR (148-16) states that Adelaide is 2nd wife. Who knows?

The parents of Adelaide are not proven. The way that I have it is one of the "prevalent" ancestries for Adeliade. Others exist, as indicated in the two postings to soc.genealogy.medieval by Todd Farmerie (whom I have great respect for), which I have copied below:

----[message #1]---------------

From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Adelaide of Paris
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/02/15

[email protected] wrote:

Please, can someone inform me who is the real father (and ancestors) of
Adelaide of Paris, as I have two names (see numbers 6, below).

1 CHARLES III of France, married (2) EADGYFU VAN WESSEX,
2 LOUIS II DER FRANKEN, born in 844 or (November 1, 846 ?),
Louis was married before (in 862) to ANSGARDE of
BOURGONDY, born in the year 840. He married (3) to his
great-aunt EMMA von Altdorf, who died January 31, 876,
d/o WELF III and EDITH. LOUIS married (2) in February 868
3 ADELAIDE de PARIS, born ca 855, died in Compiegne (Fr) on
November 14, 901.

Here I must be wrong. So please help me correct. If ADELAIDE of Paris died
in 901, how could LOUIS marry EMMA, who died in 876.

This confuses two Louis, uncle and nephew. Louis II of France, husband of Adelaide, was married only twice, to Ansgarde and Adelaide. Louis II of Germany, son of Louis the Pious, married Emma, who was daughter of Welf (but his wife's name was not Edith).

6 GERARD II de PARIS, born 830, died in the year 870.
7 EVA BERTHE d' AUXERRE, born in the year 830, died before.

OR?:
6 BEGGO II de PARIS, s/o EBERHARD de Paris
7 NN

Who can tell me how this ahnentafel (and dates) shoud be?
Thank you for your cooperation and help.

Adelaide's parentage is subject to much debate. Most agree she was of Carolingian descent, and IIRC, a couple of brothers are well attested. Likewise, there seems to be agreement that she descended from Bego I, but the intervening generations are guesswork, and the two versions you have are two of the guesses I have seen.

taf

------[message #2]----------

From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Adelaide de Palatine & Adelaide de Paris
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-11-11 21:17:05 PST

[email protected] wrote:

For some strange reason I have Adelaide de Palatine b.abt 855 d. abt 901
daughter of Adalhard de Palatine & ?? married to Louis II de France. I also have Adelaide (Aelis) de Paris b. abt 855 d. abt 901 daughter of Gerald II de Paris & Eve d'Auxerre who is not married to anyone! But what I am finding on other web based data bases is that Adelaide de Paris is married to Louis II de France.

Now which one is the correct one?

It is all speculation. There is no source that directly attests to the names of her parents, so there is no right answer (although there are wrong ones).

taf

Adelaide married Louis II "The Stammerer" King Of FRANKS 1109,1601,3081 before 870 in 3rd Wife 2321.,3084 Louis was born on 1 November 846 in France 3081,3082 and died on 10 April 879 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-DE-France, France 3081,3082,3083 at age 32. Another name for Louis was Louis II Le Bègue Carolingien, Roi D' AQUITAINE.

1029681724286. Dietrich Count Of HAMALAND 415 was born about 870 in Hamaland, Netherlands.

Dietrich married.

Children from this marriage were:

514840862143       i.  Frédérune HAMALANT (born about 886 in Hamaland, Netherlands - died on 10 February 916-917 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France)

                  ii.  Amalrada Of HAMALANT was born about 925 in Hamaland, Netherlands.


1029681733632. Lles "Llawddeog" Ap Ceidio CEIDIO,505,1034 son of Ceidio Ap CORF and Unknown, was born about 855 in Powys, Wales.1034

Lles married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866816       i.  Gwynnog "Farfsych" Ap LLES (born about 880 in Powys, Wales)

Lles next married.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Caradog Ap Lles was born about 890 in Powys, Wales.1034


1029681733640. Ednyfed Ap ANWN Of Dyfed,505 son of Anwn DYNOD and Unknown, was born about 845 in Dyfed, Wales.

Ednyfed married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866820       i.  Dyfnwal Ap EDNYFED Of Dyfed (born about 870 in Dyfed, Wales)


1029681733664. Rhodri Mawr "The Great" Ap MERFYN King Gwynedd,505,1034,2295 son of Merfyn "Frych" Ap GWRIAD King Of Powys and Esyllt Verch CYNAN, was born in 789 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvonshire, Wales 1034 and died in 878 in Anglesey, Wales 1034,2295 at age 89.

Rhodri married Angharad Verch MEURIG 1034.,1386 Angharad was born in 825 in Ceredigion, Wales.1034

Children from this marriage were:

514840867072       i.  Anarawd Ap RHODRI Prince Of Gwynedd (born in 857 in Gwynedd, Wales - died in 916)

514840866836      ii.  Merfyn Ap RHODRI King Of Powys (born in 859 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvonshire, Wales - died in 900)

514840866832     iii.  Cadell Ap RHODRI Prince Of Deheubarth (born about 861 in Deheubarth, Wales - died in 910)

                  iv.  Nest Verch RHODRI was born about 870 in Deheubarth, Wales.1034


1029681733665. Angharad Verch MEURIG,505,1034,1386 daughter of Meurig Ap DYFNWALLON and Meurig Ap Dyfnwallon, was born in 825 in Ceredigion, Wales.1034

Angharad married Rhodri Mawr "The Great" Ap MERFYN King Gwynedd 1034.,2295 Rhodri was born in 789 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvonshire, Wales 1034 and died in 878 in Anglesey, Wales 1034,2295 at age 89.

1029681733668. Hyfaidd Ap BLEIDDIG King Of Dyfed,505,1034 son of Bleiddig BLEDRI and Tangwystl Verch OWAIN Princess Of Dyfed, was born in 820 in Dyfed, Wales 1034 and died in 893 1034 at age 73.

Hyfaidd married.

Hyfaidd married Hyfaidd Ap Bleiddig.1034 Hyfaidd was born about 824 in Dyfed, Wales.1034

The child from this marriage was:

514840866834       i.  Llywarch Ap HYFAIDD King Of Dyfedd (born in 867 in Dyfed, Wales - died in 904)


1029681733669. Hyfaidd Ap Bleiddig 1034 was born about 824 in Dyfed, Wales.1034

Hyfaidd married Hyfaidd Ap BLEIDDIG King Of Dyfed,1034 son of Bleiddig BLEDRI and Tangwystl Verch OWAIN Princess Of Dyfed. Hyfaidd was born in 820 in Dyfed, Wales 1034 and died in 893 1034 at age 73.

1029681733672. Rhodri Mawr "The Great" Ap MERFYN King Gwynedd,505,1034,2295 son of Merfyn "Frych" Ap GWRIAD King Of Powys and Esyllt Verch CYNAN, was born in 789 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvonshire, Wales 1034 and died in 878 in Anglesey, Wales 1034,2295 at age 89.

Rhodri married Angharad Verch MEURIG 1034.,1386 Angharad was born in 825 in Ceredigion, Wales.1034

1029681733673. Angharad Verch MEURIG,505,1034,1386 daughter of Meurig Ap DYFNWALLON and Meurig Ap Dyfnwallon, was born in 825 in Ceredigion, Wales.1034

Angharad married Rhodri Mawr "The Great" Ap MERFYN King Gwynedd 1034.,2295 Rhodri was born in 789 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvonshire, Wales 1034 and died in 878 in Anglesey, Wales 1034,2295 at age 89.

1029681733792. Elgudy Ap Gwrysnad,1034 son of Gwrysnad Ap Dwywg and Unknown, was born about 802 in North Wales.1034

Elgudy married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866896       i.  Cynddelw "Gam" Ap Elgudy (born about 839 in North Wales)


1029681733824. Gweirydd Ap Cynwrig,1034 son of Cynwrig Ap Cynddelw and Unknown, was born about 936 in North Wales.1034

Gweirydd married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866912       i.  Coel Ap Gweirydd (born about 981 in North Wales)


1029681733856. Llywelyn "Eurdorchog" Ap Coel,1034 son of Coel Ap Gweirydd and Unknown, was born about 1030 in Denbighshire, Wales.1034

Llywelyn married Efa Ferch Bleddyn,1034 daughter of Bleddyn "Sais" Ap CYNFYN Prince Of Powys and Unknown. Efa was born about 1058 in Montgomeryshire, Wales.1034

1029681733857. Efa Ferch Bleddyn,1034 daughter of Bleddyn "Sais" Ap CYNFYN Prince Of Powys and Unknown, was born about 1058 in Montgomeryshire, Wales.1034

Efa married Llywelyn "Eurdorchog" Ap Coel,1034 son of Coel Ap Gweirydd and Unknown. Llywelyn was born about 1030 in Denbighshire, Wales.1034

1029681733858. Hwfa Ap Brochwel,1034 son of Brochwel Ap Bledrus and Unknown, was born about 1045 in Anglesey, Wales.1034

Hwfa married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866929       i.  Lleucu Ferch Hwfa (born about 1085 in Anglesey, Wales)


1029681733862. Llychwy 1034 was born in Llanbeulan, Llechylched, Anglesey, Wales.1034

Llychwy married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866931       i.  Ferch Llychwy (born about 1070 in Llanbeulan, Llechylched, Anglesey, Wales)


1029681733888. Seferws Ap Cadwr,1034 son of Cadwr Ap CADWR and Unknown, was born about 882 in Powys, Wales.1034

Seferws married Lleucu Ferch Morgan,1034 daughter of Morgan "Mawr" ("Hen") Ap Owain and Lleucu Ferch Enflew. Lleucu was born about 919 in Morgannwg Gwlad, Wales.1034

The child from this marriage was:

514840866944       i.  Ifor Ap Seferws (born about 938 in Powys, Wales)


1029681733889. Lleucu Ferch Morgan,1034 daughter of Morgan "Mawr" ("Hen") Ap Owain and Lleucu Ferch Enflew, was born about 919 in Morgannwg Gwlad, Wales.1034

Lleucu married Seferws Ap Cadwr,1034 son of Cadwr Ap CADWR and Unknown. Seferws was born about 882 in Powys, Wales.1034

1029681733890. Tryffin 1034 was born about 910 in Wales.1034

Tryffin married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866945       i.  Isabel Ferch Tryffin (born about 939 in Wales)


1029681733892. Tewdwr Ap YNYR Lord Of Hereford 505,1034,2527 was born in 903 in Denbighshire, Wales 1034,2527 and died in 948 1034 at age 45. Another name for Tewdwr was Tudur TREFOR.

General Notes:
Tudur Trefor; born c900; married Angharad, daughter of Hywell "Ddu" ("The Good"), King of Wales. [Burke's Peerage]

Tewdwr married Angharad Verch HYWEL,1034,2527 daughter of Hywel "Ddu\The Good" Ap CADELL King Of Wales and Elen Verch LLYWARCH. Angharad was born about 907 in Dynev, Llan, Carmarthenshire, Wales.1034

1029681733893. Angharad Verch HYWEL,505,1034,2527 daughter of Hywel "Ddu\The Good" Ap CADELL King Of Wales and Elen Verch LLYWARCH, was born about 907 in Dynev, Llan, Carmarthenshire, Wales.1034

General Notes:
Angharad, daughter of Hywell "Ddu" ("The Good"), King of Wales. [Burke's Peerage]

Angharad married Tewdwr Ap YNYR Lord Of Hereford 1034.,2527 Tewdwr was born in 903 in Denbighshire, Wales 1034,2527 and died in 948 1034 at age 45. Another name for Tewdwr was Tudur TREFOR.

1029681733894. Dyfnwal 1034 was born in Denbighshire, Wales.1034

Dyfnwal married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840866947       i.  Tangwystl Ferch Dyfnwal (born about 944 in Denbighshire, Wales)


1029681734144. Rhodri Mawr "The Great" Ap MERFYN King Gwynedd,505,1034,2295 son of Merfyn "Frych" Ap GWRIAD King Of Powys and Esyllt Verch CYNAN, was born in 789 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvonshire, Wales 1034 and died in 878 in Anglesey, Wales 1034,2295 at age 89.

Rhodri married Angharad Verch MEURIG,1034,1386 daughter of Meurig Ap DYFNWALLON and Meurig Ap Dyfnwallon. Angharad was born in 825 in Ceredigion, Wales.1034

1029681734145. Angharad Verch MEURIG,505,1034,1386 daughter of Meurig Ap DYFNWALLON and Meurig Ap Dyfnwallon, was born in 825 in Ceredigion, Wales.1034

Angharad married Rhodri Mawr "The Great" Ap MERFYN King Gwynedd,1034,2295 son of Merfyn "Frych" Ap GWRIAD King Of Powys and Esyllt Verch CYNAN. Rhodri was born in 789 in Caer Seiont, Carnarvonshire, Wales 1034 and died in 878 in Anglesey, Wales 1034,2295 at age 89.

1029681734212. Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND,415,779,830,835,1062,1065,1444,1513,1601,1746,2303,2720,3216,3233,3234,3235,3236,3237,3238,3239,3240,3241,3242,3243,3244,3245,3246,3247,3248,3249,3250,3251 son of Aethelwulf King Of Kent & WESSEX and Osburgh Of WIGHT Queen Of Wessex, was born in 849 in Wantage, Berkshire, England,835,1416,1436,3065,3216 died on 26 October 899 in Winchester, Hampshire, England 835,1436,3065,3216 at age 50, and was buried in 901 in Winchester Cathedral, Winchester, England. Another name for Alfred was Alfred The Great, King Of The WEST SAXONS.

General Notes:
King of the West Saxons during numerous Danish invasions. Laid the groundwork for the unification of England. Patron of learning and education. Translated the work of Boethius and Paulus Orosius. Made the first laws with no distinction between the English and the Welsh peoples. [Funk & Wagnalls]

Came to the throne in 871. He was a scholar, lawgiver, warrior and king, the first great statesman to emerge clearly from the mists of early English history. His biographer and friend, Asser, Bishop of Sherborne, painted a portrait of a man of exceptional gifts, devout and humane, devoted to the welfare of his people, as brave in battle as he was studious in scholarship, always careful to make the best use of his time so that he could continue with his studies and translations without neglecting the cares and duties of government, even inventing a water clock to help him in this endeavour.

In battle against the Danes at Ashdown in the Berkshire hills Alfred fought "like a wild boar". But, although his enemies were here defeated, the Danish incursions into England were soon resumed; and for a time Alfred, with a small company of faithful followers, was driven into hiding from the invaders on the Isle of Athelney in the Somerset marshes, moving "under difficulties through woods and into inaccessible places" and giving rise to the famous legend that he sought shelter in a cottage where a woman scolded the unrecognized fugitive for allowing her cakes to burn by the fire.

Gradually, however, the number of his supporters increased and by 878 Alfred was able to bring the Danes to battle once more and to defeat them decisively. He obliged them to remain within an area bound by Watling Street known as the Danelaw, and persuaded their leader, Guthrum, and several of his leading warriors, to be baptized as Christians. Taking advantage of the temporary peace, Alfred reorganized the fyrd, satisfying the complaints of men who had had to leave their farms for indeterminate periods to serve as soldiers; and he built up a strong navy to patrol the English Channel, forcing many would-be invaders to turn their attentions to northern France where their settlements became known as Normandy, the land of the men from the north. [The Story of England]

In 865 the Great Army, under several royal Scandinavian generals, moved from Francia and landed in East Anglia. In 866 they seized York from the warring Northumbrian kings and set up a kingdom based on that town; they then conquered eastern Mercia and East Anglia. The attacks on King Alfred's Wessex failed, although in 878 Wessex was attacked from both east and west and the Vikings narrowly missed capturing the king himself. Alfred rallied his subjects, and forced the invaders to make peace, agreeing on a frontier
between West Saxon territory and what became known as the Danelaw. By about 888 King Alfred had learned much from his Frankish neighbours on the art of fighting Vikings and had built up a series of forts, or burhs, and had equipped himself with an effective navy. [The Oxford History of Medieval Europe]

Alfred was the most complete embodiment of all that is great, all that is lovable, in the English temper. He combined as no other man has ever combined its practical energy, its patient and enduring force, its profound sense of duty, the reserve and self-control that steadies in it a wide outlook and a restless daring, its temperance and fairness, its frank genialty, its sensitiveness to action, its poetic tenderness, its deep and passionate religion. His temper was instinct with piety. Vexed as he was by sickness and constant pain, his temper took no touch of asceticism. His rare genialty, a peculiar elasticity and mobility of nature, gave color and charm to his life. A sunny frankness and openness of spirit breathes in the pleasant chat of his
books, and what he was in his books he showed himself in his daily converse. [WBH - England]

5th son of Ethelwulf, came to the shaking throne on the death of his brother, at a time when a body of Danes held the mouth of the Thames and had fixed a strong camp as far up as Reading. The noblest of the English kings, his virtues and exploits better attested than the halo of romance that crowns the British Arthur, some of whose legendary renown seems to have been borrowed from this Saxon hero. Mother died when he was very young. Sent to Rome when he was 5 years old in the charge of Bishop Swithin to further his education. He
remained there for 2-3 years. Gave half his time and income to God and all of both for the good of his people. Sent gifts to Rome and to foreign monasteries, even as far off as to mission settlements in India. Refounded
London after chasing out Guthrum and the Danes who had repeatedly plundered the city for nearly a century. He built new streets and gates, and repaired the Roman walls, behind which the Danes later on left traces of their presence in the names of their saints, Magnus and Olaf. Winchester appears to have been Alfred's capital, but in his moving life he must have spent much time at London, though it was treated as belonging not to Wessex but to the dependent kingdom of Mercia. London Bridge was made into a keep closing the passage of the river Thames. [Leaders & Landmarks, Vol. II, pp. 14-24]

From the accession of Ethelbert in 860, to his death in 866, Alfred is without responsibility, except that of self-improvement. He is of weak health; but he leads no sedentary life. Alfred saw that, however excellent were books, there were other means of education; and thus he became, not only the great warrior and statesman, but the most practical improver of the people, elevating their knowledge and exciting their industry. He taught workers of gold and other artificers how best to labour in their crafts. He instructed his falconers,
hawkers, and dog-keepers. He built houses, majestic and good beyond all the precedents of his ancestors, by his new mechanical inventions. [Knight's Popular History of England, Vol. 1, pp. 90-150]

Had 2 sons and 4 daughters. [Knight's, Vol. 1, p. 131]

Reigned 871-99. 5th and youngest son of Aethelwulf whose fame was to resound through history like no English king before him; father of Edward the Elder. [Chronicle of the Royal Family, chart]

From an early age Alfred suffered from bouts of ill health. Speculation is that his malady(ies) were chronic hemmorhoids, epilepsy, or a venereal disease contracted before his marriage to Princess Ealhswith. [Chronicle of the Royal Family, p. 13]

Founded the University of Oxford and died there in 901; buried at Winchester. His wife was Elswitha, dau. of the earl of Mercia. [Falaise Roll, p. 187]

One of the greatest men in history. Crowned king at Winchester 871; founded the British Navy; organized the militia; compiled a code of laws; built schools and monasteries; invited scholars to live at his court; translator of several books himself. [Williams-Wolcott & Related Families, p. 159]

Alfred prevented the landing of one detachment of Danes in the Stour, but a second pirate fleet swept away his victorious ships and landed its men. On Edward's accession Ethelwald, the pretender to Alfred's throne, thought to make good his claim by Danish arms, fled to East Anglia and gathered a large army among them. [Victoria History of Suffolk, p. 164]

Alfred ascended to the throne in 871 at the age of 23. After a series of battles, he succeeded in liberating England from the Danes, Europe's most terrible warriors, who surrendered in 878 with a solemn oath to quit Wessex and accept baptism.
During the following years of peace, Alfred rebuilt cities, erected fortresses, trained militia, and encouraged the arts and learning. He reformed the administration of justice so effectively that "a purse of money, or a pair of golden bracelets might .... be exposed for weeks in a complete safety on the common highways." In a era of ignorance and barbarism, Alfred was an accomplished scholar and a zealous patron of learning. He translated many historical and philosophical works.
Both for what he did and for what he was, Alfred has become known to all generations of Englishmen as their best and greatest king.
On his death bed, he spoke this message; "This I can now most truly say, that I have sought to live worthily while I lived, and after my life to leave to men who come after me a remembering of me in a good works."
His five axioms were: 1. A wise God governs. 2. All suffering may be accounted blessings. 3. God is the chiefest good. 4. Only the good are happy. 5. The fore-knowledge of God does not conflict with man's free will.

King of England; son of Ethelwulf, King of Wessex, and Osburh; m. Ealhswith. [WFT Vol 1 Ped 986]

The Anglo-Saxon cause was at a low ebb when Alfred began his reign (871-901). At tone time he was a monarch on the run, hiding in the wild marshes at Athelney in Somerset, where he burned the famous cakes. Gradually, Alfred was able to push further east, moving his capital from Shaftesbury to Winchester
and drawing a line across England to contain the territorial ambitions of the Danelaw. Eventually, he moved the vulnerable Saxon settlement at Aldwych (old town) into the relative security of the walls of Roman Londinium.
Alfred deserved his title " the Great" as much for the arts of peace. His defensive townships were the major force in creating urban communities. In all, he founded some 25 towns. Notable alfredian fortifications survive at Wareham in Dorset, Wallingford in Oxfordshire and at Cricklade in Wiltshire. Alfred also studied Latin, promoted learning, established monasteries and convents and ordered the compilation of the historical record known as the ANGLO-SAXONCHRONICLE.
Alfred's reign saw the further consolidation of the English nation under the tutelage of Wessex, as commenced by Egbert (802-39), generally reckoned to be the first King of England. [Realm, Jan/Feb, 1997, No. 72, p. 57]

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 901. 1416

• Ruled: 2303 871-899

Alfred married Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI 1601,3101,3216,3235,3252 in 868 in Winchester, -, England 835,1416,1436,3065.,3216 Elswitha was born in 852 in Gaini, Mercia, England,3065 died on 5 December 905 in St. Mary's Abbey, Winchester, Hampshire, England 1416,1784,3216 at age 53, and was buried in Winchester, Dorset, England. Other names for Elswitha were Alswitha, Ealhswith, Ethelswitha, Ealswith Of The GAINI, and1436 Alswitha Of MERCIA.

1029681734213. Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI,415,1444,1601,1746,3101,3216,3235,3252 daughter of Aethelred II Mucil Earl Of MERCIA and Eadburh (Eadberg) FADBURN, was born in 852 in Gaini, Mercia, England,3065 died on 5 December 905 in St. Mary's Abbey, Winchester, Hampshire, England 1416,1784,3216 at age 53, and was buried in Winchester, Dorset, England. Other names for Elswitha were Alswitha, Ealhswith, Ethelswitha, Ealswith Of The GAINI, and1436 Alswitha Of MERCIA.

Elswitha married Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND 779,830,835,1062,1065,1513,1601,2303,2720,3216,3233,3234,3235,3236,3237,3238,3239,3240,3241,3242,3243,3244,3245,3246,3247,3248,3249,3250,3251 in 868 in Winchester, -, England 835,1416,1436,3065.,3216 Alfred was born in 849 in Wantage, Berkshire, England,835,1416,1436,3065,3216 died on 26 October 899 in Winchester, Hampshire, England 835,1436,3065,3216 at age 50, and was buried in 901 in Winchester Cathedral, Winchester, England. Another name for Alfred was Alfred The Great, King Of The WEST SAXONS.

1029681734224. Lachtnae Na MUNSTER,415 son of Corc Na MUNSTER and Unknown, was born about 850 in Grinan, Munster, Ireland.

Lachtnae married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840867112       i.  Lorcan Na MUNSTER (born in 880 in Grinan, Munster, Ireland - died in 942)


1029681734228. Murrough O'FLAHERTY,415 son of Moenach Na CONNACHT and Unknown, was born about 850 in Connaught, Ireland and died in 896 about age 46.

Murrough married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840867114       i.  Aurchad O'FLAHERTY (born about 875 in Connaught, Ireland - died in 945)


1029681734241. Isabel De WARENNE,415,930 daughter of William De WARENNE 6th Earl Of Surrey and Maud MARSHAL, was born about 1226 in Lewes, Sussex, England and died before 20 September 1282 in Marham, Norfolk, England 930.

General Notes: He [Hugh d'Aubigny] married, in 1234, Isabel, daughter of William (DE WARENNE), EARL OF SURREY, by his 2nd wife, Maud, daughter of William (Marshal), EARL OF PEMBROKE, the said EARL OF SURREY having given 300 marks for the right so to dispose of him. The same Earl also performed the office of Pincerna at the King's nuptials (1236) on behalf of his said son-in-law, who was still a minor and, at the time, excommunicated. Notwithstanding his minority he had in 1234, obtained for 2,500 marks, possession of not only his paternal estates, but also of those which he inherited by the death of his maternal uncle, Ranulph, Earl of Checter. In 1242 was one of seven Earls who accompanied the King in his expedition to Guienne. He died sine prole, "in the flower of his youth," 7 May 1243, and was buried with his ancestors at Wymondham Priory. On his death the large estates of the family were divided between his four sisters and coheirs, or their issue, while the Earldom of Sussex reverted to the crown. His widow survived him nearly 40 years, during which long period the family of Fitz Alan, though in possession of the Castle of Arundel, never assumed the title of Earl of Arundel. She died before 20 Sep 1282 and was buried at Marham, Norfolk, in the conventual church which she founded. [Complete Peerage I:238-9, XIV:38, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Isabel married in 1234.930

The child from this marriage was:

514840867120       i.  Ollilol King Of LEINSTER (born in 830 in Leinster, Ireland - died about 871)



Isabel married Hugh D' AUBIGNY 5th Earl Of Arundel,930 son of William D' AUBIGNY 3rd Earl Of Arundel and Mabel De MESCHINES Countess Of Sussex, in 1234.930 Hugh was born about 1214 in Arundel, Sussex, England,930 died on 7 May 1243 in (Dsp) 930 about age 29, and was buried in Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England. Other names for Hugh were 08th\5Th Earl Of ARUNDEL Hugh D' Aubigny, and 05th Earl Of SUSSEX Hugh D' Aubigny.923


1029681734388. Cadwr "Wenwyn" Ab IDNERTH,505,1034 son of Idnerth Ab IORWERTH and Unknown, was born in 830 in Powys, Wales.1034

Cadwr married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840867194       i.  Cadwr Ap CADWR (born in 857 in Powys, Wales)


1029681734400. Bledrus Ap Cynog,1034 son of Cynog "Mawr" Ap Iorwerth and Unknown, was born about 830 in Powys, Wales.1034

Bledrus married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840867200       i.  Bleddyn Ap Bledrus (born about 870 in Powys, Wales)


1029681737216. Duke Rupert (Robert) I WORMSGAU,1601,1746 son of Robert II CHRODOBERTUS and Doda (Mrs.) ROBERT, was born about 720 in <Neustria> and died about 764 about age 44.

Rupert married Williswint (Mrs.) WORMSGAU 1601 in <Neustria>. Williswint was born about 725 and died about 768 about age 43.

The child from this marriage was:

514840868608       i.  Thüringbert (Thurincbertus) WORMSGAU (born about 745 - died on 1 June 770)


1029681737217. Williswint (Mrs.) WORMSGAU 1601,1746 was born about 725 and died about 768 about age 43.

Williswint married Duke Rupert (Robert) I WORMSGAU,1601 son of Robert II CHRODOBERTUS and Doda (Mrs.) ROBERT, in <Neustria>. Rupert was born about 720 in <Neustria> and died about 764 about age 44.

1029681737224. Childebrand "De Heristal" AUSTRASIA,1601,1746,2898 son of Pepin II Mayor Of The Palace Of AUSTRASIA and Concubine 1 Alpaide AUSTRASIA, was born about 678 in Heristal, Liege, Belgium and died in 751 2898 about age 73.

Childebrand married Rolande De Autun Of TOULOUSE,2898 daughter of Habibai (Haninai) BEN NATRONAI and Bertha Of NEUSTRIA. Rolande was born about 696 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Nivelon I "The Historian" Lord Of PERRACY was born about 718 in Perrancey, Haute-Marne, Champagne, France and died on 9 October 768 2898 about age 50.

514840868612      ii.  Thierry (Theodoric) Count Of AUTUN (born about 720 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France - died on 6 July 793 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France)

Childebrand next married Emma Of AUSTRASIA 1601 about 701 in 0f, Heristal, Liege, Belgium. Emma was born in Of, , , Austrasia and died in Y.


1029681737225. Rolande De Autun Of TOULOUSE,2898 daughter of Habibai (Haninai) BEN NATRONAI and Bertha Of NEUSTRIA, was born about 696 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France.

Rolande married Childebrand "De Heristal" AUSTRASIA,1601,2898 son of Pepin II Mayor Of The Palace Of AUSTRASIA and Concubine 1 Alpaide AUSTRASIA. Childebrand was born about 678 in Heristal, Liege, Belgium and died in 751 2898 about age 73.


1029681737226. Charles MARTEL Mayor Of The Palace Of Austrasia,1601,1746,2151,3272,3273 son of Pepin II Mayor Of The Palace Of AUSTRASIA and Concubine 1 Alpaide AUSTRASIA, was born in 676 in Of, Heristal, , Neustria,902,3272,3274 died on 15 October 741 in Cressy Sur Oise, Neustria 902,3272,3274 at age 65, and was buried in Monastère DE Saint Denis, Saint Denis, France. Another name for Charles was Charles "The Hammer" MARTEL.

General Notes:
Victor over the Saracens at Tours, Poitiers.

Carolingian ruler of the Frankish kingdom of Austrasia (in present northeastern France and southwestern Germany). Charles, whose surname means the hammer, was the son of Pepin of Herstal and the grandfather of Charlemagne. Pepin was mayor of the palace under the last kings of the Merovingian dynasty. When he died in 714, Charles, an illegitimate son, was imprisoned by his father's widow, but he escaped in 715 and was proclaimed mayor of the palace by the Austrasians. A war between Austrasia and the Frankish kingdom of Neustria (now part of France) followed, and at the end of it Charles became the undisputed ruler of all the Franks. Although he was engaged in wars against the Alamanni, Bavarians, and Saxons, his greatest achievements were against the Muslims from Spain, who invaded France in 732. Charles defeated them near Poitiers in a great battle in which the Muslim leader, Abd-ar-Rahman, the emir of Spain, was killed. The progress of Islam, which had filled all Christendom with alarm, was thus checked for a time. Charles drove the Muslims out of the Rhone valley in 739, when they had again advanced into France as far as Lyon, leaving them nothing of their possessions north of the Pyrenees beyond the Aude River. Charles died in Quierzy, on the Oise River, leaving the kingdom divided between his two sons, Carloman (circa 715-54) and Pepin the Short.

SOURCES:
Charles Martel (Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.)

(Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)

(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians.)

(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 129, Line 171-43.)

(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Pages 271 - 273, 369).

Born: in 686 in Chateau de Franchemont, Belgium, son of Pepin II d'Heristal and Aupais=Alpaide N? , The Chateau de Franchemont is near Spa and also Verviers, which may have encompassed Heristal. During World War II, the resistance used the tunnels under the castle to hide people and supplies from the German hordes.

Married before 715: Rotrude=Chrotrud, Duchesse d'Austrasie , daughter of Saint Lievin=Leutwinus, Bishop de Treves and N. d'Istrie. Note - between 715 and 741: Toward the end of 715, Charles escaped from the prison his step-grandmother had locked him in, and rallies the Austrasians. In March, 716, however, in his first conflict with the Frisons who were edging their way up the Rhine, Charles is routed. A few weeks later, he is able to beat the Neustrians on the Ambeve River, near Malmedy. on 21 March 717, he is victorious over the Neustrians again, this time at Vincy, near Cambrai and he forces Chilperic II and his Mayor of the Palace, Rainfroi to flee to Paris. In 714, Charles takes the title Mayor of the Palace of Neustria, and gives the Neustrians a new King, Clotaire IV, son of Thierry III [who had died in 691] . The same year, his armies ravage Saxe all the way to the Weser River. In early 719, Clotaire IV died, and Rainfroi and Chilperic II obtain the assistance of Eudes, Duke of Aquitaine in a campaign against Charles. Charles defeats both armies; however, since Clotaire IV is dead, Charles recognizes Chilperic, but he becomes the Major Domus of both Neustria and Austrasia. When Chilperic II died in 721, Charles pulled Thierry IV, young adolescent son of Dagobert III, out of the Monastery of Chelles. from 722 to 724, the arabs mount successful offensives and pillage Autun. Charles, worried about maintaining the Franc authority, Charles Martel mounts a frightfully succesful campaign in Bavaria against the Allemanians and the Frisons, and he destroys their temples. Theutbald, Duke of the Allemanians is essentially powerless. In Gaule, toward the end of the decade, Charles turns his attention to Eudes, Duke of Aquitaine, who had maintained too independent an attitude. Aquitaine is ravaged in the process. In 730, Eudes allies himself with an Emir of northern Spain, Othmann ben Abi-Nessa and the arabs agin a foothold in southern France. By 732, a new emir, Adb-el-Rahman invades from Pampelona, cross the Pyrenees near Roncevaux, take and pillage Bordeaux, burning all the churches. In the Summer, they take Poitiers and destroy the basilica of Saint-Hilaire-hors-les-murs. On Saturday 17 October 732, Charles Martel's armies take the great Roman way linking Chatellerault to Poitiers and at 20 km North of Poitiers, at Moussais-la-Bataille, it encounters the arabs. They would observe each other for 7 days before the Battle of Poitiers would take place.

The Battle of Poitiers: One Chronicler, Fredegaire described the action as follows: "Duke Eudes, being viewed with derision throughout his lands, called against Prince Charles and the nation of the Francs, that most perfidious race of the Sarrasins [that is not accurate as Eudes had first allied himself with an Emir, but then called upon Charles for aid when events turned on him] . The Sarrasins, led by their King, Abd-el-Rahman cross Gerona [another error as they set out from Pampelona and crossed the pyrenees at Roncevaux] . After having burned the churches, and crushed the population, they arrive in Poitiers. When they burn the Basilica and destroy the residence of Saint Martin, Prince Charles put into action an audacious plan and the order of Battle is given. With the aid of Jesus Christ, our Lord, our valorous Prince destroys their tents and flies into combat to crush them..."

A less glorious account is given by a monk of the Abbey of Moissac:

"The King of Spain, Abd-el-Rahman, having crossed the Pyrenees with his large army from Pampelona, laid siege to Bordeaux. Then Eudes, Prince of Aquitaine, leading his large assembled army fought against the Sarrasins on the banks of the Garonne. But, from the beginning, the Sarrasins were victorious. Eudes, having to flee, recruited the assistance of Charles, Prince of the Francs. Then Charles led his armies and combat ensued in the suburbs of Poitiers [the actual battle took place 20 km North of Poitiers] . The Sarrasins having been beaten by the Francs, and their King, Abd-el-Rahman killed, fled in a most disorderly manner back to Spain. As to Charles, he returned triumphantly to France with the bounty..."

The Moslems have named that field of Battle: Balad-al-Shouhada -- Place of the Martyrs of the Faith. This victory gave Charles Martel extraordinary prestige, and it is there that he is said to have crushed the arabs "like a hammer". He then occupied the Bourgogne (Burgundy) and pacified the Languedoc, and Provence, thus establishing a significant French Monarchy. He exiled the family of Eucharic of Orleans, who controlled the bishopric of Auxerre, to Hesbaye, and installed his own man, Aimar to the Holy See. Married before 726: Sunnichild de Baviere. Buried: in Oct 741 in Saint Denis, Seine, Ile-de-France, France. Died: on 22 Oct 741 in Kiersy=Quierzy, Aisne, France, Upon Charles Martel's death, his two sons divide the Kingdom in accordance with his wishes. Carloman gets Austrasia, Allemania and Thuringia; Pepin gets Neustria, Burgundy and Provence. The rest, very little, went to Grifon, a bastard child of Charles by Swannhilde, grand-daughter of the Duke of the Bavarians.

Charles married Mrs-Carloman Of The Palace Of AUSTRASIA 1601 in Not Married. Mrs-Carloman was born about 568 in Of, Belgium and died in Y.

Charles next married Duchess Of Austrasia Rotrude (Chrotude)(Sonichilde) TREVES,1601,3275 daughter of Leutwinus Bishop Of TREVES St Lievin and Willigarde De AGILOFINGES, about 712 in 1st Wife. Rotrude was born about 690 in Austrasia, France and died about 724 3275 about age 34.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Pepin III "The Short" King Of FRANKS was born in 714 in Austrasia, France 3276,3277 and died on 24 September 768 in St Denis, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France 3276,3277 at age 54.

                  ii.  Statthalter Of Austrasia Carloman I King Of The FRANKS was born about 715 in Austrasia, Flanders Now Belgium 3131 and died on 17 August 755 in Monastery At Monte Cassino, Italy 3131 about age 40.

                 iii.  Childtrude (Hiltrude) Duchess Of BAVARIA was born about 716 in , Austrasia and died about 754 about age 38.

                  iv.  Bernard Duke Of FRANKS was born about 720 in Austrasia, France.

514840868613       v.  Auda (Aldane) MARTEL (born before 724 in Heristal, Liege, Belgium - died before 805)

Charles next married Swanhilde Of BAVARIA,2151 daughter of Grimaldo II Of BAVARIA and Viletrude, before 718 in No Marriage. Swanhilde was born about 700 in Bavaria, Germany.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Landrade MARTEL was born about 718 in Austrasia, France.

                  ii.  Miss MARTEL was born about 735.


1029681737227. Duchess Of Austrasia Rotrude (Chrotude)(Sonichilde) TREVES,1601,1746,3275 daughter of Leutwinus Bishop Of TREVES St Lievin and Willigarde De AGILOFINGES, was born about 690 in Austrasia, France and died about 724 3275 about age 34.

Rotrude married Charles MARTEL Mayor Of The Palace Of Austrasia,1601,2151,3272,3273 son of Pepin II Mayor Of The Palace Of AUSTRASIA and Concubine 1 Alpaide AUSTRASIA, about 712 in 1st Wife. Charles was born in 676 in Of, Heristal, , Neustria,902,3272,3274 died on 15 October 741 in Cressy Sur Oise, Neustria 902,3272,3274 at age 65, and was buried in Monastère DE Saint Denis, Saint Denis, France. Another name for Charles was Charles "The Hammer" MARTEL.

1029681737228. Gui Count Of WIDO,2400 son of Leutwinus Bishop Of TREVES St Lievin and Willigarde De AGILOFINGES, was born about 700 in Wido, Alsace, France and died after 722.

Gui married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840868614       i.  Lambert I Count Of HORNBACH (born about 720 in Hornbach, Prussia - died after 783)


1029681737232. Adalbert I Duke Of ALSACE,1601,1746,3278 son of Adalric (Ethic\Eticho) I Duke Of ALSACE and Berswinde Of FRANCE, was born about 675 in Alsace, Lorraine, France and died in 720 in France 3278 about age 45.

General Notes:
Brother of St Odile, patron Saint of Alsace, died 5 Dec 720.

Adalbert married Gerlinde Duchess Of AQUITAINE,1601 daughter of Eudes Duke Of AQUITAINE and Valtrude Of ORLEANS, in , , , France. Gerlinde was born about 679 in Alsace, Lorraine, France.

Children from this marriage were:

514840868616       i.  Luitfride I Duke Of ALSACE (born about 707 in Alsace, Lorraine, France - died about 750 in , , , France)

                  ii.  Eberhard Duke Of ALSACE was born about 697 in Of, , Alsace, France and died in Y.

                 iii.  Eugenia Of ALSACE was born about 699 in Of, , Alsace, France and died in Y.

                  iv.  Attala Of ALSACE was born about 701 in Of, , Alsace, France and died in Y.

                   v.  Gundlindis Of ALSACE was born about 703 in Of, , Alsace, France and died in Y.

                  vi.  Maso Of ALSACE was born about 705 in Of, , Alsace, France and died in Y.


1029681737233. Gerlinde Duchess Of AQUITAINE,1601,1746 daughter of Eudes Duke Of AQUITAINE and Valtrude Of ORLEANS, was born about 679 in Alsace, Lorraine, France.

Gerlinde married Adalbert I Duke Of ALSACE,1601,3278 son of Adalric (Ethic\Eticho) I Duke Of ALSACE and Berswinde Of FRANCE, in , , , France. Adalbert was born about 675 in Alsace, Lorraine, France and died in 720 in France 3278 about age 45.


1029681737248. King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,505,1601,1746,3279,3280,3281 son of Pepin III "The Short" King Of FRANKS and Queen Of France Berthe (Bertrade) Countess Of LAON, was born on 2 April 742 in Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia,3279,3280 was christened in St Denis, Paris, Seine, France, died from 28 January 813 to 814 in Aix-La-Chapelle, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia 3279,3280 at age 70, and was buried in Aachen Cathedral, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia. Other names for Charlemagne were Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor, and Charles The Great.

General Notes:
Charlemagne, or Charles the Great, CAROLINGIAN king of the FRANKS, came to rule over most of Europe and assumed (800) the title of Roman emperor. He is sometimes regarded as the founder of the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. In 768 he and his brother Carloman inherited the Frankish kingdom (most of present-day France and a part of western Germany) from their father PEPIN THE SHORT. The entire kingdom passed to Charlemagne when Carloman died in 771. He inherited great wealth and a strong military organization from his father and brother. He used these assets to double the territory under Carolingian control. In 772 he opened his offensive against the SAXONS, and for more than three decades he pursued a ruthless policy aimed at subjugating them and converting them to Christianity. Almost every year Charlemagne attacked one or another region of Saxon territory. --4,500 Saxons were executed on a single day in 782--and deportations were used to discourage the stubborn. The Saxons proved to be a far more difficult enemy than any of the other peoples subjugated by Charlemagne. For example, the LOMBARDS were conquered in a single extended campaign 773-74), after which Charlemagne assumed the title "king of the Lombards." In 788 he absorbed the duchy of Bavaria, and soon thereafter he launched an offensive against the AVAR empire. The Avars succumbed within a decade, yielding Charlemagne a vast hoard of gold and silver. After one disastrous campaign (778) against the Muslims in Spain, Charlemagne left the southwestern front to his son Louis, (later Emperor LOUIS I) who, with the help of local Christian rulers, conquered Barcelona in 801 and controlled much of Catalonia by 814. On Christmas Day, 800, Charlemagne accepted the title of emperor and was crowned by Pope LEO III. For several years after he regarded the imperial title of being of little value. Moreover, he intended to divide his lands and titles among his sons, as was the Frankish custom. At his death on Jan. 28, 814, however, only one son, Louis, survived; Louis therefore assumed control of the entire Frankish empire.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 800-814.

Charlemagne married Countess Of Vinzgau Hildegard Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,1601,3280,3281 daughter of Gerold Count Of Vinzgau Duke Of ALLEMANIA and Emma Of ALLEMANIA, about 772 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.3280 Hildegard was born about 757 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia,3280 died on 30 April 783 in Thionville, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3280 about age 26, and was buried in St Arnoul Abbey, Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France (Austrasia).

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Rotrude CAROLINGIAN was born about 775 in Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany and died on 6 June 810 about age 35.

                  ii.  Charles Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 772 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia and died on 4 December 811 at age 39.

514840868624     iii.  Pépin (Carloman) King Of ITALY (born in April 773 of Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia - died on 8 July 810 in Milan, Milan, Italy)

                  iv.  Adélaïde (Adelheid) Princess HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 774 in Of, Pavie, Lombardy, Italy and died in August 774.

                   v.  Rotrude Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in August 774 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia and died on 6 June 810 at age 35.

                  vi.  Bertha Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 775 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia 1120 and died from 11 March 825 to 826 1120 at age 50.

514840868654     vii.  Louis I "The Pious" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE Calolingian (born in August 778 in Chasseneuil, Lot-Et-Garonne Near Poitiers, Aquitaine, France - died on 20 June 840 in Petersaue, Ingelheim Am Rhein, Rhineland Palatinate, Germany)

                viii.  Twin Lothaire Prince Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in August 778 in Casseneuil, Lot-Et-Garonne, , France and died in August 778.

                  ix.  Gisèle Princess Of HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 781 in , Milano, Lombardy, Italy and died in Y.

                   x.  Hildegarde Princess Of HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 782 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia and died on 9 June 783 at age 1.

Charlemagne next married Countess Of France Fastrade Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601 in 783 in , Worms. Fastrade was born in <Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia> and died in Y.

Charlemagne next married Queen Of France Luttgarde Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601 after 794. Luttgarde was born in Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia and died in 800.

Charlemagne next married Concubine 3 Regina (Reginopycrha) HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601,2069 about 793 in Unmarried. Regina was born in 770 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Bastard Hugo "L'abbe" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 794 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia and died on 7 June 844 in Utrecht, Netherlands 2069 at age 50.

                  ii.  Hugo "The Bastard" L' ABBE was born in 794 in Aachen, Rheinland, Prussia and died on 7 June 844 in Utrecht, Netherlands 2069 at age 50.

Charlemagne next married Himiltrude 3085 in No Marriage. Himiltrude was born in 746 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Aupais Of FRANCE was born about 765 in France and died on 26 April 855 about age 90.


1029681737249. Countess Of Vinzgau Hildegard Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,505,1601,1746,3280,3281 daughter of Gerold Count Of Vinzgau Duke Of ALLEMANIA and Emma Of ALLEMANIA, was born about 757 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia,3280 died on 30 April 783 in Thionville, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3280 about age 26, and was buried in St Arnoul Abbey, Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France (Austrasia).

Hildegard married King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,1601,3279,3280,3281 son of Pepin III "The Short" King Of FRANKS and Queen Of France Berthe (Bertrade) Countess Of LAON, about 772 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.3280 Charlemagne was born on 2 April 742 in Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia,3279,3280 was christened in St Denis, Paris, Seine, France, died from 28 January 813 to 814 in Aix-La-Chapelle, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia 3279,3280 at age 70, and was buried in Aachen Cathedral, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia. Other names for Charlemagne were Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor, and Charles The Great.

1029681737250. Bernard Duke Of FRANKS,3116 son of Charles MARTEL Mayor Of The Palace Of Austrasia and Duchess Of Austrasia Rotrude (Chrotude)(Sonichilde) TREVES, was born about 720 in Austrasia, France.

General Notes: Ancestral Roots describes him as younger brother of Pepin the Short. Since they don't indicate half brother or illegitimate brother, I am assuming a full brother.

Bernard married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840868625       i.  Ingeltrude (Rothais\Chrothais) D' AUTUN (born about 775 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France)


1029681737272. Begue I Count Of PARIS,505,1784,3085,3270 son of Girard I Count Of PARIS and Rotrude Carloman Of FRANKS, was born about 750 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 28 October 816 1784,3270 about age 66.

General Notes: 776 - Chamberlain to Louis of Aquitaine. [Ancestral Roots]

Begue married Aupais Of FRANCE,1784,3085,3270 daughter of King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Himiltrude, in 2ND Wife.3270 Aupais was born about 765 in France and died on 26 April 855 about age 90.

Children from this marriage were:

514840868636       i.  Lisiard De FEZENSAC (born about 782 in Fezensac, Gascony, France)

                  ii.  Elizabeth PULESTON.

514840868653     iii.  Engeltron Of PARIS (born about 786 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France)

                  iv.  Leutaud I Count Of PARIS was born about 785 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France.

                   v.  Suzanna De PARIS was born about 789 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France.

                  vi.  Eberhard Count Of PARIS was born about 800 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died before 832 in Logenahe, Germany. Other names for Eberhard were Everhard (Eberhardus) Count Of LOGENAHE, and Eberharus Count Of LOGENHAE.


1029681737273. Aupais Of FRANCE,505,1784,3085,3270 daughter of King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Himiltrude, was born about 765 in France and died on 26 April 855 about age 90.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 852. 1784

Aupais married Begue I Count Of PARIS,1784,3085,3270 son of Girard I Count Of PARIS and Rotrude Carloman Of FRANKS, in 2ND Wife.3270 Begue was born about 750 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 28 October 816 1784,3270 about age 66.

1029681737280. Wittikind Duke Of WESTPHALIA,505 son of Warnechin Of ENGERN and Kunhilde Of RUGEN, was born about 749 in Westphalia, Saxony, Germany and died in 807 about age 58. Another name for Wittikind was Wittekind Von Sachsen King Of SAXONY.

Wittikind married Geva EYSTEINSDOTTIR, daughter of Eystein I "Fart" HALFDANSSON King Of Vestfold and Hildi Eiriksdatter NORWAY. Geva was born about 750 in Norway.

The child from this marriage was:

514840868640       i.  Wigbert Duke Of SAXONY (born about 770 in Westphalia, Saxony, Germany - died in 827)


1029681737281. Geva EYSTEINSDOTTIR,505 daughter of Eystein I "Fart" HALFDANSSON King Of Vestfold and Hildi Eiriksdatter NORWAY, was born about 750 in Norway.

Geva married Wittikind Duke Of WESTPHALIA, son of Warnechin Of ENGERN and Kunhilde Of RUGEN. Wittikind was born about 749 in Westphalia, Saxony, Germany and died in 807 about age 58. Another name for Wittikind was Wittekind Von Sachsen King Of SAXONY.

1029681737296. Heinrich Von WORMSGAU Count Of Wethergau,505,2400 son of Unknown and Unknown, was born about 745 in Wethergau, Bavaria, Germany and died on 5 May 795 in Slain about age 50. Another name for Heinrich was Heimrich In SAALGAU.

Heinrich married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840868648       i.  Heinrich Von OBERHEINGAU Count Of Bavaria (born about 765 in Oberheingau, Bavaria, Germany - died after 820)


1029681737304. Berenger Of FRIULI 505,1784 was born about 755 in Friuli, Italy.

Berenger married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840868652       i.  Conte Unroch (Hunroch) I Margrave Of FRIULI (born about 780 in Friuli, Italy - died before 854)


1029681737306. Begue I Count Of PARIS,505,1784,3085,3270 son of Girard I Count Of PARIS and Rotrude Carloman Of FRANKS, was born about 750 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 28 October 816 1784,3270 about age 66.

General Notes: 776 - Chamberlain to Louis of Aquitaine. [Ancestral Roots]

Begue married Aupais Of FRANCE,1784,3085,3270 daughter of King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Himiltrude, in 2ND Wife.3270 Aupais was born about 765 in France and died on 26 April 855 about age 90.

1029681737307. Aupais Of FRANCE,505,1784,3085,3270 daughter of King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Himiltrude, was born about 765 in France and died on 26 April 855 about age 90.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 852. 1784

Aupais married Begue I Count Of PARIS,1784,3085,3270 son of Girard I Count Of PARIS and Rotrude Carloman Of FRANKS, in 2ND Wife.3270 Begue was born about 750 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France and died on 28 October 816 1784,3270 about age 66.

1029681737308. King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,505,1601,1746,3279,3280,3281 son of Pepin III "The Short" King Of FRANKS and Queen Of France Berthe (Bertrade) Countess Of LAON, was born on 2 April 742 in Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia,3279,3280 was christened in St Denis, Paris, Seine, France, died from 28 January 813 to 814 in Aix-La-Chapelle, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia 3279,3280 at age 70, and was buried in Aachen Cathedral, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia. Other names for Charlemagne were Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor, and Charles The Great.

General Notes:
Charlemagne, or Charles the Great, CAROLINGIAN king of the FRANKS, came to rule over most of Europe and assumed (800) the title of Roman emperor. He is sometimes regarded as the founder of the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. In 768 he and his brother Carloman inherited the Frankish kingdom (most of present-day France and a part of western Germany) from their father PEPIN THE SHORT. The entire kingdom passed to Charlemagne when Carloman died in 771. He inherited great wealth and a strong military organization from his father and brother. He used these assets to double the territory under Carolingian control. In 772 he opened his offensive against the SAXONS, and for more than three decades he pursued a ruthless policy aimed at subjugating them and converting them to Christianity. Almost every year Charlemagne attacked one or another region of Saxon territory. --4,500 Saxons were executed on a single day in 782--and deportations were used to discourage the stubborn. The Saxons proved to be a far more difficult enemy than any of the other peoples subjugated by Charlemagne. For example, the LOMBARDS were conquered in a single extended campaign 773-74), after which Charlemagne assumed the title "king of the Lombards." In 788 he absorbed the duchy of Bavaria, and soon thereafter he launched an offensive against the AVAR empire. The Avars succumbed within a decade, yielding Charlemagne a vast hoard of gold and silver. After one disastrous campaign (778) against the Muslims in Spain, Charlemagne left the southwestern front to his son Louis, (later Emperor LOUIS I) who, with the help of local Christian rulers, conquered Barcelona in 801 and controlled much of Catalonia by 814. On Christmas Day, 800, Charlemagne accepted the title of emperor and was crowned by Pope LEO III. For several years after he regarded the imperial title of being of little value. Moreover, he intended to divide his lands and titles among his sons, as was the Frankish custom. At his death on Jan. 28, 814, however, only one son, Louis, survived; Louis therefore assumed control of the entire Frankish empire.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 800-814.

Charlemagne married Countess Of Vinzgau Hildegard Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,1601,3280,3281 daughter of Gerold Count Of Vinzgau Duke Of ALLEMANIA and Emma Of ALLEMANIA, about 772 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.3280 Hildegard was born about 757 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia,3280 died on 30 April 783 in Thionville, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3280 about age 26, and was buried in St Arnoul Abbey, Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France (Austrasia).

Charlemagne next married Countess Of France Fastrade Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601 in 783 in , Worms. Fastrade was born in <Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia> and died in Y.

Charlemagne next married Queen Of France Luttgarde Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601 after 794. Luttgarde was born in Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia and died in 800.

Charlemagne next married Concubine 3 Regina (Reginopycrha) HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601,2069 about 793 in Unmarried. Regina was born in 770 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.

Charlemagne next married Himiltrude 3085 in No Marriage. Himiltrude was born in 746 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.

1029681737309. Countess Of Vinzgau Hildegard Empress Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,505,1601,1746,3280,3281 daughter of Gerold Count Of Vinzgau Duke Of ALLEMANIA and Emma Of ALLEMANIA, was born about 757 in Of, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia,3280 died on 30 April 783 in Thionville, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3280 about age 26, and was buried in St Arnoul Abbey, Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France (Austrasia).

Hildegard married King Of The Franks Charlemagne Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601,3279,3280,3281 about 772 in Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia.3280 Charlemagne was born on 2 April 742 in Ingelheim, Rheinhessen, Hesse-Darmstadt, Prussia,3279,3280 was christened in St Denis, Paris, Seine, France, died from 28 January 813 to 814 in Aix-La-Chapelle, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia 3279,3280 at age 70, and was buried in Aachen Cathedral, Aachen, Rhineland, Prussia. Other names for Charlemagne were Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor, and Charles The Great.

1029681737310. Welf (Guelph) III Duke Of BAVARIA,505,1784,3127,3282 son of Welf (Guelph) I Of ARGENGAID and Hermenlindis Of BAVARIA, was born in 787 in Altdorf, Bavaria 2539 and died in 818 2539 at age 31.

General Notes: Note: Referring to Wurts, William Marshall gives Isenbart as an alternative parent to Welf (Guelph), but also indicates as possible father: Ruthardus, Duke of Bavaria, living 768, son of Guelph (Welf) Duke of Fruili & Bavaria. I will follow Turton until I find out more. @@check ancestry

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, Abt 825. 1784

Welf married Edith (Eigilwich\Heilwig\Hedwig) Of SAXONY 1784,2539 before 800. Edith was born about 780 in Saxony, Germany and died after 833 1784.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Conrad I Of Burgundy, Count Of PARIS AND AUXERRE was born in 800 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France 1436,2539 and died on 16 February 862 2323,2539 at age 62. Other names for Conrad were Conrad Of ARGENGAU, and1436 Konrad I Of ARGENGAU.

514840868655      ii.  Empress Of Holy Roman Emp Judith Altdorf The Fair, Princess Of BAVARIA (born in 800 in Altdorf, Bavaria - died on 19 April 843 in Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France)

                 iii.  Rudolph Comte De PONTHIEU was born about 805 in Ponthieu, Rhone-Alpes, France and died from 6 January 865 to 66 3282 about age 60.

                  iv.  Queen Of The Germans Emma Princess Of BAVARIA was born about 810 in Of, Altdorf, , Bavaria and died from 31 January 875 to 876 in , Careme, , Saxony about age 65.


1029681737311. Edith (Eigilwich\Heilwig\Hedwig) Of SAXONY 505,1784,2539 was born about 780 in Saxony, Germany and died after 833 1784.

Edith married Welf (Guelph) III Duke Of BAVARIA,1784,3127,3282 son of Welf (Guelph) I Of ARGENGAID and Hermenlindis Of BAVARIA, before 800. Welf was born in 787 in Altdorf, Bavaria 2539 and died in 818 2539 at age 31.

1029681737328. Harold Eysteinsson King Of HAITHABU,505 son of Eystein I "Fart" HALFDANSSON King Of Vestfold and Hildi Eiriksdatter NORWAY, was born about 748 in Haithabu, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany and died in 841 about age 93. Another name for Harold was Harald EYSTEINSSON King Of Haithabu.

Harold married Imhild Of ENGERN, daughter of Warnechin Of ENGERN and Kunhilde Of RUGEN. Imhild was born about 750 in Engern, Saxony, Germany.

The child from this marriage was:

514840868664       i.  Halfdan Haraldsson King Of HAITHABU (born about 767 in Haithabu, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany - died in 810 in Battle Of Walcheran)


1029681737329. Imhild Of ENGERN,505 daughter of Warnechin Of ENGERN and Kunhilde Of RUGEN, was born about 750 in Engern, Saxony, Germany.

Imhild married Harold Eysteinsson King Of HAITHABU, son of Eystein I "Fart" HALFDANSSON King Of Vestfold and Hildi Eiriksdatter NORWAY. Harold was born about 748 in Haithabu, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany and died in 841 about age 93. Another name for Harold was Harald EYSTEINSSON King Of Haithabu.

1029681737334. Sigurd "Snake Eye" Ragnarsson King Of DENMARK,505,662,2955,3283 son of Ragnar "Lodbrok" Sigurdsson DENMARK and Aslaug Sigurdsdatter NORWAY, was born about 776 in Jutland, Denmark and died in 830 in Northumbria, England about age 54. Other names for Sigurd were Sigwd Snake-In-Eye, Sigurd II Ragnarson, and Sigurd RAGNARSSON.

General Notes:
Danish king; son of Ragnar Sigurdsson and Aslaug Sigurdsdottir; father of Horda Canute, king of Sjaelland. [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD#100]

Son of Ragnar Lodbrok and Aslog; known as "Snake-in-Eye. [Historical Tales - Scandinavia, p. 29]

Son of Harold Hildetand; father of Harda Knut. [A. H. Burgess]

b. 786, d. 873; son of Ragnar Lodbrock and Aslaug Sigurdsdottir; m. Heluna Princess of England; father of:
1. Thora who m. Ragnald Gudrodsson and Helgi Olafsson
2. Aslaug who m. Helgi Fridleifsson
3. Canute
[Terry Walters <[email protected], 2 Nov 2001]

Sigurd married Heluna Bjäju ELLUSDATTER Princess Of England about 799 in Jutland, Denmark. Heluna was born in 784 in England.

Children from this marriage were:

514840868667       i.  Aslaug SIGURDSDATTER (born about 800 in Jutland, Denmark)

                  ii.  Thora SIGURDSDOTTIR was born about 798 in Jutland, Denmark. Another name for Thora was Tora Sigurdsdottir.

                 iii.  Hardecanute (Knud) Sigurdsson King Of DENMARK was born in 814 in Hord, Jutland, Denmark and died in 884 in Sjaelland Island, Denmark at age 70. Other names for Hardecanute were Harda Knut, Canute I Sigurdsson, and Hardecanute (Knud) SIGURDSSON King Of Denmark.


1029681737335. Heluna Bjäju ELLUSDATTER Princess Of England 505 was born in 784 in England.

General Notes:
b. 784; dau. of Ellu; m. Sigurd 'Snake-in-Eye' Ragnarson. [Andrew Waite <[email protected], 25 Aug 2001]

Dau of Ellu av Danmark; m. Sigurd II Snake in Eye av Seeland, König von Dänemark; mother of Tora, Aslaug and Horda-Knut. [Dirk Peters <[email protected], 15 Jul 2002]

Heluna married Sigurd "Snake Eye" Ragnarsson King Of DENMARK,662,2955,3283 son of Ragnar "Lodbrok" Sigurdsson DENMARK and Aslaug Sigurdsdatter NORWAY, about 799 in Jutland, Denmark. Sigurd was born about 776 in Jutland, Denmark and died in 830 in Northumbria, England about age 54. Other names for Sigurd were Sigwd Snake-In-Eye, Sigurd II Ragnarson, and Sigurd RAGNARSSON.

1029681767332. Budwine (Bouin\Beuvesde) Count Of Italy & METZ,415,1444,1784,3134,3284 son of Richard I Count Of AMIENS and Unknown, was born about 810 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France 1447 and died about 864 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France 1447,1784 about age 54. Other names for Budwine were Bivin, Bouin, Buvinus, AUTUN, Budwine Count Of ITALY, Buwin, Count Of METZ, Beuves, and Roi De PROVENCE.

Budwine married Richilde Of ARLES,1784 daughter of Boso III Of East Franks Count Of TURIN and Richilde D' AMIENS. Richilde was born about 822 in Turin, Italy and died about. 883 1784 about age 61. Other names for Richilde were Richilde Of ARLES, Richilde Of BOURGOGNE, Richilde Of The EAST FRANKS, Richilde Di TORINO, and Richildis Of TURIN.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Buvinus Of METZ was born about 840 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France.

                  ii.  Richard 'The Justiciar" Of AUTUN Duke Of Burgundy was born in 867 in France and died on 1 September 921 in Auxerre, France 2540,2780 at age 54. Other names for Richard were Richard De AUTUN, Richard II Le Justicier, Duc Bénéficiaire De BOURGOGNE, Richard Le Justicier, and Duke Of BURGUNDY.2323

                 iii.  Richaut Of METZ was born about 845 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France.

                  iv.  Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence was born about 845 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France and died from 11 January 886 to 887 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France 2638 about age 41. Other names for Boso were Boso, King Of BURGUNDY, and2323 Boso II King Of PROVENCE.

                   v.  Richildis Of The WEST FRANKS was born about 850 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France. Another name for Richildis was Richilde.

514840883666      vi.  Richard I "The Justiciar" Duke Of BURGUNDY (born about 860 in Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France - died on 1 September 921 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France)

                 vii.  Rudolf Of BURGUNDY King Of France died in 936.


1029681767333. Richilde Of ARLES,415,1444,1784 daughter of Boso III Of East Franks Count Of TURIN and Richilde D' AMIENS, was born about 822 in Turin, Italy and died about. 883 1784 about age 61. Other names for Richilde were Richilde Of ARLES, Richilde Of BOURGOGNE, Richilde Of The EAST FRANKS, Richilde Di TORINO, and Richildis Of TURIN.

Richilde married Budwine (Bouin\Beuvesde) Count Of Italy & METZ,1784,3134,3284 son of Richard I Count Of AMIENS and Unknown. Budwine was born about 810 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France 1447 and died about 864 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France 1447,1784 about age 54. Other names for Budwine were Bivin, Bouin, Buvinus, AUTUN, Budwine Count Of ITALY, Buwin, Count Of METZ, Beuves, and Roi De PROVENCE.

1029681767334. Conrad II Welf, Markgrave Of TRANJURANIAN BURGUNDY,415,505,1444,2323,2539,2540,2780 son of Conrad I Of Burgundy, Count Of PARIS AND AUXERRE and Adelaide, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, was born in 825 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France 1447 and died in 881 1447,2539 at age 56. Other names for Conrad were Conrad Ii, Count De AUXERRE, Konrad II Of AUXERRE, Konrad Ii, Count Of AUXERRE,2540 Conrad II Margrave Of TRANSJURANIA, Conrad Ii, and Duke Of TRANSURANAL BURGUNDY.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 825. 2539

Conrad married Ermentrude Of HAUTE ALSACE.2539 Ermentrude was born before 811 in Alsace, France and died from 20 March 850 to 851. Other names for Ermentrude were Vaudrie, Ermentrude D' ALSACE, Waldrada Of ALSACE, and Waldrada De WORMSGAU.

Children from this marriage were:

1029678574750       i.  Rudolph I King Of BURGUNDY (born about 860 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France - died on 6 October 911)

514840883667      ii.  Adelaide Of AUXERRE (born about 872 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France - died in 929)

Conrad next married Judith (Ingeltrude) Of FRIULI 1784,2553 in 1st Husband. Judith was born about 837 in Friuli, Italy and died after 853. Other names for Judith were Judith Of FRIAUL, Judith De FRIOUL, Judith Waldrada Of FRIULI, Jutte Of FRIULI, Jeutte. Grafin Von SEULICHGAU, Jhutte Von SHULICHGAU, and Judith Of The SULICHGAU.

1029681767335. Ermentrude Of HAUTE ALSACE,415,505,1444,2539 daughter of Luitfried III Count Of Upper ALSACE and Unknown, was born before 811 in Alsace, France and died from 20 March 850 to 851. Other names for Ermentrude were Vaudrie, Ermentrude D' ALSACE, Waldrada Of ALSACE, and Waldrada De WORMSGAU.

Ermentrude married Conrad II Welf, Markgrave Of TRANJURANIAN BURGUNDY 2539.,2780 Conrad was born in 825 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France 1447 and died in 881 1447,2539 at age 56. Other names for Conrad were Conrad Ii, Count De AUXERRE, Konrad II Of AUXERRE, Konrad Ii, Count Of AUXERRE,2540 Conrad II Margrave Of TRANSJURANIA, Conrad Ii, and Duke Of TRANSURANAL BURGUNDY.

1029681767346. Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND,415,505,1416,1444,1447,1601,1746,3099,3100 son of Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI, was born in 875 in Wessex, England,1436,3099 died on 17 July 924 in Farndon On Dee, Farrington, Berkshire, England 378,1416,1436,3099,3100 at age 49, and was buried in 924 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.1436 Other names for Edward were Édouard L'ancien, Roy Des ANGLOS-SAXONS, and WESSEX.

General Notes:
Edward, byname EDWARD THE ELDER (d. 17 July 924, Farndon on Dee, England), Anglo Saxon king in England, the son of Alfred the Great. As ruler of the West Saxons, or Wessex, from 899 to 924, Edward extended his authority over almost all of England by conquering areas that previously had been held by Danish invaders.

Edward ascended the throne upon his father's death in October 899, and in battle in 902 his forces killed a rival claimant, Aethelwald, who had allied with the Danes. After defeating the Northumbrian Danes at Tettenhall, he set out in August 912 to subdue the Danes of the eastern Midlands and East Anglia. From 910 to 916 he constructed a series of fortified enclosures around his Kingdom of Wessex.

At the same time, his sister, the Mercian ruler Aethelflaed, constructed a complementary series of fortresses in the northwest Midlands. In 917 Edward and Aethelflaed launched a massive offensive, quickly overwhelming the entire Danish army of East Anglia. Upon Aethelflaed's death in June 918, Edward assumed control of Mercia, and by the end of the year the last Danish armies in the Midlands had submitted. By that time Edward's kingdom included all the lands south of the Humber estuary; in 920 he pacified Northumbria. Complete political unification of England was achieved during the reign of his son and successor, Athelstan (reigned 924-939). [Encyclopaedia Britannica]

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Well-trained by Alfred, his son Edward 'the Elder' (reigned 899-924) was a bold soldier who defeated the Danes in Northumbria at Tettenhall in 910 and was acknowledged by the Viking kingdom of York. The kings of Strathclyde and the Scots submitted to Edward in 921. By military success and patient planning, Edward spread English influence and control. Much of this was due to his alliance with his formidable sister Aethelflaed, who was married to the ruler of Mercia and seems to have governed that kingdom after her husband's death.

Edward was able to establish an administration for the kingdom of England, whilst obtaining the allegiance of Danes, Scots and Britons. Edward died in 924, and he was buried in the New Minster which he had had completed at Winchester. Edward was twice married, but it is possible that his eldest son Athelstan was the son of a mistress.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 17 July 925. 1784

• Ruled: 3100 899-924

Edward married Ecgwyn 3101 in 893 in 1st Wife 378.,3101 Ecgwyn was born about 877 in Wessex, England.

Edward next married Aelflaed (Aelfflaed) Of WILTSHIRE,1601,1784,3101,3103 daughter of Aethelhelm Of WESSEX Ealdorman Of Wiltshire and Aethelglyth Of MERCIA, before 902 in -, Wessex, England.3101 Aelflaed was born in 852 in Wiltshire, England 378 and died on 5 December 905 378 at age 53. Other names for Aelflaed were Elfleda, Ælflese De BERNICIE, and Aelfflaed Of WILTSHIRE.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 920. 1784

Edward next married Edgiva Meapham Of SAXE-KENT,1416,1601,3099,3101 daughter of Sigehelm I Ealdorman Of KENT and Elfrida, in 919 in 3rd Wife 1416,3099.,3101 Edgiva was born in 896 in Kent County, England,378 died in 961 1416,1436,3099 at age 65, and was buried in Canterbury, Kent, England. Another name for Edgiva was Eadgifu.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 25 August 968.

Edward next married Queen Eggwyn ENGLAND 1601 about 891 in , , Wessex, England. Eggwyn was born in 874 in , , Wessex, England and died after 897.

1029681767347. Aelflaed (Aelfflaed) Of WILTSHIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,1784,3101,3103 daughter of Aethelhelm Of WESSEX Ealdorman Of Wiltshire and Aethelglyth Of MERCIA, was born in 852 in Wiltshire, England 378 and died on 5 December 905 378 at age 53. Other names for Aelflaed were Elfleda, Ælflese De BERNICIE, and Aelfflaed Of WILTSHIRE.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 920. 1784

Aelflaed married Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND 1416,1601,3099,3100 before 902 in -, Wessex, England.3101 Edward was born in 875 in Wessex, England,1436,3099 died on 17 July 924 in Farndon On Dee, Farrington, Berkshire, England 378,1416,1436,3099,3100 at age 49, and was buried in 924 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.1436 Other names for Edward were Édouard L'ancien, Roy Des ANGLOS-SAXONS, and WESSEX.

1029681770640. Hugh Du MAINE,3136 son of Hugh (Herve) Du MAINE and Unknown, was born about 910 in Le Mans, Sarthe, Maine/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France and died between 939 and 955 3136 about age 29.

Hugh married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840885320       i.  Hugh Du MAINE (born about 935 in Le Mans, Sarthe, Maine/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France - died after 992)


1029681770656. Oberto Azzo Conte Di Lucca & ESTE,415,1444,1447,3138 son of Adalbert III Marquis Di TUSCANY and Railinda, was born about 932 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died in 975 in Este, Tuscany, Italy 3138 about age 43. Other names for Oberto were Alberto Azzo Of LUCCA, Azzo, Marchese Di LUCCA, Othbert I, Count Of LUCCA, Oberto I D'este, and Conte De TORTONA.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 912. 3138

Oberto married Guilla Of SPOLETO 3138.,3285 Guilla was born about 932 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy.

Children from this marriage were:

514840885328       i.  Oberto II Conte Di Genoa & Tortone & ESTE (born about 947 in -, Este, Italy - died about 1014)

                  ii.  Adalberto, Count Of Vinunza, Marchess Of ESTE.

Oberto next married Alda.


1029681770657. Guilla Of SPOLETO,415,1444,3138,3285 daughter of Theubaldus Marquis Of SPOLETO and Unknown, was born about 932 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy.

General Notes:
Turton has Guilla, daughter of Boniface, marrying both Oberto I Marquis of Este, Count of Milan (912-975) and Umberto Marquis of Tuscany (?-961), with children by both husbands. Since both husbands lived past the dates of her children's births and there is no explanation such as divorce, it makes it doubtful that the same Guilla married both.

A posting in soc.genealogy.medieval indicates the presence of another Guilla, son of Theubaldus who was son of Boniface. Although the posting does not indicate that Guilla m. Oberto, this may well be the Guilla who m. Oberto I Marquis of Este.

Guilla married Oberto Azzo Conte Di Lucca & ESTE.3138 Oberto was born about 932 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died in 975 in Este, Tuscany, Italy 3138 about age 43. Other names for Oberto were Alberto Azzo Of LUCCA, Azzo, Marchese Di LUCCA, Othbert I, Count Of LUCCA, Oberto I D'este, and Conte De TORTONA.

1029681770658. Riprand, Count Of PIACENZA,415,1444,3138 son of Olderado Of COMO and Unknown, was born about 920 in Lake Como, Italy and died in 999 about age 79. Another name for Riprand, was Weibrand, Count Of COMO.

Riprand, married Railinda Of VERTICILIO.2400 Railinda was born about 890 in Verticilio, Italy.

The child from this marriage was:

514840885329       i.  Railenda Of RIPRANDO (born about 949 in -, Este, Italy - died in 999)


1029681770659. Railinda Of VERTICILIO,1444,2400 daughter of Auprando Count Of VERTICILIO and Unknown, was born about 890 in Verticilio, Italy.

Railinda married Riprand, Count Of PIACENZA.3138 Riprand, was born about 920 in Lake Como, Italy and died in 999 about age 79. Another name for Riprand, was Weibrand, Count Of COMO.

1029681770660. Pietro III CANDIANO Doge Of Venice,3138 son of Pietro II CANDIANO Doge Of Italy and Unknown, was born about 900 in Venice, Italy and died in 959 3138 about age 59.

Pietro married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840885330       i.  Pietro IV CANDIANO Doge Of Venice (born about 925 in Venice, Italy - died in 976 in Venice, Italy)


1029681770662. Umberto (Humbert) Marquis Of TUSCANY,3138,3285,3286 son of Hugues D'arles King Of ITALY and Vandalmode, was born about 905 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died in 961 3138 about age 56.

Umberto married Guilla Of SPOLETO,3138,3286 daughter of Boniface I Duke Of SPOLETO and Waldrada Of BURGUNDY. Guilla was born about 915 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy and died from after 7 January 977 to 78. Another name for Guilla was Willa Of CAMERINO.

Children from this marriage were:

514840885331       i.  Valdrada Of TUSCANY (born about 930 in Tuscany, Italy)

                  ii.  Hugues "Le Grand" Marquis Of TUSCANY was born about 950 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died on 21 December 1001 3285 about age 51.

                 iii.  Bertha Of TUSCANY was born about 955 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy.


1029681770663. Guilla Of SPOLETO,3138,3286 daughter of Boniface I Duke Of SPOLETO and Waldrada Of BURGUNDY, was born about 915 in Spoleto, Umbria, Italy and died from after 7 January 977 to 78. Another name for Guilla was Willa Of CAMERINO.

General Notes: Turton has Guilla, daughter of Boniface, marrying both Oberto I Marquis of Este, Count of Milan (912-975) and Umberto Marquis of Tuscany (?-961), with children by both husbands. Since both husbands lived past the dates of her children's births and there is no explanation such as divorce, it makes it doubtful that the same Guilla married both.

A posting in soc.genealogy.medieval indicates the presence of another Guilla, son of Theubaldus who was son of Boniface. Although the posting does not indicate that Guilla m. Oberto, this may well be the Guilla who m. Oberto I Marquis of Este.

Guilla married Umberto (Humbert) Marquis Of TUSCANY,3138,3285,3286 son of Hugues D'arles King Of ITALY and Vandalmode. Umberto was born about 905 in Lucca, Tuscany, Italy and died in 961 3138 about age 56.

1029681770944. Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND,415,505,1416,1444,1447,1601,1746,3099,3100 son of Alfred "The Great" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Elswitha Of Mercia, Queen Of GAINI, was born in 875 in Wessex, England,1436,3099 died on 17 July 924 in Farndon On Dee, Farrington, Berkshire, England 378,1416,1436,3099,3100 at age 49, and was buried in 924 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.1436 Other names for Edward were Édouard L'ancien, Roy Des ANGLOS-SAXONS, and WESSEX.

General Notes:
Edward, byname EDWARD THE ELDER (d. 17 July 924, Farndon on Dee, England), Anglo Saxon king in England, the son of Alfred the Great. As ruler of the West Saxons, or Wessex, from 899 to 924, Edward extended his authority over almost all of England by conquering areas that previously had been held by Danish invaders.

Edward ascended the throne upon his father's death in October 899, and in battle in 902 his forces killed a rival claimant, Aethelwald, who had allied with the Danes. After defeating the Northumbrian Danes at Tettenhall, he set out in August 912 to subdue the Danes of the eastern Midlands and East Anglia. From 910 to 916 he constructed a series of fortified enclosures around his Kingdom of Wessex.

At the same time, his sister, the Mercian ruler Aethelflaed, constructed a complementary series of fortresses in the northwest Midlands. In 917 Edward and Aethelflaed launched a massive offensive, quickly overwhelming the entire Danish army of East Anglia. Upon Aethelflaed's death in June 918, Edward assumed control of Mercia, and by the end of the year the last Danish armies in the Midlands had submitted. By that time Edward's kingdom included all the lands south of the Humber estuary; in 920 he pacified Northumbria. Complete political unification of England was achieved during the reign of his son and successor, Athelstan (reigned 924-939). [Encyclopaedia Britannica]

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Well-trained by Alfred, his son Edward 'the Elder' (reigned 899-924) was a bold soldier who defeated the Danes in Northumbria at Tettenhall in 910 and was acknowledged by the Viking kingdom of York. The kings of Strathclyde and the Scots submitted to Edward in 921. By military success and patient planning, Edward spread English influence and control. Much of this was due to his alliance with his formidable sister Aethelflaed, who was married to the ruler of Mercia and seems to have governed that kingdom after her husband's death.

Edward was able to establish an administration for the kingdom of England, whilst obtaining the allegiance of Danes, Scots and Britons. Edward died in 924, and he was buried in the New Minster which he had had completed at Winchester. Edward was twice married, but it is possible that his eldest son Athelstan was the son of a mistress.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 17 July 925. 1784

• Ruled: 3100 899-924

Edward married Ecgwyn 3101 in 893 in 1st Wife 378.,3101 Ecgwyn was born about 877 in Wessex, England.

Edward next married Aelflaed (Aelfflaed) Of WILTSHIRE,1601,1784,3101,3103 daughter of Aethelhelm Of WESSEX Ealdorman Of Wiltshire and Aethelglyth Of MERCIA, before 902 in -, Wessex, England.3101 Aelflaed was born in 852 in Wiltshire, England 378 and died on 5 December 905 378 at age 53. Other names for Aelflaed were Elfleda, Ælflese De BERNICIE, and Aelfflaed Of WILTSHIRE.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 920. 1784

Edward next married Edgiva Meapham Of SAXE-KENT,1416,1601,3099,3101 daughter of Sigehelm I Ealdorman Of KENT and Elfrida, in 919 in 3rd Wife 1416,3099.,3101 Edgiva was born in 896 in Kent County, England,378 died in 961 1416,1436,3099 at age 65, and was buried in Canterbury, Kent, England. Another name for Edgiva was Eadgifu.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 25 August 968.

Edward next married Queen Eggwyn ENGLAND 1601 about 891 in , , Wessex, England. Eggwyn was born in 874 in , , Wessex, England and died after 897.

1029681770945. Edgiva Meapham Of SAXE-KENT,415,505,1416,1444,1601,1746,3099,3101 daughter of Sigehelm I Ealdorman Of KENT and Elfrida, was born in 896 in Kent County, England,378 died in 961 1416,1436,3099 at age 65, and was buried in Canterbury, Kent, England. Another name for Edgiva was Eadgifu.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 25 August 968.

Edgiva married Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND 1416,1601,3099,3100 in 919 in 3rd Wife 1416,3099.,3101 Edward was born in 875 in Wessex, England,1436,3099 died on 17 July 924 in Farndon On Dee, Farrington, Berkshire, England 378,1416,1436,3099,3100 at age 49, and was buried in 924 in Winchester, Hampshire, England.1436 Other names for Edward were Édouard L'ancien, Roy Des ANGLOS-SAXONS, and WESSEX.

1029681770946. Sigehelm I Ealdorman Of KENT 415,1416,3099 was born in 871 in Kent County, England.

Sigehelm married Elfrida. Elfrida was born about 876 in Kent County, England.

Children from this marriage were:

1029681770945       i.  Edgiva Meapham Of SAXE-KENT (born in 896 in Kent County, England - died in 961, buried in Canterbury, Kent, England)

514840885473      ii.  St Alfgifu Of ENGLAND (born in 922 in Wessex, England - died in 944 in Shaftsbury Abbey, England)


1029681770947. Elfrida 415 was born about 876 in Kent County, England.

Elfrida married Sigehelm I Ealdorman Of KENT 1416.,3099 Sigehelm was born in 871 in Kent County, England.


1029681770976. Arpad Prince Of HUNGARY Chief Of The Magyars,415,2801,2856,2992 son of Almos Of HUNGARY Chief Of The Magyar and Unknown, was born in 840 in Pannonia, Hungary and died in 907 in Obuda, Pest, Hungary 2856,2992 at age 67. Another name for Arpad was Arpad Count Of UNGARN.

General Notes:
Under the leadership of Arpad, the Hungarian tribes settled in the low lands between the Danube and Tisza. At that time there were about one million Hungarians (Magyars), of whom 250 000 were warriors. The Magyars elected as their leader the bravest man among themselves. However, after Arpad's death, the leadreship became hereditary

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, Abt 846. 2801

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 850. 2856

Arpad married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840885488       i.  Zoltan Prince Of HUNGARY (born about 870 in Pannonia, Hungary - died in 947)


1029681770978. Marot Duke Of BIHAR 415,2856 was born in 874 in Bihar, Hungary.

Marot married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840885489       i.  Men Princess Of BIHAR (born about 900 in Bihar, Hungary)


1029681770996. Liutpold Von Babenberg, Margrave Of BAVARIA 415,1444,1447,1784,2779,2844 was born about 860 in Nordgau, Schaben, Bavaria and died on 4 July 907 in Bratislava, Brati, Slovakia (Killed In Battle) 1784,2779,2844 about age 47. Other names for Liutpold were Leopold Duke Of BAVARIA, Leopold Scheyern, Duke Of BAVARIA, Luitpold, Margrave Of The BAVARIAN OSTMARK, Luitpold, Margrave Of The CARINTHIAN MARK, Leopold, and Margrave Of NORDGAU.

Liutpold married Kunigunde (Cunigunda) Of SWABIA 1784,2844 about 885 in Bratislava, Brati, Slovakia. Kunigunde was born in 867 in Schwaben, Germany and died on 7 June 918 at age 51. Other names for Kunigunde were Cunigunde, Duchess Of BAVARIA, and SCHWABEN.

Children from this marriage were:

514840885498       i.  Arnulf I "The Bad" Duke Of BAVARIA (born in 885 in Nordgau, Schaben, Bavaria - died on 14 July 937 in Regensberg, Oberpfalz, Bavaria)

                  ii.  Berthold, Duke Of BAVARIA.


1029681770997. Kunigunde (Cunigunda) Of SWABIA,415,1444,1784,2844 daughter of Berthold Count Palatine Of SWABIA and Daughter Of Erchange Of BREISGAU, was born in 867 in Schwaben, Germany and died on 7 June 918 at age 51. Other names for Kunigunde were Cunigunde, Duchess Of BAVARIA, and SCHWABEN.

Kunigunde married Liutpold Von Babenberg, Margrave Of BAVARIA 1784,2844 about 885 in Bratislava, Brati, Slovakia. Liutpold was born about 860 in Nordgau, Schaben, Bavaria and died on 4 July 907 in Bratislava, Brati, Slovakia (Killed In Battle) 1784,2779,2844 about age 47. Other names for Liutpold were Leopold Duke Of BAVARIA, Leopold Scheyern, Duke Of BAVARIA, Luitpold, Margrave Of The BAVARIAN OSTMARK, Luitpold, Margrave Of The CARINTHIAN MARK, Leopold, and Margrave Of NORDGAU.

Kunigunde next married Conrad I, Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, son of Conrad "The Old" Count Of LOGENAHE and Glismonde Of WORMS. Conrad was born about 860 in Lahngau, Hessen-Massau, Germany and died on 23 December 918 about age 58. Another name for Conrad was Konrad I Of Franconia, King Of GERMANY.

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Cunigunde Of GERMANY was born about 900 in Wettin, Germany.


1029681770998. Zoltan Prince Of HUNGARY,415,2801,2856 son of Arpad Prince Of HUNGARY Chief Of The Magyars and Unknown, was born about 870 in Pannonia, Hungary 2992 and died in 947 2856 about age 77. Another name for Zoltan was Zsolt Count Of UNGARN.

General Notes: Magyr leader invaded western & southern Europe

933. defeated by Saxons

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, Abt 896. 2801,2856

Zoltan married Unknown 1St Wife Or MISTRESS. Unknown was born about 880 in Ungarn (German For Hungary).

Zoltan next married Men Princess Of BIHAR,2801,2856 daughter of Marot Duke Of BIHAR and Unknown, before 930. Men was born about 900 in Bihar, Hungary.2801

1029681770999. Unknown 1St Wife Or MISTRESS 415 was born about 880 in Ungarn (German For Hungary).

Unknown married Zoltan Prince Of HUNGARY,2801,2856 son of Arpad Prince Of HUNGARY Chief Of The Magyars and Unknown. Zoltan was born about 870 in Pannonia, Hungary 2992 and died in 947 2856 about age 77. Another name for Zoltan was Zsolt Count Of UNGARN.

1029681771000. Rudolph I King Of BURGUNDY,415,505,1444,1601,1746,3188 son of Conrad II Welf, Markgrave Of TRANJURANIAN BURGUNDY and Ermentrude Of HAUTE ALSACE, was born about 860 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France and died on 6 October 911 1447,2323,2539 about age 51. Other names for Rudolph were Rodolphe, Duc De BOURGOGNE, and Rudolph I Von HOCHBURGUND.

General Notes: Many people only have one wife (Willa) for Rudolph I. However I am following Turton, who has Rudolph II b. 877 by a "Gisele", who must have been a wife much earlier than Willa.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 847. 2539

Rudolph married Gisele 2151 in 1st Wife. Gisele was born about 862 in France and died before 893.

Rudolph next married Willa Of VIENNE,3189 daughter of Boso II Count Of VIENNE King Of Provence and Ermengarde De LORRAINE, before 893 in 1st Husband 2ND Wife.1447 Willa was born about 878 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France 1447 and died on 14 June 929 1447 about age 51. Other names for Willa were Willie, Gisele De BOURGOGNE, Willa De BOURGOGNE, Willa I De BOURGOGNE, Gisele De BURGUNDY, Willa Of BURGUNDY, Willa I De PROVENCE, and Willa Von SWABIA.

1029681771001. Gisele 415,505,2151 was born about 862 in France and died before 893.

Gisele married Rudolph I King Of BURGUNDY,1601,3188 son of Conrad II Welf, Markgrave Of TRANJURANIAN BURGUNDY and Ermentrude Of HAUTE ALSACE, in 1st Wife. Rudolph was born about 860 in Bourgogne, Marneogne, France and died on 6 October 911 1447,2323,2539 about age 51. Other names for Rudolph were Rodolphe, Duc De BOURGOGNE, and Rudolph I Von HOCHBURGUND.

1029681771002. Berkhard II Duke Of SWABIA,415,505,1444,2323 son of Berkhard Count Of Baar Marquis Of RHAETIA and Luitgarde Von SACHSEN, was born in 882 in Swabia, Germany and died on 26 April 926 in Ivrea at age 44. Another name for Berkhard was Buchard I Von SCHWABEN.

Berkhard married Regilinde De NULLENBURG, daughter of Eberhard II Count In The THURGAU and Gisela NULLENBERG. Regilinde was born in 887 in Swabia, Germany and died about 958 in As An Abbess In Zurich, Switzerland about age 71. Another name for Regilinde was Regilinda Of THURGAU.

The child from this marriage was:

514840885501       i.  Bertha Von SWABIA (born in 907 in Swabia, Germany - died on 11 August 967)


1029681771003. Regilinde De NULLENBURG,415,505,1444 daughter of Eberhard II Count In The THURGAU and Gisela NULLENBERG, was born in 887 in Swabia, Germany and died about 958 in As An Abbess In Zurich, Switzerland about age 71. Another name for Regilinde was Regilinda Of THURGAU.

Regilinde married Berkhard II Duke Of SWABIA, son of Berkhard Count Of Baar Marquis Of RHAETIA and Luitgarde Von SACHSEN. Berkhard was born in 882 in Swabia, Germany and died on 26 April 926 in Ivrea at age 44. Another name for Berkhard was Buchard I Von SCHWABEN.

1029681771004. Eberhard Konradiner Av NIEDERLAHNGAU,1444,1447 son of Eudes Count Of LOGENAHE and Judith WELF AND WAIBLINGEN, was born about 858 and died from 902 to 903 3095,3096 about age 44. Other names for Eberhard were Everhart The Old Of LOGENAHE, Eberhard Konradiner, Graf Im NIEDER-LAHNGAU, Eberhard, Count In The NIEDERLANDGAU 3095., and3096

Eberhard married Wiltrud. Wiltrud was born in 862 and died in 933 1447 at age 71. Another name for Wiltrud was Wildrut.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Konrad Kurzbold LOGENAHE died in 948.

                  ii.  Eberhard II LOGENAHE died in 944.

514840885502     iii.  Gebhard Konradiner, Graf Im UFGAU (born about 895 - died in 947-948)


1029681771005. Wiltrud 1444 was born in 862 and died in 933 1447 at age 71. Another name for Wiltrud was Wildrut.

Wiltrud married Eberhard Konradiner Av NIEDERLAHNGAU,1447 son of Eudes Count Of LOGENAHE and Judith WELF AND WAIBLINGEN. Eberhard was born about 858 and died from 902 to 903 3095,3096 about age 44. Other names for Eberhard were Everhart The Old Of LOGENAHE, Eberhard Konradiner, Graf Im NIEDER-LAHNGAU, Eberhard, Count In The NIEDERLANDGAU 3095., and3096

1029681771006. Hubert I De Caroling, First Count Of VERMANDOIS AND SENLIS,415,1444,1524,1601,1746,2541,2542,2543 son of Pepin I, Count Of SENLIS, ST. QUENTIN, AND PERONNE and Perrone Of VERMANDOIS, was born about 840 in Vermandois, Normandy, France,2544 died in 900 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France (Murdered) 1436,1447,2544 about age 60, and was buried in Seigneur Of Senlis, Peronne, And St Quentin. Other names for Hubert were Heribert I,2541 Herbert I, Count Of VERMANDOIS, Herbert Ier, and Comte De VERMANDOIS.

Hubert married Countess Of Vermandois Bertha (Beatrice) De MORVOIS 1601,2544 about 879 in <Vermandois, Normandy, France>. Bertha was born about 860 in Morvois, France. Another name for Bertha was Beatrice De MORVOIS.2541

1029681771007. Countess Of Vermandois Bertha (Beatrice) De MORVOIS,415,1444,1601,1746,2541,2544 daughter of Guerri I Comte De MORVOIS and Eve De ROUSSILLON, was born about 860 in Morvois, France. Another name for Bertha was Beatrice De MORVOIS.2541

Bertha married Hubert I De Caroling, First Count Of VERMANDOIS AND SENLIS 1524,1601,2543 about 879 in <Vermandois, Normandy, France>. Hubert was born about 840 in Vermandois, Normandy, France,2544 died in 900 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France (Murdered) 1436,1447,2544 about age 60, and was buried in Seigneur Of Senlis, Peronne, And St Quentin. Other names for Hubert were Heribert I,2541 Herbert I, Count Of VERMANDOIS, Herbert Ier, and Comte De VERMANDOIS.

1029681771058. Eudes I Comte De BLOIS,415,2478,2480 son of Theobald Le TRICHEUR Count Of Champagne and Luitgarde De VERMANDOIS, was born about 952 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France and died from 12 March 995 to 996 1526,2480 about age 43.

Eudes married Bertha Of ARLES,2478,2479 daughter of Count Of Paris Conrad I King Of BURGUNDY and Matilda (Maud) Princess Of FRANCE, about 983 in 1st Husband 1526.,2480 Bertha was born about 964 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2480 and died after 1010 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France 2480. Another name for Bertha was Bertha Of BURGUNDY.

1029681771059. Bertha Of ARLES,415,2478,2479 daughter of Count Of Paris Conrad I King Of BURGUNDY and Matilda (Maud) Princess Of FRANCE, was born about 964 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2480 and died after 1010 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France 2480. Another name for Bertha was Bertha Of BURGUNDY.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 1001. 2472

Bertha married Eudes I Comte De BLOIS,2478,2480 son of Theobald Le TRICHEUR Count Of Champagne and Luitgarde De VERMANDOIS, about 983 in 1st Husband 1526.,2480 Eudes was born about 952 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France and died from 12 March 995 to 996 1526,2480 about age 43.

Bertha next married Robert II "The Pious" King Of FRANCE,1601,2468,2469,2470 son of Hugues "Capet" King Of FRANCE and Adélaïde Princess Of AQUITAINE, in 995 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife - Repudiated 998.2472 Robert was born on 27 March 972 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France,2471 died on 20 July 1031 in Meulan, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France 1524,2468,2471 at age 59, and was buried in St Denis Abbey, Ile-DE-France, France.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, Abt 970. 1524,2468

• Alt. Birth: Alt. Birth, 985. 2472

• Ruled: 996-1031.

1029681771152. Eberhard IV Von Hohenburg Count Of NORDGAU,415,1444,2519,2755 son of Hugues I Count Of LOWER-ALSACE and Hildegarde De FERRETTE, was born about 910 in Alsace, France 2520 and died in 966 2520,2755 about age 56. Other names for Eberhard were Gerard, Ebergard, Count Of ALSACE, Eberhard IV De ALSACE, Eberhard, Count In The ALSATIAN NORDGAU, Eberhard Iii, Count Von LAHNGAU, Eberhard IV Count Of LOWER-ALSACE, Ebergard, and Count In The NORDGAU.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 18 December 973.

Eberhard married Luitgarde (Bertha) Von METZ,2755 daughter of Adalbert III (Adalhard) Count Von METZ and Luitgarde D' ARDENNES. Luitgarde was born about 915 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France. Another name for Luitgarde was Luitgarde Of LUXEMBOURG.

1029681771153. Luitgarde (Bertha) Von METZ,415,2755 daughter of Adalbert III (Adalhard) Count Von METZ and Luitgarde D' ARDENNES, was born about 915 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France. Another name for Luitgarde was Luitgarde Of LUXEMBOURG.

Luitgarde married Eberhard IV Von Hohenburg Count Of NORDGAU,2519,2755 son of Hugues I Count Of LOWER-ALSACE and Hildegarde De FERRETTE. Eberhard was born about 910 in Alsace, France 2520 and died in 966 2520,2755 about age 56. Other names for Eberhard were Gerard, Ebergard, Count Of ALSACE, Eberhard IV De ALSACE, Eberhard, Count In The ALSATIAN NORDGAU, Eberhard Iii, Count Von LAHNGAU, Eberhard IV Count Of LOWER-ALSACE, Ebergard, and Count In The NORDGAU.

1029681771158. Duke Of Swabia Konrad I Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN,415,1444,1447,1601,1746,1784,1849,2861,2952,3287 son of Conrad I, Duke Of ALSACE and Judith Von ÖHNINGEN, was born between 940 and 945 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany and died on 20 August 997 2952,3095,3096 about age 56. Other names for Konrad were Conrad I, Konrad I KONRADINER, Cuno I, Count D' OEHNINGEN, Kuno Count Von OHNINGEN, Kuno I Von Öhningen, Count Of RHEINFELDEN, Konrad Ii, Herzog Von SCHWABEN, Conrad Ii, Duke SWABIA, Konrad, Duke Of SWABIA 3095., and3096

General Notes:
Alan Wilson, apparently has this Konrad being the same person as Conrad I of Alsace, born 915, elsewhere in my file. His ancestry ends up with the same great-grandfather (Geberhard of NiederLandgau), who is father of both Eberhard of Niederlandgau and Gebhard of Wettergau, but does not go through Udo Count of Wetterau, as AR does. Richard Borthwick states that this is the latest thinking of several genealogists, as indicated in the latest edition of ES, but that not everyone agrees. I am NOT following Alan's line, but have given Konrad of Rheingau as an alias to Konrad of Alsace, who Alan states is the same person. @@check ancestry

Konrad married Richilde, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1849,3287 about 948 in -, Saxony, Germany. Richilde, was born about 925 in -, Saxony, Germany and died on 14 August 1014 1849 about age 89. Other names for Richilde, were Richlint OTTONEN, Mathilde I von SACHSEN,1741 Richilde Von SACHSEN, and Richlint Von SACHSEN.

Children from this marriage were:

514840885579       i.  Judith Konradiner Of OHNINGEN (born about 949 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany)

                  ii.  Konrad III Of ORTENAU was born about 965 in Ohningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany and died on 24 November 994 about age 29.

                 iii.  Lutold Von MOMPELGARD was born about 975 in Mompelgard, Germany and died after 1044.

                  iv.  Itha Von ÖHNINGEN was born in 950 in -, Saxony, Germany 2292 and died about 16 October 1020 2292 about age 70. Another name for Itha was Ita Von OENINGEN.2323

                   v.  Hermann II Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN was born about 963 in Schwaben, Germany 2323 and died on 4 May 1003 2756,3095,3096,3288 about age 40. Other names for Hermann were Hermann II KONRADINER, Herman Ii, and Duke Of SWABIA.

                  vi.  Kunigunde Von OEHNINGEN was born about 962 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany and died in 1005 about age 43.

                 vii.  Hemma, Countess Von ÖHNINGEN was born about 965 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany. Another name for Hemma, was Himma.

514840942179    viii.  Rogneda Von ÖHNINGEN (born about 968 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany - died on 14 August 1014)

Konrad next married Judith Duchess Of SWABIA 1601 in <, , Schwaben, Bavaria>. Judith was born in 914 in Of, , Schwaben, Bavaria and died in Y.




1029681771159. Richilde, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1447,1849,2861,3287 daughter of King Of The Germans Otto I "The Great" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Empress Of Germany Eadgyth (Edith) Princess Of ENGLAND, was born about 925 in -, Saxony, Germany and died on 14 August 1014 1849 about age 89. Other names for Richilde, were Richlint OTTONEN, Mathilde I von SACHSEN,1741 Richilde Von SACHSEN, and Richlint Von SACHSEN.

General Notes:
Daughter of Emperor Otto I, she was appointed the first Princess-Abbess - Reichsäbtissin - of Quedlinburg. She also acted as "domina imperialis", and followed her brother Otto II on journey to Italy and acted regent for her nephew, Otto III and as his representative in Sachsen with the additional titles of Metropolitana of Quedlinburg and Matrixcia of Sachsen (Substitute and Representive of the Emperor). She lived (955-999). 1741

Richilde, married Duke Of Swabia Konrad I Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN 1601,1784,1849,2952,3287 about 948 in -, Saxony, Germany. Konrad was born between 940 and 945 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany and died on 20 August 997 2952,3095,3096 about age 56. Other names for Konrad were Conrad I, Konrad I KONRADINER, Cuno I, Count D' OEHNINGEN, Kuno Count Von OHNINGEN, Kuno I Von Öhningen, Count Of RHEINFELDEN, Konrad Ii, Herzog Von SCHWABEN, Conrad Ii, Duke SWABIA, Konrad, Duke Of SWABIA 3095., and3096

1029681772930. Régnier I Longicullus, Count Of HAINAULT,415,1444,1882,2112,2942,2943,2944 son of Giselbert II Count Of MAASGAU and Irmengarde De LORRAINE, was born about 850 in Lorraine, France 1447,2945 and died after 25 October 915 in Meersen In The Palatine 1784,2946,2947. Other names for Régnier were Reinier I Au Long Col, Comte De HAINAUT, Regnier I Duke Of LORRAINE Count Of Hainault, Regnier I, and Duke Of LORRAINE.

General Notes:
Reginar/Regnier I, Margrave between the Meuse and the Scheldt, also Count of Hainault, the Hesbaye and several other areas in Lotharingia (modern Lorraine); lay Abbot or temporal guardian of the Abbeys of St Servais de Maestricht, St Maximin, Chevremont, Echternach and Stavelot. [Burke's Peerage]

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Regnier I, d. aft. 25 Oct 915, bef. 19 Jan 916, Count of Hainault; m. (2) Alberade of Mons; m. (1) Hersent of France, dau. of Charles II. [Ancestral Roots line 140-17]

Note: Stewart Baldwin reports on speculation that Reginar was also married to Erentrude of France. She would probably be his 2nd wife. See notes under Ermentrude.

Note: Turton has Regnier married (apparently as his only wife) to Albreda, who may be Alberade of Mons, his 2nd or 3rd wife.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 916. 2112

Régnier married Hersent, Princess De FRANCE 2943 in 880 in 1st Wife 2945.,2948 Hersent, was born in 865 in France and died about 890 about age 25.

Régnier next married Ermentrude Princess Of FRANCE 1784,2944,2949 about 890 in 2ND Wife - Possibly.2944 Ermentrude was born in 870 in Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France.2949 Other names for Ermentrude were Ermentrude Von FRANCIA, and2950 Ermentrude Of West FRANKS.

Régnier next married Alberade (Albreda) Of MONS 1784,2112,2943 about 896 in 2ND Wife 2945.,2948 Alberade was born about 880 in Mons, Lorraine, France and died in 916 2945,2951 about age 36. Other names for Alberade were Alberade Of LORRAINE, Albreda Of LORRAINE, Alberade Of MONS, and Albrada De MONS.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 919. 1784

1029681772931. Alberade (Albreda) Of MONS 415,1444,1784,2112,2943,2948 was born about 880 in Mons, Lorraine, France and died in 916 2945,2951 about age 36. Other names for Alberade were Alberade Of LORRAINE, Albreda Of LORRAINE, Alberade Of MONS, and Albrada De MONS.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 919. 1784

Alberade married Régnier I Longicullus, Count Of HAINAULT 1882,2112,2942,2943,2944 about 896 in 2ND Wife 2945.,2948 Régnier was born about 850 in Lorraine, France 1447,2945 and died after 25 October 915 in Meersen In The Palatine 1784,2946,2947. Other names for Régnier were Reinier I Au Long Col, Comte De HAINAUT, Regnier I Duke Of LORRAINE Count Of Hainault, Regnier I, and Duke Of LORRAINE.

1029681772932. Richwin Count Of VERDUN 415,1444,2748 was born about 875 in Verdun, Meuse, Lorraine, France and died in 923 in Aachen, Rheinland, Prussia 2748,2749 about age 48.

Richwin married Cunégonde Of The WEST FRANKS,1784,2432,2748 daughter of Régnier I Longicullus, Count Of HAINAULT and Ermentrude Princess Of FRANCE, about 920 in 2ND Husband.2748 Cunégonde was born about 890 in Aix-La-Chapelle [Aachen], Rhineland, Prussia 2748 and died after 923 1784. Another name for Cunégonde was Kunigunde Von FRANCIA.

1029681772933. Cunégonde Of The WEST FRANKS,415,1444,1784,2432,2748,2750 daughter of Régnier I Longicullus, Count Of HAINAULT and Ermentrude Princess Of FRANCE, was born about 890 in Aix-La-Chapelle [Aachen], Rhineland, Prussia 2748 and died after 923 1784. Another name for Cunégonde was Kunigunde Von FRANCIA.

General Notes:
Cunegonde, daughter of Ermentrude by unknown father, b. ca 890; m. (1) Wigeric, d. 919, Count in the Triergau, Count Palatine of Aachen; m. (2) ca. 920, Richwin, d. 923, Count of Verdun. [Ancestral Roots line 143-18]

The following information was supplied by Curt Hofemann, [email protected] (Note that Stewart Baldwin discounted the pedigree outlined below where Giselbert was 3rd husband of Cunegonde and father of Siegfried; among other reasons were that Reignar being husband of Ermentrude would account for many of the onomastic evidence; I have chosen to represent that relationship instead of a 3rd husband for Cunegonde):

Birth: ABT 890 in Aachen, Rheinland, Prussia

Not to flog a dead horse, but France did not exist at this time & "Rheinland, Prussia" did not exist until nearly 1,000 years later. Until 923, when Charles the Simple was deposed, it was part of the kingdom of the West Franks & after 923 it was part of the kingdom of the East Franks under Henry I of Saxony.

My notes (sorry, quite long) on Cunegonde/Kunegunde gdau of Louis II king of West Franks:

Enkelin von Kg Ludwig d Stammler [Ref: ES VI:127] (granddaughter of King Louis the Stammerer...Curt)

Kunigunde (dau. of Ermentrud dau. of Louis II) married twice - first before 910 to the count palatine Wigerich (d. before 919) and secondly in about 920 to Richwin (d.923) count of Verdun. A charter of Charles III of 911/15 to Wigerich (comes Widricus) names W's wife and one of his sons, Adelbero, whom the king says is his (the king's) nephew (nostri nepotis). [Ref: Richard Borthwick 28 Mar 1998]

To my knowledge, there is no documentary evidence for the identity of Kunigund's father. Reginar I, count of Hainaut (father of Giselbert, duke of Lorraine and son of another Giselbert), has been suggested as one possibility, apparently for onomastic reasons. (Kunigund had a grandson named Reginar, and a son named Giselbert.) [Ref: Stewart Baldwin 16 Mar 2002]

Kunigunde, who was married twice: first with the Pfalzgrafen Wigerich, count in the Bidgau (+ 916 or 918), in second with the count Richwin von Verdun (murdered 923). She is the foundress of two family trunks. [Ref: The controversy over the marriage of the count Otto von Hammerstein, A consequence-fraught church-political decline in discipline by Dr. Johannes Jacobi http://www.burg-hammerstein.de/pageID_746207.html]

Cunegonde, dau. of Ermentrude, herself a daughter of King Louis II (king of France) 9892, married 1) to Wigeric, count of the Palace of Charles III, + between 916 and 919; married 2) to Ricuin, count of Verdun. She had 7 children, 3 of whom were born to Wigeric, namely Adalbero, bishop of Metz, Liutgarde and Gozlin [Ref: Thierry Stasser 18 Nov 2002 citing: Michel Parisse, genealogie de la Maison d'Ardenne, in Publications de la section historique de l'Institut grand Ducal de Luxembourg, vol. 95, 1981, pp 17-40]

Research note: speculation flws:
A paper was brought to my attention that deals with Siegfried of Luxembourg and his origin. It's "Wer Waren die Eltern des Grafen Sigfrid? Eine neue Hypothese zum Ursprung des ersten Luxemburger Grafenhauses", by René Klein, published in Annuaire - A.L.G.H. - Jahrbuch 1998, page 8-27, with 14 geanlogical charts.

The author reflects on the earlier efforts to shed light on Siegfried's origins. Investigators like Depoin (1904, 1907), Kimpen (1954), Brière (1962), Haag (1963), Settipani (1994), Wolf (1994) and the resulting consangineus (im-)possibilities. Then he turns to the known evidence regarding Siegfried and his kin.

With the identity of his mother as Kunigunde as a starting point he looks at the Latin terminology like "patruus", "germanus" and "frater and their classic and medieval meanings, and the evidence from the contemporary records. An evaluation of this leads to his conclusion that Kunigunde married 3 times:

1. Wigerich (c.907), with Adalbero, Gozlin and Liutgard as children,
2. Richwin + 923,
3. Giselbert + 939, duke of Lorraine 928-939.

For Giselbert it was his first marriage. This must have been in 923 or the following year. From this marriage Friedrich, Giselbert and Sigebert/Sigfrid must stem. In 929 Kunigunde must have died and king Heinrich I gave him his daughter Gerberga (just in the marriageble age) as wife. From this marriage came a son Heinrich and 2 or 3 daughters: Wiltrud, Alberada and possible Hedwig. Giselbert drowned in 939 and Geberga was married in the same year to the French Ludwig IV. [Ref: Hans Vogels <[email protected]> 17 Apr 2003 message to Gen-Medieval] Note: Giselbert = ID 4575... Curt

What is the evidence put forward for this? It is not hard to guess that part of the argument will be onomastic (e.g., the presence of the name Giselbert among Siegfried's relations). However, even if you accept the presence of the name as indicating a relationship, that is certainly not enough to nail down any specific connection. What other evidence is advanced for the claim? [Ref: Stewart Baldwin]

Stewart,
René Klein mentions 5 consequences from this choice:
1. Onomastic. Its gives a good explanation for the names Giselbert in de next three generations (brother, son and grandson of Siegfried). The name Reginar for a son of Gozlin can be explained as following: Giselbert was the step-father of Gozlin so Giselberts own brother Reginar could therefore be the godfather of the stepgrandson.

2. The marriage between Friedrich (Siegfrieds brother) and Beatrix, the sister of Hugo Capet en Hedwig, sister of Geberga and Otto I becomes clear. Friedrich had met the princess at the French court because his stepmother Geberga married king Ludwig IV. And Friedrich was a relative of the said Ludwig IV by means of his mother Kunigunde, daughter of Irmentrud, daughter of Ludwig II, the grandfather of Ludwig IV.

3. The relationship between empress Kunigunde, daughter of Siegfried, and empress Agnes, the wife of Heinrich III as "consanguineae" can be satisfyingly explained. Agnes was a daughter of Irmentrud, daughter of Alberade, daugther of duke Giselbert, the father of Siegfried.

4. It also sheds light on the reason why in 1017 at the marriage of Mathilde, descendant of Gozlin, with Reginar V of Hennegau, descendant of Reginar (+ 915), emperor Heinrich II the objections - of being too consanguineous - of bishop Gerhard of Cambrai did not check.

Renn (1941) tried to determine the consanguinity between them through Reginar, the aledged husband of Irmintrud and father of Kunigunde, but came to a forbidden 4th degree. He suspected that the emperors motives to stay silent were political.

In the hypothesis of Klein both marriage partners were just relatives in the 5th degree:
Duke Otto of Sachsen-Uda-Uda-Godfrid-Hermann-Mathilde x 1017
Duke Otto of Sachsen-Heinrich I-Hedwig-Hugo Capet-Hedwig-Reginar V x 1017
Heinrich II spoke out energeticly at the synod of Diedenhofen 1004/5 for a ban on marriages in the 3th and 4th degree and got his way. His suggestion to stick to the canonical 7 th degree as being the allowed degree of consanguity did not get through. The marriage of 1017 was of such a degree that he did not need to act.

5. After all those earlier attempts the mysterious adressing of Sigfrid as "imperatorius frater" has now been solved. Giselbert, Sigfrids father, had secondly married Geberga, the sister of Otto I. The children of this marriage were therefore the "stiefgeschwister" (halfbrother/sisters) of Sigfrid. He was thus a "stiefvetter" (stepcousin) of emperor Otto II. As we have seen before, that the meaning "vetter" (cousin) can be translated with "frater" (brother), and that often no difference was made, just like today, between halfbrothers and full brothers, the adressing of Sigfrid can be translated as imperial stepcousin. This thus explains why there is no mentioning of Sigfrid as a relative of the Ottonen (no actual kinship existed) and why nevertheless Sigfrid and his son Sigfrid stood in a special way to the Ottonen. Therefore Kunigunde could marry Heinrich II without any obstacles regarding Church Law.

One can argue that duke Giselbert could not marry Kunigunde. His grandfather Giselbert kidnapped and married in 846 a daughter of emperor Lothar I.

Ludwig I- Lothar I- N.N.x Giselbert-Reginar-Giselbert x Ludwig I-Karl-Ludwig II-Irmintrud-Kunigunde x
Against this objection one can point out that in the charters the father of Reginar never is mentioned by name. Furthermore it is not definitely decided if we have to accept Reginar (+ 876) or Giselbert, earl in the "pagus Masau", as grandfather of duke Giselbert. Others are against the association of the earl of the "pagus Masau" with Giselbert the kidnapper. If ever this can be proved, it still does not need to be an argument against my hypothesis.

The synode of Diedenhofen was in 1004/5 and Giselbert and Kunigunde were married around 924. As the synode spoke of abuses, the marriages in the 3th and 4th degree must have been more frequently as the sources tell.

This according to René Klein. I hope my translation did justice to the text of the paper. [Ref: Hans Vogels <[email protected]> 22 Apr 2003 message to Gen-Medieval]

In #3 of your post today, you stated concerning Agnes, wife of the Emperor Henry III, that
"The relationship between empress Kunigunde, daughter of Siegfried, and empress Agnes, the wife of Heinrich III as "consanguineae" can be satisfyingly explained. Agnes was a daughter of Irmentrud, daughter of Alberade, daugther of duke Giselbert, the father of Siegfried."

This construction conflates Agnes of Poitou, daughter of Guillaume V of Aquitaine and wife of Henry III, with her mother Agnes of the Franche-Comte, daughter of Otto-William of the Franche-Comte and Irmintrud/Ermentrude de Roucy. [Ref: John P. Ravilious 22 Apr 2003]

Research note: Kunigunde von Francia married (1) Wigeric von Aachen; married (2) Eberhard IV von Nordgau; married (3) Richwin de Verdun. [Ref: Utz 4 Jan 1999 citing: Royalty for Commoners & Weis AR7] Note: Eberhard IV was her son-in-law in most reliable sources (which RfC definitely is not)... my opinion only... Curt

Regards,
Curt

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To add a little data to Cunegonde/Kundegunde:

born: 890/895 [Ref: ES II:1] abt 870/90 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p126] abt 890 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p21, Weis AR7 143] abt 895 [Ref: Settipani Capet #7], mother: [Ref: ES II:1, Moriarty Plantagenet p21, 126, & 247, Settipani Capet #7, Weis AR7 143]

Research note 1: brother: Duke Gieselbert of Lotharingia [Ref: Donald Jackman 7 Dec 2000]

Research note 2: Citing Renn, it is stated that the father of Wigerich's wife Kunigund was probably Reginar of Hainaut (father of duke Giselbert of Lorraine), called a a "well-supported reconstruction" by Professor Jackman. He also makes an onomastic argument that Siegfried's (of Luxemburg, son of Cunigunde) wife Hadwige was a daughter of Giselbert of Lorraine. Now, since it is not reasonable to suppose that Siegfried and Hadwige were first cousins, it is impossible for both of the above reconstructions to be true if Siegfried was Kunigund's son... Although I still remain undecided about identity of Siegfried's father, the standard scenario that Siegfried was either a sbling or half-sibling of Wigerich's children seems well supported to me. [Ref: Stewart Baldwin 16 Mar 2002]

Research note 3: To my knowledge, there is no documentary evidence for the identity of Kunigund's father. Reginar I, count of Hainaut (father of Giselbert, duke of Lorraine and son of another Giselbert), has been suggested as one possibility, apparently for onomastic reasons. (Kunigund had a grandson named Reginar, and a son named Giselbert.) [Ref: Stewart Baldwin 16 Mar 2002]

married Wigeric: 907/909 [Ref: ES VI:127] before 910 [Ref: Moriarty p126] first marriage of Cunegunde [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p247, Settipani Capet #7, Weis AR7 143], names: [Ref: ES II:1, Moriarty Plantagenet p21]

married 2nd Richwin/Ricuin: about 920 [Ref: Weis AR7 #143] abt 920 [Ref: Moriarty Plantagenet p21] second marriage of Cunegunde [Ref: ES VI:127, Moriarty Plantagenet p247]

died: after 930 [Ref: Settipani Capet #7] nach (after) 923 [Ref: ES VI:127]

Regards,
Curt

Cunégonde married Wigeric De La Troesgau, Count Palatine Of AACHEN,2432,2748,2751 son of Sigebert Of VERDUN and Kunigund Of PROVENCE, in 910 in 1st Husband 2748.,2751 Wigeric was born about 882 in Trier, Rhrinland-Pfalz, Germany 2520 and died before June 919 1784,2748,2749,2751,2752,2753. Other names for Wigeric were Wigeric Count Palatine Of AACHEN,2748 Wigeric Von AACHEN,2752 Wigeric, Count Palatine Von AACHEN, Wigeric, Pfalzgraf Von AACHEN, Wigeric Count Of Triergau & ARDENNES, Wigric (Wigerich) Count In The BIDGAU, Wigerich Count Of LUXEMBOURG, Wigeric De La Thiergau, Count Of LUXEMBURG, Wigeric Of Luxemburg, Comte De La THIERGAU, Wigeric De TREVES, Wigéric De TRÈVES, Wigeric, Count Of TRIER AND ARDENNES, TRIERGAU AND ARDENNES, Wigeric Count Of TRIESGAU,1784 TROESGAU, Wigeric, and Count Of VERDUN.

Cunégonde next married Richwin Count Of VERDUN 2748 about 920 in 2ND Husband.2748 Richwin was born about 875 in Verdun, Meuse, Lorraine, France and died in 923 in Aachen, Rheinland, Prussia 2748,2749 about age 48.

1029681772938. Count Robert I Comte De Meaux & TROYES,415,1444,1601,1746,2897,2903,2932 son of Herbert II Count Of Troyes & VERMANDOIS and Liegarde (Hildebrand) Princess Of FRANCE, was born about 920 in Meaux, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France 2901 and died on 29 August 968 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France 2547,2901,2902 about age 48. Other names for Robert were Robert, Count Of CHAMPAIGNE, Robert I Comte De MEAUX & Troyes, Robert De Vermandois, Count Of TROYES AND CHALONS, Robert De VERMANDOIS, and2903 Robert De VERMANDOIS Comte De Meaux & Troyes.2899

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 19 June 966. 2716

Robert married Countess Adelaide Of BURGUNDY 1601,2716,2897,2898 before 944 in 1st Husband.2900 Adelaide was born about 928 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France and died after 19 August 967 2899. Another name for Adelaide was Adelaide De CHALON.

1029681772939. Countess Adelaide Of BURGUNDY,415,1601,1746,2716,2897,2898 daughter of Duke Giselbert Count Of Chalons & BURGUNDY and Ermengarde De BURGUNDY, was born about 928 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France and died after 19 August 967 2899. Another name for Adelaide was Adelaide De CHALON.

Noted events in her life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, Abt 959. 2898

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 987.

Adelaide married Count Robert I Comte De Meaux & TROYES 1601,2897 before 944 in 1st Husband.2900 Robert was born about 920 in Meaux, Seine-Et-Marne, Ile-DE-France, France 2901 and died on 29 August 968 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France 2547,2901,2902 about age 48. Other names for Robert were Robert, Count Of CHAMPAIGNE, Robert I Comte De MEAUX & Troyes, Robert De Vermandois, Count Of TROYES AND CHALONS, Robert De VERMANDOIS, and2903 Robert De VERMANDOIS Comte De Meaux & Troyes.2899

Adelaide next married Lambert D' AUTUN Count Of Chalon,1601,2693,2734 son of Robert Vicomte D' AUTUN and Ingeltrude, after 968 in 2ND Husband. Lambert was born in 924 in Autun, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died from 22 February 978 to 979 in Chalon-Sur-Saone, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France 2734 at age 54. Another name for Lambert was Lambert De CHALON.

1029681772968. Lothar I Count Von WALBECK & Stade,1784 son of Lothar Count Of STADE and Oda Of SAXONY, was born about 875 in Walbeck, Saxony, Prussia and died on 5 September 929 in Lenzen, Germany (Slain Fighting Wends) 1784 about age 54.

Lothar married Swanhilde HAMALAND. Swanhilde was born about 883 in Germany.

The child from this marriage was:

514840886484       i.  Lothar II Count Von WALBECK & Stade (born about 925 in Walbeck, Saxony, Prussia - died on 3 December 991 in Lenzen, Germany)


1029681772969. Swanhilde HAMALAND was born about 883 in Germany.

Swanhilde married Lothar I Count Von WALBECK & Stade,1784 son of Lothar Count Of STADE and Oda Of SAXONY. Lothar was born about 875 in Walbeck, Saxony, Prussia and died on 5 September 929 in Lenzen, Germany (Slain Fighting Wends) 1784 about age 54.

1029681772978. Eberhard Count Of SULICHGAU,1784,2844 son of Conte Unroch (Hunroch) III Margrave Of FRIULI and Ava De TOURS, was born about 865 in Friuli, Italy and died after 888 2844. Another name for Eberhard was Eberhard Graf SEULICHGAU.

Eberhard married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840886489       i.  Jutte (Judith) Grafin Von SULICHGAU (born in 894 in Friuli, Italy - died before 924)


1029681772982. Bruno Count Of ARNEBURG 1784 was born about 910 in Arneburg, Germany and died about 19 October 1017 1784 about age 107.

Bruno married Frederik Von RINGLEHEIM.2400 Frederik was born about 915 in Germany.

The child from this marriage was:

514840886491       i.  Mathilde Von ARNEBURG (born about 935 in Germany - died on 3 December 990)


1029681772983. Frederik Von RINGLEHEIM 2400 was born about 915 in Germany.

Frederik married Bruno Count Of ARNEBURG.1784 Bruno was born about 910 in Arneburg, Germany and died about 19 October 1017 1784 about age 107.

1029681774080. Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES,415,1444,2232,2400 son of Richard Meroving De CHAUNOIS and Unknown, was born in 868 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France and died on 6 December 925 at age 57.

Garnier married Teutberga De ARLES,2232,2400 daughter of Theobald I Count Of ARLES and Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay. Teutberga was born about 881 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 30 September 948. Other names for Teutberga were Thietberge, and Teutberge Of ARLON.

1029681774081. Teutberga De ARLES,415,1444,2232,2400 daughter of Theobald I Count Of ARLES and Bertha Princess Of LORRAINE Abbess Of Avenay, was born about 881 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died before 30 September 948. Other names for Teutberga were Thietberge, and Teutberge Of ARLON.

Teutberga married Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES,2232,2400 son of Richard Meroving De CHAUNOIS and Unknown. Garnier was born in 868 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France and died on 6 December 925 at age 57.

1029681774145. Roscille D' ANJOU,415,1601,1746 daughter of Foulques I "Le Roux" Comte D' ANJOU and Countess Of Anjou Rosalie (Roscille) De LOCHES, was born about 910 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France.

Roscille married in 1st Husband.

The child from this marriage was:

514840887072       i.  Bovin Seigneur De MONCEAU-LE-COMTE (born about 938 in Maers, Nievre, Bourgogne, France - died in 1015 in Monceau-Le-Comte, Nievre, Bourgogne, France)

Roscille married Landricun NEVERS.1601 Landricun was born in <Of, , Anjou, France> and died in Y.

Roscille next married Alain "Barbetorte" Count Of BRETAGNE.1601 Alain was born in <Of, , Anjou, France> and died in Y.


1029681774168. Walter I Count Of Vexin & Amiens & VALOIS,415,2880,2975,3048,3049 son of Raoul De Cambrai Count Of Valois & VEXIN and Ligardis (Liegarde) Countess Of MEULAN, was born about 925 in Valois Now Oise, Picardy, France and died between 992 and 998 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France 3048,3049 about age 67. Another name for Walter was Gautier I Count Of VEXIN.

General Notes: Walter I, Count of Amiens and probably Vexin and Valois; married Adela, probably daughter of Fulk I, Count of Anjou, and died 992-98. [Burke's Peerage]

Gautier I Count of Valois & Vexin, d. 992/998. [Alan B. Wilson]

Walter married Adele D' ANJOU,2975,3048,3050 daughter of Foulques I "Le Roux" Comte D' ANJOU and Countess Of Anjou Rosalie (Roscille) De LOCHES. Adele was born about 925 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France.

1029681774169. Adele D' ANJOU,415,2975,3048,3050 daughter of Foulques I "Le Roux" Comte D' ANJOU and Countess Of Anjou Rosalie (Roscille) De LOCHES, was born about 925 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France.

Adele married Walter I Count Of Vexin & Amiens & VALOIS,2880,2975,3048,3049 son of Raoul De Cambrai Count Of Valois & VEXIN and Ligardis (Liegarde) Countess Of MEULAN. Walter was born about 925 in Valois Now Oise, Picardy, France and died between 992 and 998 in Amiens, Somme, Picardy, France 3048,3049 about age 67. Another name for Walter was Gautier I Count Of VEXIN.

1029681774178. Hugh Count Of Palatine & VIENNE,415,1444,2232,2400 son of Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES and Teutberga De ARLES, was born about 900 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France and died about 948 about age 48.

Hugh married Willa Of BURGUNDY, daughter of Richard I "The Justiciar" Duke Of BURGUNDY and Adelaide Of AUXERRE. Willa was born about 900 in Bourgogne, France.

Children from this marriage were:

514840940576       i.  Gerald (Humbert) Of GENEVA (born about 935 in Geneva, Switzerland - died in 976)

514840887089      ii.  Theodeberge (Theutberge) Of VIENNE (born about 945 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France - died after 13 April 1013)


1029681774179. Willa Of BURGUNDY,415 daughter of Richard I "The Justiciar" Duke Of BURGUNDY and Adelaide Of AUXERRE, was born about 900 in Bourgogne, France.

Willa married Hugh Count Of Palatine & VIENNE,2232,2400 son of Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES and Teutberga De ARLES. Hugh was born about 900 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France and died about 948 about age 48.

1029681774180. Etienne II De BRIOUDE 415,2685 was born about 940 in Brioude, Haute-Loire, Auvergne, France and died before 972 in Gevaudan, Alpes-DE-Haute-Provence, Provence, France. Another name for Etienne was Etienne II De GEVAUDAN.

Etienne married Countess Of Toulouse Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' ANJOU [Countess Of Gevaf 1524,1601,2685,2686,2687 in 1st Husband.2685 Adelaide was born about 945 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France 2688 and died in 1026 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2682 about age 81.

1029681774181. Countess Of Toulouse Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' ANJOU [Countess Of Gevaf,415,1524,1601,1746,2685,2686,2687 daughter of Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte D' ANJOU Count Of Anjou and Countess Of Anjou Gerberga De GATINAIS, was born about 945 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France 2688 and died in 1026 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2682 about age 81.

General Notes:
The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 Jul 2000, by Todd A Farmerie:

From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Adelaide d'Anjou (was Tiburge d'Orange)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/30

TatjanaAV wrote:

Blanche appears to have been more of a nickname. She is better known as
Adelaide, wife of Stephen of Gevaudan, Raymond of Toulouse, Louis V of
France, and William of Provence.

So... This Adelaide was indeed married to Raymond de Toulouse? I've seen this
in only one account--all others do not have Raymond in the genealogy at all
(Guillaume III is recorded as the son Raymond III Pons de Toulouse and Garsinde
de Rouergue).

Yes. This was only recently rediscovered. There is a surviving charter in which Guillaume names his wife Emma and mother Adelaide, and there is every reason to think this was the same Adelaide, known to have married "Count Raimond". The chronology is aufully long to have William a son of Raymond Pons as well, and the near-contemporary Roda Codex gives Raymond Pons no son William, but does give him a son Raymond. These make it evident that a reworking is in order.

When were Adelaide's parents married? I've seen it as 937, when
she was supposedly born in 930, and has Guillaume III in 947.

I don't think there is enough information to provide such a date. Certainly both of them you give are nothing more than guesses, and need to be adjusted. As to William's birth, this date is wrong, based on his mistaken placement as son of Raymond Pons. A more recent guess is about 975.

Who are ALL of her children (with the correct fathers)?

Stasser gives her the following:

by Etienne de Brioude:
1. Pons de Gevaudan
2. Bertrand de Brioude
3. Etienne de Brioude
4. Ermengarde/Humberge, Countess of Auvergne
5?. daughter, wife of Herbert of Troyes

by Raymond:
6. Guillaume Taillefer
7?. Toda/Adelaide, Countess of Besalu (I question this one)
8?. Letgarde

by Guillaume II of Provence:
9. Guillaume III
10. Constance, Queen of France

taf

Adelaide married Etienne II De BRIOUDE 2685 in 1st Husband.2685 Etienne was born about 940 in Brioude, Haute-Loire, Auvergne, France and died before 972 in Gevaudan, Alpes-DE-Haute-Provence, Provence, France. Another name for Etienne was Etienne II De GEVAUDAN.

Adelaide next married Raymond V Taillefer Count Of TOULOUSE 2151,2689,2690 about 972 in 2ND Husband.2685 Raymond was born in 947 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France 2151 and died about 990 about age 43.

Adelaide next married Louis V "The Do-Nothing" King Of FRANCE,2687 son of Lothair Carolingien, King Of FRANCE and Unknown, in 982 in 3rd Husband - Divorced 984.2691 Louis was born in 967 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France 2687 and died between 21 and 22 May 987 in (Dsp) 2687.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 979-986 (joint with father), 986-987. 2692

Adelaide next married Guillaume III TAILLEFER Count Of Toulouse,1601 son of Duke Raymond III Pons Of TOULOUSE Count Of Toulouse and Countess Garsinde TOULOUSE, about 973 in , , , France. Guillaume was born about 947 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, France and died in September 1037 about age 90.

Adelaide next married William II Count Of Arles & PROVENCE 1524,2681 after 984 in 4th Husband 2ND Wife.2685 William was born in 950 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France,2682 died in 994 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2683 at age 44, and was buried in Died As A Monk In Avignon, France.

1029681881128. Werner Count Of Speyergau & WORMS,415,1444,3289,3290 son of Conrad "The Old" Count Of LOGENAHE and Glismonde Of WORMS, was born about 888 in Speyergau, Rheinland, Germany and died in 917 about age 29.

Werner married Cunigunde Of GERMANY, daughter of Conrad I, Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Kunigunde (Cunigunda) Of SWABIA. Cunigunde was born about 900 in Wettin, Germany.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940564       i.  Conrad II "The Wise" Duke Of LORRAINE (born about 918 in Lorraine, France - died on 10 August 955 in Killed In Battle Of Lechfeld)


1029681881129. Cunigunde Of GERMANY,415,1444 daughter of Conrad I, Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Kunigunde (Cunigunda) Of SWABIA, was born about 900 in Wettin, Germany.

Cunigunde married Werner Count Of Speyergau & WORMS,3290 son of Conrad "The Old" Count Of LOGENAHE and Glismonde Of WORMS. Werner was born about 888 in Speyergau, Rheinland, Germany and died in 917 about age 29.


1029681881130. King Of The Germans Otto I "The Great" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1601,1746,3104,3155,3291,3292 son of Duke Of Saxony Heinrich I "The Fowler" King Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Queen Of The Germans Matilda, Countess Of RINGELHEIM, was born on 23 November 912 in Saxony, Germany 1436,2322 and died on 7 May 973 in Memleben, Saxony, Germany 1436,2322,2323 at age 60. Other names for Otto were Otto The Illustrious, Otto I The Great, and King Of GERMANY.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 936-973

Otto married Empress Of Germany Eadgyth (Edith) Princess Of ENGLAND 1601,3104 in 930 in <Saxony, , Germany>.1436 Eadgyth was born about 910 in Wessex, England and died from 26 January 946 to 947 2322,3104 about age 36. Another name for Eadgyth was Edith.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Liudolf, Duke Of SWABIA was born in 930 in Swabia, Germany.1436

1029681771159      ii.  Richilde, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE (born about 925 in -, Saxony, Germany - died on 14 August 1014)

514840940565     iii.  Luitgarde Princess of HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE (born about 931 in Saxony, Germany - died on 18 November 953)



Otto next married Empress Of The Holy Roman Adelheid Princess Of BURGUNDY St,1601,3148,3293 daughter of Rudolph II Of Burgundy, King Of ITALY and Bertha Von SWABIA, in 951 in <Saxony, , Germany> 1436,2322,2323.,3146 Adelheid was born about 931 in Of, , Bourgogne, France 1436,3146 and died on 17 December 999 in , Selz, Alsace, France 2323,3146 about age 68. Other names for Adelheid were Adelheida, by God's gift Empress, by herself a poor sinner and God's maidservant,1741 BOURGOGNE, Adelaide Of BURGUNDY, Adelheide Of BURGUNDY, and Adelheid HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE.1741

Noted events in her life were:

• Title:

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Henry was born in 952.1436

                  ii.  Otto II Rufus Of Saxony, Co-Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE was born in 955 in -, Saxony, Germany 1436,3294 and died on 7 December 983 in Rome, , Lazio, Italy 1436,3294 at age 28.

                 iii.  Bruno was born in 953.1436

                  iv.  Matilda, Abess Of QUEDLINBURG was born about 954 in -, Saxony, Germany.

                   v.  William, Archbishop Of MAINZ.


1029681881131. Empress Of Germany Eadgyth (Edith) Princess Of ENGLAND,415,505,1444,1601,1746,3104,3155 daughter of Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Aelflaed (Aelfflaed) Of WILTSHIRE, was born about 910 in Wessex, England and died from 26 January 946 to 947 2322,3104 about age 36. Another name for Eadgyth was Edith.

Eadgyth married King Of The Germans Otto I "The Great" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1601,3104,3292 in 930 in <Saxony, , Germany>.1436 Otto was born on 23 November 912 in Saxony, Germany 1436,2322 and died on 7 May 973 in Memleben, Saxony, Germany 1436,2322,2323 at age 60. Other names for Otto were Otto The Illustrious, Otto I The Great, and King Of GERMANY.

Eadgyth next married in 930.


1029681881132. Arnulf I "The Bad" Duke Of BAVARIA,415,1444,1447,1784,2844,2993,3142 son of Liutpold Von Babenberg, Margrave Of BAVARIA and Kunigunde (Cunigunda) Of SWABIA, was born in 885 in Nordgau, Schaben, Bavaria 1447,3143 and died on 14 July 937 in Regensberg, Oberpfalz, Bavaria 1436,2779,2844,3143,3144 at age 52. Other names for Arnulf were Arnulf Der Böse, Le Mauvais=The Bad, Arnolphus I Count Of MALUS, Adalbert II Of THURGAU, Adalbert Ii, and Count De THURGOVIE.

General Notes:
I originally had Arnolphous Count of Malus & Arnulf "The Bad" Duke of Bavaria, as two different people, until I noticed the similarity in names, the approximate birth/death dates, and the parents indicated (Arnolphous' parents were Luitpold Count of Carinthia & Cunigunde of Swabia). Which leads me to believe that Arnolphous & Arnulf were one and the same person. I have not found "Malus" on any map, but it certainly could be a synonym for "Bad". Carol Collins, in her post to SGM, named him "Arnolph Malus, Duke of Bavarioa", which seems awfully close to "Arnulf the Bad, Duke of Bavaria".

Agnes was considered to be a wife of Count Malus, and she could have been a mistress (or pagan wife) while Arnulf was married to Judith, or Agnes could have been his 2nd wife, making her also mother of Arnulf's younger son Leopold. Judy Collins had Agnes as daughter of a different Prince of Hungary (Toxus), but her dates had him born about the same time as I have Zoltan in the line I was following. I am not sure which Prince of Hungary was her father? @@@check ancestry

Turton has Gerberga of Wurzburg as Arnulf's only wife and mother of all of his children. Since Turton has the eldest son Arnulf II born 907, which is before Arnulf's marriage to Judith (910), I am making Gerberga Arnulf's 1st wife and mother of Arnulf, with the remainder of the children by his other two wives.

Noted events in his life were:

• Acceded: 907. 1436

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 938.

Arnulf married Jutte (Judith) Grafin Von SULICHGAU,1784,2844 daughter of Eberhard Count Of SULICHGAU and Unknown, about 910 2779.,2844 Jutte was born in 894 in Friuli, Italy and died before 924. Another name for Jutte was Jeutte Von SEULICHGAU.

Arnulf next married Gerberga Of WURZBURG 3142 in 1st Wife. Gerberga was born about 890 and died before 910.

Arnulf next married Agnes Of UNGARN,2993 daughter of Zoltan Prince Of HUNGARY and Unknown 1St Wife Or MISTRESS, before 924 in 3rd Wife. Agnes was born before 900 in Ungarn (German For Hungary).

1029681881133. Jutte (Judith) Grafin Von SULICHGAU,415,1784,2844 daughter of Eberhard Count Of SULICHGAU and Unknown, was born in 894 in Friuli, Italy and died before 924. Another name for Jutte was Jeutte Von SEULICHGAU.

Jutte married Arnulf I "The Bad" Duke Of BAVARIA,1784,2844,2993,3142 son of Liutpold Von Babenberg, Margrave Of BAVARIA and Kunigunde (Cunigunda) Of SWABIA, about 910 2779.,2844 Arnulf was born in 885 in Nordgau, Schaben, Bavaria 1447,3143 and died on 14 July 937 in Regensberg, Oberpfalz, Bavaria 1436,2779,2844,3143,3144 at age 52. Other names for Arnulf were Arnulf Der Böse, Le Mauvais=The Bad, Arnolphus I Count Of MALUS, Adalbert II Of THURGAU, Adalbert Ii, and Count De THURGOVIE.

1029681881152. Hugh Count Of Palatine & VIENNE,415,1444,2232,2400 son of Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES and Teutberga De ARLES, was born about 900 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France and died about 948 about age 48.

Hugh married Willa Of BURGUNDY, daughter of Richard I "The Justiciar" Duke Of BURGUNDY and Adelaide Of AUXERRE. Willa was born about 900 in Bourgogne, France.

1029681881153. Willa Of BURGUNDY,415 daughter of Richard I "The Justiciar" Duke Of BURGUNDY and Adelaide Of AUXERRE, was born about 900 in Bourgogne, France.

Willa married Hugh Count Of Palatine & VIENNE,2232,2400 son of Garnier (Warinus) I Count De Sens & TROYES and Teutberga De ARLES. Hugh was born about 900 in Vienne, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France and died about 948 about age 48.

1029681881156. Anselm I Count Of NOYEN,415 son of Odalrich II Von SCHANNIS and Unknown, was born about 922 in Nohen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany.

Anselm married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940578       i.  Anselm II Count Of NOYEN (born about 945 in Nohen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany - died after 980 in Schanis, Zurich, Switzerland)


1029681881160. Ardoino Count Of Susa & Turin & AURIATE,415,1444,2645 son of Roggiero Count Of Auriate & SUSA and Unknown, was born about 925 in Auriate, Torino, Italy and died in 972 about age 47.

Ardoino married Miss De MOSEZZO, daughter of Manfredo Seigneur De MOSEZZO and Unknown. Miss was born about 928 in Mosezzo, Italy.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940580       i.  Manfred I Count Of Susa & TURIN (born in 950 in Susa, Turin, Italy - died in 1000)


1029681881161. Miss De MOSEZZO,415,1444 daughter of Manfredo Seigneur De MOSEZZO and Unknown, was born about 928 in Mosezzo, Italy.

Miss married Ardoino Count Of Susa & Turin & AURIATE,2645 son of Roggiero Count Of Auriate & SUSA and Unknown. Ardoino was born about 925 in Auriate, Torino, Italy and died in 972 about age 47.

1029681881162. Attone, Count Di REGGIO & Modena & Canossa,415,1444,2645 son of Sigifredo De CANOSSA and Unknown, was born about 930 in Canossa, Italy and died from 13 February 987 to 988 about age 57.

Attone, married HILDEGARDE.2645 HILDEGARDE was born about 935 in Italy.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940581       i.  Prangorda Di REGGIO (born about 955 in Modena, Italy - died after 991)


1029681881163. Hildegarde 415,1444,2645 was born about 935 in Italy.

Hildegarde married Attone, Count Di REGGIO & Modena & Canossa,2645 son of Sigifredo De CANOSSA and Unknown. Attone, was born about 930 in Canossa, Italy and died from 13 February 987 to 988 about age 57.

1029681881168. Robert Count Of GENEVA 415,1849 was born about 940 in Geneva, Switzerland and died about 1019 1849 about age 79.

Robert married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940584       i.  Albert II Count Of GENEVA (born about 960 in Geneva, Switzerland)


1029681881174. Count Of Paris Conrad I King Of BURGUNDY,415,505,1444,1601,1746,2913,2994 son of Rudolph II Of Burgundy, King Of ITALY and Bertha Von SWABIA, was born in 924 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2539 and died on 19 October 993 1447,2323,2909,2913 at age 69. Other names for Conrad were Konrad I, Konrad The Peaceful, Le Pacifique=The Pacific, Peaceful, Conrad I King Of ARLES, Conrad I Le Pacifique, and Roi Des DEUX-BOURGOGNES.

Conrad married Matilda (Maud) Princess Of FRANCE 2913,2995 on 10 August 964 in 2ND Wife.2913 Matilda was born about 943 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France 2913 and died on 26 November 991 2909,2913 about age 48. Other names for Matilda were Matilda, and Mathilde CAROLINGIEN.

Conrad next married Adelaide Of BELLAY, daughter of Gebhard Konradiner, Graf Im UFGAU and Adela De VERMANDOIS, about 950 in 1st Wife. Adelaide was born about 935 in Germany and died before 964. Another name for Adelaide was Adalaide Of BELLAY.

Conrad next married Ælfgifu, daughter of Edward "The Elder" West Saxon King Of ENGLAND and Aelflaed (Aelfflaed) Of WILTSHIRE.

Conrad next married Aldiud.

1029681881175. Matilda (Maud) Princess Of FRANCE,415,1444,2909,2913,2995 daughter of Louis IV "Transmarinus" King Of FRANCE and Gerberga Of SAXONY Abbess Of Notre Dame, was born about 943 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France 2913 and died on 26 November 991 2909,2913 about age 48. Other names for Matilda were Matilda, and Mathilde CAROLINGIEN.

Matilda married Count Of Paris Conrad I King Of BURGUNDY 1601,2913,2994 on 10 August 964 in 2ND Wife.2913 Conrad was born in 924 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2539 and died on 19 October 993 1447,2323,2909,2913 at age 69. Other names for Conrad were Konrad I, Konrad The Peaceful, Le Pacifique=The Pacific, Peaceful, Conrad I King Of ARLES, Conrad I Le Pacifique, and Roi Des DEUX-BOURGOGNES.

1029681881600. Aimery II Vicomte De THOUARS,415,1948 son of Savory I Vicomte De THOUARS and Unknown, was born about 900 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Anjou/Poitou-Charentes, France and died in 955 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Anjou/Poitou-Charentes, France about age 55.

Aimery married Alianore (Aliemor).1948 Alianore was born about 900 in France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940800       i.  Herbert I Vicomte De THOUARS (born about 925 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Anjou/Poitou-Charentes, France - died on 13 May 988)


1029681881601. Alianore (Aliemor) 415,1948 was born about 900 in France.

Alianore married Aimery II Vicomte De THOUARS,1948 son of Savory I Vicomte De THOUARS and Unknown. Aimery was born about 900 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Anjou/Poitou-Charentes, France and died in 955 in Thouars, Deux-Sevres, Anjou/Poitou-Charentes, France about age 55.

1029681881602. Cadelon II Vicomte D' AUNAY,415,1948,3157 son of Cadelon I Vicomte D' AUNAY and Gisela De MELLE, was born about 900 in Aulnay DE Saintonge, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France and died before 967. Another name for Cadelon was Cadelon II Vicomte D' AULNAY.

Cadelon married Senegunde (Senegonde) De MARCILLAC 1948.,3157 Senegunde was born about 905 in Marcillac, Gironde, Aquitaine, France.

Children from this marriage were:

514840940876       i.  Cadelon III Vicomte D' AUNAY (born in 935 in Aulnay DE Saintonge, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France - died in 1009)

514840940801      ii.  Aldegarde (Aldearde) D' AUNAY (born about 939 in Aulnay DE Saintonge, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France - died in 1020)


1029681881603. Senegunde (Senegonde) De MARCILLAC,415,1948,3157 daughter of Remi (Rimi) De MARCILLAC and Odelgarde (Odulgarde), was born about 905 in Marcillac, Gironde, Aquitaine, France.

Senegunde married Cadelon II Vicomte D' AUNAY,1948,3157 son of Cadelon I Vicomte D' AUNAY and Gisela De MELLE. Cadelon was born about 900 in Aulnay DE Saintonge, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France and died before 967. Another name for Cadelon was Cadelon II Vicomte D' AULNAY.

1029681881614. Louis IV "Transmarinus" King Of FRANCE,415,1444,1601,1746,2909,2910 son of Charles III "The Simple" King Of FRANCE and Queen Of Franks Eadgifu Princess Of ENGLAND, was born on 10 September 921 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France,2910 died on 10 September 954 in St Remy Abbey, Reims, Marne, France 2321,2910,2911 at age 33, and was buried in St Remy Abbey, Rheims. Other names for Louis were Louis IV The Foreigner, Louis IV Transmarinus, King Of FRANCE, and Ludovic TRANSMARINI.

General Notes:
Louis IV, King de France

(Andre Roux: Scrolls, 113, 191.)
(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians.)
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-36.)
(Paul Auge, Nouveau Larousse Universel (13 a 21 Rue Montparnasse et Boulevard Raspail 114: Librairie Larousse, 1948), Tome II, Page 86.)
(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387).

Also Known As: Louis "d'Outremer".

Born: on 10 Sep 920 in Laon, Aisne, France, son of Charles III, King de France and Eadgifu=Ogive=Hadwige, Princess of England, Some sources claim King Louis IV was born in the year 921.

Note -between 936 and 954 in France: King:936-954. When Louis IV's father [Charles "Le Simple"] was captured [by Herbert de Vermandois in 923] , his mother Eadgifu took him to England for refuge. Louis IV came to the throne thanks to the support of Hughes, Count of Paris who had Louis IV recalled to France to succeed King Raoul (reign: 923-936). On 19 June 936, the new King, arrived in Boulogne, from England [hence the nickname "from overseas"] . He is annointed in Laon by the Archbishop of Reims, Artaud. Hughes "Le Grand" fancies himself the mentor of the King, but the King is rather independent of mind. Louis struggled against Hughes "Le Grand", Count of Paris, through most of his reign. In 936, the new German King, Otton I (who had just succeeded Henri I) tries to arbitrate their quarrels. In 938, King Louis "d'Outremer" makes an enemy out of Otton by marching into Lorraine. In 940, Otton I invades France and marches on Paris, with the help of his allies, Hughes "Le Grand" and Hughes de Vermandois. The Kingdom is split in two. While fighting the Normans in an attempt to recapture Normandy, Louis IV was made prisoner in 945 in Rouen. His liberty following that capture was short-lived as Louis IV fell into the hands of Hughes "Le Grand", now Duke de France, who kept him prisoner for one year until 946. An alliance with the German King Otto I allowed Louis IV to defeat Hughes (having had Hugues de Vermandois excommunicated in 948 at the Council of Ingelheim; The Church Council met again in September that year and excommunicated Hughes "Le Grand"), who made peace in 950 with Louis because he needed the support of the Church. Louis IV married Gerberge, Sister of the Emperor of the Occident Othon=Otto the Great, who bore him a son named Lothaire who eventually replaced Louis IV on the throne. Louis was fatally injured in a fall form his horse.

Married in 940: Gerberge de Saxe, daughter of Henri I, Duke de Saxe and Mathilde, Countess de Ringelheim ; Louis IV was Gerberge's second husband.

Died: on 10 Oct 954 in Reims, Champagne, France, at age 34 Louis IV is buried at Saint Remy.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 936-954

Louis married Gerberga Of SAXONY Abbess Of Notre Dame 1601,2906,2907 on 25 April 940 in 2ND Husband 2324.,2907 Gerberga was born about 913 in Nordhausen, Saxony, Prussia,2324 died on 5 May 984 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia 2314,2325,2326,2327,2328 about age 71, and was buried in Reims, Champagne, France. Other names for Gerberga were Gerberge Of The GERMANS, Gerberga Of GERMANY, Gerberge Von SACHSEN, and Gerberge Of SAXONY.

1029681881615. Gerberga Of SAXONY Abbess Of Notre Dame,415,505,1444,1601,1746,2326,2327,2906,2907,2909 daughter of Duke Of Saxony Heinrich I "The Fowler" King Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Queen Of The Germans Matilda, Countess Of RINGELHEIM, was born about 913 in Nordhausen, Saxony, Prussia,2324 died on 5 May 984 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia 2314,2325,2326,2327,2328 about age 71, and was buried in Reims, Champagne, France. Other names for Gerberga were Gerberge Of The GERMANS, Gerberga Of GERMANY, Gerberge Von SACHSEN, and Gerberge Of SAXONY.

General Notes:
In 939 her first husband, Duke Giselbert of Lorraine, died and she then married Louis IV of France, who also became ruler of Lorraine though with opposition from Hugo of Francien, who was married to her sister, Hadwig. In 954 her husband died, and she managed to secure the election of her son, Lothar III as king of France, and acted as his regent. The contemporary sources describe her as a highly educated, intelligent and forceful player in the political game of the time. Mother of around 10 children, she lived (913-69). 1741

Gerberga married Giselbert I Duke Of LORRAINE Lay Abbot Of Echternach,1601,1784,2906,2907 son of Régnier I Longicullus, Count Of HAINAULT and Hersent, Princess De FRANCE, from 29 January 929 to 930 in 1st Husband 2314.,2324 Giselbert was born about 887 in Reims, Lorraine, France 2328 and died on 2 October 939 in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia 1784,2314,2327,2328,2907 about age 52. Another name for Giselbert was Gilbert.

Gerberga next married Louis IV "Transmarinus" King Of FRANCE 1601,2910 on 25 April 940 in 2ND Husband 2324.,2907 Louis was born on 10 September 921 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France,2910 died on 10 September 954 in St Remy Abbey, Reims, Marne, France 2321,2910,2911 at age 33, and was buried in St Remy Abbey, Rheims. Other names for Louis were Louis IV The Foreigner, Louis IV Transmarinus, King Of FRANCE, and Ludovic TRANSMARINI.

1029681881728. Hugh I De LUSIGNAN 415,1948 was born about 885 in Lusignan, Vienne, Poitou, France.

Hugh married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940864       i.  Hugh II Sire De LUSIGNAN (born about 910 in Lusignan, Vienne, Poitou, France - died after 965)


1029681881730. Sigebert VII Comte De RAZES,415 son of Bera VI "The Architect" Comte De RAZES and Unknown, was born about 927 in Razes, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France and died in 982 about age 55.

Sigebert married.

Children from this marriage were:

514840940865       i.  Agnes De RAZES (born about 945 in Razes, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France)

                  ii.  Hugh I De RAZES was born about 947 in Razes, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France and died in 971 3295 about age 24.


1029681881744. Sulpice De LA MARCHE 415,1529 was born about 880 in Marche, Creuse, Limousin, France.

Sulpice married Miss De LIMOGES. Miss was born about 890 in Limoges, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940872       i.  Boso I Comte De LA MARCHE (born about 910 in Marche, Creuse, Limousin, France - died in 968)


1029681881745. Miss De LIMOGES 415 was born about 890 in Limoges, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France.

Miss married Sulpice De LA MARCHE.1529 Sulpice was born about 880 in Marche, Creuse, Limousin, France.

1029681881746. Guillaume I Comte De PERIGORD 415,1529 was born about 868 in Perigord, Dordogne, Aquitaine, France and died in 920 1529 about age 52.

Guillaume married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940873       i.  Emme Countess De PERIGORD (born about 905 in Perigord, Dordogne, Aquitaine, France)


1029681881748. Eldegaire I Vicomte De LIMOGES 415,1529 was born about 865 in Limoges, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France 1529 and died in 940 1529 about age 75.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 26 March 937.

Eldegaire married Tietberga (Tetrisca) De BOURGES. Tietberga was born about 885 in Bourges, Berry, France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940874       i.  Geraud I Vicomte De LIMOGES (born about 910 in Limoges, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France - died in 988)


1029681881749. Tietberga (Tetrisca) De BOURGES 415 was born about 885 in Bourges, Berry, France.

Tietberga married Eldegaire I Vicomte De LIMOGES.1529 Eldegaire was born about 865 in Limoges, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France 1529 and died in 940 1529 about age 75.

1029681881750. Ademar De BROSSE 415 was born about 890 in Brosse, Chaillac, Limousin, France.

Ademar married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940875       i.  Rotilde De BROSSE (born about 925 in Brosse, Chaillac, Limousin, France - died after 986)


1029681881752. Cadelon II Vicomte D' AUNAY,415,1948,3157 son of Cadelon I Vicomte D' AUNAY and Gisela De MELLE, was born about 900 in Aulnay DE Saintonge, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France and died before 967. Another name for Cadelon was Cadelon II Vicomte D' AULNAY.

Cadelon married Senegunde (Senegonde) De MARCILLAC,1948,3157 daughter of Remi (Rimi) De MARCILLAC and Odelgarde (Odulgarde). Senegunde was born about 905 in Marcillac, Gironde, Aquitaine, France.

1029681881753. Senegunde (Senegonde) De MARCILLAC,415,1948,3157 daughter of Remi (Rimi) De MARCILLAC and Odelgarde (Odulgarde), was born about 905 in Marcillac, Gironde, Aquitaine, France.

Senegunde married Cadelon II Vicomte D' AUNAY,1948,3157 son of Cadelon I Vicomte D' AUNAY and Gisela De MELLE. Cadelon was born about 900 in Aulnay DE Saintonge, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France and died before 967. Another name for Cadelon was Cadelon II Vicomte D' AULNAY.

1029681881754. Mainard De SAINTES 415 was born about 910 in Saintes, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France and died in 986 about age 76.

Mainard married Rixenie. Rixenie was born about 915 in France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840940877       i.  Arsendis De SAINTES (born about 940 in Saintes, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France)


1029681881755. Rixenie 415 was born about 915 in France.

Rixenie married Mainard De SAINTES. Mainard was born about 910 in Saintes, Charente-Maritime, Poitou, France and died in 986 about age 76.

1029681883400. Eudes Comte De CHARTRES,415,1444 son of Theobald Vicomte De TOURS and Richilde Of PARIS, was born about 860 in Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France and died after 886 in Chartres, Eure-Et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France.

Eudes married Miss De CHARTRES. Miss was born about 860 in Chartres, Eure-Et-Loire, Beauce/Centre, France and died after 908.

The child from this marriage was:

514840941700       i.  Theobald I Gerlon, Viscount Of TROYES AND BLOIS (born about 885 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France - died before 954 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France)


1029681883401. Miss De CHARTRES,415 daughter of Theobald (Thibaut) Comte De CHARTRES and Unknown, was born about 860 in Chartres, Eure-Et-Loire, Beauce/Centre, France and died after 908.

Miss married Eudes Comte De CHARTRES. Eudes was born about 860 in Tours, Indre-Et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France and died after 886 in Chartres, Eure-Et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France.

1029681883402. Hugh Count Of BOURGES,415,3232 son of Stephen Comte De BOURGES and Unknown, was born about 862 in Bourges, Cher, Berry/Centre, France 2147 and died in 892 2147 about age 30.

Hugh married Rothaut Princess Of FRANCE.3232 Rothaut was born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3232 and died from 22 March 927 to 928 2147 about age 57. Another name for Rothaut was Rothilde, Rothaut.

The child from this marriage was:

514840941701       i.  Richilde Of BOURGES (born about 892 in Bourges, Cher, Berry/Centre, France)


1029681883403. Rothaut Princess Of FRANCE,415,1444,3232 daughter of Charles II "The Bald" HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Richildis Of The WEST FRANKS, was born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France 3232 and died from 22 March 927 to 928 2147 about age 57. Another name for Rothaut was Rothilde, Rothaut.

Rothaut married Hugh Count Of BOURGES.3232 Hugh was born about 862 in Bourges, Cher, Berry/Centre, France 2147 and died in 892 2147 about age 30.

1029681883648. Guillaume I Taillefer Comte De ANGOULEME 415,1529,1831 was born in 895 in Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France 1831 and died in 956 1831 at age 61. Another name for Guillaume was William I TAILLEFER Count Of Angouleme.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, 962. 1529

Guillaume married about 923 in Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840941824       i.  Armand Manzur Comte De ANGOULEME (born in 924 in Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France - died on 4 March 991-992)


1029681883776. Hugues I Comte De QUERCY 415,1529 was born about 887 in Quercy, Aquitaine, France and died about 948 1529 about age 61.

Hugues married Gudinilde.1529 Gudinilde was born about 890 in France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840941888       i.  Hugues II Vicomte De COMBORN (born about 915 in Quercy, Aquitaine, France - died in 983 in Cluny, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France)


1029681883777. Gudinilde 415,1529 was born about 890 in France.

Gudinilde married Hugues I Comte De QUERCY.1529 Hugues was born about 887 in Quercy, Aquitaine, France and died about 948 1529 about age 61.

1029681883780. Robert De TURENNE 415,1529 was born about 880 in Turenne, Correze, Limousin, France.

Robert married Blitgarde.1529 Blitgarde was born about 885 in France.

The child from this marriage was:

514840941890       i.  Bernard I Vicomte De TURENNE (born about 910 in Turenne, Correze, Limousin, France - died about 980)


1029681883781. Blitgarde 415,1529 was born about 885 in France.

Blitgarde married Robert De TURENNE.1529 Robert was born about 880 in Turenne, Correze, Limousin, France.

1029681883840. Hugh I Vicomte De CHATEAUDUN Archbishop Tours 415,2984 was born about 936 in Chateaudun, Eure-Et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France 2984 and died before 969.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, Bef 989. 2984

Hugh married Hildegarde De BLOIS 1914,2984 before 962 in 2ND Husband.2147 Hildegarde was born after 943 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France 1914 and died after 1007 2984.

The child from this marriage was:

514840941920       i.  Geoffrey II Vicomte De CHATEAUDUN (born about 963 in Chateaudun, Eure-Et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France - died on 10 June 1026)


1029681883841. Hildegarde De BLOIS,415,1914,2984 daughter of Theobald Le TRICHEUR Count Of Champagne and Luitgarde De VERMANDOIS, was born after 943 in Blois, Loir-Et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France 1914 and died after 1007 2984.

General Notes: The order & death dates of Hildegarde's husbands are somewhat confusing. I find support for her first two marriages in the order given (Ernaud de la Forte and Hugh I de Chateaudun) on the newgroup, soc.genealogy.medieval, in postings by Ed Mann and several others. Adrian Channing, who is a respected professional genealogist gives the third marriage for Hildegarde, along with her parents, which leaves no doubt as to her identity, although Adrian does not mention the prior marriages in her post.

I have inserted an extra Geoffrey I-1/2 de Chateaudun into the pedigree, which makes it likely that Hugh de Chateaudun is the 2nd husband (agreeing with Ed Mann, although he does not mention the 3rd husband Beuchard de Montmorency). Many people do not have Geoffrey I-1/2 in the line, going directly to Geoffrey II, b. abt 991. This may be the case, but Ed Mann has Hugh d. bef 989, which would not fit with the 991 birth year; plus the fact that Hildegarde would have been close to 50 when Geoffrey II was born, which is not likely. I have taken the liberty of decreasing Hugh's lifetime from "bef. 989" to "bef. 969" in order to allow Hildegarde to marry Bouchard in time to have their son.

I also took the liberty of shortening Hildegarde's lifetime by changing Adrian Channing's birth date of "abt 940" to "aft 943" because her mother's 1st husband, William "Longsword" of Normandy, did not die until 942, when she would have married Hildegarde's father.

Hildegarde married Hugh I Vicomte De CHATEAUDUN Archbishop Tours 2984 before 962 in 2ND Husband.2147 Hugh was born about 936 in Chateaudun, Eure-Et-Loir, Beauce/Centre, France 2984 and died before 969.

Hildegarde next married Ernaud De LA FORTE 2147 in 1st Husband.2147 Ernaud was born about 940 in France and died before 962.

Hildegarde next married Bouchard I Seigneur De MONTMORENCY 1914 before 969 in 3rd Husband. Bouchard was born about 930 in Chantilly, Val D'oise, Ile-DE-France, France 1914 and died in 981 in Britain 1914 about age 51.

Noted events in his life were:

• Alt. Death: Alt. Death, After 975. Montmorency, Val d'Oise, Ile-de-France, France

The child from this marriage was:

                   i.  Bouchard II De MONTMORENCY was born about 970 in Montmorency, Val D'oise, Ile-DE-France, France 1914 and died in 1020 in Bourgogne, France 1914 about age 50.


1029681883842. Rotrou Seigneur De NOGENT-LE-ROTROU 415 was born about 936 in Nogent-Le-Roi, Eure-Et-Loire, Beauce/Centre, France and died in 978 about age 42.

Rotrou married.

1029681883844. Herve Comte De MORTAGNE 415 was born about 910 in Mortagne-Au-Perche, Orne, Normandy, France.

Herve married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840941922       i.  Fulcuich Comte De CORBON (born about 950 in Mortagne-Au-Perche, Orne, Normandy, France - died after 1031 in Corbon, Sarthe, Maine/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France)


1029681884195. Arsinde De CARCASSONNE,415 daughter of Roger I De COMMINGES and Adelaide De MELGUEIL, was born about 970 in Carcassonne, Aude, Languedoc, France.

Arsinde married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942097       i.  Senegonde De BEZIERS (born about 985 in Bezieres, Herault, Languedoc, France - died about 1013)


1029681884199. Adelaide (Tota) Of TOULOUSE,415,2618 daughter of Raymond V Taillefer Count Of TOULOUSE and Countess Of Toulouse Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' ANJOU [Countess Of Gevaf, was born about 972 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France.

Adelaide married in 1st Wife.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942099       i.  Garsinde De BEZALU (born about 1000 in Besalu, Spain)




1029681884352. Boleslaw I 'Chrobny' King Of POLAND,2406 son of Miescyslaw I Grand Duke Mieszko King of POLAND Piast Dynasty and Dubravka, Princess Of BOHEMIA, was born about 967 in Of, Poznan, Poland,2406 died on 17 June 1025 2406 about age 58, and was buried in Cathedral Basilica of St. Peter and St. Paul, Poznan, Poland.

General Notes:
The son of and successor to Mieszko, Boleslaw Chrobry (the Brave), went along the same path of securing Poland's independence at the early stages of his rule. In year 1000, at the Congress of Gniezno an independent Polish Church organisation was set up with the agreement of Emperor Otto III, but formed according to the Czech rather than German system. Thus the Polish Church could turn directly to Rome and the Pope for protection and would not fall under the influence of the Germans. The Church hierarchy became an important component of the political structure of the state. However, the political independence acquired in this way had to be defended by Poland later, when heirs to Otto III changed the Empire's policy toward Poland.

Boleslaw defeated the Germans in the long war of 1002-1018. Afterward, he consolidated his edge in East-Central Europe with an expedition against Kiev in 1018. Poland's independence was then established by the royal coronations of Boleslaw in 1024. 2406

Boleslaw married Emnilde Of SILESIA in 987 in 3rd Wife.2997 Emnilde was born about 968 and died in 1017 about age 49.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942176       i.  Misceyslaw (Mieszko) II King Of POLAND (born about 990 in Krakaow, Poland - died on 10 May 1034, buried in Cathedral Basilica of St. Peter and St. Paul, Poznan, Poland)


1029681884353. Emnilde Of SILESIA, daughter of Dobromir, Prince Of SILESIA and Unknown, was born about 968 and died in 1017 about age 49.

General Notes:
may be same as 1101

Emnilde married Boleslaw I 'Chrobny' King Of POLAND 2406 in 987 in 3rd Wife.2997 Boleslaw was born about 967 in Of, Poznan, Poland,2406 died on 17 June 1025 2406 about age 58, and was buried in Cathedral Basilica of St. Peter and St. Paul, Poznan, Poland.

1029681884354. Edzo Pfalzgraf of LORRAINE Lord of Duisburg,505,3296,3297 son of Herman I "The Little" Count Of BONNGAU and Hedwig Von DILLINGEN, was born about 955 in Duisburg, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany 3296 and died on 21 May 1034 in Saalfeld, Thuringia, Germany 3296,3297 about age 79.

Edzo married Matilda Princess of SAXONY 3296 in 991.3296 Matilda was born in 981 in Saxony, Germany 3296 and died on 11 April 1025 3296,3297 at age 44.

Children from this marriage were:

                   i.  Otto II Duke Of SWABIA was born about 996 in Swabia, Germany. Another name for Otto was Otto Duke Of Schwaben Pfalzgraf Of LORRAINE.

514840942177      ii.  Rixa (Richenza) De LORRAINE (born about 1000 in Lorraine, France - died on 21 March 1062-1063 in Saalfeld, Mulhausen, Thuringia)

                 iii.  Ludolf Governor Of BRAUWEILER was born about 1000 in Brauweiler, Holland and died on 10 April 1031 about age 31.


1029681884355. Matilda Princess of SAXONY,505,3296 daughter of Otto II Rufus Of Saxony, Co-Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Theophano Princess of BYZANTINE EMPIRE, was born in 981 in Saxony, Germany 3296 and died on 11 April 1025 3296,3297 at age 44.

Matilda married Edzo Pfalzgraf of LORRAINE Lord of Duisburg 3296,3297 in 991.3296 Edzo was born about 955 in Duisburg, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany 3296 and died on 21 May 1034 in Saalfeld, Thuringia, Germany 3296,3297 about age 79.

1029681884358. Duke Of Swabia Konrad I Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN,415,1444,1447,1601,1746,1784,1849,2861,2952,3287 son of Conrad I, Duke Of ALSACE and Judith Von ÖHNINGEN, was born between 940 and 945 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany and died on 20 August 997 2952,3095,3096 about age 56. Other names for Konrad were Conrad I, Konrad I KONRADINER, Cuno I, Count D' OEHNINGEN, Kuno Count Von OHNINGEN, Kuno I Von Öhningen, Count Of RHEINFELDEN, Konrad Ii, Herzog Von SCHWABEN, Conrad Ii, Duke SWABIA, Konrad, Duke Of SWABIA 3095., and3096

General Notes:
Alan Wilson, apparently has this Konrad being the same person as Conrad I of Alsace, born 915, elsewhere in my file. His ancestry ends up with the same great-grandfather (Geberhard of NiederLandgau), who is father of both Eberhard of Niederlandgau and Gebhard of Wettergau, but does not go through Udo Count of Wetterau, as AR does. Richard Borthwick states that this is the latest thinking of several genealogists, as indicated in the latest edition of ES, but that not everyone agrees. I am NOT following Alan's line, but have given Konrad of Rheingau as an alias to Konrad of Alsace, who Alan states is the same person. @@check ancestry

Konrad married Richilde, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 1849,3287 about 948 in -, Saxony, Germany. Richilde, was born about 925 in -, Saxony, Germany and died on 14 August 1014 1849 about age 89. Other names for Richilde, were Richlint OTTONEN, Mathilde I von SACHSEN,1741 Richilde Von SACHSEN, and Richlint Von SACHSEN.

Konrad next married Judith Duchess Of SWABIA 1601 in <, , Schwaben, Bavaria>. Judith was born in 914 in Of, , Schwaben, Bavaria and died in Y.

1029681884359. Richilde, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,415,505,1444,1447,1849,2861,3287 daughter of King Of The Germans Otto I "The Great" Emperor HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE and Empress Of Germany Eadgyth (Edith) Princess Of ENGLAND, was born about 925 in -, Saxony, Germany and died on 14 August 1014 1849 about age 89. Other names for Richilde, were Richlint OTTONEN, Mathilde I von SACHSEN,1741 Richilde Von SACHSEN, and Richlint Von SACHSEN.

General Notes:
Daughter of Emperor Otto I, she was appointed the first Princess-Abbess - Reichsäbtissin - of Quedlinburg. She also acted as "domina imperialis", and followed her brother Otto II on journey to Italy and acted regent for her nephew, Otto III and as his representative in Sachsen with the additional titles of Metropolitana of Quedlinburg and Matrixcia of Sachsen (Substitute and Representive of the Emperor). She lived (955-999). 1741

Richilde, married Duke Of Swabia Konrad I Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN 1601,1784,1849,2952,3287 about 948 in -, Saxony, Germany. Konrad was born between 940 and 945 in Öhningen, Konstanz, Baden, Germany and died on 20 August 997 2952,3095,3096 about age 56. Other names for Konrad were Conrad I, Konrad I KONRADINER, Cuno I, Count D' OEHNINGEN, Kuno Count Von OHNINGEN, Kuno I Von Öhningen, Count Of RHEINFELDEN, Konrad Ii, Herzog Von SCHWABEN, Conrad Ii, Duke SWABIA, Konrad, Duke Of SWABIA 3095., and3096

1029681884362. Heinrich Margrave Of NORDGAU & SCHWEINFURTH,415,1601,1746,2813 son of Berthold Margrave Of The NORDGAU and Eiliseintha (Eilika\Hellika) Von WALBECK, was born about 970 in Schweinfurth, Untefranken, Bavaria and died on 18 September 1017 1784 about age 47.

Heinrich married Margravine Of Schweinfurt Gerberge Countess Of GLEIBERG 1270,1601,1784 about 990 in Kinzigaw, Schweinfurth, Bavaria. Gerberge was born in 950 in Gleiberg, Hesse, Germany and died in 1017 2523 at age 67. Other names for Gerberge were Gergerba Von KINZIGAU, and Gergerba KONRADINER.2523

1029681884363. Margravine Of Schweinfurt Gerberge Countess Of GLEIBERG,415,1270,1601,1746,1784 daughter of Count Of Gleiberg Heribert Count In KINZIGGAU & Kinzigau and Irmintrud Countess Of AVALGAU, was born in 950 in Gleiberg, Hesse, Germany and died in 1017 2523 at age 67. Other names for Gerberge were Gergerba Von KINZIGAU, and Gergerba KONRADINER.2523

Gerberge married Heinrich Margrave Of NORDGAU & SCHWEINFURTH 1601,2813 about 990 in Kinzigaw, Schweinfurth, Bavaria. Heinrich was born about 970 in Schweinfurth, Untefranken, Bavaria and died on 18 September 1017 1784 about age 47.

1029681884365. Premyslava Of KIEV,415,2856 daughter of St Vladimir I "The Great" Duke Of KIEV and Regneide (Rogneda) Of POLOTSK, was born about 982 in Kiev, Ukraine and died in 1018 about age 36.

Premyslava married in 1st Wife.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942182       i.  Andrew (Andros) I King Of HUNGARY (born in 1001 in Esztergom, Komarom-Esztergo, Hungary - died after 6 July 1060 in Zircz, Veszprem, Hungary)


1029681884366. Jaroslaus I "The Wise" Grand Duke Of KIEV,415,1524,2648 son of St Vladimir I "The Great" Duke Of KIEV and Regneide (Rogneda) Of POLOTSK, was born about 976 in Kiev, Ukraine and died from 20 February 1053 to 1054 in Kiev, Ukraine 2427 about age 77. Another name for Jaroslaus was Jaroslav VALDIMIROVICH Grand Prince Of Kiev.

Jaroslaus married Ingegard OLAFSDOTTIR 1524,2648 in 1019 in 2ND Wife.2649 Ingegard was born in 1001 in Uppsala, Sweden and died from 10 February 1049 to 1050 in Kiev, Ukraine 2649 at age 48. Another name for Ingegard was Ingeborg Of SWEDEN.

1029681884367. Ingegard OLAFSDOTTIR,415,1524,2648 daughter of Olaf III Eriksson King Of SWEDEN and Astrid Of OBOTRITES, was born in 1001 in Uppsala, Sweden and died from 10 February 1049 to 1050 in Kiev, Ukraine 2649 at age 48. Another name for Ingegard was Ingeborg Of SWEDEN.

Ingegard married Jaroslaus I "The Wise" Grand Duke Of KIEV 1524,2648 in 1019 in 2ND Wife.2649 Jaroslaus was born about 976 in Kiev, Ukraine and died from 20 February 1053 to 1054 in Kiev, Ukraine 2427 about age 77. Another name for Jaroslaus was Jaroslav VALDIMIROVICH Grand Prince Of Kiev.

1029681884394. Heinrich Margrave Of NORDGAU & SCHWEINFURTH,415,1601,1746,2813 son of Berthold Margrave Of The NORDGAU and Eiliseintha (Eilika\Hellika) Von WALBECK, was born about 970 in Schweinfurth, Untefranken, Bavaria and died on 18 September 1017 1784 about age 47.

Heinrich married Margravine Of Schweinfurt Gerberge Countess Of GLEIBERG 1270,1601,1784 about 990 in Kinzigaw, Schweinfurth, Bavaria. Gerberge was born in 950 in Gleiberg, Hesse, Germany and died in 1017 2523 at age 67. Other names for Gerberge were Gergerba Von KINZIGAU, and Gergerba KONRADINER.2523

1029681884395. Margravine Of Schweinfurt Gerberge Countess Of GLEIBERG,415,1270,1601,1746,1784 daughter of Count Of Gleiberg Heribert Count In KINZIGGAU & Kinzigau and Irmintrud Countess Of AVALGAU, was born in 950 in Gleiberg, Hesse, Germany and died in 1017 2523 at age 67. Other names for Gerberge were Gergerba Von KINZIGAU, and Gergerba KONRADINER.2523

Gerberge married Heinrich Margrave Of NORDGAU & SCHWEINFURTH 1601,2813 about 990 in Kinzigaw, Schweinfurth, Bavaria. Heinrich was born about 970 in Schweinfurth, Untefranken, Bavaria and died on 18 September 1017 1784 about age 47.

1029681884396. Hermann IV Duke Of SWABIA,415,1444,2232 son of Ernst I, Duke Of SWABIA and Gisela Konradiner, Herzögin Von SCHWABEN, was born about 1013 in Schwaben, Germany and died on 28 July 1038 about age 25.

Hermann married Adelaida, Contessa Di TORINO 1339,2820 about 1028 of Torino, Italy. Adelaida, was born about 1015 in Susa, Turin, Italy and died on 19 October 1091 1447,2821 about age 76. Other names for Adelaida, were Adelheid Of SOSA, Adelaide, Margravine Von SUSA, Adelais, and Contessa De TORINO.

1029681884397. Adelaida, Contessa Di TORINO,415,1339,1444,2820 daughter of Ulric Manfredo II Count Of Susa Marquis Of TURIN and Bertha Of LIGURIA, was born about 1015 in Susa, Turin, Italy and died on 19 October 1091 1447,2821 about age 76. Other names for Adelaida, were Adelheid Of SOSA, Adelaide, Margravine Von SUSA, Adelais, and Contessa De TORINO.

Adelaida, married Otto (Eudes) De Maurienne Count Of Turin & SAVOY,2819,2820 son of Humbert I Count Of SAVOY and Ancelie Von LENZBURG. Otto was born in 1002 in Chambery, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France and died from about 19 January 1059 to 1060 1447,2820 about age 57. Other names for Otto were Eudes, Odonne, Conte Di MAURIENNE, Otto Of MAURIENNE, Otto, Count Of MAURINE, SAVOIA, Otto, Markgrafin Of SUSA, Otto, Count Of Savoy, and Marquess Of TURIN.

Adelaida, next married Hermann IV Duke Of SWABIA 2232 about 1028 of Torino, Italy. Hermann was born about 1013 in Schwaben, Germany and died on 28 July 1038 about age 25.

1029681884400. Henry Count Of SPEYER,415,1444,2710,3003,3169 son of Otto Duke Of CARINTHIA and Judith (Adela) Of VERDUN, was born about 968 in Speyergau, Rheinland, Germany and died on 28 May 997 2710,3003 about age 29. Other names for Henry were Henry Of FRANCONIA, and SPIERS.

Henry married Adelheide Of ALSACE.2710 Adelheide was born in 972 in Remiremont, Vosges, France and died on 19 May 1040 at age 68. Another name for Adelheide was Adelheid Of LOWER ALSACE.

Children from this marriage were:

514840942200       i.  Conrad II Le Salien, Emperor Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE (born about 990 in Bourgogne, France - died on 4 June 1039 in Utrecht, Netherlands)

                  ii.  Gerhard, Bishop Of REGENSBURG died in 1060.


1029681884401. Adelheide Of ALSACE,415,1444,2710 daughter of Gerhard I Von Hohenburg Count Of ALSACE and Countess Of Lower Alsace Eva LUXEMBOURG, was born in 972 in Remiremont, Vosges, France and died on 19 May 1040 at age 68. Another name for Adelheide was Adelheid Of LOWER ALSACE.

Adelheide married Henry Count Of SPEYER 2710,3003.,3169 Henry was born about 968 in Speyergau, Rheinland, Germany and died on 28 May 997 2710,3003 about age 29. Other names for Henry were Henry Of FRANCONIA, and SPIERS.

1029681884402. Hermann II Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN,415,1444,2515,3095,3096,3170 son of Duke Of Swabia Konrad I Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN and Richilde, Imperial Princess Of The HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, was born about 963 in Schwaben, Germany 2323 and died on 4 May 1003 2756,3095,3096,3288 about age 40. Other names for Hermann were Hermann II KONRADINER, Herman Ii, and Duke Of SWABIA.

Hermann married Gerberge Des DEUX-BOURGOGNE 2515,2756 about 984.2756 Gerberge was born from about 965 to 966 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2756 and died from 1018 to 1019 2756 about age 53. Other names for Gerberge were Gerberga Of ARLES, Gerberga, and Princess Of BURGUNDY.

Children from this marriage were:

514840942201       i.  Gisela Konradiner, Herzögin Von SCHWABEN (born on 11 November 995 in Schwaben, Germany - died on 16 February 1043)

                  ii.  Mathilda Von SCHWABEN was born about 987 and died about 1032 2520 about age 45. Other names for Mathilda were Maud, and Mathilda Of SWABIA.

                 iii.  Berthold Von SCHWABEN was born in 992 and died in 993 at age 1.

                  iv.  Beatrix Von SCHWABEN died in 1026.

                   v.  Hermann III Von SCHWABEN was born in 995 and died in 1012 at age 17.


1029681884403. Gerberge Des DEUX-BOURGOGNE,415,1444,1447,2515,2756 daughter of Count Of Paris Conrad I King Of BURGUNDY and Matilda (Maud) Princess Of FRANCE, was born from about 965 to 966 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2756 and died from 1018 to 1019 2756 about age 53. Other names for Gerberge were Gerberga Of ARLES, Gerberga, and Princess Of BURGUNDY.

Gerberge married Hermann II Konradiner, Herzog Von SCHWABEN 2515,3170 about 984.2756 Hermann was born about 963 in Schwaben, Germany 2323 and died on 4 May 1003 2756,3095,3096,3288 about age 40. Other names for Hermann were Hermann II KONRADINER, Herman Ii, and Duke Of SWABIA.

Gerberge next married Herman, Count Von WERL. Herman, died before 998.


1029681884432. Adalelme Judge At AVIGNON 415 was born before 976 in Avignon, Vaucluse, Provence, France and died after 1005 in (Skinned Alive).

Adalelme married Belielde De MARSEILLE. Belielde was born about 980 in Marseille, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died in 1036 about age 56.

1029681884433. Belielde De MARSEILLE,415 daughter of Guillaume I Vicomte De MARSEILLE and Belielde, was born about 980 in Marseille, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died in 1036 about age 56.

Belielde married Adalelme Judge At AVIGNON. Adalelme was born before 976 in Avignon, Vaucluse, Provence, France and died after 1005 in (Skinned Alive).

1029681884482. Guillaume I Vicomte De MARSEILLE 415 was born about 952 in Marseille, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died about 1004 about age 52.

Guillaume married Belielde. Belielde was born about 955 in France.

1029681884483. Belielde 415 was born about 955 in France.

Belielde married Guillaume I Vicomte De MARSEILLE. Guillaume was born about 952 in Marseille, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died about 1004 about age 52.

1029681884486. William II Count Of Arles & PROVENCE,415,1524,2681 son of Boso II Count Of Avignon & ARLES and Constance De PROVENCE, was born in 950 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France,2682 died in 994 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2683 at age 44, and was buried in Died As A Monk In Avignon, France.

William married Arsenda De COMMINGES,2684 daughter of Arnaud I Count Of COMMINGES & Carcassonne and Arsinde Countess Of CARCASSONNE, in 1st Wife.2684 Arsenda was born about 953 in Comminges, Haute Garonne, Midi Pyrenees, France and died before 984.

William next married Countess Of Toulouse Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' ANJOU [Countess Of Gevaf 1524,1601,2685,2686,2687 after 984 in 4th Husband 2ND Wife.2685 Adelaide was born about 945 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France 2688 and died in 1026 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2682 about age 81.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage, 975. 1524 1st wife

• Alt. Marriage: Alt. Marriage 1st wife, 975. 1524

1029681884487. Countess Of Toulouse Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' ANJOU [Countess Of Gevaf,415,1524,1601,1746,2685,2686,2687 daughter of Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte D' ANJOU Count Of Anjou and Countess Of Anjou Gerberga De GATINAIS, was born about 945 in Anjou/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France 2688 and died in 1026 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2682 about age 81.

General Notes:
The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 Jul 2000, by Todd A Farmerie:

From: Todd A. Farmerie ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Adelaide d'Anjou (was Tiburge d'Orange)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/30

TatjanaAV wrote:

Blanche appears to have been more of a nickname. She is better known as
Adelaide, wife of Stephen of Gevaudan, Raymond of Toulouse, Louis V of
France, and William of Provence.

So... This Adelaide was indeed married to Raymond de Toulouse? I've seen this
in only one account--all others do not have Raymond in the genealogy at all
(Guillaume III is recorded as the son Raymond III Pons de Toulouse and Garsinde
de Rouergue).

Yes. This was only recently rediscovered. There is a surviving charter in which Guillaume names his wife Emma and mother Adelaide, and there is every reason to think this was the same Adelaide, known to have married "Count Raimond". The chronology is aufully long to have William a son of Raymond Pons as well, and the near-contemporary Roda Codex gives Raymond Pons no son William, but does give him a son Raymond. These make it evident that a reworking is in order.

When were Adelaide's parents married? I've seen it as 937, when
she was supposedly born in 930, and has Guillaume III in 947.

I don't think there is enough information to provide such a date. Certainly both of them you give are nothing more than guesses, and need to be adjusted. As to William's birth, this date is wrong, based on his mistaken placement as son of Raymond Pons. A more recent guess is about 975.

Who are ALL of her children (with the correct fathers)?

Stasser gives her the following:

by Etienne de Brioude:
1. Pons de Gevaudan
2. Bertrand de Brioude
3. Etienne de Brioude
4. Ermengarde/Humberge, Countess of Auvergne
5?. daughter, wife of Herbert of Troyes

by Raymond:
6. Guillaume Taillefer
7?. Toda/Adelaide, Countess of Besalu (I question this one)
8?. Letgarde

by Guillaume II of Provence:
9. Guillaume III
10. Constance, Queen of France

taf

Adelaide married Etienne II De BRIOUDE 2685 in 1st Husband.2685 Etienne was born about 940 in Brioude, Haute-Loire, Auvergne, France and died before 972 in Gevaudan, Alpes-DE-Haute-Provence, Provence, France. Another name for Etienne was Etienne II De GEVAUDAN.

Adelaide next married Raymond V Taillefer Count Of TOULOUSE 2151,2689,2690 about 972 in 2ND Husband.2685 Raymond was born in 947 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France 2151 and died about 990 about age 43.

Adelaide next married Louis V "The Do-Nothing" King Of FRANCE,2687 son of Lothair Carolingien, King Of FRANCE and Unknown, in 982 in 3rd Husband - Divorced 984.2691 Louis was born in 967 in Laon, Aisne, Picardy, France 2687 and died between 21 and 22 May 987 in (Dsp) 2687.

Noted events in his life were:

• Ruled: 979-986 (joint with father), 986-987. 2692

Adelaide next married Guillaume III TAILLEFER Count Of Toulouse,1601 son of Duke Raymond III Pons Of TOULOUSE Count Of Toulouse and Countess Garsinde TOULOUSE, about 973 in , , , France. Guillaume was born about 947 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, France and died in September 1037 about age 90.

Adelaide next married William II Count Of Arles & PROVENCE 1524,2681 after 984 in 4th Husband 2ND Wife.2685 William was born in 950 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France,2682 died in 994 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France 2683 at age 44, and was buried in Died As A Monk In Avignon, France.

1029681884547. Toda Of PROVENCE,415 daughter of William II Count Of Arles & PROVENCE and Arsenda De COMMINGES, was born about 980 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France.

Toda married before 1010 in 2ND Wife ?.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942273       i.  Constance Velasquita Of BEZALU (born about 1010 in Besalu, Spain - died about 1038)


1029681884548. Bernard-Rodger Seigneur De FOIX Count Bigorre,415,1988,2118 son of Roger I De COMMINGES and Adelaide De MELGUEIL, was born about 974 in Carcassonne, Aude, Languedoc, France and died on 22 August 1036 in Foix, Ariege, Midi-Pyreneees, France about age 62. Another name for Bernard-Rodger was Bernard Count Of CONSERANS.

General Notes: Count of Carcassone

Bernard-Rodger married Gersinde Countess De BIGORRE. Gersinde was born about 977 in Bigorre, Spain and died before 1033.

1029681884549. Gersinde Countess De BIGORRE,415 daughter of Arnald I Comte De BIGORRE and Unknown, was born about 977 in Bigorre, Spain and died before 1033.

Gersinde married Bernard-Rodger Seigneur De FOIX Count Bigorre 1988.,2118 Bernard-Rodger was born about 974 in Carcassonne, Aude, Languedoc, France and died on 22 August 1036 in Foix, Ariege, Midi-Pyreneees, France about age 62. Another name for Bernard-Rodger was Bernard Count Of CONSERANS.

1029681884552. William III Count Of Arles & PROVENCE,415,1541 son of William II Count Of Arles & PROVENCE and Countess Of Toulouse Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' ANJOU [Countess Of Gevaf, was born about 985 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died in 1018 about age 33.

William married Gerberga De BOURGOGNE 1541 in 1002. Gerberga was born about 986 in Bourgogne, France and died before 1023. Another name for Gerberga was Gerberge Of BURGUNDY.

1029681884553. Gerberga De BOURGOGNE,415,1444,1541 daughter of Otto Guillaume Count Of BURGUNDY and Ermentrude Of Roucy, Countess Of REIMS, was born about 986 in Bourgogne, France and died before 1023. Another name for Gerberga was Gerberge Of BURGUNDY.

Gerberga married William III Count Of Arles & PROVENCE 1541 in 1002. William was born about 985 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France and died in 1018 about age 33.

1029681884554. Bertrand De TOULOUSE Comte De Forcalquier,415 son of Raymond V Taillefer Count Of TOULOUSE and Countess Of Toulouse Adelaide (Blanche\Adele) D' ANJOU [Countess Of Gevaf, was born about 985 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France and died in Forcalquier, Alpes-DE-Haute-Provence, Provence, France.

Bertrand married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942277       i.  Hildegard De TOULOUSE Heiress Of Forcalquier (born about 1008 in Forcalquier, Alpes-DE-Haute-Provence, Provence, France - died on 23 June 1040)


1029681884615. Lucie De PROVENCE,415 daughter of William II Count Of Arles & PROVENCE and Arsenda De COMMINGES, was born about 978 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, Provence, France.

Lucie married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942307       i.  Amelie De RASEZ (born about 1000 in Le Razes, Narbonne, Languedoc, France - died in 1072)


1029681884616. Roger I De COMMINGES,415 son of Arnaud I Count Of COMMINGES & Carcassonne and Arsinde Countess Of CARCASSONNE, was born in 935 in Carcassonne, Aude, France and died in 1019 at age 84.

Roger married Adelaide De MELGUEIL 2700 in 970. Adelaide was born about 953 in Melgueil Near Montpellier, Herault, Languedoc, France and died in April 1011 about age 58.

1029681884617. Adelaide De MELGUEIL,415,2700 daughter of Bernard II Comte De MELGUEIL & Substantion and Senegunde, was born about 953 in Melgueil Near Montpellier, Herault, Languedoc, France and died in April 1011 about age 58.

Adelaide married Roger I De COMMINGES in 970. Roger was born in 935 in Carcassonne, Aude, France and died in 1019 at age 84.

1029681884768. Tancred Seigneur De HAUTEVILLE, son of Guiscard Seigneur De HAUTEVILLE and Unknown, was born about 910 in Hauteville, Manche, Normandy, France and died about 980 about age 70.

Tancred married.

The child from this marriage was:

514840942384       i.  Gerard Tancred Seigneur De HAUTEVILLE (born about 930 in Hauteville, Manche, Normandy, France - died about 1001)


1029681884788. Torf "The Rich" De HARCOURT,1454 son of Bernard "The Dane" De HARCOURT and Sprota Of BURGUNDY, was born about 930 in Harcourt, Brionne, Eure, Normandy, France.

Torf married Ermenberge De BRIQUEBEC.1454 Ermenberge was born about 930 in Bricquibec, Manche, Normandy, France and died about 955 1454 about age 25. Another name for Ermenberge was Ertemberge De BRICQUEBEC.

1029681884789. Ermenberge De BRIQUEBEC,1454 daughter of Amflec De BRIQUEBEC and Unknown, was born about 930 in Bricquibec, Manche, Normandy, France and died about 955 1454 about age 25. Another name for Ermenberge was Ertemberge De BRICQUEBEC.

Ermenberge married Torf "The Rich" De HARCOURT.1454 Torf was born about 930 in Harcourt, Brionne, Eure, Normandy, France.

1029681884790. Thurstan (Toussaint) Bastembourg De MONTFORT,415,902,2524 son of Anslec De BERTRAND and Unknown, was born about 942 in Bastembourg, Normandy, France and died about 1023 in Montfort-Sur-Risle, Eure, Normandy, France 905 about age 81. Another name for Thurstan was Toussaint De BERTRAND.

General Notes: Curt Hofemann, [email protected], wrote in a post-em:

[concerning the Norman family of Monfort-sur-Risle]. The first known ancestor of this house is Thurstan of Bastembourg who appears in a ducal charter of 1027 as possessed of land at Pont-Authou, and who, perhaps, also subscribed two charters for Saint-Wandrille which passed to the ducal court at about the same time. This Thurstan has a daughter, with whom the notorious Gere of Echauffour fell in love at first sight while dining with her father and also two sons - William Bertram, who can perhaps be seen in charters for Le Mont-Saint-Michel, and Hugh I of Montfort (some five miles from Pont-Anthou) who perished in the private wars with Walchelin of Ferrieres during the anarchy [of Duke William's minority]. [Ref: William The Conqueror, The Norman Impact Upon England by David C. Douglas 1964 University of California Press, Berkeley & LA, CA p88]

Thurstan married.

1029681884866. Geoffrey II Seigneur De SEMUR,415,2482,2693,2694 son of Geoffrey I Seigneur De SEMUR and Unknown, was born about 961 in Semur-En-Brionnais, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died in 1018 about age 57.

Geoffrey married Maud (Matilda\Mahaut) De CHALON 2693,2695 in Only Husband ?.2693 Maud was born about 969 in Chalon-Sur-Saone, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died between 1016 and 1019 2695 about age 47.

1029681884867. Maud (Matilda\Mahaut) De CHALON,415,2693,2695 daughter of Lambert D' AUTUN Count Of Chalon and Countess Adelaide Of BURGUNDY, was born about 969 in Chalon-Sur-Saone, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died between 1016 and 1019 2695 about age 47.

General Notes: Maud/Matilda definitely married Geoffrey of Semur, but the well-respected German source ES, in one of its conflicting pedigrees, has her also marrying Henry, Duke of Burgundy, and having a daughter Aremburga, who was wife of Dalmas I of Semur. This is probably not true, and ES has been shown to be inconsistent and erroneous in giving the spouse(s) of Henry. The spouse of Henry was a widow of Adalbert I King of Italy, and there is still a lot of debate concerning who her father (and mother) were.

The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 16 May 1997, by Jim Stevens, referring to an earlier post by Mat on 29 Apr 1997:

Matman <[email protected]> posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 29 Apr 1997:
Subject: Re: Untangling the Burgundy web

"For English readers, the Bouchard article (p261ff) is essential to understanding this confusion in ES. French historians etc have peddled various theories: the ES has noted all of them, hence the internal disagreement.

Some have favoured Leotald of Macon as the father of Gerberga, but Bouchard follows the more reliable ones (F.Lot, R.Poupardin etc) in seeing her as the daughter of Lambert. She lists 3 children of Lambert: Gerberga (m. 1) Adalbert (2) Henry; Matilda (m. Geoffrey), Hugo of Chalon. The sources clearly state that Matilda and Hugo were children of Lambert, but they don't mention the father of Gerberga.

The main argument for Gerberga being the daughter of Leotald is, I think, the fact that her great grandson Otto of Macon (not Otto-William) calls Leotald his _atavus_. The strict classical meaning of this is great-great-great-grandad, which would imply, that Gerberga was Leotald's grandaughter. However most who favour Leotald's parentage, have overlooked this inconvenient detail, and suggested that the term here just means distant ancestor.

The other evidence is the Life of Hugo of Chalon (d.1039) who says that his sister married the duke of Burgundy. This has been seen as Gerberga wife of Henry (d.1002). Those who favour Leotald as her father, say this sister was Matilda, who they say married Henry before she married Geoffrey of Semur. Thus if one rejects Lambert as the father of Gerberga, you have to invent a new wife for Duke Henry. I think ES III, 433-34 has these two marriages. Somewhere else in ES, it even gives this supposed marriage of Matilda and Henry a daughter, Aremburga, the wife of Dalmas I of Semur.

I havn't gone into all the various arguments, or evidence: its best to read Bouchard yourself, and decide whether you agree with her. Personally I prefer her no-nonsense approach, and the works of other notable historians (eg W.Kienast Die Herzogtitel in Frankreich & Deutschland, 1968) agree with her on the father of Gerberga being Lambert."

Maud married Henry Count De NEVERS Duke Of Burgundy,1601,2046,2693 son of Count Of Paris Hugh Magnus Capet Of Neustria, Duke Of The FRANKS Count Of Paris and Princess Of The Germans Hedwige Of SAXONY, in 1st Husband 1St Wife ? - Divorced ?.2693 Henry was born about 945 in Nevers, Nievre, Bourgogne, France and died in 1006 2046 about age 61. Another name for Henry was Henry I Duke Of BURGUNDY.

Maud next married Geoffrey II Seigneur De SEMUR 2482,2693,2694 in Only Husband ?.2693 Geoffrey was born about 961 in Semur-En-Brionnais, Saone-Et-Loire, Bourgogne, France and died in 1018 about age 57. picture


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