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Mother: Sarah Ann Nancy TALIAFERRO |
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_Charles HICKERSON __________|
| (1700 - 1790) |
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_David HICKERSON ____________|
| (1755 - 1833) m 1778 |
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| |_Mary "Molly" LYTLE (LITLE) _|
| (1700 - 1793) |
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|--David HICKERSON
| (1787 - ....)
| _(RESEARCH QUERY) TALIAFERRO of old Virginia_
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| _John TALIAFERRO ____________|
| | (1732 - 1780) |
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|_Sarah Ann Nancy TALIAFERRO _|
(1757 - 1840) m 1778 |
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Mother: JOYCE (Jocata) ROMNEY |
Children:
John LEE b: SEP 1616 d:
Richard LEE b: MAR 1617/18 d: 1 MAR 1663/64 + Anne CONSTABLE d:
25 MAY 1709
Thomas LEE b: ABT. 1619
"ALSO spelled LYES. OCCUPATION: Clothier, administration of
estate names widow Jan with security of Thomas HANCOCK,
clothier. The will of Edward HANCOCK (his father-in-law) of 1621
bequeathed twenty shillings to "John LYES this three sonns" then
under twenty-one. Children: 2 John LEE; 2 Thomas LEE
Src: Family History Library Salt Lake City, UT 84150
Title: Ancestral Roots Of Sixty Colonists Who Came To New
England Between 1623 And 1650 Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis
Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc., 1992
"The long accepted ancestry of Richard Lee, the emigrant, which
until recently has shown his English ancestor as Richard Lee of
Coton, was challenged by the American genealogist William
Thornedale who published his findings in 1988 which pointed to
an ancestor, John Lyes, from Worcester. (4)
Thornedale's Ancestry for Richard Lee.
Thornedale suggests that the 1666 will of John Best of Twining,
near Worcester, gives the vital clue to the ancestry of Richard
Lee. This will left bequests to many uncles, aunts and cousins
of John Best who was the grandson of Edward Hancock of Twining,
near Worcester. The will included a bequest to Richard and
Francis, the sons of Colonel Richard Lea whom Thornedale
identifies as the emigrant Colonel Richard Lee of Virginia who
had died several years earlier. (5) The rest of Thornedale's
article centres on the family and descendants of Edward Hancock
of Twining. He shows that one of Edward's daughters was Jane
Hancock who married John Lyes, a clothier or weaver, from
Worcester. (6)John and Jane had four children, Richard, John,
Edward and Thomas who were all baptised at Worcester St Martin
between 1616 and 1622. This Richard Lyes was identified by
Thornedale as Richard Lee who emigrated to America and became
Colonel Richard Lee, Secretary of State for Virginia, ancestor
to Robert E. Lee. Thornedale's argument for this Worcester
ancestry hinges on three suppositions. That this Richard Lyes
was Colonel Richard Lee. That the Colonel Lee, mentioned in the
will of John Best of Twining in 1666, was Colonel Richard Lee,
the emigrant. That Hancock Lee, the emigrant's son, was named
after his grandmother's maiden name.
I have looked at references to Colonel Lee in contemporary
archives and have found mention of two who were in England
within the period to 1666. The first was a Colonel Lee who was
in the garrison at Worcester when it surrendered to Parliament
in 1646, a Sir Robert Lee was also there. Of this Colonel Lee I
have found no other information. (7) The second was Colonel
Richard Lee of Great Delce, Kent, who was born in 1617 the son
of Richard Lee MP., whose family had held that manor for some
generations and who boasted among his ancestors Sir Edward Lee,
Archbishop of York, and Sir Richard Lee, knight, twice mayor of
the City of London. This Colonel Richard Lee died in 1652 and
had a son Richard and daughters Frances and Jane. (8) Maybe one
of these was the Colonel Lee mentioned in the will of John Best
or maybe Colonel Richard Lee of Virginia was the one mentioned,
I haven't found an indisputible link between John Best and
Colonel Richard Lee so I can't tell.
I have extensively researched the family of Edward Hancock of
Twining and have found no mention of the emigrant Colonel
Richard Lee or his family. There is no evidence pointing back
from the emigrant Lee family, other than the name Hancock, to
the Worcester family of John Lyes. There is no mention of Jane
Hancock and John Lyes or their children in any document that I
have found so far concerning the Lee family of America.
Thornedale's article gives details of the Hancock and Lyes
family and their business connections in London but does not
connect them directly to Richard Lee, the emigrant. He assumes
that Colonel Richard Lee, mentioned in John Best's will, is the
emigrant Richard Lee. Even if the person referred to in the will
was our Colonel Richard Lee there is still a large leap of faith
to attribute him as the son of John Lyes of Worcester. Some
branches of the Hancock and Best family were, or became, wealthy
as is shown by their wills, but John Lyes was just a poor
weaver. Richard Lee, the emigrant, was at home in a circle of
armigerous gentlemen and peers of the realm. He was appointed as
clerk to the court but rose swiftly to become Secretary of
State. He married Anne Constable, a ward of Sir Francis Wyatt
the new Governor of Virginia. To do all these things he must
have been well educated and have a family who could afford to
send him to school at one of the Inns of Court in London where
he would have obtained the necessary qualifications to ensure
his future.
My research into the family of John Lyes of Worcester has
yielded an extensive family tree with supporting evidence which
shows that John married Jane Hancock on 13th February 1616 at St
Andrews, Worcester. (6) They did indeed have four sons, John in
1616, Richard on 22nd March 1618, Edward who died young, and
Thomas on 29th May 1622, all baptised at St Martins, Worcester.
(10) John Lyes, the father, was buried in 1629.and was probably
baptised on 12th July 1590 at Worcester St Helens, being the son
of John Lyes and Ales Harte. They were married at Worcester All
Saints on 12th November 1589. The Worcester Clothiers Company
list of apprentices shows that in 1604 John Lyes, clothier, took
Richard Heming as an apprentice. (11) Thus both John Lyes, the
father of Richard, and his father John were clothiers or weavers
in Worcester. The will of John Harte, millner of All Saints,
Worcester in 1578 names his daughter Ales, she was baptised at
All Saints, Worcester on 30th April 1563. (12)
The corruption of the Lyes family name to Lee, accepted easily
by Thornedale, is one which I find difficult to accept. I have
spoken to people from Worcester with that name and they
pronounce their name as I would expect, as when one lyes down on
a bed, this cannot easily be interpreted as Lee."
[523125]
21 Oct 1599
_THOMAS LEE _________+
| (1482 - 1526) m 1505
_HUMPHREY LEE _______|
| (1506 - 1588) |
| |_JOHANNA MORTON _____+
| (1484 - 1526) m 1505
_JOHN LEE Esq.__________|
| (1530 - 1605) m 1553 |
| | _JOHN BLOUNT ________+
| | | (1457 - ....) m 1487
| |_KATHERINE BLOUNT ___|
| (1506 - 1591) |
| |_ELIZABETH YEO ______
| (1467 - ....) m 1487
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|--JOHN LEE
| (1590 - ....)
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| _JOHN ROMNEY Gent.___|
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|_JOYCE (Jocata) ROMNEY _|
(1529 - 1609) m 1553 |
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Father: Zephaniah SWAN Mother: Mary BEAL |
_Edward SWANN Sr.____________+
| (1630 - 1693)
_Thomas SWAN Sr._____|
| (1674 - 1742) m 1723|
| |_Susannah HEATH? ____________
| (1630 - ....)
_Zephaniah SWAN _____|
| (1740 - 1816) |
| | _John DENT I "the Immigrant"_
| | | (1645 - 1712) m 1670
| |_Abigail DENT _______|
| (1680 - ....) m 1723|
| |_Mary HATCH _________________+
| (1647 - 1726) m 1670
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|--Orpha SWAN
| (1771 - ....)
| _____________________________
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|_Mary BEAL __________|
(1751 - ....) |
| _____________________________
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Mother: Alice |
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_Peter WRIGHT "the Immigrant"_|
| (1600 - 1662) m 1630 |
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|--Gideon WRIGHT
| (1630 - 1685)
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|_Alice________________________|
(1600 - 1685) m 1630 |
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