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From the papers of Louise Elder Gillispie, Rt. 2 Billings, Missouri, 7/81.   Path Valley map

THE WILL OF ROBERT ELDER,1807  Will Book "B" p. 320, Chambersburg, PA.

  The Will of Robert Elder, of Fannett Township, Franklin County, Pennsylvania, yeoman.
 I give and devise the plantation I now live upon in the township, county and state aforesaid I give and devise the same unto my two sons Joseph and Samuel to be equally divided between them and I give and devise wife Mary all personal effects.  I give and devise to my son Samuel all my moveable property after the death of my wife Mary.  To my son David, all my waering apparel and forty pounds in cash and to son Abraham in Huntingdon County, forty pounds in cash and to my son John, thirty pounds in cash. To my son Robert, fifty pounds to be paid to him by the said Joseph and Samuel. And I also give to my son Matthew, three pounds five shillings to be paid to him by the said Joseph and Samuel and lastly I nominate and appoint my two sons Joseph Elder and Samuel Elder to be executors of this my last will and testament, hereby revoking all other wills by me made.  In witness whereof I have set my hand and seal this 4th day of October, 1799.
Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of us
Robert Simeson
James alexander
Proved April 27, 1807.

Deed Feb 4, 1819 Between Samuel Elder, of Fannett Twp, Franklin Co, PA and Jean his wife and
Joseph Elder of same.  Consideration Twenty pounds, far all his the said Samuel's share in the plantation situated in Fannett Twp. which was bequeathed to the said Joseph and Samuel by their father, Robert Elder by his last will and Testament dated Oct 4, 1791.
Deed Book 12, p. 190 Chambersburg, PA

Deed March 13, 1815.  Release of Joseph Elder and wife Mary, to Samuel Elder for all his the said Joseph Elder's share in the Plantation bequeathed to the said Joseph and Samuel by their father, Robert Elder, by will dated Oct 4, 1791.
Deed Book 11, p. 533, Chambersburg, PA.

Patent to Robert Elder, 1765
The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.  To All to whom these presents shall come.  Know Ye that in consideration of the munies paid by Robert and Mary Elder in trust, and Alexander McConnell, for the Warrants hereinafter mentioned and of the sum of fifty-five dollars and twenty-two cents in full since paid by Nicholas Keefer, into the Treasury office of the Commonwealth, there is granted by the said Commonwealth unto the said Nicholas Keefer, a certain tract of land situated in Hamilton Township, Franklin County, adjoining lands of John Bossart, John Eatten, John Hindman, Abraham Keefer, heirs of Andrew Marshall, heirs of James Hindman, containing 239 acres and 24 perches, which said tract of land was surveyed in pursuance of two warrants, one dated 20 Aug. 1765, and granted to the said Robert Elder and Mary his wife in trust, and the other dated 27 March 1788, granted to the said Alexander McConnell and the right of the said land became vested in the said Nicholas Keefer.
Patent Book H-8, p. 466, Harrisburg, Pa.
Dept. of Internal Affairs.

Robert's (1730-1807) Children:
[Added brackets from Lee Elder's list]
1. David [b. 1752, son of Robert and Elizabeth Watt] m. [11-15-1787] Jane BOGGS, dau. of Andrew
                   Settled 1796 Huntingdon Co PA or [Half Moon] Centre Co PA  d. 9 May 1822
                    [Buried: Graysville, Huntington Co PA]

2. Abraham, b. 1754, son  of Robert and Elizabeth Watt]
                     m. Susannah ARDERY, 1784 [1780], dau of James and Sarah
                     Settled in Centre Co, PA 1785  [d. 7-07-1827]
                     [Buried: Graysville, Huntington Co PA]   Susannah [d. 1831, Buried Graysville]

3. John, b. 1757, [son of Robert and Mary ___]
               m. Sarah BARR [6-24-1790, Cumberland PA-Middlespring Presb. Ch],
                                       dau of Thomas of Lurgan Twp
               d. after 1836                                                                                         [Land record of 1836 - To Laird]

4. Robert, b. 27 Dec 1760 [son of Robert and Mary ____]
               m. 7 Mar 1793 Susanna GAMBLE [dau Samuel and Eliz.]          Clymer to Robert Jr. - Land record of 1794
               d.1804  Will 3 Aug 1804  [Buried: Dry Run? Rev. soldier of Franklin Co]

5. Matthew, b. [1764, son of Robert and Mary___]
                  m. Jane McConnell 15 Dec 1796? dau of John and Rachel         Matthew Elder to Piper -1825
                  [Buried: Dry Run?]

6. Joseph, b. abt 1770 [11-20-1770, son of Robert and Mary___]                Joseph to son John - 1824
                m.  Mary "Polly" Walker  May 8, 1800
                         See: Path Valley Presbyterian Marriage Records, 1794 - 1800 (in Harrisburg, PA State Archives)
                 Joseph Sr. moved with JR. - to Westmoreland Co PA  before 1850 [Sr. d.1858, Ligonier, Westmoreland Co PA]

7. Samuel, b. after 1772 [son of Robert and Mary____]
                m. Jane TRUESDALE, 1797 (her mother: m/2 Isaac STARK)
                 d. Fannett Twp. Will probated 3-18-1847
    Children: Robert, Elizabeth, Joseph (b.1804),James,William,Abraham,Samuel,Sarah,John (b.1816?)
                      Joseph's children: William Oliver Elder, David, Mary Ann (m. Denton Oliver Shearer)
                      Joseph (1804-1886) and wife Mary buried  in Upper PV Presb. Church Cem
Thanks to Alfred Young for sending handwritten copy of Orphans Court Records:
Cumberland County, PA Orphans Court Records,
Docket (Book) 2, Page 174, 176, 177
Year 1773, February
"Upon the petition of Joseph Thorn eldest son of JOHN THORN late of Hamilton township Yeoman
Deceased to the Court setting forth that his Father Died Intestate
owner of two small Tracts of Land Situate in Hamilton Township in this county adjoining
Lands of George Mathews John Hindman John Bussard and the North Mountain
including a small improvement; and containing in the whole two hundred and Forty Acres or Thereabouts:
That he left Mary his Widow (now the Wife of a certain Robert ELDER) and lawfull Issue
Five Children namely Joseph (the Petitioner) James, Martha, Ester, & Ann:
That the said Lands cannot be Divided amongst all the children of the Deceased
without predudice to ...the whole and praying the Court to appoint an Inquest to view and value the same Lands...."

Gillispie letter 1980    Robert Bio        James (1712-1818)                        Franklin County Tax List 1796

Path Valley Churches

Franklin County's Revolutionary War Soldiers     Franklin County Land Warrants 1762-67

"David Elder and Margery Stewart Genealogy",published 1905, by Thomas Alexander Elder, Wooster, Ohio.

Joseph's Children, page 52 of "David Elder & Margery Stewart Genealogy"

David ELDER's son JOHN ELDER d. 1822 Hamilton Co OH--  Will

Ordered the LDS microfilm for Joseph ELDER and Mary "Polly" Walker
Film #1553651.  Batch #F516023
Children on printout:
1. Robert       b. abt 1801  Of, Fannett Twp, Franklin PA
2. Mary,        b. abt 1803   "
3. John,        b. abt 1805    "
4. Martha,     b. abt 1807    "
5. Samuel,     b. abt 1809    "
6. Alexander, b. abt 1811    "
7. Joseph,      b. abt 1813    "  [1850 Westmoreland Co census shows b. abt 1810]
8. Elizabeth,   b. abt 1815    "

Submitted by James W. GUTHRIE,
8 Council Crest Dr., Corte Madera, CA 94925
Phone: 415-927-7242 DATE: 29 DEC 1989

"Source notes" on various pages:
LDS FHL Batch file #F516023

Source for Abraham ELDER's page (as well as others):
"FHL Film 49108 Franklin Co PA"
"Certified copy of death certificate of Abraham, Franklin Co PA"
1860 Census Franklin Co PA
Upper Path Valley Prebyterian Church Cemetery records
Your Family Tree -PA
Correspondence to Louise Elder Gillispie of Billings MO

1850, 1860, 1870 Census Franklin Co PA
"Upper Path Valley Presbyterian Church Records, Spring Run, PA"
FHL Film 42423 pt 2 death of Mary Jane, wife #2 of Matthew
Correspondence to Phil Hammond of Spring Run, Franklin Co (since deceased).

Will of Samuel Elder Book E page 54 4-3-1844 Franklin Co PA
Penn Gravestone Inscriptions 974.8 V22Fo by JH Fox

1820 Census of Franklin Co PA        (for JOSEPH, b. 1770 d. 1858 Ligonier)
Joseph ELDEN? /ELDER Metal Twp. 1-2-1-1-0-1  1-0-2-0-1-0 2
Joseph Sr., b. 1770 would be 50 years old.
Joseph Jr., b.1810 would be 10 years old.
Using the form for 1820 age ranges:
1. 1 male under ten  (Alexander is 9)
2. 2 males of 10 & under 16   (Joseph Jr is 10, Samuel is 11)
3. 1male between 16 & 18  (John could be 16)
4. 1 male of 16 & under 26  (Robert is 19)
6. 1 of 45 and up  (Joseph is 50)
7. 1 female under 10   (Elizabeth is 5)
8. 2 of 10 and under 18   (Martha is 13, Mary is 17)
10. 1 of 26 and under 45  (wife Mary)
2 Agricultural

1810 Franklin Co, Warren Twp., p. 154
1830  "               , Fannett Twp, p. 219
1840  "               , Fannett Twp, p. 263
1850  "               , Fannett Twp, p. 387
1850  "               , Washington Twp, p. 132
1850 Westmoreland Co, Ligonier Twp, p. 008
1860  "                       , "                 , p. 560
1830   "                      , Unity           , p.322
1840   "                      , Unity            , p. 184
1850   "                       , Unity           , p.354
1860   "                       , Unity            , p. 1158

LOOKUP in WESTMORELAND Co for 1850 CENSUS of Ligonier Township
ELDER, Joseph, Jr., 28/28
ELDER, Thomas, 14/14
14/14 is George NICELY, 35, Farmer, $1200, Pa.
          in his home: Thomas ELDER, 58, Laborer, Md.

Joseph Jr. age 40    (b. abt. 1810- d. 1868) Will of 1868
Elizabeth age 33       (b. abt 1817)
Mary age 9              (b. abt 1841)
John age 7               (b. abt 1843)
Margaret age 4         (b. abt 1846)
Elizabeth 2              (b. abt 1848)
JOSEPH SR age 80  (b. abt 1770)
All born PA

JOSEPH ELDER Will of 1874
Westmoreland Co PA
Wife Jane
Children: Elisabeth, Robert, James, Alexander

JOHN ELDER Will of 1800
Westmoreland Co PA (Armstrong Twp)
His father: Thomas (brother of Rev John)
Wife Mary Caruthers
Children:  Isabella, Robert, Thomas, James, Elizabeth, Joseph ("of age" -b. abt 1779?)

Jane Stewart ATWELL's photo of William ELDER House in Dry Run:

"Marriages performed by the Rev. David Denny, D.D.,
 Path Valley, Franklin  Co., PA"
includes year: 1800
"May 8 - Joseph Elder to Polly Walker"
Path Valley Presbyterian Marriage Records, 1794 - 1800 :
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