Col. Samuel Elder, one of the best known and oldest citizens
of Western Pennsylvania, died yesterday at his home near Ligonier, Pa.
He was born at Carlisle, Pa, in 1805 and the greater part of his life was
spent in this state. During his life he had resided at Carlisle,
Uniontown, Brinton, Somerset and in recent years at Ligonier. He
was a Republican and prominent in the politics of Somerset county, where
he at one time held the office of clerk of the Orphan's court, register
and recorder. He had voted for 13 Presidents of the United States.
Col. Elder was one of the owners of the old stage line that ran from Pittsburg
to Chambersburg and while in the business made a large fortune, which he
later lost in attempting to run the mail through by stage from Independence,
Mo., to Salt Lake City. In 1819 Col. Elder took a trip down the Ohio
river in a flat boat, which was one of the last of its kind to make the
trip on the local waters. Col. Elder and his wife, Mrs. Margaret
Armor Bell, celebrated their golden wedding on December 10, 1898, and their
seventh daughter, Miss Fannie Elder, was married to Baker Johnson, of Frederick,
Md., on the same day. He is survived by his widow, and the following
children: Mrs. Martha J. Patrick, Mrs. Mary Hastings, of Philadelphia;
Mrs. Alice Holliday, of Baltimore; Mrs. M.E. Hudson , of Marysville, Cal.;
Mrs. A.E. Miller, Miss Josephine Elder, Samuel G., of Ligonier; George
W. of Redding, Cal., and John B. Elder, of Pittsburg. Mrs. Christian
I. McKee and William E. Patrick, of this city, and James S. McCord of Philadelphia,
Ligonier Valley Cemetery
Ligonier Valley Historical Society, Laughlintown, Westmoreland Co
Roy Bell's photos of Ligonier PA houses, cemetery stones, and obits
Map - See the ICE POND - and BELLS (Station) northwest of Ligonier
Research for Mrs. Mary Elder Hastings:
Research for Josephine Elder and Mrs. Alice Holliday (and dau Margaret):
JOSEPH ELDER Sr. and Jr. bio sketch in Ligonier Valley Historical
Society, mentions Samuel:
Portrait of Col. Samuel Elder in the Digital Pittsburgh copy of "The
OLD PIKE" book about
the Cumberland Road. Page 242.
Also on Page 242:
About the Old National House tavern and stagecoach station - Uniontown, PA -
"on the northwest corner of Morgantown and Fayette Streets..."
"Among others who kept the NATIONAL were George EVANS and Col. SAMUEL ELDER. The
latter is still living, a hale octogenarian, at Ligonier, Westmoreland county, Pa." 
...A mention of the People's Stage Line: "After a short run it was withdrawn from the road
east of Wheeling, and transferred to the Ohio division."
From Cemetery book "Look-up" in Westmoreland County PA: Westmoreland
"Ligonier Valley Cemeteries, v. 2, p. 35-36.
Book compiled by William L. Iscrupe,
Publ. by Southwest Pennsylvania Genealogical Services, c1976.
"These are all buried in Ligonier Valley Cemetery (Ligonier Pa) if their names are
together that means they are buried together." --by Joyce Martos
Anna V. Elder Miller 1841-1912 Married to Dr. John A. Miller
Joseph Elder Jr. 1811-1868
Eliza P. Elder 1816-1889
1884-1945 Married to
Charles E. Nicely [in Joyce's line]
1805-1900 "Our Father" "Col."
Margaret Bell Elder 1817-1906 "Our Mother" "His Wife"
Josephine Elder 1933
Samuel Gillette Elder 1936
John Bell Elder 1950
William A. Elder
Lettie A. Elder 1861-1939
This one is buried in Old Ligonier Cem
Infant Elder Born & Died 6-29-1880
Daughter of W. A. & L. ( William & Lettie)
Samuel's son GEORGE:
Redding City, Shasta County, California 1900 Census
ELDER, GEORGE W. age 49 b:PA F:PA M:PA head/bookkeeper
ELDER, ELLENA age 40 b:NJ F:NJ M:NJ
ELDER, WILLIAM H. age 13 b:CA F:PA M:NJ
Roy Bell reports:
JOHN McFARLAND ELDER, son of Joseph Jr.
arrived in Marysville, Yuba County, Calif. in 1867.
...Around 1872...Margaret E. and George W. Elder
came to Marysville" with Henry Clay BELL.
Margaret Elder Hudson is buried in old Marysville City
Cemetery, where John and William BELL are also buried.
See also Reno Washoe County, Nevada:
Census 1870 Page 23 House 179 154 Line 7
J.M. ELDER 28 PA Fast Freight Agent
Roy Bell's research in California and PA:
JOSEPH ELDER SR. and JR., from Smith/Elder Genealogy, Ligonier Valley
12/04/2003: More of Roy's notes about Samuel:
Col. Samuel Elder 1805-1900, in his obits they mentioned that he had lived in
Brinton Station for a while. ...
In the 1860s & 70's there was a Brinton Station on the Penn. Central main line
SW of Pittsburgh between Baddock & Turtle Creek around where East Pittsburgh is now.
Also son-in-laws and an aunt were from this area.
I can't find Samuel listed on the map so he may have moved to the Bell farm in Ligonier or sold out.
Also found a son William that I didn't have listed.
1850 census Union Borough, Fayette Co., PA pg. 200
Samuel Elder 45 Innkeeper (National Hotel) $1000
Martha & Mary married.
1860 census Turtle Creek PO, Wilkins TWP, Allegheny Co., PA pg. 837
Samuel Elder 55 Boarding House $8000
Margaret 43 Wife
William 21 Farmer
George W. 9
Samuel Jr. 7
Col. ELDER Self M Male W 75 PA Farmer IRE IRE
Margaret ELDER Wife M Female W 63 PA Keeps House PA PA
Annie MILLER Dau W Female W 39 PA At Home PA PA
Josephine ELDER Dau S Female W 26 PA At Home PA PA
Saml. G. ELDER Son S Male W 27 PA At Home PA PA
Alice ELDER Dau S Female W 18 PA At Home PA PA
Abigell BELL Aunt S Female W 86 PA PA PA
Alexander BELL BroL S Male W 52 PA Works On Farm PA PA
Robet RUNBAGH Other S Male W 25 RUSSIA Laborer RUSSIA RUSSIA
Census Place: Ligonier, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Family History Library Film 1255203
NA Film Number T9-1203
Page Number 165D
Can't find Samuel in 1870, but should have been west with the stage
line running mail from
Independence MO. to Salt Lake City. He may have been a minor owner in what became the Pony Express & Wells
Fargo. I'm working on this!
See Hastings.htm for George at age 19 in Philadelphia at the Hastings Institute (Leather School)
See Craighead.htm for Jessie m. Franklin Gordon Craighead
(From Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Jan 10, 1863)
Reprinted in ELDER FAMILY NEWSLETTER
Vol 2 #3 - July-Sept. 1994, page 9:
WILLIAM ELDER, d. Jan 8, 1863,
in Hospital at Washington City [D.C.]
of wounds in the battle of Frederick,
Sergt. Wm. B. Elder, of
CO B 91st Reg't Penn's Vols.
Funeral To-day (Jan 10th) at 2 o'clock p.m.
Carriages will be in attendance at the
Depot of the Pennsylvania Railroad,
to proceed to the Allegheny Cemetery.
91st Regiment Webpage for William ELDER, webpage by Harry IDE:
Entered E-mail query form in GENERAL INFORMATION, ALLEGHENY CEM webpage:
Answered next day online by ALLEGHENY CEMETERY SERVICE:
Subject: Re: Customer Service Form
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:55:58 -0500
From: "Allegheny Cemetery Service" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Organization: Allegheny Cemetery
We have a Capt. W. B. Elder in Section 22 Lot 34 who died in 1863. Photo of Cemetery marker for Wm. BELL ELDER
He is not buried with any other Elders.."
Map of Allegheny Cemetery: Section 22 is in SE area, not far
from the Penn Street entrance:
Harry IDE has added info:
William B. ELDER's mother applied for pension, 6 MAR 1903
Application #779816, but no certificate number, so probably not granted.
His death date on PA archives card: 8 Jan 1863.
PATRICK family in Allegheny Cemetery - with WALLACE and McKEE http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/AlleghenyCemPatrickWallace