Newspaper obit for Col. Samuel ELDER, d.1900.  Another Obit from Pittsburgh 1900

 Col. Samuel Elder, one of the best known and oldest citizens of Western Pennsylvania, died yesterday at his home near Ligonier, Pa.  He was born at Carlisle, Pa, in 1805 and the greater part of his life was spent in this state.  During his life he had resided at Carlisle, Uniontown, Brinton, Somerset and in recent years at Ligonier.  He was a Republican and prominent in the politics of Somerset county, where he at one time held the office of clerk of the Orphan's court, register and recorder.  He had voted for 13 Presidents of the United States.  Col. Elder was one of the owners of the old stage line that ran from Pittsburg to Chambersburg and while in the business made a large fortune, which he later lost in attempting to run the mail through by stage from Independence, Mo., to Salt Lake City.  In 1819 Col. Elder took a trip down the Ohio river in a flat boat, which was one of the last of its kind to make the trip on the local waters.  Col. Elder and his wife, Mrs. Margaret Armor Bell, celebrated their golden wedding on December 10, 1898, and their seventh daughter, Miss Fannie Elder, was married to Baker Johnson, of Frederick, Md., on the same day.  He is survived by his widow, and the following children:  Mrs. Martha J. Patrick, Mrs. Mary Hastings, of Philadelphia; Mrs. Alice Holliday, of Baltimore; Mrs. M.E. Hudson , of Marysville, Cal.; Mrs. A.E. Miller, Miss Josephine Elder, Samuel G., of Ligonier; George W. of Redding, Cal., and John B. Elder, of Pittsburg.  Mrs. Christian I. McKee and William E. Patrick, of this city, and James S. McCord of Philadelphia, are grandchildren.
Samuel's children--obits:

Ligonier Valley Cemetery

Ligonier Valley Historical Society, Laughlintown, Westmoreland Co PA

Roy Bell's photos of Ligonier PA houses, cemetery stones, and obits

Map - See the ICE POND - and BELLS (Station) northwest of Ligonier

Research for Mrs. Mary Elder Hastings:


Research for Josephine Elder and Mrs. Alice Holliday (and dau Margaret):

JOSEPH ELDER Sr. and Jr. bio sketch in Ligonier Valley Historical Society, mentions Samuel:

Portrait of Col. Samuel Elder in the Digital Pittsburgh copy of "The OLD PIKE" book about
the Cumberland Road. Page 242.
 Also on Page 242:
About the Old National House tavern and stagecoach station - Uniontown, PA -
"on the northwest corner of Morgantown and Fayette Streets..."
"Among others who kept the NATIONAL were George EVANS and Col. SAMUEL ELDER.  The
latter is still living, a hale octogenarian, at Ligonier, Westmoreland county, Pa." [1894]
  ...A mention of the People's Stage Line: "After a short run it was withdrawn from the road
east of Wheeling, and transferred to the Ohio division."

From Cemetery book "Look-up" in Westmoreland County PA:  Westmoreland Co Research
"Ligonier Valley Cemeteries, v. 2, p. 35-36.
Book compiled by William L. Iscrupe,
Publ. by Southwest Pennsylvania Genealogical Services, c1976.
"These are all buried in Ligonier Valley Cemetery (Ligonier Pa) if their names are
together that means they are buried together." --by Joyce Martos

Anna V. Elder Miller   1841-1912     Married to Dr. John A. Miller

Joseph Elder Sr.                              1770-1858
Joseph Elder Jr.                               1811-1868
Eliza P. Elder                                   1816-1889

Lydia Elder Nicely                           1884-1945     Married to
Charles E. Nicely                            [in Joyce's line]

Samuel Elder             1805-1900  "Our Father"   "Col."
Margaret Bell Elder    1817-1906   "Our Mother"  "His Wife"
Josephine Elder                  1933
Samuel Gillette Elder          1936
John Bell Elder                   1950

William A. Elder                1854-1932
Lettie A. Elder                    1861-1939

This one is buried in Old Ligonier Cem
Infant Elder                       Born & Died  6-29-1880
Daughter of W. A. & L.  ( William & Lettie)
Samuel's son GEORGE:
Redding City, Shasta County, California  1900 Census
  ELDER, GEORGE W.   age 49   b:PA F:PA  M:PA  head/bookkeeper
  ELDER, ELLENA        age 40    b:NJ  F:NJ  M:NJ
  ELDER, WILLIAM H.  age 13   b:CA F:PA  M:NJ

Roy Bell reports:
 JOHN McFARLAND ELDER, son of Joseph Jr.
arrived in Marysville, Yuba County, Calif. in 1867.
...Around 1872...Margaret E. and George W. Elder
came to Marysville" with Henry Clay BELL.
Margaret Elder Hudson is buried in old Marysville City
Cemetery, where John and William BELL are also buried.

See also Reno Washoe County, Nevada:
Census 1870 Page 23 House 179 154 Line 7
J.M. ELDER 28 PA Fast Freight Agent

Roy Bell's research in California and PA: 




JOSEPH ELDER SR. and JR., from Smith/Elder Genealogy, Ligonier Valley Hist. Soc.

 12/04/2003:    More of Roy's notes about Samuel:
Col. Samuel Elder 1805-1900, in his obits they mentioned that he had lived in
Brinton Station for a while. ...
In the 1860s & 70's there was a Brinton Station on the Penn. Central main line
SW of Pittsburgh between Baddock & Turtle Creek around where East Pittsburgh is now.
                         See  http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=76v01p13&levels=5&originx=0&originy=0&lastlevel=3&fullheight=3955&fullwidth=4774&level=1&size=1&tnail.x=117&tnail.y=103

 Also son-in-laws and an aunt were from this area.
I can't find Samuel listed on the map so he may have moved to the Bell farm in Ligonier or sold out.

Also found a son William that I didn't have listed.
                         1850 census Union Borough, Fayette Co., PA pg. 200
                              Samuel Elder  45   Innkeeper   (National Hotel)  $1000
                              Margaret        33
                              Martha           15
                              Mary              13
                              William           11
                              Anna               9
                             Josephine         5
                              Margaret         4
                              Jessie               2

                         Martha & Mary married.

                         1860 census Turtle Creek PO, Wilkins TWP, Allegheny Co., PA pg. 837
                             Samuel Elder        55        Boarding House     $8000
                             Margaret               43        Wife
                             William                 21        Farmer
                             Anna                    18
                             Josephine             16
                             Margaret              14
                              Jessie                   12
                             George W.             9
                             Samuel Jr.             7
                             Frannie                  4
                             John                       2
1880 Ligonier
Col. ELDER   Self   M   Male   W   75   PA   Farmer   IRE   IRE 
 Margaret ELDER   Wife   M   Female   W   63   PA   Keeps House   PA   PA 
 Annie MILLER   Dau   W   Female   W   39   PA   At Home   PA   PA 
 Josephine ELDER   Dau   S   Female   W   26   PA   At Home   PA   PA 
 Saml. G. ELDER   Son   S   Male   W   27   PA   At Home   PA   PA 
 Alice ELDER   Dau   S   Female   W   18   PA   At Home   PA   PA 
 Abigell BELL   Aunt   S   Female   W   86   PA      PA   PA 
 Alexander BELL   BroL   S   Male   W   52   PA   Works On Farm   PA   PA 
 Robet RUNBAGH   Other   S   Male   W   25   RUSSIA   Laborer   RUSSIA   RUSSIA 
Source Information:
  Census Place: Ligonier, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
  Family History Library Film   1255203
  NA Film Number   T9-1203
  Page Number   165D      

Can't find Samuel in 1870, but should have been west with the stage line running mail from
Independence MO. to Salt Lake City. He may have been a minor owner in what became the Pony Express & Wells
Fargo. I'm working on this!
  See Hastings.htm for George at age 19 in Philadelphia at the Hastings Institute (Leather School)
  See Craighead.htm for Jessie m. Franklin Gordon Craighead

(From Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Jan 10, 1863)
Vol 2 #3 - July-Sept. 1994, page 9:
WILLIAM ELDER, d. Jan 8, 1863,
in Hospital at Washington City [D.C.]
of wounds in the battle of Frederick,
Sergt. Wm. B. Elder, of
CO B 91st Reg't Penn's Vols.
Funeral To-day (Jan 10th) at 2 o'clock p.m.
Carriages will be in attendance at the
Depot of the Pennsylvania Railroad,
to proceed to the Allegheny Cemetery.
91st Regiment Webpage for William ELDER, webpage by Harry IDE:

Entered E-mail query form in GENERAL INFORMATION, ALLEGHENY CEM webpage:
Answered next day online by ALLEGHENY CEMETERY SERVICE:
Subject:  Re: Customer Service Form
Date:  Fri, 31 Dec 2004 08:55:58 -0500
From: "Allegheny Cemetery Service" <service@alleghenycemetery.com>
Organization:  Allegheny Cemetery
To:  <NancyP@Teleport.com>
We have a Capt. W. B. Elder in Section 22 Lot 34 who died in 1863.    Photo of Cemetery marker for Wm. BELL ELDER
He is not buried with any other Elders.."

Map of Allegheny Cemetery:  Section 22 is in SE area, not far from the Penn Street entrance:

Harry IDE has added info:
William B. ELDER's mother applied for pension, 6 MAR 1903
Application #779816, but no certificate number, so probably not granted.
His death date on PA archives card: 8 Jan 1863.
 PATRICK family in Allegheny Cemetery - with WALLACE and McKEE http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/AlleghenyCemPatrickWallace