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Points to Ponder

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I found (an online genealogy showing that) an Elizabeth Harrison  married a Thomas Warren on 2 May 1793. 
Elizabeth Harrison had a brother Reuben Harrison and her father's name was Reuben Harrison. --- Might this be a clue in view of the Warren connection to John Allen Elmore and Reuben Harrison Clinton Elmore? ( T. L. Warren the uncle of the John A. Elmore's two children as stated on his 2nd wife's pension application ).   Their uncle Thomas L. Warren was born about 1828 and married to an Elizabeth Elmore born about 1832.
There was a Reuben Harrison in Miller County, Missouri  in 1840.

(The line between Camden and Miller Counties changed in 1845.)

 
Index of Awards on Claims of the Soldiers of the War of 1812  page 164
No.: 7,037
NAME OF APPLICANT.: Elmore, Reuben, by Administratrix,
RESIDENCE OF APPLICANT.: Walworth, Wayne County, N. Y.,
AMOUNT ALLOWED.: 58 00
 
     I am looking for those elusive Elmore's too.   Did I send you the notes that I have about the Elmore's trying to rob the mail one of my ancestors was carrying?   That leads me to believe that my Elmore's and your Elmore's are the same bunch. 
 
     My father, Fred Hibdon, told me that there were brothers of Mary Elmore Hibdon in the area also, they had settled around Climax Springs, Missouri.   One time when Grandpa Tom Hibdon was a mail carrier he was traveling south of Gravois Mills on horseback.   A man with a mask over his face jumped from the bushes beside the road onto his horse behind him and tried to grab his mail bags.   He didn't succeed, Grandpa Tom was sure it was one of the Elmore's.           (A prank perhaps?)
 (See Travis Elmore's Will in Robertson Co., TN, for the Hibdon connection to Travis Elmore.)

Contributed by Pat Calton who is searching for information on Mary Elmore Hibdon and Vina Elmore Hibdon.

     Peter (1798) and Mary Elmore(1801) Hibdon were born in Tennessee.   Peter's parents are John and Vina Elmore Hibdon.   Their children are Thomas, Melvina, Henry, Ralph, Peter, and George.  

     The family left Tennessee and moved to Illinois.   Peter left the family in Illinois and traveled to Morgan County, Missouri where he purchased land in 1841.   Upon his return to Illinois, he became sick and died.   Mary brought the children on her own and settled on the land Peter had bought for them.   It is possible that one son returned to Illinois to live and that they may have left a daughter in Tennessee. 

 
 
History of Laclede, Camden, Dallas, Wester, Wright, Texas, Pulaski, Phelps and Dent Counties, Missouri
Goodspeed Publishing Co. 1889, page 889, Camden Co. Biographical Appendix

     R.H.C. Appleton, a dealer in general merchandise, and a farmer of Adair Township, Camden County, was born in that county January 22, 1854, and is a son of John and Levina (Elmore) Appleton, both natives of Tennessee.  

     John Appleton, who was a blacksmith and farmer, was born in 1823; he moved from Tennessee to Jefferson City, Mo., and afterward located at Linn Creek, Mo.   He was twice married, and was the father of sixteen children, eleven of whom are still living.  The paternal grandfather of our subject was John Appleton, a native of South Carolina, who afterward went to Tennessee, and was a farmer, millwright, and carpenter; he served in the War of 1812, participating in the battle of New Orleans, and his wife was Polly (Pepper) Appleton, of Virginia.    John Appleton, Sr., died in 1843.    Mrs. Levina Appleton died in 1863.    She was a daughter of Ebenezer Elmore, of Tennessee.  

     R.H.C. Appleton has devoted the greater part of his attention to the pursuit of farming, but in 1879, as a member of the firm of A.J. Campbell & Co., he engaged in the mercantile business at Osage Iron Works Post-office, which he continued until 1881; in the latter year he purchased and moved to a farm of 150 acres in Adair Township, which he still owns, and has about 100 acres under cultivation.   He also owns other landed property, in all amounting to about 622 acres.    In March, 1887, he purchased a new stock of general merchandise, and in partnership with Henry Dougherty opened a store at Osage Iron Works, which they still conduct with success.   In 1881 Mr. Appleton married Miss Rosa E. Carroll, who was born in Camden County, Mo., in December, 1855, and is a daughter of George and Cordelia A. Carroll, natives of Kentucky. Of the children born to Mr. and Mrs. Appleton only one survives, Myrtle Eve.   In politics Mr. Appleton is a Democrat.

Does anyone have any information on an Ebenezer Elmore of Tennessee?

I found these  Ebenezer Elmore's ( a  Lieut,  a Surgeon, a Ensign) in the Revolutionary War, but their Roll Description says NJ.   Because of Roll Box number, I think this may only be two individuals..... Any ideas??? 

Revolutionary War Service Records, 1775-83
ELMORE, EBENEZER
  Rank - Induction: 2 LIEUT
  Roll Box: 63
  Roll Description: NJ
ELMORE, EBENEZER
  Rank - Induction: SURGEON
  Roll Box: 57
  Roll Description: NJ
ELMORE, EBENR
  Rank - Induction: SURGEON
  Roll Box: 57
  Roll Description: NJ
ELMORE, EBENZN
  Rank - Induction: 1 LIEUTENANT
  Roll Box: 63
  Roll Description: NJ
ELMORE, EBEZN
  Rank - Induction: ENSIGN
  Roll Box: 63
  Roll Description: NJ
Was Ebezn Elmore in the Navy or was he a flag bearer?  We did have a navy during this War.
enˇsign [ (flag) énsən, én sn, (rank) énsən ] (plural enˇsigns)    noun
1. flag indicating allegiance: a flag that shows the nationality of the ship or aircraft flying it or what military unit it belongs to
2. navy U.S. Navy rank: a commissioned officer of the lowest rank in the United States Navy or Coast Guard
3. badge of office: an emblem or sign that indicates an authority or command
4. flag bearer: somebody who carries a standard or national emblem ( dated

 

 The one piece that stood out is the son named John A. Elmore.  You probably know that virtually all Elmore research (Southern rather than Northern Elmores) stems from research done years ago by the descendents of General John Archer Elmore.  He was born in Virginia, spent his mid-life in SC and moved later to Alabama, where a county was named for him.  He left a string of descendents across several southern states who were rather prominent.  One ran against Calhoun as a Senator from SC.  One was the Treasurer of the Confederacy from Alabama, etc.  Do you have any idea what the A. stands for?
 
The other child's lengthy name probably represents something.  Maybe the mother's maiden name?  It's pretty elaborate for a time period when most folks didn't even have a middle name.  To use such a name usually signifies mother's maiden name, names of grandparents and so forth.  I have one in my family that is William Samuel Kelley Elmore.  The William and Samuel are the two grandfather's names, and I still can't figure out where the "Kelley" came from.  It's still used today with several descendents being name Kelley.   Good luck and I'll let you know if I find something.     Larry

 

     

    In the 1850 census Deborah Elmore occupied household #66 and a David White was household #67 and a Moses White was household #69.  Her age was 46 and his was 68 and 52(?) respectfully.  Could David be her father?   Her uncle?   A cousin?  or no relationship at all.    Does anyone have a White family bible?     

Click here to view the actual 1850 census.

 

   In 1860, Camden County, Adair Township a David White (age changed, but same birthplace) was living next door to John & Levina Appleton (Deborah Elmore's daughter).     Click here or on the menu item to see this census record.

How were the White's and Elmore's related?   Any ideas? 

Webmaster note:  My grandmother Elmore (daughter-in-law to John Reuben Elmore) thought that Deborah's maiden name might have been White, but she wasn't sure.

 

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