McClung Association Newsletter: 20 Aug 2002

McCLUNG FAMILY ASSOCIATION NEWSLETTER
20 AUG 2002


Clans & Tartans:

      H. Juhling McClung has donated an article he wrote some time back to help us understand where we stand as a people with tartans. We may add some more information later: Clans & Tartans

The Alabama/Arkansas McClungs:

      We have posted the 1840 census index for Alabama: AL CENSUS INDEX As you can see, we are needing to post some of these counties. If you have these transcriptions, please send them in. We will need to get the PA/VA families posted before trying to sort out the various lines who went to Alabama. When land opened there, people from all over moved to Alabama. We have some of the Georgia lines who went into Alabama but some of the McClungs were from TN, PA, VA and elsewhere. Many of the southern lines moved on into Arkansas as well as the Alabama people who were from all over. We have posted the Arkansas census reports: ARK 1850 CENSUS
and ARK 1860 CENSUS although they are not complete. Please help if You have some of these. We have added the ones sent in to the Journal over the years but back then we didn't have the AIS indexes to tell us where to search. Everything keeps getting better.

The Georgia McClungs:

      We are still working hard on these lines. We hope to get the early lineages established soon so we can focus on getting the rest of the McClungs posted. You may see our research listing at: GEORGIA RESEARCH. We just ordered 18 more films yesterday.

      You will see many more postings under the county names. It has been too long since our last letter to comment on these. Please visit the listings at: the Index to our database.

      We have taken the information from all the new postings and added it to the family files. Please go over the ones that affect your family and see that the additions are correct. It is hard for one person to do this correctly. Not knowing your families makes it even more difficult.

      As mentioned in the previous letter, we are working to sort out the Williams in the Georgia families. At this point it looks as though there were two William W.s creating records in the same general locality. We believe that the William W. born before 1800 was the Wiley McClung in Campbell County in 1850. He is placed as a son to John Sr. and Elizabeth McClung. The other William W. was probably named William Wright McClung and he is the son of Reuben and Polly and born ca 1809. There are ten years difference in these men and we may never know for sure which record belongs to whom when tracking the deeds. William Wright moved to Lafayette Co., AR. We do not yet know where William Wiley was after 1850 but more records are being ordered which may shed some light.

      The William E. McClung found in 1850 Carroll County, GA was born in 1814 and does not appear to fit into John and/or Reuben's families. He may belong to Reuben H. McClung who married Margaret Jones in 1824 in Carroll Co. Reuben H. was born in the same time period as Reuben B. McClung and so cannot belong to the John/Elizabeth McClung family. The only other family having children in this time period that we know of so far was George and Myrada McClung who lived in Warren, Greene and Putnam counties. So at this time the family of William E. is placed under Reuben H. in George's line. We are hoping that further searches of Carroll and Campbell counties will help us sort out the connections between William E. and the other Georgia families. Watch for these postings in the next month. Kelly has sent a jpg of Hiram Thomas McClung. He is the son of Hiram and Margaret Moore. Don't you love this hat? HIRAM THOMAS McCLUNG

      Most of the Georgia family listings have been updated. We have not yet combined the records of John, the revolutionary war soldier with the John who married Elizabeth (Linn/Bellah?) We are hoping that some other record would come to light which would shed more light on this problem. We have a lot of information from John's applications for pension based on his revolutionary war service. At the bottom of this file: John's Pension Application. He answers to a question that he first enrolled from Edgefield County, South Carolina. Records show that he also enrolled from Rowan County, North Carolina: ROWAN CO, NC TAXES. He enrolled in Rowan in 1779. According to the pension applications, he enrolled several places and for certain duties. It is very much unlike subsequent military duties where men enrolled for longer periods of time for wherever their commanders sent them. There seems to be a descrepancy between his testimony on the applications and the records we found. He says that he enlisted at SC in May 1779 but we find record of his enlistment in Rowan Co. same month and year in NC. Now he was awarded bounty land in NC but appears that he didn't keep it up and did not pay taxes on it in 1785. That was the year that Reuben was born and may have been his first son. Reuben was born in Georgia. It is possible that John and Elizabeth were married in North Carolina. We have not found their marriage in Georgia records.

      This man seems to have moved about so much that his children were very confused about their origins. We know that Sewell, Hiram and Drucilla were siblings. These three children lived to be enumerated in the 1880 census - the first one where people gave the place of birth of their parents. Sewell said his parents were born in VA. Hiram said his were born in SC and Drucilla said MD. This is puzzling but maybe not so hard to understand as John left Georgia in 1806. They were very small. Elizabeth stayed in GA and was with the children longer. Her parents were probably from Maryland and that is the memory that Drucilla had. The Linns were from Delaware but all these states were bordering each other and may have added to the confusion.

      We have the statements by John McClung that he was in Edgefield County, SC. We cannot find any McClung in the deed records of this county so he may have been staying with relatives of another name. Two of his children say they were born in S.C. The list as it now stands of children of John McClung's first marriage are:

Reuben B. born 1785 in GA
Jonas b. 1789 in GA
Richard b. 1791 in SC
John b. ca1793 in GA
William Wiley b. ca 1796 in SC
Robert b. 1797 in Warren Co. GA
Drucilla b. 1798 in GA
Elizabeth b. ?
Hiram b. 1802 in GA
Sewell H. b. 1804 in GA

      Now we have two of the older sons over in Haywood Co., NC in 1810. If both of our records of John are of one and the same man, these two older sons could be Richard and Robert. Robert moved on to Alabama by 1815 and Richard moved to Alabama perhaps a little later. We are hoping that Blount Co. AL deeds will reveal the timing. Jonas moved to Tennessee and then to Marion Co. Alabama. Hiram eventually moved to Randolph Co., AL. Reuben, John and Drucilla remained in Georgia.

      The 1810 census NC CENSUSES shows John with a wife and children: 2 sons and 4 daughters. We do not know if he married a widow with children but this is not likely Elizabeth as we have her in 1820 living with John Jr. family. John McClung has not been found in the 1820 census so far. We think that the records of John McClung are of one and the same man because of the connections to NC found in the GA:GREENE CO. DEEDS. This together with the lack of any record of a John McClung dying in Jackson or Hall counties in Georgia leads us to believe that when soldier said he went to NC in 1806, he left some of this family behind. If we can find any further information to make a different conclusion, it would be welcomed.

      The generation before John is still not conclusive. We know that his parents died after they came to Georgia. We do not find land records for any but Robert in the vacinity of Warren Co. The English Crown Grants show that Robert Sr. had land surveyed in 1769 at Wrightsboro (no longer on the atlas) and the grant confirmed in 1770. It is possible that Wrightsboro is in present day Warren although at the time it was in St. Paul's Parish which later became Richmond: GA:CROWN GRANTS. So far we have only found a William McClung in the GA: RICHMOND DEEDS. We do not know which William this might be as the William who married Euphemia Cunningham had not yet moved to Georgia. He may have come down and purchased land and then moved his family later - or this William could be a son of the St. Paul's Parish family.

      We still have many mysteries to solve: Who were the parents of John, the revolutionary soldier? Were there two families of John McClungs, and if so, how do we learn which children belong to whom? How was John related to people in North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland and Delaware ? Hopefully new records will help.

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From Maryann Gentzel:

I found this at our "local library" and thought you might be interested. It is from the 1802 Minutes Walnut Fork Baptist Church (Jackson Co., Ga.) Nov 13th 1802

Met in conference at Watts M.H. after prayer called for the peace of the church being in peace opened a door then joined Margaret TEDFORD, John MCCLUNG, Elizabeth MCCLUNG, Robert DOWDY COTY Sarah MCCATEKEN, Brother Thomson reported that we were received into the association. J. Thomson, clerk

Jan 8 1803 Met in conference at Watts M.H. found in peace. Received Ruiben MCCLUNG Elizabeth THOMSON, Nancy PRICE, Polly THOMSON Joseph Thomson Clerk

Feb 12 1803 Met in conference at Watts M.H. Found in peace. Appointed John MCCLUNG and W.M.BELL as elders and W.M. BENNETT deacon. Opened a dood (typo, I'm sure). Received Charles PRICE, Randal BURRY, Betty HOWARD, John HOWARD, Elizabeth TEDFORD, Polly WILLIAMSON J. Thomson Clerk

October 27th 1821 Church met found peace dismised sister Letti WILLIAMSON by letter and also Lettiha WILLIAMSON by letter Dismised Brother and Sister MCCLUNG by letter.

I did not have time to read the entire book, I was at a historical society meeting. I will try to go back in the near future and see what else they have. They (the historical society) have just recently moved all their records to this library. I photcopied the records I just gave you from the book and typed them up for you, double checked them and they are just as in the original from the library.

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Research Tip:

You can find an outline of many sources for research on the internet at this main page:RESEARCH INDEX. If you have time to look up some records in this and find anything relating to McClung, be sure to cut and paste it to an email that you can send in.

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Queries:

Note: We receive queries nearly every day. Those that cannot be answered from this desk are posted here for your assistance:

From Larry Smith:

I have My GGreatGrandmother; Emma McClung who married Melvin E. Brown on 11 Jan 1887 in Hindsboro, Douglas Co., Illinois. She is listed as being 17 yrs. of age on the marriage cert.. Her parents (also on M.C.) were John McClung and Susan Lowman. I have not found anything on John and the only Susan Lowman I have found has a birthdate as 1861 . So unless that date is in error She can't be Emma's Mother at 8 yrs old. I have copies of Emma's marriage Certificate from two different sources so I tend to believe with Her being 17 at the time of marriage puts Her being born in 1869 as being correct. I think that Their marriage can now be posted in the Illinois Marriages for Hindsboro, Douglas County. If anyone has any further info please contact Me; Larry I. Smith @ [email protected]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brenda from Wellington, FL here.
Roots to Missouri:
1. Here's the problem: Martha McClung

2. Martha McClung immigrated to U.S. from Cork (perhaps, only documentation is from my grandma's recollection of things being said).

3. Martha McClung Married Josiah Conner (son of Dennis Conner, the son of Martin and Martha Conner).
4. Josiah was born and lived most of his life in Miller County, Missouri.

5. The marraige took place in Ft. Scott, Ksin 1858(according to the same fuzzy documentation by grandma). I know of no military connection for Josiah.

Remember, this is the time of Bloody KS, so I can't think of a reason why he would have gone-stayed-courted-married anyone in Ft. Scott unless my information is wrong/he was a soldier of sorts.

6. Martha McClung and Josiah Conner have a son, John William Conner. John William Conner later became a Representative for Missouri from Miller County 1916, 1918, and was called "Judge" Conner.

7. John William Conner never really knew Martha because she apparently died when he was very small. His father remarried by the time John William was 8.

8. I have checked more than 100 manifests from Ireland from 1830s-1860s. She and (or any McClungs) are yet to be found.

9. I have her picture. She was a round faced, pug nosed, blue-eyed, dark haired, attractive young woman.

Any help or direction you can give would be appreciated.
10. I have no other facts concerning my gggrandmother, Martha McClung Conner.
Thanks again
Brenda in FL : [email protected]

Hoping some of you who are working on the Irish end can make a connection for her. (JMc)
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Thanks Judith for answering my enquiry for the McClungs.

As you can gather I am having trouble tracing my line back.

My gggrandfather Gilbert McClung and his spouse Agnes nee Logan emigrated to NZ soon after they were married.

They arrived on the Lady Jocelyn in August 1878 and settled in Katikati. They were the only McClung's to arrive in NZ so there are very few of them around here.

They were married on the 23 Nov 1877, Lagg, Maybole, AYR.

Gilbert's parents were Samuel McClung and Catherine nee Newlands or Newal, they were married on I Jun 1844/5, at Barr, Maybole.

Other siblings in the family were, Mathew, Margaret b 1856, Samuel b 1859, Agnes b 1862, Elizabeth b 1865, Robert b 1868. Robert may of been an illegitimate child of daughter.

Gilbert's grandparents were Mathew McClung and Margaret Osborn. The only information I have of them is a marriage abt 1833 Ballantrae, Ayr, Scotland and a daughter Jean McClung b 13 Jan 1834 Ballantrae, AYR. Information I received long ago has Samuel McClung b 1820/1 Colmoneth AYR. Samuel's b doesn't seem to tie in.

I have joined the Maybole, AYR surname list in hope of finding more McClung's still there that may be able to help as there seems to be quite a few in that area still. We were always told by family that a lot emigrated to the US. On the map of AYR all the towns I have mentioned are within about 10 miles of each other.

Hope you can follow my writing, look forward to hearing from you,

Regards
Gail Hammond: (email?)
NZ
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Amick:

I'm trying to gather information about the Amick family in Nicholas Co. WV. I have seen the McClung surname many times while I've been searching records, and I thought perhaps you might have some info that could help me with my research. I'm looking for anything about a William Guy Amick. His wife is Lydia Hazel Slater Amick. Her family is from the Sissonville area. Guy lived in Powellton in 1950. His father 's name is Frank Amick, and his wife's name is Stella. I think they were from a town named Livingston. Frank's father's name is Samuel, and was from the Runa area. Any information about him or any other Amicks would be gratefully appreciated. My email address is [email protected]
Thanks,
Carl Amick

Can someone from the Greenbrier branch help out with this? I know we have numerous Amick descendants.

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Berones McClung was living in a household of a William McClung with her husband James Golden do these names have any value as they are my line from Union Co. OH thank you rebecca ([email protected]) Note: this was not an 1880 family.

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Membership:

We are receiving email addresses nearly every day for new members. It may be that we will miss someone on a send. So it seems a good idea to post the previous newsletters and each subsequent one so that new people can find them on the site and relieve us of the job of trying to keep up with who has what. Also: you should go to this site to see if you have the latest newsletter. If not, please contact Dave McClung = [email protected] to have your name added to his list.

We have spent so much time putting together the membership list that we have not had time to put the newsletter together. We are hoping that we haven't overlooked your updates to the family listings. Please make sure we have posted your information. There are so many emails coming in that it is easy to forget to post the changes.


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