Ancestors of Amy Russell Tolbert

Ancestors of Amy Russell Tolbert



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Emund II "The Old" Olafson King Of Sweden




Husband Emund II "The Old" Olafson King Of Sweden 1 2

            AKA: Edmund II "The Old" Olafson King Of Sweden
           Born: 1003 - Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden
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         Father: Olaf III Eriksson King Of , King of Sweden (Abt 0969-Abt 1022) 1 3 4
         Mother: Astrid of Obotrites (Abt 0979-      ) 1 3


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Hugh Swynford and Katherine Swynford (nee Roet)




Husband Hugh Swynford

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       Marriage: Abt 1366 - St. Clement Danes Church, The Strand, London, Middlesex, England




Wife Katherine Swynford (nee Roet)

           Born: 25 Nov 1350
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           Died: 10 May 1403
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         Father: Payne de Roet/Rouet (      -      )
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   Other Spouse: John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) - 13 Jan 1396 - Lincoln Cathedral



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Flavius Afranius Syagrius, Consul




Husband Flavius Afranius Syagrius, Consul

           Born: Abt 345
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         Buried:  - Lugdunum (now Lyon, France)
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Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation, Roman politician and administrator

He became proconsul of Africa in 379, praefectus Urbis Romae in 381, praefectus praetorio Italiae in 382 and was consul with Flavius Claudius Antonius in 382.




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1 F Syagria

           Born: Abt 390
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         Spouse: Ferreolus of Rome (Gallo) (Abt 0390-      )




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Waldelf Tailboys




Husband Waldelf Tailboys

           Born:  - Hepple, Northumberland, Eng
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           Died: 1161
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         Father: Ivo (Ives) De Taillebois, Earl Anjou/1St Baron Kend (Abt 1036-1094)
         Mother: Judith of Lens (1054-1086)


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Ives (Ivo) De Taillebois, 1st Baron Of Kendal




Husband Ives (Ivo) De Taillebois, 1st Baron Of Kendal 1 5 6 7

            AKA: Ivo Tailboys
           Born: Abt 1036 - Cristot, Calvados, Normandy, France 8
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           Died: 1094 - Kendal, Cambria, England 9
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         Father: Geoffroy II "Ferreol" Count Of Gatinais, Count of the Gatinais (Abt 1000-1046) 1 10
         Mother: Ermengarde D' Anjou (1018-1076) 1 11


       Marriage: After 1076 - 2ND Husband




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General Notes: Husband - Ives (Ivo) De Taillebois, 1st Baron Of Kendal

Came with William the Conqueror. In 1092 (shortly before his death) William II Rufus drove the Scots from the Lake District and gave Kendal to Ivo de Taillebois, whose descendants maintained an interest in the town until the nineteenth century.

No published source that I have gives parents for Ives/Ivo. World Connect/rootsweb was the source of Gatinais/Anjou as parents, and I have seen references in soc.genealogy.medieval as "of Anjou" which fits with his mother. The book "Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families" does give a reliable account of his origins in Cristot, Calvados,Normandy, although that is not where he was necessarily born, and he may have held other lands than just Cristot.

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The following concerns Ivo's origins in Normandy, prior to the conquest:

Taillebois.

Cristot: Calvados, arr. Caen, cant. Tily-sur-Seulles.

A note in the cartulary of La Trinite de Vendome mentions a copy of the grant of the church and patronage of Cristot by Ives Taillebois to the abbey. An account of Cristot is given in Beziers, "Diocese de Bayeux, vol ii, p. 192. [Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families]

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The following is a post to SGM, 22 Oct 2001, by Rosie Bevan (gives details of Ivo's claim to Kendal):

From: Rosie Bevan (cbevan AT paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Taillebois [was Gundred de Warenne, Countess of Warwick)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-10-22 17:57:13 PST

Hi Todd

Yes, I agree in the normal course of events, it was very unusual for a Norman to name a son by an English name. On the face of it, this family appears to have been a mix of Norman, Saxon and Scandinavian and blood. The barony of Kendal was granted to Ivo de Taillebois, who died about 1089, by William Rufus and during the reign of Henry I it passed to Ketel son of Eldred, lord of Workington. Ketel was followed by his son Gilbert and Gilbert by his son William of Lancaster. Dugdale in Monasticon [v.5, p.249] claims that William was called Taillebois and by permission from the king (Henry II) changed his name to Lancaster. [Sanders p.56]. Why he would need permission, I'm not sure. Ketel also had a son Orm which I think is also a Scandinavian name. I think it is important to remember that this was at the northern tip of the Norman empire in England where Norman influence and culture was not initially quite so important locally and the north of England has always had a different culture and perspective from the south. Cumberland was not even covered in the Domesday Book.

Whether there is a genetic link between Ivo de Taillebois and Eldred is not absolutely clear but for Eldred to have been born to Ivo, he (Ivo) would have had to have married a very high status Saxon lady (his marriage to Countess Lucy was evidently contracted late in life). For Eldred to have had a son with a Norwegian name he would have had to have married a high status Norwegian lady. Ketel appears to have maried a Norman lady although Orm, Ketel's son, was reputedly married to Gunnild da. of Gospatric and granddaughter of Harold II. I am no expert on this period (and it probably shows) so would appreciate informed comment from someone who has studied
this line.

Cheers

Rosie

Note: I at one time had Eldred as son of Ivo de Taillebois, but have subsequently changed it based on later information to his son Ketel (Chetell) marrying a daughter of Ivo, thus explaining the relationship.

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The following information on Ivo was supplied in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com:

Not much to hang your hat on, but...

Ivo de Talboys. Also called 'cut-bush'. Married Lucy. In charge of siege of Hereward the Wake at Ely, 1069. Steward to William II. Holdings in Lincs. and Norfolk.
[Ref: Domesday Online: http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/index.html]

The Lancasters are said to be descendants of Ivo de Taillebois and as William was governor of Lancaster Castle assumed the name accordingly. [Stemma Ivonis de Tayleboyse (ex registro S. Mar Ebor New Monast iii 553) Ivo is stated to have had issue Elthred, the father of Ketel, the father of Gilbert, father of Wm of Lancaster who married Gundreda Countess of Warwick. Ketellus filius Elredi was donor of various property to the Abbey of St Mary, York. [Ref: Rosie Bevan 21 Oct 2001 citing The Topographer and Genealogist 1846 p15] note: "is stated" is usually a subtle reference to a difference of opinion amongst scholars... Curt

Regards,
Curt
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Ives (Ivo) De Taillebois, 1st Baron Of Kendal




Husband Ives (Ivo) De Taillebois, 1st Baron Of Kendal 1 5 6 7

            AKA: Ivo Tailboys
           Born: Abt 1036 - Cristot, Calvados, Normandy, France 8
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           Died: 1094 - Kendal, Cambria, England 9
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         Father: Geoffroy II "Ferreol" Count Of Gatinais, Count of the Gatinais (Abt 1000-1046) 1 10
         Mother: Ermengarde D' Anjou (1018-1076) 1 11


       Marriage: After 1086 - 1st Husband 2ND Wife 12




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General Notes: Husband - Ives (Ivo) De Taillebois, 1st Baron Of Kendal

Came with William the Conqueror. In 1092 (shortly before his death) William II Rufus drove the Scots from the Lake District and gave Kendal to Ivo de Taillebois, whose descendants maintained an interest in the town until the nineteenth century.

No published source that I have gives parents for Ives/Ivo. World Connect/rootsweb was the source of Gatinais/Anjou as parents, and I have seen references in soc.genealogy.medieval as "of Anjou" which fits with his mother. The book "Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families" does give a reliable account of his origins in Cristot, Calvados,Normandy, although that is not where he was necessarily born, and he may have held other lands than just Cristot.

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The following concerns Ivo's origins in Normandy, prior to the conquest:

Taillebois.

Cristot: Calvados, arr. Caen, cant. Tily-sur-Seulles.

A note in the cartulary of La Trinite de Vendome mentions a copy of the grant of the church and patronage of Cristot by Ives Taillebois to the abbey. An account of Cristot is given in Beziers, "Diocese de Bayeux, vol ii, p. 192. [Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families]

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The following is a post to SGM, 22 Oct 2001, by Rosie Bevan (gives details of Ivo's claim to Kendal):

From: Rosie Bevan (cbevan AT paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Taillebois [was Gundred de Warenne, Countess of Warwick)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-10-22 17:57:13 PST

Hi Todd

Yes, I agree in the normal course of events, it was very unusual for a Norman to name a son by an English name. On the face of it, this family appears to have been a mix of Norman, Saxon and Scandinavian and blood. The barony of Kendal was granted to Ivo de Taillebois, who died about 1089, by William Rufus and during the reign of Henry I it passed to Ketel son of Eldred, lord of Workington. Ketel was followed by his son Gilbert and Gilbert by his son William of Lancaster. Dugdale in Monasticon [v.5, p.249] claims that William was called Taillebois and by permission from the king (Henry II) changed his name to Lancaster. [Sanders p.56]. Why he would need permission, I'm not sure. Ketel also had a son Orm which I think is also a Scandinavian name. I think it is important to remember that this was at the northern tip of the Norman empire in England where Norman influence and culture was not initially quite so important locally and the north of England has always had a different culture and perspective from the south. Cumberland was not even covered in the Domesday Book.

Whether there is a genetic link between Ivo de Taillebois and Eldred is not absolutely clear but for Eldred to have been born to Ivo, he (Ivo) would have had to have married a very high status Saxon lady (his marriage to Countess Lucy was evidently contracted late in life). For Eldred to have had a son with a Norwegian name he would have had to have married a high status Norwegian lady. Ketel appears to have maried a Norman lady although Orm, Ketel's son, was reputedly married to Gunnild da. of Gospatric and granddaughter of Harold II. I am no expert on this period (and it probably shows) so would appreciate informed comment from someone who has studied
this line.

Cheers

Rosie

Note: I at one time had Eldred as son of Ivo de Taillebois, but have subsequently changed it based on later information to his son Ketel (Chetell) marrying a daughter of Ivo, thus explaining the relationship.

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The following information on Ivo was supplied in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com:

Not much to hang your hat on, but...

Ivo de Talboys. Also called 'cut-bush'. Married Lucy. In charge of siege of Hereward the Wake at Ely, 1069. Steward to William II. Holdings in Lincs. and Norfolk.
[Ref: Domesday Online: http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/index.html]

The Lancasters are said to be descendants of Ivo de Taillebois and as William was governor of Lancaster Castle assumed the name accordingly. [Stemma Ivonis de Tayleboyse (ex registro S. Mar Ebor New Monast iii 553) Ivo is stated to have had issue Elthred, the father of Ketel, the father of Gilbert, father of Wm of Lancaster who married Gundreda Countess of Warwick. Ketellus filius Elredi was donor of various property to the Abbey of St Mary, York. [Ref: Rosie Bevan 21 Oct 2001 citing The Topographer and Genealogist 1846 p15] note: "is stated" is usually a subtle reference to a difference of opinion amongst scholars... Curt

Regards,
Curt
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Ivo (Ives) De Taillebois, Earl Anjou/1St Baron Kend




Husband Ivo (Ives) De Taillebois, Earl Anjou/1St Baron Kend

           Born: Abt 1036 - Cristot, Calvados, Normandy, Fr
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           Died: 1094 - Kendal, Cambria, Eng
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            AFN: V9TX-XR
       Marriage:  - 1st Husband 13

   Other Spouse: Judith of Lens (1054-1086) - After 1076 - 2ND Husband




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General Notes: Husband - Ivo (Ives) De Taillebois, Earl Anjou/1St Baron Kend

CONFLICT: Thomas Thomson Progenitor Circle by Rupert Farham Thompson, 1977, Sutro, CA (state s he is father of Lucy) Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England betwee n 1623 and 1650, Frederick Lewis Weis, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1985 (states Lucy i s his widow) Ancestral File 4.10 (Edna Anderson show him as father of Lucy)Came with Willi am the Conqueror.Alternate name found in file: Ivo Tailboys

Came with William the Conqueror.

No source that I have gives parents for Ives/Ivo.
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The following concerns Ives origins in Normandy, prior to the conquest:

Taillebois.

Cristot: Calvados, arr. Caen, cant. Tily-sur-Seulles.

A note in the cartulary of La Trinite de Vendome mentions a copy of the grant of the church a nd patronage of Cristot by Ives Taillebois to the abbey. An account of Cristot is given in B eziers, "Diocese de Bayeux, vol ii, p. 192. [Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families]

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Wulgrim III Taillfer




Husband Wulgrim III Taillfer

           Born: Abt 1144 - Angoulême, , Poitou-Charentes, France
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           Died: 29 Jun 1181
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1 F Matilde Taillfer

           Born: Abt 1170 - Angoulême, , Poitou-Charentes, France
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           Died: 1233
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         Spouse: Hugh IX de Lusignan (1163-1219)




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Living and Living




Husband Living (details have been suppressed)

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         Father: Milton Lawrence Talbert (1889-1966)
         Mother: Anna Mable Hayes (1895-      )


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   Other Spouse: Living




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James Talbert




Husband James Talbert

           Born: 1737 - Spotsylvania, Virginia, USA
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           Died: 1770 - St.Matthews, Orange, North Carolina, USA
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         Father: Sr. John Talbert (1711-1794)
         Mother: Margaret Peel (?) (1713-      )


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1 M Thomas Rawlings Talbert

           Born: 1774 - , Orange, North Carolina, USA
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           Died: 1844 - , Bedford, Tennessee, USA
         Buried: 1844 - Talbert Hollow, Cannon Co., Tennessee(unconfirmed)
         Spouse: Nancy Hendley (Henley) (1774-1845)
           Marr: 31 Jul 1794 - , Person, North Carolina, USA



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Sources


1 Jim Weber (https://myaccount.rootsweb.com/publicprofile?mn=jimweber110&kurl=http:%2F%2Fwc%2Erootsweb%2Eancestry%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Figm%2Ecgi%3Fdb%3Djweber%26id%3DI03403%26op%3DGED).

2 Royal Families of Medieval Scandinavia, Flanders, and Kiev, by Rupert Alen & Anna Dahlquist, 1997, King's River Publ, 194 - chart 26.

3 Knox, Robert John Anderson and Tanner, Danielle. AOL user BobNDani. Fileuploaded on AOL "Tanner/Courtenay/Larsson/9500+" on Feb 2, 1995. File Name: knox0001.ged wsx.

4 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 53-22.

5 The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 95.

6 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 132a-26, 246b-25.

7 The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, by Lewis C Loyd, 1999, 100.

8 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Susan Shannon, 24 Jun 1996.

9 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, BarBara J. Fricke, 29 Mar 1998.

10 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 118-22.

11 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 108-22, 118-22.

12 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 246b-25.

13 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr, 246b-25.


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