Henry Chambers Saylor of Sidney Tp
b. abt. 1795 in New Jersey
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1. OVERVIEW Back in the 1980's, Peter Johnson, well known Loyalist expert and friend, had Saylor ancestors with names that I did not recognize. It took a few years but eventually we discovered that there were three Saylor pioneers who settled in the Quinte area. Two of them, Charles Saylor and his sister Lavina, settled near Bloomfield, Prince Edward County. The third, and new discovery, was Henry Chambers Saylor who settled on Lot 4, Con 1, Sidney Township purchasing the lot in 1821 from his father-in-law, Reuben White. Charles (1786), Lavina (1790) and Henry Chambers (1795) were all born in New Jersey and this makes one wonder if they are connected. Henry Chambers Saylor, listed variously as a carriage maker, waggonmaker, wheelwright and also as a yeoman, married Phoebe White, daughter of Reuben White, sometime before their first child in 1821 One of the daughters, Esther Saylor, married George Emery Meyers and she is the mother of my grandmother. Coincidentally I descend from both Charles Saylor, from whom I get my surname, and Henry Chambers Saylor on a maternal side. Peter Johnson descends from Caroline Saylor, another daughter of Henry C. and Phoebe Saylor. In a family Bible in my possession there is loose page torn from another Bible listing the children and birth dates of the children of this couple (picture above). This is the only known record of their birth dates. Henry C Saylor was not a loyalist, he never petitioned for land and would be considered a settler. How or why he came to Upper Canada is not known. He is not mentioned in Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte. The earliest record of him in Upper Canada, found so far, is the January 1819 militia list shown below. At that time he is shown as residing on Lot 13, Con 1 in Sidney and in 1821 he buys 10 acres on Lot 4 where he and Phoebe spend their adult life together. In 1815, Reuben White bought the whole of Lot 13 and in 1819 Henry C Saylor and a number of other young men, named on the militia list, are living on the lot. Perhaps they were tenants. The fact that Henry married Phoebe, Reuben's daughter, connects this picture. It is not known when or where Henry C Saylor died. He is not recorded as buried in White's Cemetery. Considerable effort has been made to find his burial location but no cemetery record or stone or obituary has been found. It is possible he was buried beside his wife but that the marker was lost, made of wood or maybe never even made. He was mentioned in Phoebe's 1866 will and so is assumed to have outlived her and thus died after 1866. Perhaps one of his children moved away and he lived his last years with them away from the area. Peter Johnson reports that there are statements on the internet that he died 7 Feb 1872 but no citations are recorded. This is questionable since he is not found in the 1871 census under Saylor, Taylor and Faylor and the equivalents. |
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| 2. Children of Henry Chambers Saylor and Phoebe White 1. HENRY CHAMBERS SAYLOR was born Abt. 1795 in New Jersey.1. He married PHOEBE WHITE Abt. 1819, daughter of REUBEN WHITE and ESTHER MARSH. She was born May 1803, and died February 07, 1867 in Sidney Twsp, Hastings Co. Ont.. Children of HENRY SAYLOR and PHOEBE WHITE are: 2. i. CHARLES MALLORY2 SAYLOR, b. 12 March 1821, Sidney Tp.; d. 1881. ii. HENRY CHAMPLAIN SAYLOR, b. 3 May 1823; m. SARAH HUTCHINSON, 30 April 1864, Kingston, ON. 3. iii. CAROLINE ADELIA SAYLOR, b. 17 July 1826, Sidney Twsp, Hastings Co. Ont.; d. 10 April 1890, Sidney Twsp, Hastings Co. Ont.. 4. iv. ESTHER ANN W. SAYLOR, b. 17 August 1828, Sidney Twp., Hastings Co., ON; d. 21 December 1880, Sidney Twp., Hastings Co., ON. 5. v. WILLIAM MERRELL SAYLOR, b. 17 December 1831. vi. ELIZABETH Z SAYLOR, b. 15 June 1834; m. MATTHEW MILLS, 29 September 1864, Sidney Twsp.; b. Abt. 1833. vii. REUBEN S SAYLOR, b. 30 November 1836. viii. PERLINA MARGARET SAYLOR, b. 13 November 1839; m. ALBERT E LOBB. ix. SARAH ANN SAYLOR, b. 7 February 1841; d. 9 June 1861, Whites Cemetery, Row 8. x. EMMA SAYLOR, b. 20 March 1844; m. THOMAS D WELLER; b. April 1845; d. 6 March 1868. |
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3. SOURCE NOTES BIRTH
LOT 4, CON 4 SIDNEY Patent, 9 Mar 1808, Crown to Leonard Soper, 200 acres A2360, B&S, 8 Jun 1831, reg 19 Nov 1833, Leonard Soper to Henry C Saylor, all a52, B&S, 13 Feb 1833, reg - , Henry Chambers Saylor to Reuben White, all B940, Will, 17 Jun 1856, reg 13 Jan 1858, Reuben White to Phebe Saylor, 150, E 1/2 rear, front 1/2 C388, Grant, 4 Apr 1857, reg 6 Mar 1865, Reuben White to Charles Mllory Saylor, 50 NW 1/4 C389, Mort, 6 Mar 1862, reg 7 Mar 1862, Charles Mallory Saylor from Adam Hubbs Saylor, 50, $250, NW 1/4 Source: Abstract Index, Sidney Tp, GSU 197974 LOT 4, CON 1, BROKEN FRONT SIDNEY Henry purchased part of lot 4 from his wife's maternal grandfather, Mathias Marsh, on Jan. 4, 1821, 10.5 acres, East half of Lot. 4, Broken Front Conc. 1, Sidney for £107 & 10 shillings. It was registered June 5, 1832. This lot extends from the road (Hwy 2 today) south to the Bay of Quinte. "Between Mathias Marsh Esquire, Township of Sidney ... Henry C. Sailor, wheelwright of the said township" Source: Hastings County land book M, AO, Book M, #1955, p. 273, reel GS 4200 LOT 4, CON 4 SIDNEY Patent, 9 Mar 1808, Crown to Leonard Soper, 200 acres A2360, B&S, 8 Jun 1831, reg 19 Nov 1833, Leonard Soper to Henry C Saylor, all a52, B&S, 13 Feb 1833, reg - , Henry Chambers Saylor to Reuben White, all B940, Will, 17 Jun 1856, reg 13 Jan 1858, Reuben White to Phebe Saylor, 150, E 1/2 rear, front 1/2 C388, Grant, 4 Apr 1857, reg 6 Mar 1865, Reuben White to Charles Mllory Saylor, 50 NW 1/4 C389, Mort, 6 Mar 1862, reg 7 Mar 1862, Charles Mallory Saylor from Adam Hubbs Saylor, 50, $250, NW 1/4 Source: Abstract Index, Sidney Tp, GSU 197974 On 8 June 1831 Leonard Soper of Hope Tp., Newcastle District, yeoman, sells to Henry C Saylor, Sidney, wheelwright for 175 pounds, Lot 4, Conc 4, Sidney. Witnesses Reuben White, Sidney, ESQ, and James W Barber, Hope, schoolmaster. Reg 19 Nov 1833. On 13 Feb 1833, Henry Chambers Saylor sells the whole lot to Reuben White and Reuben wills 150 acres to his daughter Phoebe Saylor and 50 acres, NW 1/4, to his grandson, Charles Mallory Saylor.Charles gets a mortgage on the lot from Adam Hubbs Saylor which he discharges Source: Hastings County Deeds, Sidney, AO, GSU 197909, N2360 Henry sold land to his father-in-law, Reuben White, stating his full name as Henry Chambers Saylor; Lot 4, Con 4, Feb. 13, 1835. "Henry Chambers Saylor, wheelwright of the township of Sidney ... Reuben White of the same township" SOURCE: AO, GS 4272, No. 52. SIDNEY TOWNSHIP MINUTE BOOK 5 Jan 1824, Henry Sailor, Overseer, Concession 1 4 Jan 1830, Henry C Saylor, Road Master, Con 1, Div 1 1 Jan 1844, Henry Saylor, Overseer, Con 1, Div 1 Source: Sidney Township Minute Book, pages 43, 55, 102 1819 MILITIA ROLLS 18 Jan 1819, Roll of Jacob W Meyers, 1st Reg"t Hastings Henry C Salor, age 23, lot 13, Con 1 [Sidney] 18 May 1819, Sidney, Roll of Capt Jacob W Meyers, 1st Reg't Hastings, Henry C Salor, age 23 SOURCE: William Bell Papers, AO, M-211, 1549-50, 1556-7. 1825 MILITIA ROLL 8 Oct 1825, Roll of Captain H[enry] Hagerman's Company, 1st Reg't Hastings Henry Sailor, age 29, Sidney Tp., Lot 4, Concession 1 SOURCE: William Bell Papers, AO, M-211, 1855. See also transcription Early Militia Lists of Hastings County 1799-1826, Don Kellaway, 1994, OGS PETITIONS Henry signed these two petitions in support of various causes. Click on the link to see the transcriptions.
1851 CENSUS The 1851 Census states that Henry C Saylor is a carriage maker, born in the United States, religion is E. Me., and he is 56 years old. His wife Phebe is listed as born in C.W. (Canada West) and is 49. Their children are listed as: Champlain, farmer, 29; William, black smith 21; Esther, 24; Elizabeth, 13; Perlina, 14; Sarah, 11; Emily, 8. SOURCE: AO, reel C11727, page 104 1861 CENSUS Henry C Saylor, yeoman, b New Jersey, EM, 66, frame house, 1.5 stories Phoebe, b UC, 57, EM (all), Frame 1 1/2 stories Champlin, b UC, 38 Elizabeth, 26 Perlina, 22 Sarah A, 20 Emma, 17 Source: 1861 Census, Sidney, En Dist 3, p 50-51, AO, C-1033 CHILDREN A torn page from a Bible contains the birth dates of the children of Henry and Phoebe White - shown at the top of this page. It is the only known source of this information. It is in the possession of Randy Saylor. DIRECTORY Saylor, Henry, waggonmaker, 1st concession, broken front, lot 4. Source: Directory of the County of Hastings, 1864-65, p. 335, possession of WRS. |
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4. The
will of Phoebe White , (August
9, 1866 Signed George E Meyers, Caroline A Blair,
Peter Begg, Phoebe Saylor. Source: AO, reel GS 4278, Deed Book F, #11, AO, film GS 4278 |
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| 5. Y-DNA Is Henry Chambers Saylor related to Charles Saylor of Bloomfield? Henry was born abt 1795 in NJ and Charles was born in 1786 in NJ as well. They both settled in the general area about the same time. The Saylor line in the Pioneer Life of the Bay of Quinte is the Charles line from Bloomfield. These two lines have caused difficulty for those trying to identify the Saylor lineage. There is no evidence to show that these two pioneers are related. If a Saylor male descendant of Henry Saylor had his Y-DNA done it could be compared with the known Y-DNA profile of Charles Saylor. Y-DNA tests have been done for two paternal descendants of Charles Saylor, youngest son of Samuel Sayler. The results are posted on the Saylor DNA project web site. Take note of these two tests on the above web site. Group 3 - 100884 - Descendant of Charles Saylor b. 1786 via son William Saylor b. 1823 Group 3 - 154198 - Descendant of Charles Saylor b. 1786 via son John Saylor b. 1821 Test 110884 and 154198 match 36/37 and indicate a very recent paternal common ancestor. Both men who were tested are 5 generations from Charles Saylor so we can say conclusively that the common ancestor is Charles Saylor. It can also be said that their results identify the Y-DNA of Samuel Sayler, the father of Charles Saylor. Note that these compare closely with other Saylor tests (groups 3 and 4) a few of whom know they came from Binninngen or Bottmingen, Switzerland. Both of these are today suburbs of Basel, Switzerland. Given these close results it can also be concluded that the Saylor ancestors of Charles Saylor came from in and around Basel, Switzerland. It would be wonderful if a male descendant of Henry Chambers Saylor would come forward and be tested. |
