Husband Humphrey Stafford
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Wife Margaret Fogge
Born:
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Father: Sir John Fogge (Abt 1417-1490)
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Children
1 M William Stafford
Born: Abt 1500 - Blatherwycke, Northamptonshire, England
Christened:
Died: 5 May 1556 - Geneva, , Genève, Switzerland
Buried:
Spouse: Dorothy Stafford ( -1604)
Marr: Abt 1544
Spouse: Mary Boleyn (Abt 1449-1543)
Marr: 1534
Husband Adalbert III Count Longwy, Duke Upper Lorraine 1 2 3
Born: Abt 1012 - Longwy, Meurthe-Et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Christened:
Died: 1048 2
Buried:
Father: Gerhard II Count Of Metz (Abt 0988- ) 1 3
Mother: Gisella Of Alsace (Abt 0990-1045) 1 3
Marriage:
Wife Clemence De Foix 1 2
Born: Abt 1015 - Foix, Ariege, Midi-Pyreneees, France
Christened:
Died:
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Father: Bernard-Rodger Seigneur De Foix, Count Bigorre (Abt 0974-1036) 1 2 4
Mother: Gersinde Countess De Bigorre (Abt 0977-Bef 1033) 1
Children
1 F Ermesinde De Longwy 1 5
Born: Abt 1033 - Longwy, Meurthe-Et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Christened:
Died: After 1058 - Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France 6
Buried:
2 F Stephanie (Etiennette) De Longwy 1 2 7 8
Born: Abt 1035 - Longwy, Meurthe-Et-Moselle, Lorraine, France 2
Christened:
Died: 30 Jun 1109
Buried:
Spouse: William I "The Great" Count Of Macon & Burgundy (Abt 1024-1087) 1 9 10
Marr: Bef 1060
General Notes: Wife - Clemence De Foix
In a post to soc.genealogy.medieval, Todd Farmerie reports that Clemence Foix does not even exist. I am keeping her as a place holder until further research indicates a possible replacement. @@check ancestry.
From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie AT interfold.com)
Subject: Etiennette of Longwy - NOT!!!!
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-04-25 23:30:18 PST
I just got in the mail the latest publication of the Unit for Prosopographical Research - Prosopographica et Genealogica, vol.3, Onomastioque et Parente dans l'Occident medieval, K. S. B. Keats-Rohan and C. Settipani, eds. (2000). I have not had a chance to read beyond the first couple of articles, but even the first one will be of interest to many in this group. Szabolcs de Vajay here contributes a reevaluation of his elegant work on Etiennette/Estefania/Stephanie, wife of William, Count of Burgundy.
In a 1960 article appearing in Annales de Bourgogne, he evaluated the surviving sources, and focussed particularly on two contemporary ones that appeared to illuminate the question. One of these indicated that Pope Callixte (son of Etiennette) was of mixed parentage, one parent being Burgundian, and the other from Lorraine. The second source mentioned a Countess Ermesende of Longwy - taken to be the mother of Clemence, Countess of Luxembourg, and wife of William VII of Aquitaine. Vajay was led to conclude that these two women, apparently both of Lorraine but with Mediteranean names, represented a single family group. At about this time Longwy was held by an Adelbert, identified with the Duke of Lorraine, who was then tapped as father. At the same time, the names Ermesende and Etiennette appeared in the family of Bernard Roger, Count of Foix (another sibling was Raimond, a name which Etiennette of Burgundy would give a son), so the mother of the Lorraine Ermesende and Etiennette was hypothesized as another sibling in this family, provisionally named Clemence (the name of daughters of both Ermesende and Etiennette). Thus the question has stood for four decades (with only a few historians dissenting). (Thus it has likewise appeared in secondary sources which failed to indicate the hypothetical nature of the solution, from which it has entered innumerable personal and public databases.)
In his new analysis, entitled "Parlons encore d'Etiennette" (pp. 2-6), Vajay goes through his previous proof, and step by step he destroys it.
The first source, describing the parentage of Callixte, is now known not to refer to the son of Etiennette, but to her grandson of the same name, who was son of Louis of Montbeliard and Ermesende of Burgundy - parentage that matches his described mixed origins. The other source can now be shown to refer not to the mother of Clemence Countess of Luxembourg, but to her daughter Ermesende who married Adelbert de Dabo - the Adelbert of Longwy mistakenly associated with the Duke of Lorraine. Taken together, there is no longer any support for a connection with Lorraine (and no reason to think that Duke Adelbert married or had any issue at all). More critically, it becomes clear that with these two pieces of evidence removed from relevance, there is no contemporary source that bears dierctly on the question.
One recent author, A. Beau, approached the question by returning to the work of Pere Anselme, who wrote that Etiennette was daughter of Raimond II of Barcelona and his wife Sancha of Navarre. With minor modifications, this possibility is attractive. The man Anselme appears to have had in mind was Count Berenger I Raimond II, who married Sancha Sanchez of Castile. This Berenger is now thought to have had a sister Etiennette (for whom he might have named a daughter), while in his fourth wife (who Beau would make mother of our Etiennette) we have Guisla of Lluca, for whom Etiennette would have named her daughter Gisela, and this solution would also explain the use of Raimond.
Vajay is, however, not entirely enthusiastic about this solution. First of all, Beau's reasoning that Anselme's account was likely based on an accurate tradition/source is belied by the fact that Beau then gives her a father Berenger and mother Guisla (with Berenger's first wife, Sancha, being from Castile), while Anselme had named them Raimond and Sancha of Navarre. Likewise, this solution fails to explain the appearance of the name Clemence (unknown among the Barcelona Counts, although Guisla's ancestry is not fully characterized), while finally, there is the problem of the relationship between Henry, Count of Portugal and Raimond, Count of Galicia (Etiennette's son).
The word "congermanus" is used to describe the relationship between Henry and Raymond. This word is usually used to refer to what we would now call second cousins or even more distant relations, the children (or descendants) of first cousins. By Vajay's old solution, this would be the case, both being grandchildren's-grandchildren of Count Roger of Carcassonne, with Henry's mother postulated as daughter of Berenger and Guisla. Moving Raimond's mother to the same family renders the two Counts first cousins, which is too close. (Vajay would now instead place Henry's mother as sister of Berenger, but the problem remains.) This can not be simply dismissed by suggesting that "congermanus" is being used somewhat atypically here to refer to first cousins, since Raimond's sister Sybil married Henry's brother Eudes and a marriage of first cousins (? once removed) certainly would have been considered too close. In light of this, Vajay tends to dismiss this solution as well.
He concludes by stating that the fate of his earlier theory should serve as a warning about the uncertain nature of such arguments based more on onomastics and hypothesis than direct proof. This is perhaps a good warning with which to start this book, as the articles that follow derive from a group of researchers that uses just such methods to reconstruct relationships among family groups.
Husband Pierre-Bernard Comte De Foix 1
Born: Abt 1012 - Carcassonne, Aude, Languedoc, France
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Died: 1038 - Foix, Ariege, Midi-Pyreneees, France
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Father: Bernard-Rodger Seigneur De Foix, Count Bigorre (Abt 0974-1036) 1 2 4
Mother: Gersinde Countess De Bigorre (Abt 0977-Bef 1033) 1
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Husband Arthur Forbes
Born: 1746 - , North Carolina
Christened:
Died: Apr 1781 - Greensboro, Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Buried: - Alamance Presbyterian Church, Guilford, Orange, North Carolina, USA 11
Father: William Forbes ( -1763)
Mother: Margaret Bryan ( - )
Marriage: 1771 - Guilford, Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Noted events in his life were:
• Military Service, Served as a Colonel in the Revolutionary War. Was killed in battle in North Carolina
Wife Elizabeth Wiley
AKA: Carruth
Born: 1748 - Guilford, Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Christened:
Died: 1835 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Buried:
Father: Thomas Wiley (Abt 1750-Abt 1812)
Mother:
Other Spouse: John Forbes (1738-1819) - 1786 - Guilford, Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Noted events in her life were:
• Census 12, 1830 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Children
General Notes: Husband - Arthur Forbes
I have info on Col Arthur Forbis m.1771 to Eliz. Wiley whos first name may be Nancy.
There is a monument to him at the Guilford Co Courthouse in NC where he died during war.Children- John, Arthur, Ann, Elizabeth,Mary and Matilda or Marthy. dApr 1781. Do you have anything else on this family?
I have some info on John Forbis(es) of NC. I have him as a major in Rev war. His brother was Col. Arthur Forbis who died in war. John m. Arthurs widow Eliz. Wiley in 1786. Does this help? Love to hear any info you have!
Will probated Aug 1781
At the battle of Guilford Court House, another elder, Capt. Arthur Forbis (called Col. Forbis because he commanded a regiment that day) and a company from his neighborhood, including Allisons, Kerrs, Paisleys and Wileys, were placed in the front rank. While other militia companies ignominiously broke and fled, these men bravely held their position, fired two volleys according to commands, and retired in good order, leaving a great many British dead on the field. Capt. Forbis fell mortally wounded, and a tall marble monument was erected to his honor in Alamance cemetery in 1860. A HISTORY OF ALAMANCE CHURCH, 1762-1918 BY REV. E. C. MURRAY, D.D.
General Notes: Wife - Elizabeth Wiley
The following information is quoted directly from Guilford County, N.C. - A Map Supplement, by Fred Hughes; published by The Custom House of Jamestown, NC, copyright 1988 by The Custom House.
Many people lived in Guilford, for which there are no land reports. Some lived on rented land, some on "public land," in anticipation of purchase, some plainly were squatters. Only six of these people are listed on this map, to show how widespread was this practice. One is Jacob Schumacher (C-6). A strong tradition says that a Shoemaker lived adjoining Friedan's Church; that he and the church shared a common spring; that the first name of the church was Shoemaker's Church; that Shoemaker was a Tory; that at the battle of Guilford Court House he killed Arthur Forbes; that Shoemaker's Whig neighbors captured him in the church yard and killed him there; that he was carried to his grave on the church door.
At least part of this tradition is borne out by the records. In 1780 and 1781, Jacob Schumacher was listed as a chain carrier on land grant surveys in the neighborhood of Friedan's Church. There are references to "Shoemaker's line." In 1781 after the battle of Guilford Court House, Elisabeth Forbes applied to the state for aid. She was, as widow of Arthur, "allowed 25 barrels of corn for 1782 and 1783, out of specific tax of Guilford County." At the August 1781 term of Court, Arthur Forbes' will was probated. In 1787, Susannah Shoemaker obtained a land grant near Friedan's Church and bought other land later. Susannah did not remarry, and died in 1813. She left twelve legatees - George, Barbry, Caty, Jacob, Coonrod, Susannah, Adam, John, Daniel, Mary, Christian and Elisabeth. Susannah's grant joined two non-owners, Jacob and George Simmerman (Zimmerman), who also served as chain carriers in the community. Guilford land records indicated that it may have been thirty-five years before a Simmerman, or Zimmerman, obtained land - and it was in the Friedan's Church Community.
Husband Andrew Patton
Born: 7 Oct 1800 - North Carolina, USA
Christened:
Died: 12 Feb 1892 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Buried: - Mt. Vernon Cemetery, Statesville, Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Father: John Shupe Patton (1767-1845)
Mother: Mary Thompson (Abt 1769-1846)
Marriage: 23 Dec 1819 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation, Farmer
• Alt. Death, 2 Sep 1888
• Census 13, 1850 - District 15, Wilson, Tennessee, USA
• Census 14, 1860 - District 15, Wilson, Tennessee, USA
• Census 15, 1870 - District 15, Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Wife Elizabeth Forbes
AKA: Elizabeth Firbus
Born: 12 Aug 1800 - North Carolina, USA
Christened:
Died: 5 May 1881 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Buried: - Mt. Vernon Cemetery, Statesville, Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Father: John Forbes (1738-1819)
Mother: Elizabeth Wiley (1748-1835)
Noted events in her life were:
• Alt. Burial, Mt. Vernon Cemetery, near Statesville, Wilson Co., TN
• Alt. Birth, 12 Aug 1800
• Alt. Death, Wilson Co., TN, 5 May 1881
Noted events in their marriage were:
• Alt. Marriage 16, Wilson Co., TN, 23 Dec 1819
Children
1 M James N. Patton
Born: 16 Jan 1821 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
2 F Elizabeth Francina Patton
Born: 22 Jul 1822 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
3 F Mary Thompson Patton
Born: 1 May 1824 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died:
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4 M John Forbes Patton
Born: 7 Dec 1826 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died:
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5 M Arthur M. Patton
Born: 9 Dec 1827 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
6 F Mary Jane Patton
Born: 28 Apr 1829 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died: 31 May 1892 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Buried: - Mt. Vernon Cemetery, Statesville, Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Spouse: Joseph D. Young, Jr. (1823-1883)
Marr: 2 Nov 1832 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA 17
7 M Thomas W. Patton
Born: 18 Oct 1832 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died:
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8 M Andrew M. Patton
Born: 2 Nov 1834 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Christened:
Died:
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9 M Samuel Sloan Patton
Born: 29 Aug 1837 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
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Notes: Marriage
Know all me by their ___ that we Andrew Patton & __(blank)___ are held and firmly bound unto Joseph McM____ Governor of Tennessee and his ____ in office in the sum of ____ hundred & fifty dollars, but to the vow on condition there should no henceafter appear to be any good cause why the said Andrew Patton & Elizabeth Forbes should be joined together as man & wife else to ____ in full forfiture ____ of our hand & seals this 18th December 1819.
Husband John Forbes
Born: 8 Sep 1738 - Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Christened:
Died: 1819 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Buried:
Father: William Forbes ( -1763)
Mother: Margaret Bryan ( - )
Marriage: 1786 - Guilford, Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Noted events in his life were:
• Military Service, Served as a Major in the Revolutionary War
Wife Elizabeth Wiley
AKA: Carruth
Born: 1748 - Guilford, Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Christened:
Died: 1835 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Buried:
Father: Thomas Wiley (Abt 1750-Abt 1812)
Mother:
Other Spouse: Arthur Forbes (1746-1781) - 1771 - Guilford, Guilford, North Carolina, USA
Noted events in her life were:
• Census 12, 1830 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Children
1 F Elizabeth Forbes
AKA: Elizabeth Firbus
Born: 12 Aug 1800 - North Carolina, USA
Christened:
Died: 5 May 1881 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Buried: - Mt. Vernon Cemetery, Statesville, Wilson, Tennessee, USA
Spouse: Andrew Patton (1800-1892)
Marr: 23 Dec 1819 - , Wilson, Tennessee, USA
2 M Arthur Forbes
AKA: Adams
Born: Abt 1798
Christened:
Died:
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3 M Thomas Wiley Forbes
Born:
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Died:
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4 M John Forbes
Born:
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General Notes: Wife - Elizabeth Wiley
The following information is quoted directly from Guilford County, N.C. - A Map Supplement, by Fred Hughes; published by The Custom House of Jamestown, NC, copyright 1988 by The Custom House.
Many people lived in Guilford, for which there are no land reports. Some lived on rented land, some on "public land," in anticipation of purchase, some plainly were squatters. Only six of these people are listed on this map, to show how widespread was this practice. One is Jacob Schumacher (C-6). A strong tradition says that a Shoemaker lived adjoining Friedan's Church; that he and the church shared a common spring; that the first name of the church was Shoemaker's Church; that Shoemaker was a Tory; that at the battle of Guilford Court House he killed Arthur Forbes; that Shoemaker's Whig neighbors captured him in the church yard and killed him there; that he was carried to his grave on the church door.
At least part of this tradition is borne out by the records. In 1780 and 1781, Jacob Schumacher was listed as a chain carrier on land grant surveys in the neighborhood of Friedan's Church. There are references to "Shoemaker's line." In 1781 after the battle of Guilford Court House, Elisabeth Forbes applied to the state for aid. She was, as widow of Arthur, "allowed 25 barrels of corn for 1782 and 1783, out of specific tax of Guilford County." At the August 1781 term of Court, Arthur Forbes' will was probated. In 1787, Susannah Shoemaker obtained a land grant near Friedan's Church and bought other land later. Susannah did not remarry, and died in 1813. She left twelve legatees - George, Barbry, Caty, Jacob, Coonrod, Susannah, Adam, John, Daniel, Mary, Christian and Elisabeth. Susannah's grant joined two non-owners, Jacob and George Simmerman (Zimmerman), who also served as chain carriers in the community. Guilford land records indicated that it may have been thirty-five years before a Simmerman, or Zimmerman, obtained land - and it was in the Friedan's Church Community.
Husband Matthew Kalloch 19
AKA: II
Born: Abt 1768 - St. Georges, Knox, Maine, USA 19 20
Christened:
Died: Between 1820 and 1830 - St. Georges, Knox, Maine, USA 19 21
Buried:
Father: John Kalloch (Abt 1727-After 1799) 19 22
Mother: Isabella Cunningham (Abt 1734-After 1799) 19 21
Marriage: Abt 1790 - Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA 19 23 24
Noted events in his life were:
• Census 19 25 26 27, Lincoln Co., ME, Between 1800 and 1820
Wife Polly Forrest 19 28
Born: Abt 1774 - Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA 19 21
Christened:
Died: Bef 1831 - St. Georges, Knox, Maine, USA 19
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Children
1 F Mary Kalloch 19
AKA: Polly
Born: Abt 1791 19
Christened:
Died: - St. Thomaston, Knox, Maine, USA 19 21
Buried:
Spouse: Francis Haskell (Abt 1786- ) 19 21
Marr: 23 Jan 1817 19 21
2 M Ambrose Kalloch 19
Born: 14 May 1797 - Maine 19 21 29
Christened:
Died: 4 Sep 1882 19 21
Buried:
Spouse: Jane Haskell (1800-1883) 19
Marr: 18 Mar 1824 19 21
3 F Hannah Kalloch 19 21
Born: Abt 1799 19
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4 F Betsey Kalloch 19
Born: Abt 1801 19
Christened:
Died:
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Spouse: Capt. Thomas Haskell (1794- ) 19
Husband Alexander Fortune
Born: WFT Est 1778-1802 - , Albemarle, Virginia, USA
Christened:
Died: After 1820 - , Harrison, Indiana, USA
Buried:
Father: Williamson Fortune (1758-1821)
Mother: Sarah Henderson (WFT Est 1739/1764-WFT Est 1786/1853)
Marriage: 14 Jan 1817 - , Franklin, Virginia, USA
Wife Susannah Kitterman
Born: WFT Est 1773-1800
Christened:
Died: WFT Est 1822-1890
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Children
Husband Benjamin Fortune
Born: 1783 - , Albemarle, Virginia, USA
Christened:
Died: 1845 - , Perry, Indiana, USA
Buried:
Father: Williamson Fortune (1758-1821)
Mother: Sarah Henderson (WFT Est 1739/1764-WFT Est 1786/1853)
Marriage: 24 Oct 1828 - , Perry, Indiana, USA
Other Spouse: Mildred "Milley" Carter (Abt 1787-Abt 1825) - 13 Oct 1804 - , Franklin, Virginia, USA
Wife Mary Hoover
Born: 1803 - Pennsylvania
Christened:
Died: WFT Est 1842-1898 - , Perry, Indiana, USA
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Children
1 M James Fortune
Born: 1831 - Ohio
Christened:
Died: 1887 - Pine Bluff, Jefferson, Arkansas, USA
Buried:
Spouse: Amanda Hanna (WFT Est 1822/1843-WFT Est 1865/1932)
Marr: 28 Aug 1860 - , Perry, Indiana, USA
Spouse: Nancy Jane Fell (WFT Est 1827/1856-WFT Est 1878/1944)
Marr: 6 Mar 1873 - , Perry, Indiana, USA
2 F Elizabeth Fortune
Born: 1835 - Ohio
Christened:
Died: After 1900 - Parkersburg, Wood, West Virginia, USA
Buried:
Spouse: Jasper Lewis (WFT Est 1808/1838-WFT Est 1872/1924)
Marr: 11 Jan 1849 - , Perry, Indiana, USA
3 M William Harrison Fortune
Born: 7 Aug 1836 - Ohio
Christened:
Died: 4 Aug 1900 - Thornfield, Missouri
Buried:
Spouse: Mary St. Clair (1843-1912)
Marr: 6 Dec 1861 - Boonville, Warrick, Indiana, USA
Spouse: Holliem (Maloney) Piland (1841-1919)
Marr: 6 Nov 1878 - Thornfield, Missouri
4 F Rachel J. Fortune
Born: 1839
Christened:
Died: WFT Est 1840-1933
Buried:
Husband Benjamin Fortune
Born: 22 Sep 1770 - Amherst/Nelson County, Virginia
Christened:
Died: WFT Est 1819-1862
Buried:
Father: Benjamin Fortune (1742-1784)
Mother: Sarah Eubank (WFT Est 1726/1751-WFT Est 1773/1839)
Marriage: 22 Aug 1815 - , Nelson, Virginia, USA
Wife Mildred Lochard
Born: WFT Est 1767-1798
Christened:
Died: WFT Est 1820-1885
Buried:
Children