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Family Group Sheet

HUSBAND Thomas GILBERT, Sr. SEE NOTES BELOW
 Birth

c. 1589

Yardley, Worcestershire, England
Birth

April 25, 1589

Beverley, , Yorkshire, England
Birth

April 25, 1592

Yardley, Worcester, , England
Baptism

April 25, 1592

Yardley, Worcestershire, England
Emigration

1640

Yardley, Worcester, , England
ResidenceFebruary 24, 1639/40Braintree, Massachusetts;
granted 28 acres at Mt. Wollaston in Braintree, now a part of Quincy
Residence

 

Windsor, , Connecticut
Residence

 

Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut
Death

before September 5, 1659

Nayayg, Wetherfield, Connecticut
Death

September 5, 1659

Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut
Will

September 5, 1659

Nayayg, Wetherfield, Connecticut
Probate

October 6, 1659

Hartford, Connecticut
Updated

September 25, 2006

 
Marriage

August 29, 1610

Elizabeth BENNETT; Yardley, Worcester, , England
Marriage

1618

Lydia GILBERT; Meriden, , Warwickshire, England
FatherRichard GILBERT
MotherMarjory MORKEN (MORGAN)
 
WIFE Elizabeth BENNETT
  Birth

abt 1590

Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England
Death

abt 1659

Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut
Updated

September 2, 2006

 
CHILDREN

Child 9 GILBERT
 Updated

August 6, 2006

 

Child 10 GILBERT
 Updated

August 6, 2006

 

Child 11 GILBERT
 Updated

August 6, 2006

 

Child 12 GILBERT
 Updated

August 6, 2006

 

M

Thomas GILBERT, Jr.
 Birth

1611-12

Yardley, Worcestershire, England
Birth

February 16, 1612

Berry, Pomeroy, Devon, England
Birth

1620

Berry, Pomeroy, Devon, England
Baptism

February 16, 1611-12

Yardley, Worcestershire, England
Death

June 5, 1662

Springfield, , Massachusetts
Updated

September 25, 2006

 

M

Jonathan GILBERT Sr.
 Baptism

June 8, 1617

Yardley, Worcester, , England
Birth

1617

Yardley, Worcester, , England
Birth

1618

Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut
Baptism

June 8, 1617

Yardley, Worcestershire, England
Occupation  Innkeeper and Marshal of the Colony (not certain which colony 9/25/06
Death

December 10, 1682

Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut
Death

December 19, 1682

Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut
Updated

September 25, 2006

 
Marriage

January 29, 1646

Mary WHITE; Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut
Marriage

1650

Mary WELLES; Deerfield, , Connecticut

M

Ezekiel GILBERT
 Birth

abt 1622

Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
Birth

c 1621

 
Death

after 1663

 
Updated

September 2, 2006

 

Infant GILBERT
 Birth

c 1624

 
  Death

c 1624

 
 Updated

September 25, 2006

 

F

Sarah GILBERT
 Birth

1624

Compton, , Devon, England
Birth

1615

 
Death

before 1688

 
Updated

September 25, 2006

 

M

John GILBERT
 Birth

abt 1625

Stonington, New London, Connecticut
Birth

c 1619

 
Death

1690

 
Updated

September 25, 2006

 

M

Josiah GILBERT
 Birth

abt 1628

Stonington, New London, Connecticut
Birth

c 1625

 
Death

c 1688

 
Updated

September 25, 2006

 

M

Obadiah GILBERT
  Birth

abt 1630

Compton, , Devon, England
Birth

c 1629

 
Death

1674

 
Updated

September 25, 2006

 
 
WIFE Lydia GILBERT - PROBABLY THOMAS JR.'s WIFE
 Birth

abt 1586

Meriden, , Warwickshire, England
Death

January 1655

Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut
Updated

September 2, 2006

 
CHILDREN

M

Jonathan GILBERT
 Birth

1618

Hartford, Hartford County, Connecticut
 Updated

September 2, 2006

 

M

Thomas GILBERT
 Birth

1620

Berry, Pomeroy, Devon, England
 Updated

September 2, 2006

 

M

Ezekiel GILBERT
 Birth

abt 1622

Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts
Updated

September 2, 2006

 

F

Sarah GILBERT
 Birth

1624

Compton, , Devon, England
Updated

September 2, 2006

 

M

Obadiah GILBERT
 Birth

abt 1630

Compton, , Devon, England
Updated

September 2, 2006

 

OneWorldTree on Ancestry.com has two listings for "Thomas Gilbert."  Each list two wives, as shown above.

"1" - parents:  Thomas Gilbert and Alice Hopkins; grandparents:  Richard Gilbert/Elizabeth Newton and Thomas and Katherine Hopkins. 

"1" - children:  of Elizabeth Bennett:  Thomas (1620) and Sarah (1624)  - and
           of Lydia: Jonathan (1618), Thomas (1620), Ezekiel (1622), Sarah (1624), and Obadiah (1630)

"2" - parents: Richard Gilbert and Margery Morken; grandparents:  Giles Gilbert and Joan Pearce; no Morkens

"2" - children:  of Elizabeth Bennett:  Thomas (1612), Jonathan (1618), Ezekiel (1622), Sarah (1624), John (1626), Josiah (1628), Obadiah (1630) - and
          of Lydia: Thomas (1612) and Jonathan (1618)

Thomas was 18 at the date of the Elizabeth Bennett marriage and 26 at the Lydia Gilbert marriage.

It seems reasonable that Thomas (1612), Jonathan (1618), Thomas (1620), Ezekiel (1622), Sarah (1624), Obadiah (1630) are the same person.  That leaves John (1626) and Josiah (1628) as the only 'individual' children.  These births are spaced in such a way that they could be the same family - but not with two mothers at the same time!!! 

In addition - the marriages of 1610 (Elizabeth) and 1618 (Lydia) are the same on both postings.  Therefore, Elizabeth COULD be Thomas's mother and Lydia, mother of the rest.

EXCEPT - both postings show Elizabeth's death in 1659 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut. (and Lydia's in 1654 or 1655 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut.

Research:  Did Thomas and Elizabeth divorce?  Is Elizabeth's date of death incorrect?  Are these two different couples with remarkable similar birthing and naming trends?

See Richard and Margery Morken/Morgan Gilbert

From Pane-Joyce Genealogy:  "Check out Douglas Richardson's article "The English Origin of Thomas Gilbert . . . "  In it, apparently, is argued that Thomas was not married to Lydia Gilbert. . . Instead she was married to his son Thomas Gilbert, Jr."  Lydia will be moved to Thomas Jr.'s page.